Call me an elitist, but I’m a S&W and Springfield fan when it comes to my polymer pistols. Gaston’s guns are OK, but they’ve never fit me. So when it comes to a carry gun, mine either says M&P or XD(m). I basically wouldn’t be caught dead with a Glock. However, the folks at Taurus have me begrudgingly admitting that I might have been a narrow in my assessment of carry guns. And here’s why . . .
Fit and Finish
In my mind, Taurus guns have always been associated with “The Judge” and generally larger, cheaper handguns. So imagine my surprise when I unboxed the Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 to find a well-crafted, compact polymer handgun. I racked the slide a few times and rattled it in the hopes of finding some sloppiness. No dice. I slid an empty magazine home, heard it click, and then hit the release. I watched the magazine drop free. Damned if everything didn’t seem to work. And then I saw that MSRP was $349. Consider my snobbiness subdued.
Reliability
I immediately headed to the range and ran a few hundred rounds of Blazer 115 gr., cheap steel-case Tula, and 147 gr. HydraShocks. I’m pleased to report that the G2 ate everything without so much as a single hiccup. However, due to the current climate surrounding ammo availability, I was unable to put more than 200 rounds downrange and I so am unable to make a complete judgement on reliability. However, I ran the gun with only the lubrication from the factory (not much) and didn’t clean it at all.
Accuracy
I found the G2 to be quite accurate given its diminutive size. I was able to produce minute of bad guy groups at combat distances. Even though the rear sight is adjustable, there was no need to mess with it as the gun hit what I was aiming at out to about 15 yards. The targets above were slow fired at 7 yards. The G2 uses fairly standard 3 dot sights and I found them easy to get lined up and on target. Beware aggressive cleaners as these are just painted. Caustic substances could likely eat those dots away.
To Carry or Not?
As a gun, it does the basics of what a gun should do. It fires with each squeeze of the trigger, and it does so fairly accurately. A carry gun however, should be able to do all that as well as be comfortable to tote and dead stupid easy to use. The thin profile of the G2 makes concealed carry extremely comfortable. I carried the G2 in my CompTac MTAC IWB holster and hardly noticed it at all. The gun is light and doesn’t have any major protrusions to jam into your side. When you do clear leather, you’ll find the G2 easy to get a grip on as it’s covered in nearly abrasive stippling all over. There’s simply no way to grip the G2 and not get a good purchase.
The G2, though, sports a manual safety which I believe fails the “dead stupid easy” test. The safety is very small and hard to flick off in a hurry. For that reason, I would be hesitant to have it has my personal carry weapon. During my time carrying the gun for this review, I carried it with the safety off. There’s also a loaded chamber indicator, which I also think you don’t need unless you have bad gun safety habits.
Trigger (double-action/single-action, 6lb trigger pull)
The go pedal has a LOOOOONNNGG travel that measures 2 lbs. to get you to the very crisp 6 lb. break with just a tiny bit of reset that kind of pops back on you. In the video above you can see the trigger sort of spit past the reset. The G2 also features a second strike capability which some folks seem to count as a feature. Personally, if a round doesn’t fire, I want it out of the gun and now. However, with ammo in short supply, maybe it’s worth giving the primer a second tap just to make sure. Second strike or not, the trigger break is very crisp and contributed to the gun’s good accuracy.
Cleanliness
The Millennium G2 breaks down just like one of Gaston’s guns. Clear the gun, pull the tabs down, squeeze the trigger and pull the slide forward. The G2 breaks down to frame, barrel, recoil spring, and slide. All the surfaces are coated and carbon wipes off easily with a bit of your cleaner of choice. Reassembly requires no fancy acrobatics and be accomplished in about 30 seconds.
Final Conclusions
The G2 is a surprisingly good gun. While small, it still packs 12 + 1 on board in an easy to shoot, accurate package. It carries nicely and is covered in grippy stippling so you can always get a good purchase. The only real “ding” I have is on the gun’s manual safety. And the only manual safety I’ve really ever liked in a carry gun is the big paddle on the 1911. If you give the G2 a try and like it, you might just consider carrying it with the safety off like a true mall ninja.
Specifications: Taurus Millennium G2
- Model: 111G2
- Finish: Blue
- Caliber: 9 mm (.40 coming soon!)
- Capacity: 12+1
- Weight: 22 oz
- Barrel Length: 3.2 inches
- Length: 6.24 inches
- Price: $349 (usually about $100 less via Cabela’s and Brownells)
Fit and Finish * * * * *
The level of quality evident in the G2 is in line with $600 – $900 polymer frame pistols. No rattles, squeaks, or clumsy machining.
Reliability * * * * *
Zero FTF/FTEs during testing, but due to current ammo shortages, this wasn’t really a complete test.
Accuracy * * * *
For a carry gun, it was accurate enough. This is definitely not a 50 yard pistol, but can definitely be considered combat accurate.
Carry * * * *
From a form perspective, this is a very concealable gun capable of holding a decent amount of 9 mm. However, it has a manual safety that’s hard to (de)actuate in a hurry.
Trigger * * * * *
Crisp and breaks like glass at 6 lbs. exactly. The reset point is a short throw away, and has an audible click. The second strike capability is nice, but in my opinion doesn’t add a lot of value.
Cleaning * * * * *
Super easy.
Overall * * * *
As a standalone product, this is an awesome gun. I was thoroughly impressed and I would have expected something like this at a price point closer to $500-$600. For a $349 price tag, this may be the best “bang for the buck” pistol I have had the opportunity to test.
I have a Millenium Pro PT111 which is the predecesor to this and it has been terrific. The new version hase some nice additions like the acc. rail and take down pin. Great piece at a great price.
I also have a Milleum Pro PT 111, I use it as my primary carry gun, and I have no complaints. Good to know the G2 is also up to snuff. I’ve been wanting a .45 ACP, and I had been focused on either the XDm or the new SR45…I might have to look into the G2 .45 also.
I have a pit145 pro and it is awesome . I love it
I have the XDm in .45. excelent gun. extended 13 rnd mag fits hand nicely. Looking to buy one in 9mm next,
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Love my Taurii. Love the direction the company is going. More, please.
The comment by the Lauderdale Vet is now somewhat dated. He liked the direction the company was taking.
Lately, Taurus changes CEO’s like most change socks! At this date the direction is still great. They have become quite the innovator, whereas, they tended to be a follower for years. Goes to show you that nothing pushes innovation quite like market success.
Have a PT145 thats great, acquired a PT845 that was total garbage (FTF and a poorly finished slide.) Sent it back to Taurus and they screwed me around for 2 months before finally doing the right thing and sending a replacement. The replacement was OK but still an occasional FTF so I sold it at a loss and chalked up a lesson, any hint of Taurus trouble dump it because their service facility in Miami sucks.
My Taurus pt140 has earned my trust. I have put thousands of rounds through it (every kind of ammo I could find) and it has gone bang every.single.time. Shoots straight and shoots every time. All I want in a gun.
That being said, my wife cannot use it, (She carries glock 22), because the slide lock is forward of the safety. Between the stiffness of the spring and her small hand she cannot lock the slide open with her thumb. Don’t know if that would be an issue for the smallhanded on this gun, but maybe.
Double strike is a boon for practicing with crap ammo. I shot 50 rounds of Tula 9mm this weekend, two FTF that shot with the second pull of the trigger. My wife’s LC9 has one FTF with her 50, no double strike with that one.
Your use of FTF is interesting, in my nomenclature it always meant “Failure To Feed” however you seem to use it as “Failure to Fire.”
I would call your situation a “misfire.” I just wonder if FTF is interchangeable between the two malfunctions.
Yes, I meant “Failure to Fire”. No idea if FTF is interchangable, or which is correct.
FTF can mean both, like FTE can mean either failure to eject or failure to extract. That’s why I prefer to avoid the initialisms entirely and just say what the actual problem is.
I have a Millennium Pro PT-140. Not a problem for me. As for the manual safety, each to their own. Some people want them, some don’t. So long as you practice in the method you decide to carry. I’ve carried with safety on, and with safety off. I also have a PT-111. Like both pistols, controls are the same, so no issue of rechecking where controls are when carrying either pistol.
mine had a 3 stove pipes in the first 150 rounds. took apart the magazines and oiled and lubricated them (one was absolutely dry). Since then, I’ve had 100% reliability as well…
Have an at least ten year old Millenium PT145, after a lot of use, the trigger smoothed up nice. Ten plus 1 .45 acp, 22.5 oz empty, what’s not to like. It cost $400 back then, so this sounds pretty good, for the money.
I’m actually the only one of my friends & family that has had all my Taurus handguns run perfectly. It’s nice to see they are moving in a positive direction because I really liked all the ones I’ve owned.
not a poly gun but my circa-2009 PT1911 has been trouble free. fired a triple once when another shooter limp wristed it, but that’s not the guns fault. i really like the idea of their smaller poly guns, especially if they’re just as good.
Almost dry when you broke it down? Well, that’s a change! They used to come so gunked up you had to clean them before the first shot. I bought my daughter a PT111 that came that way. They are also well known for having mags that are very difficult to fully load.
I was going to buy a PT745, but they went out of production. And that is the ONLY Taurus .45 on the California roster. Not one of their new pistols is on the approved list, and all that’s left are a compact .40, a .38, and two full size 9mms. I’ll be interested if Taurus decides to renew its interest in our market.
I was wondering if this was available in CA. The lack of a big ugly loaded-chamber indicator should probably have been a giveaway. (As an aside, I see that Taurus is continuing their storied tradition of selling obvious derivatives of successful handguns at lower prices. One might think this was an M&P or xD at first glance.)
Seems like it would be a bit silly to import one under the CA single-shot exemption given the value of the gun, unless of course one lives in a county where CCW permits are actually issued.
Location, location, location. Over 5000 issued in my county of residence, where “self-defense” is “good cause.”
i wanna know if pak blanks will fit my gun I had a Taurus millennium G2
Do you mean how pretty much all polymer guns are derivatives of glock? I love how people accuse taurus of being a copy cat when all other gun manufacturers do the same
Don’t forget that Glock copied the design from H&K who originated the polymer, striker-fired pistol.
Kind of like Smith & Wesson ripping off Taurus’ Judge with the “Governor”, right?
Kind of like Taurus ripping off the MIL, Inc Thunder 5 with the “Judge” right?
Yeah, at first glance it looks a lot like an M&P (not so much like a Springfield).
The other day my wife told me I need to get a gun for deep concealment so I can break the law and carry where I work — all the recent national & regional mayhem has her worried. I don’t think I’ll take her up on that breaking the law part, but I’ll take it as a good excuse for a new pistol. 🙂
I’ve been hankering for a Springfield XD-s, but they don’t come in 9mm and their $600 price tag is a bit much for my limited budget. I gotta go check one of these Millennium G2’s out — heck, if they handle and shoot that well for only $350, it’d be hard not to buy one.
They do make the XDs in 9mm now but it is as pricey as the XDs 45. I looked at both the XDs 9mm and the Taurus Millennium PT111 G2 and for the money, feel and size of it, I decided on the Taurus. I do own the XDs 45 as my main carry gun. The thing that clenched it for me though was the price and availability of ammo for the 9mm versus the 45ACP.
i have the XDS 45, but like a 9mm for for shooting, so if it fits my hand ,its on sale for 300,, dang.
I just got one last week and love it. I have shot around 50 rounds through it and to me it is very accurate for its size, and the purchase of the gun is awesome, when you grab it it feels perfect in your hand. Now I have to find a good holster for itm
Try the holster store on line they mak custom holsters for everything My Pt111 G2 fits perfectly
I just got one last week and love it. I have shot around 50 rounds through it and to me it is very accurate for its size, and the purchase of the gun is awesome, when you grab it it feels perfect in your hand. Now I have to find a good holster for it.
I just bought a new G2 yesterday , had one before and loved it…you are right about the excessive oil….mine was so slippery out of the box that I had to tear it down and wiped enough gunk off it to lube my car…great gun though….
Interesting. Mine had zero oil on it.
Mow, try cleaning Cosmoline off of a Makarov or Mosin if you want to appreciate a brand, new gun.
An ammo shortage is the perfect time to review a Taurus. LOL.
The worst problems with Taurus pistols in the past has been customer service. I wonder what Taurus has done to improve its service levels.
Any company can turn out a lemon from time to time. What the company does afterwards is what separates the best from the rest.
I can tell you that from what I saw when I was there, they’ve put a huge amount of effort (and dollars) into upgrading their customer service operation.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/10/daniel-zimmerman/taurus-puts-its-money-where-its-mouth-is/
duly noted
Love the pistol loved the price but every time i turn around i have to send it in for repair always something wrong with it could not depend on it so i bought a glock no problems with it in over 2 years not even a hicup i guess you get what you pay for.Ps the three times my pt 111 g2 in for repair it has taken over 3 and half months to repair,i will never purchase another pistol from them.
I have owned many Taurus pistols over the years (still own almost all of them) and I have been a “fan boy” from day 1. My father presented me a pair of PT92’s for my 40th birthday and they have never had any problems. I have owned a PT845 (sold) and currently carry a 24/7 G2 compact. I also have the 24/7 G2 full size and can’t praise them enough. In these times of short ammo, the Tula steel case runs through more often than anything else and I find the strike-two capability of the 24/7’s works every time.
This looks like it might be good to carry in the summer. I tried all three of my fullsize guns in .45, .40 and 9 mm today. They all print way too much with just my t-shirt. They are all fine with a jacket in fall winter and early spring. As I am heading south I will have to find a smaller carry gun.
Tyler, what’s the height and width on this pistol? (By width, I mean slide width — how much gun is shoved in your waistband — not grip width)
Thanks for the review. I’m shopping for a CCW gun and this might be in the lead right now (open to suggestions). I live in an extremely low crime area and it will probably spend most of the time in my truck’s console, with the safety on. I never understood the aversion to safeties, if you want it use it, if you don’t don’t. I can see why some don’t want it for carry, but then again I’ve read several anecdotal stories of LEOs getting the firearms wrestled away from them and survived because the perp couldn’t get the safety off. To each his own. Personally I’m more worried about a ND than a quick draw contest. Probably even leave it condition 3 when it’s sitting in my truck.
The price is right (I’m cheap) and it’s about the right size. I’d like something that functions as much as possible like my Beretta 92 just to avoid confusion if I ever have to use it, but I don’t seem to be having any luck finding a small, light 9mm with a flip up to fire slide mounted safety. I’m a little concerned with Taurus’ reputation for customer service, but I’m not sure better service is worth an extra $200 or $300. Unless I get a lemon, of course.
Love my Millenium PT140 it eats everything i feed it, very comfortable, reliable (thousand or so rounds and only two misfires that fired on “strike two”) and accurate. it also has a fantastic SA/DA trigger.
Jeff Quinn was very impressed with it as well; of course, there don’t seem to be any guns that he doesn’t like, so . . .
Nice demonstration of the trigger pull!
I think his rule is he doesn’t waste his time reviewing crap, so yeah, if he writes it up he must have liked it.
Love the trigger pull video. More gun reviews on TTAG should have it!
+1
I have a pt845 and love it. I use it as my home defense gun. It has proved uber reliable. More people need to take Taurus seriously.
Don’t all Taurii (I will steal and use it from now on!) have a key lock built into them? I am fairly certain I don’t want ANY gun with this “feature”.
It’s not like you need to use it or anything, and it won’t self-engage. Think of it as a built-in child safety device, no more. I think my Sig Mosquito has one too, but it’s been so long since I’ve looked for it I hardly remember.
The key lock is mainly for when you store it away for a long period of time or you are extra paranoid. The other reason I could see using the system lock feature is shipping it to a destination where you would pick it up with the keys in your possession.
I actually had a Taurus 605 revolver self actuate the key lock one time…I don’t know how it happened, but it was a little disconcerting…
I have the new Millennium G2 pt111 and it works great I have put multiple different brands of ammunition in it with not one single misfire. Ive put federal FMJ 115, Fiochi FMJ 115, Remingtion JHP 115, American Ammunition FMJ 115, and what ever type of frangible ammo THE GUN STORE uses in las vegas were I took my cfp test. Ive put more than 100 round each for all those except the Remington I put 24 and the frangible I put 36. I love my gun and it feels great and shoots well. Great for begginers like me.
I’ve had a 1st gen PT 145 for 10 years. It has been to and fro Miami 3 times in its lifetime, all for the same problem- a broken safety lever. Currently shopping for a replacement.
I bought one of these a few months ago, I’m not even a big fan of 9MM’s but I love the feel of it so I had to have it. I’ve had no issues with it.
In your opinion which one is the better buy or any one can answer this
The Taurus s&w
Or g2 111
I have a taurus 709 slim and love it! All the good things that I hear about the G2 makes me want to go out and buy one. Oh what the heck
I wanted to know which was the better buy I’m getting one 2m and didn’t know which one is more reliable or just a better gun out of the 2 the slim or the pt 111
Ive had this gun since Jan. . I seen it at the gun shop and loved it when i held it but I wanted to do some homework on it so I put it down, went to research it and it was to new …Taurus didnt have anything on it but deminsions so I desided to give it a try being the gun was priced at 329 at that time they hadent even priced it went back to store it was gone ….store owner said he had 3 and they flew off the shelf and would be getting 1 or 2 more in in a couple days . so two days later i went in at open and bought 1. 4 days after that i went and bought 2 more to make sure my friends could get one…..this gun is great ive put well over 600 rounds through it of all types of ammo not one mess up and anyone else that shoots it loves it and wants one, however i havent seen them on the shelf anywhere for some time now. Taurus did a awesome job with this gun and I would recommend this for new,women,men ,carry shooters of all types . I’m looking forward to trying the .40 when i see it i want to see how it will compare to my M&P.40c
I bought my G2 4 months ago and have put 700 rounds down range. Gun is well made and i have had no issues with it at all. Fun to shoot and very accurate. Besides my G2 i own a 85 ultra light revolver and a 738 .380 made by Taurus. I had to send the .380 back to Taurus since i started having extraction issues.Customer service paid to have gun returned for repair and was returned to me within 3 weeks.It has worked perfectly since they installed new ejector .
Just bought one of these PT111 G2s today. Trigger is better than my PT709 Slim and I get five more rounds in each magazine. Looking forward to wringing it out on the range.
Tight my behind,Sounds like a childs rattle.430 rounds down range often jammed at an angle upward toward chamber when slide racked,Often ftfeed into chamber requiring a push of the slide to finish the cycle.Back to Taurus,Hope it works out,gun feels great.As of this time it’s a pos.Stoeger Cougar compact 35 dollars more far better quality.Xd compact,sr9c,m&p compact all far more reliable,not that much more costly.Little Taurus felt to good in hand to pass on though really hope they can turn it into a working gun.
Have put 500 rounds through mine with no FTF or FTE. My other carry is an XDm 3.8. They are equally accurate at 7 yards. The only jam came from manually racking “too slow”. My fault, not the guns. Would love it if i could find some hi-vis sights for it. Would recommend as a comfortable, easy to conceal carry.
Can anyone tell me how hard it is to rack the slide for someone with limited strength?
Similar to other 9mm’s like xd-m or SW. Needs to be fast or you may not feed properly. Still looking for night sights.. Any help?
I have a Walther PPX I have no problem with, but I can hardly rack my Ruger SR9c, so I’m looking for something a little less stiff than the Ruger.
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Ok I can answer that question. I am 67 yr old female with a bit of arthritis in my hands. But, I Love the P111 g2. It actually fits my small hand. It’s ok on the slide, but I have to admit when having to take apart to clean I cannot pull back and get the slide locked open because I have trouble holding the slide back long enough to get it locked. Strength being the issue. Powerful spring. I usually ask someone to help when I need to clean. But racking myself to fire is just fine.
TIP:
Just put a empty magazine in it. Than pull the slide. The empty magazine will automatically activate the slide stop and keep the slide in open position. Than remove the magazine and go from there.
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I have a Taurus PT809, straight out of the box to the range, no cleaning, no oiling, shot 500+ thru it so far, and 2 failure to eject.. maybe the cheapo ammo I was using.. ? I love it, a little bulky for my wifes small hands, but she can hit target 40- 50 feet out with only 2 misses… She’s either getting a PT709 slim or a PT111.. My 17 yr old can shoot it reliably also, and he’s just in love with it.. Taurus had improved over the years, and I’d gladly take anyone to the range with mine to prove it..
George, my wife can the slide ok with my 809, a lil difficult, but she’s just starting out and getting used to it… Main thing is repetition and training.. she’s come a long way since we’ve first started shooting together.. the PT111 is a little smaller, 12+1 compared to 17+1, but she’s getting there..
I bought a PT145 first generation to replacea 380 PPK which jammed frequently, but wish I still had. The Taurus shoots very well for a 3.25 inch barrel. After 6 or 8 years, I was ready to trade it away because of jams which increased in frequency to 1 in 2; soon thereafter, I noticed the grip had a jelly bean on it and it turned out to be part of the grip! I sent it to Taurus to repair the grip and mentioned the jamming as an afterthought, It came back with grip replaced, and the barrel was new, too. It was a victim of faulty tooling and was a magnet for dirt which I could not remove or clean away. It is now a really fine gun with few jams; accuracy is be very comforting especially at 50 or 60 feet. It’s not a great fine gun, like Wilsons, but it will do in a pinch-11 rounds of 230 grain HP. Maybe I got lucky, but what’s wrong with that?
I just purchased the Taurus PT111 G2 spent the afternoon at the range and shot about 50 rounds with no problem. I also have the PT 740 have shot 500+ rounds and no problems. The PT111 is slightly easier to rack just barely. My wife is a small woman with small hands and she can rack and clean either one in fact she carries a PT 740. It is easy to remove the slide if you hold the gun upside down with the back side of the gun resting between the thumb and first finger just behind the trigger between the slide and handle, I use my right hand . Slide pull the slide back with your fingers on the right hand and operate the release catch with your other hand. Make sure you pull the trigger after you release the catch and hold the trigger down until you remove the slide.
I bought a new G2 at a gun show.. I am not very familar with hand guns, but I thought I would be able to pull back the slide and release without any problem , but the only way I can pull the slide back is with a magazine clip inserted. Is that the design ? I actually fiddled with the slide Hex lock and no difference.
Confused
Thanks,
Mike
Mark , make sure the safety is not on when you rack it…I had the same problem…clicked the safety off and it racked back easily…
I bought a new G2 yesterday having owned its predessor before I tried the new one out….it is just as good a gun as my old one , and it is very well constructed…in years past Taurus built some cheap , junky weapons but they now are producing some really good guns…I use my G2 9mm as my carry weapon and I have absolutely no problem flicking the safety off with my thumb…I learned with use it will loosen up over time making it much easier…
I have a millennium 9 mm my uncle gave me and after you fire the first shot the gun jams the bullet catches on the silver part inside the chamber and only fire that one shell and then jams how can I fix this
You might be able to file and polish the ramp a bit. I would send it in to Taurus.
I bought a first generation PT145 which worked great for a long time, then began jamming more and more so that it was at least half the time. I sent it back to factory and received it in 10 days with a new barrel and explanation that it had accumulated a lot of dirt, powder, etc., in fine parts of the barrel. I think there was a rough manufacturing process which made it impossible to clean and/or remove those microscopic particles. Since then it almost never, rarely, jams. It is 11 rounds of 45. It weighs about 23 oz. empty and is 1.25 inches wide at the slide, so it is a problematic carry for all day, but for an occasional or temporary, it does just fine. Most people clean only or lube/oil only when both should be done. Taurus gets a bad rap, I think; their lineup is reasonably priced; if you want the ultra, like Wilson, multiply the price by 10 and there you are. I’d rather have 10 Tauruses (Tauri?) myself.
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I use my G-2 as my carry weapon. Very happy with the size, weight and reliability of this side arm. So far, several hundred rounds and no problems. I also have a model 99AF which was purchased in 1985. After several thousand rounds without a jam or any other problems I guess it has proved itself. I bought my G-2 at Academy Sports for $329.
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Still looking for hi-vis sights for my G2… any help?
I’ve been considering this as well and found a couple of options on the Taurus forums.
Option 1: Glock Hi-Vis sight with some slight modification:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/millennium-pro-pistols/107482-taurus-pt111-g2-sight-upgrade-3.html
Option 2: Tru Glo Shotgun sight with no modification:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/millennium-pro-pistols/107482-taurus-pt111-g2-sight-upgrade.html
I’m thinking about option 2, as it seems like a quick, easy, inexpensive and effective solution for upgrading the front sight. Absolutely love my G2…snagged it on sale at Buds for $297 (sorry, but I enjoy bragging about that). The gun is worth a whole lot more IMHO. Best of luck with your upgrade!
I like my Taurus PT111G2 9mm….Its a good lightweight carry and fits my hand (with clip installed) better than most other compacts I tried..plus it shoots well with the limited amount of ammo I fired through it…I used both clips to insure a good feed and no problems whatsoever.
My primary drawback on this weapon is loading the clip….If you plan on installing 10 or more rounds, you need a super grip with your weak hand and a strong thumb on the other!
Other than the clip loading, I give it a 9+.
They’re called Magazines (or Mags for short). Anyway, the instruction book admits to the stiff springs in the Mags and also tells you the way to solve. Just hit the but of the Mag in the palm of your hand after about 6 rounds. You’ll hear the spring compress and the remainder slide in like butter. Sometimes I give it an extra hit or 2 after 10 rounds, then 11 & 12 go in a whole lot easier. Before I knew this procedure, I was using my Glock Speed loader on the PT 111.
In regards to the magazine for the PT111 being hard to load.I just purchased a new G2c yesterday and yes it was quite difficult to load. I found that placing the bottom of the mag. on a hard flat surface such as a table giving me the full benefit of both hands made it quite a bit easier. Hope this is helpful.
Larry, if you read the instruction manual, it tells you to “Rap the butt of the Mag” in the palm of your hand after loading 6-7 rounds. You’ll hear the spring relax, and the remaining full 12 rounds slide in like butter.
This also works well with my Glock mags.
Use a magpul loader works like a charm even on 32 round magazines!
Hi Arnie, I actually have a Maglula loader, as well as 5 mags for my PT-111 plus 5 mags for my Glock 17. I pre-load all mags (Glock: 17 X 5 = 85 plus the Taurus 12 X 5 = 60) a total of 145 rounds Pre Loaded even before getting to the range.
Additionally, I always share a shooting lane with a partner, so, the Non Shooting partner can keep replenishing the spent mags, while the active shooter continues to fire away.
This works especially well when breaking in “New Guns”. We usually take 2-3 New Guns and keep the firing up, and continuous, while switching between the guns.
Our purpose is simply to fire as many rounds (of various manufacturers) as possible thru multiple guns in the shortest period of time (since you pay by the minute for range time).
An active shooter generally fatigues after about 10 minutes, or about 100-200 rounds fired. For this reason, we pace ourselves at 10 minute intervals.
This gives each shooter 3 chances, at 10 minutes shooting about 100-200 rounds.
Over the entire hour, the 2 of us can easily put 1000 rounds down range.
Lots of fun, and by switching shooters with reloaders, no one comes out with their heads spinning around.
I bought this Taurus Millennium G2 for $299 and love it. I was going to buy the M&P Shield but the G2 was more comfortable in my hand plus it has a 12+1 capacity. Also it was $130 cheaper. I like the multiple strike capability as well, why not have that option? You don’t have to use it but it’s better to have it than not. The gun has been flawless with both FMJ’s and HP’s so it is now my main carry gun. I had been carrying a Taurus PT-145 and sometimes still do but the G2 is a smidge smaller and a nice change. I think it’s an excellent pistol and the price can’t be beat for what you get.
I own the Taurus Mil. G2 9mm and also my main carry gun is a Taurus 24/7 .40 cal. Both of these weapons were superb straight from the box. Taurus is a top quality forearm.
I bought a pt111 pro used and I’ve fired a few hundred rounds thru it. With the exception of two FTF (probably due to cheap ammo ) the gun has been a gem. Good quality and exceptional value.
I bought a pt 111 in 2002….never had any firing issues and am thinking about using it for ccw…it does shoot low and takes some practice on how to use the sights accurately…buddies of mine shot it without practice and were able to hit targets, with tight groups hear the center…
My PT111 G2 is on the way from GrabAGun. Can’t wait. I understand that taurus 9mm mil pro mags will fit too. My Academy has them in stock so will get at least a third mag. Anyone know if other higher capacity Taurus 9mm magazines will fit?
Looks like 12+1 in a small 9mm at this price point is fantastic!
I heard the 24/7 mags fit the pt111s. I’m so excited that i finally placed my order! Cant wait to get to the range.
Just received my 9mm G2 today. I also have a S&W MP9C. I am taking them both to the range tomorrow and while I was prepping them I noticed how similar the magazine were. I have both 12 and 17 rd Mags for the S&W so I slipped the 17 rd mag into the G2 and it fit pretty good, a little wobbly but not much. I’m just getting into shooting so I was wondering if anyone else might have both and actually tried to use the S&W mag in the G2. It looks like it would work.
Just received my 9mm G2 today. I also have a S&W MP9C. I am taking them both to the range tomorrow and while I was prepping them I noticed how similar the magazine were. I have both 12 and 17 rd Mags for the S&W so I slipped the 17 rd mag into the G2 and it fit pretty good, a little wobbly but not much. I’m just getting into shooting so I was wondering if anyone else might have both and actually tried to use the S&W mag in the G2. It looks like it would work but i’m kind of leery about trying it out.
Someone posted that Taurus 24/7 mags fit the PT Millennium guns. I haven’t checked to see if they come in higher capacity (like 17 round) as opposed to the normal 12 round mags. HOWEVER, I would be skeptical about using anything but true factory mags for any type of defensive carry option at all. Fine, if you want to simulate Rambo at the range, but not EDC. NOT even as an extra EDC mag.
I DID contact Taurus, and they told me the highest capacity mags for PT Millenniums are the standard factory 12 round ones.
Taurus sells their 12 round mags for $36. But I found them at Palmetto State Armory for $28. Shipping was an extra $8.50, but NO sales tax unless you have it shipped to Georgia. It was $8.50 to ship just ONE. So, I added 2 more, and the shipping was the same $8.50 for all 3. Then I decided to order 2 factory mags for my Glock 17. Guess what? Shipping for all 5 mags was still only $8.50. I ordered it Sunday, and their UPS tracking info says they’ll be delivered tomorrow (Wednesday). I think that 3 day delivery is pretty good! Now, I’ll have a total of 5 – 12 rnd mags for the PT111, and a total of 5 – 17 rnd mags for my Glock 17. I just think it’s pretty nice being able to pre-load 60 rnds of ammo for the PT111 plus an additional 85 – rnds for the Glock, (total of 145 rnds) before even getting onto a lane at the range. I’m also getting an Uplula all purpose Speed Loader. More shootin time & less time getting cramped fingers re-loading. I figure I can re-load all 10 mags with the Uplula in less than 5 minutes. Better yet, if 2 people share a lane, one can be re-loading, while the other fires away!
Mags made for Sig 226 are a perfect fit and they are available in capacities of 18 up to 32 rounds!
I got my PT111 G2 9mm about one month ago, and have run about 500 rounds through it so far. My conclusion is that this gun is awesome! It is spot-on accurate, and it eats everything that I feed it. I am not comfortable with IWB carry, but I use a Blackhawk OWB nylon, and it works out just fine. It is a $329 pistol that feels as good as any much more expensive piece.. If you get the chance, try this gun. I can say that you will love it, and you will buy it!
My 9mm pt111 g2 won’t load a bullet in the chamber, I just bought the gun May 14, 2014
I’m having the same problem with the gun. What was the fix? Did you have to send it back?
Are you saying it won’t load a round when you rack the slide? Or after firing, it won’t eject and reload. I find that it needs to be racked quickly to function properly. Too slow, and the bullet will hang up on the ramp. Hope this helps.
I have had issues with some previous Taurus handguns. I did have some that did not give me any kind of problems, a PT709 Slim and a PT145. The first time I saw the PT111 Millennium Pro Gen 2 in a gun shop I visit regularly, I wanted to handle it. This shop does freak out if you pull the trigger on a center fire pistol. I loved the way if fit my hands, which are not large, and I really liked its trigger pull.
When I got the cash, I bought one and acquired two additional mags. I tried several brands of ammo, Fiocchi, Remington, Winchester, Blazer and RWS, in 115gr and 124gr FMJ. I also shot several rounds of different JHP. It ate whatever I fed it without any problems at all. I cleaned it first, then lubed it with Mil-Comm TW25B, like I always use on all of my firearms.
I used one of those orange stick on, 3″ bullseyes on my target, that was between 15′ and 18′. I was able to consistently put all 13 rounds into the 3″ circle. I kept one target I fired 13 rounds into that has a 2 1/8″ group. I am so satisfied with my Gen 2 that I carry it all day long.
I recently purchased a brand spanking new Taurus PT111 Millenium G2. I love this gun!!! Cost was $270. I love the fact it came with two clips also in the plastic case also. Tool it to the range straight out of the box and shot a nearly perfect score, missed by one point. Fired from the 3, 10, 15, 20 and 25 yards. a very accurate pistol. I would recommend it for anyone but especially for the discerning females as it’s a much better fit for a slightly smaller hand. I usually use a S&W 9mm that’s larger in size and as much as I love S&W… I love this Taurus. Keep looking you can find it for less!!!
Palmetto State Armory has the PT 111 Millennium G-2 on sale about twice a month for $199.99, and NO Sales Tax unless you live in Georgia. Shipping is only $17. When these go on sale, they’re usually completely “Out of Stock” by the next day.
I will say: I’m not a robot and I do not work for any gun MFG.
I picked this PT111 G2 up on a whim for $350. I’ve always wanted to try a Taurus and I had the money just looking to be spent on a new gun. My EDC is a .40 Cal Springfield 3.8 Springfield XDm and I’ve been looking for a single stack that is easier to carry for summer, so I picked this Taurus up. Let me say I love my XDm and the caliber. It’s a nice weapon and in fact everyone I let shoot it wants to get the same one themselves.
That being said, I was a little nervous buying such a cheap handgun, however Taurus has been around long enough that I felt comfortable with the buy. In the price range were Kel-Tek guns at this particular store and Kel-Tek is on my “no buy” list (I should say I’ve never owned or shot Kel-Tek, just initial impressions on them keeps me from owning.)
Anyways I just took it out with 50 Rounds of Winchester 9mm Luger FMJ and 50 rds of Winchester Luger hollow points. A friend who was shooting my Taurus had one jam (he may have limp wristed a little, not sure, but I never had a jam) and I personally had 3 Failure To Fire over this 100 total rounds. It was actually 2 bullets, first time it fired on the second trigger pull (thank You double action!) and on the other bullet it took Two additional trigger pulls after the first to get the bullet to fire off.
I do not know if it has a weak spring in this gun, but I’m going to chalk this one up to cheap components. The saving grace of this gun is the ability to pull the trigger again and strike on the same bullet rather than having to rack the slide and eject the round for a new one. I find this feature to make this gun a good self defense weapon in spite of having three trigger pulls without a solid hit on the primer during practice shooting. If my math is correct, this would equal a 1.5% failure rate by the handgun itself on the first trigger pull. However because it did shoot on the second or third pull without having to rack the slide, I think this handgun makes up for it’s failures. (I need to say that even though people keep saying this gun has “features equal to a $600-700 gun,” they are clearly a lot cheaper and not made for longevity and are not necessarily quality. In fact the front sight on this Taurus PT111 G2 is slightly off center and points to the left. This is a permanent sight, you cannot change it out. I’m not sure this affected my shooting though and this 9mm shoots straighter than my .40 Cal Springfield by a small margin.
That being said, this is my first gun review and my first 9mm. It will be used for CC in summer and at this point, I trust that if it doesn’t shoot on the first pull, it will on the second or third. That won’t be good enough for a lot of people.
I have 2 of these and the sights are fine.
In a self defense situation I doubt you will even be using the sights.
if you have a crooked sight contact taurus and use your lifetime warranty and get a new slide with sight.
I know I’m late to the party, but for future readers of these comments, I thought I’d point out that the front sight is in fact replaceable. It’s held on by a screw from inside the slide.
I will say: I’m not a robot and I do not work for any gun MFG.
I picked this PT111 G2 up on a whim for $350. I’ve always wanted to try a Taurus and I had the money just looking to be spent on a new gun. My EDC is a .40 Cal Springfield 3.8 Springfield XDm and I’ve been looking for a single stack that is easier to carry for summer, so I picked this Taurus up. Let me say I love my XDm and the caliber. It’s a nice weapon and in fact everyone I let shoot it wants to get the same one themselves.
That being said, I was a little nervous buying such a cheap handgun, however Taurus has been around long enough that I felt comfortable with the buy. In the price range were Kel-Tek guns at this particular store and Kel-Tek is on my “no buy” list (I should say I’ve never owned or shot Kel-Tek, just initial impressions on them keeps me from owning.)
Anyways I just took it out with 50 Rounds of Winchester 9mm Luger FMJ and 50 rds of Winchester Luger hollow points. A friend who was shooting my Taurus had one jam (he may have limp wristed a little, not sure, but I never had a jam) and I personally had 3 Failure To Fire over this 100 total rounds. It was actually 2 bullets, first time it fired on the second trigger pull (thank You double action!) and on the other bullet it took Two additional trigger pulls after the first to get the bullet to fire off.
I do not know if it has a weak spring in this gun, but I’m going to chalk this one up to cheap components. The saving grace of this gun is the ability to pull the trigger again and strike on the same bullet rather than having to rack the slide and eject the round for a new one. I find this feature to make this gun a good self defense weapon in spite of having three trigger pulls without a solid hit on the primer during practice shooting. If my math is correct, this would equal a 3% failure rate by the handgun itself on the first trigger pull. However because it did shoot on the second or third pull without having to rack the slide, I think this handgun makes up for it’s failures. (I need to say that even though people keep saying this gun has “features equal to a $600-700 gun,” they are clearly a lot cheaper and not made for longevity and are not necessarily quality. In fact the front sight on this Taurus PT111 G2 is slightly off center and points to the left. This is a permanent sight, you cannot change it out. I’m not sure this affected my shooting though and this 9mm shoots straighter than my .40 Cal Springfield by a small margin.)
That being said, this is my first gun review and my first 9mm. It will be used for CC in summer and at this point, I trust that if it doesn’t shoot on the first pull, it will on the second or third. That won’t be good enough for a lot of people.
Did you not notice that the front sight is attached via screw from the underside of the slide?
Put some loc-tite on it and tight it down straight if your was not quite tight enough and got pushed off-center a bit. Problem solved.
I also want to point out that I’ve never had a single FTF, jam or otherwise negative experience with my XDm.
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This gun is curently on sale on palmetto state armory for $239.00
I purchased the P/T 111 G2 after trading in some rifles and only had to lay out 100$ cash to walk away with it. Affordability is a very big issue for me and after looking at Ruger and Bersa And Kel-tec I found this to be a good “Middle of the Road” pistol. I have a S&W SD9VE as well as a Hi-Point JCP in 40S&W (would NEVER consider carrying a HI-Point) and while I miss the capacity of the SD9 I don’t miss the trigger pull and the size. The Taurus is my carry pistol and I have to say that over 1000+ rounds I HAVE NOT HAD ONE hic-up with this gun at all!! I cleaned it out of the box and left the mags full for 48 hours before shooting. Not a single FTF or FTE. Very satisfied with this pistol. Cheap and very reliable. Lifetime warranty is a plus!
I can tell ya’ll that the lifetime warranty that Taurus states is not worth the words it is written in , I sent back a Model 80 .38 Special I had bought about 20 years ago ,I called to check on the repair status and was told that it could not be fixed but they could sell me an updated version for $200.00 , I told them to keep it and the old paperweight too . I always read where if they could not fix the firearm they would replace it well so much for that lifetime warranty , I will not buy another Taurus , and I would advise ya’ll if you want a lifetime warranty on a firearm that will be honored I would buy another brand . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .
I don’t think the fact that they could not repair a gun that they made 20 years ago a good enough reason to bash their warranty/repair service. That would be like going to ford and being pissed off that they didn’t have the piston rings for your 94 Taurus wagon.(no pun intended).. They have come a marathon in the reliability department. As of now I have 4000+ through my mil-pro 9mm G2 and still no failures at all. Except the slide failed to lock back when empty ONCE when shooting tula steel case crap
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I purchased the Taurus PT111 G2 at Academy Sports yesterday on Black Friday for $259.00 USC. I thought for $100.00 off the regular price, why not? I bought it for my grandson who is now 6 years old to put back for him when he is old enough to own a handgun. Fired 15 rounds through it this evening to ensure reliability and safety. It fired as smoothly as the wife’s S&W M&P Shield in .9mm and just as accurately with Remington 115 grain round nose projectiles. After the first 3 rounds, I figured out it does not respond well to a loose grip. After taking the solid grip route, the remaining 12 rounds punched out the target center. I have 36 consecutive years in law enforcement and corrections and this handgun was pretty impressive for the mininal purchase price. I would recommend it as a solid purchase. I rely on the S&W M&P Shield .40 Caliber as my daily conceal carry weapon, but would consider the PT111 as a decent back-up option.
I bought one recently and put 50 rounds through with no problems. Recoil is soft and manageable. with the cost of 9mm down and .22LR as hard to find as Unicorn’s Earwax or Mermaid Milk this may just be my new plinker.
Loading the magazines was problematic though. I had a hard time getting the 12th round in and after some lurking on different websites found out that the followers used in some of the mags were not the right ones. Some surgery is required to make 12 rounds fit easily. I think I’ll just stick with 11 round mags for now.
Also, I’ve been seeing a few images on web stores with the PT111 G2 being shown in Flat Dark Earth. The Taurus website makes no mention of offering the guns in that color. Does anyone have any info on this?
Contact Taurus and ask them if they have updated followers to send you.
I saw FDE at Academy and I think that was for particular retailers.
So I found one more thing to complain about. On the left side of the slide, right above the “G2” engraving the rear left corner of the ejection port is sharp. I will be filing this down as the damn thing bit me as i was practicing some FTF/FTE slide re-racks. Could have easily drawn blood. Gun still functions flawlessly; just a fit and finish gripe. Everything I’ve complained about are minor issues. I paid $199 for this gun brand new and I bought a second one just to have. For the price it cannot be beat. These are nowhere close to the Jimenez, Hi-Point category of firearms at all. I cannot speak for every single Taurus ever made but the 3 I own are good reliable guns.
Read your owners manual. It tells you to give the butt of the Mag a firm “Rapp” with the palm of your hand.
You’ll hear the follower spring relax, and the remaining rounds slide in like butter.
This tip also works on my “high capacity” Glock mags too.
To say second strike is not a feature is rediculous. i won’t carry a CCW weapon that does not have second strike capability. I bet the author will change his mind quick if he survives an encounter where his non-dominant hand/arm is unavailable due to injury or being used to fend off an attacker and he only has is dominant hand to use which is on the pistol. You going to rack the slide for a new round then??? Not unless you are Houdini. I bet you’d be damn glad you had a second chance at firing that round. As far as the manual safety, if you don’t like one on a gun, here’s a newsflash….remove the safety lever, ball bearing and spring that makes up the manual safety assembly and now you have a non-manual safety glock style handgun. I have a lot of handguns at different price levels and i love this gun. I bought 2 of them for $199 each at palmetto state armory.
Think twice before ever buying a self defense firearm without second strike capability folks!
Thought I’d read up on the PT-111 G2. I currently have a 24/7C Titanium slide and carry it in a crossbreed horse hide IWB. Since the Titanium guns are getting scarce and the prices are climbing, I’m thinking of retiring the 24/7 and replacing it with something that fits in the same holster. That leaves me the 809, 111 or another 24/7. The price on the 111 G2 is lower than the others which is always a good thing. It has 12 rd mags instead of the 13/17 rds but that’s not much of a trade off. I went to Academy Sports today and test fitted the 111 G2 in my holster. It fits but slightly loose. Nothing a hair driyer and a little time shaping the ABS plastic holster won’t cure. Also the 12 round magazine does not work in the 24/7C. It’s a little pricey at Academy now, $364 I think it was. It’s available in many places for around $225 now. Academy is the only place I’ve seen it with a tan frame. Looks cool but not worth the extra money. Since it appears to have much more good reviews than bad, I think I’ll order one. I’ve had good results with Taurus warranty….although it’s always been handled by Academy for me. We’ll see! One more thing, about the manual safety. The 111 looks like it has a Glock style trigger and if that’s the case it will not hurt to just leave the safety off. I don’t see how it’s even an issue.
If you shop around these can be had for $200 new.
It’s a super deal.
With these at about $200 there is no reason for anyone to ever buy a Hi-Point.
Get the Shield 9mm. All the advantages of this one and it has a great trigger. First M&P to have a great trigger from the factory.
I got one today and it seems. Both mags. Rattle quite a bit a. Lot. Of sloppyness nyone else
FYI, Mecgar Sig P226 magazine functions flawlessly in the PT111 G2. I have range tested them and use an 18-round as a backup mag.
Palmetto state armory has them on sale for $200.
I just bought one from Palmetto for $200. I’ve seen them several places for that price recently but they sell out very fast (I wonder why?). This ranks right up there with some of the best deals I’ve ever got on any gun. Only one other gun was a better deal for me in fact. I have a PT-145, which is the .45 caliber sibling of this gun, and it has been completely reliable through 5000 rounds. It’s very accurate to 25 yards and has great ergonomics. I can’t find a single fault with it. I paid $320 for it and thought I got a steal. Now I have a 9mm version for a ridiculously low $200. I guess they sorta wore out the “Millennium” name given that the gun was designed to coincide with the turn of the century. It says a lot about the quality of this line that they’re still selling them 15 years past the Millennium date. I’ve had my PT145 for 12 years. I’m actually buying this for my wife to carry. She has trouble with a .45 but this should be great. The recoil on my .45 is a nice, straight back push which took me a while to learn to fire well because it doesn’t work well with an isosceles stance. But a slight bend of my elbow (to heck with the rules of the isosceles) and it became near recoil Nirvana. It really works well for follow up shots. I can only imagine how smooth the 9mm version will be. I can’t wait to find out.
I picked one up from Palmetto State Armory as well (for $200) and ran two hundred rounds through it. My impressions so far are this:
From the factory with 115gr ammo it shoots very low and left at 7 yards. Adjusted the rear sight to get on center, but the vertical adjustment rises to a peak and then goes back down when you turn the screw (not topping out and stopping).
I adjusted to max height and it still shot low with 115 gr. I had to place the top of front sight above the bullseye to get it on target. According to Taurus forums, switching to 124 gr ammo (or higher) should help with that.
No feed problems, second strike worked on one round that failed to fire on the first hammer strike. Trigger was fine, better than S&Ws I’ve shot (not as good as a Steyr or XDM).
The grip was good, and the pinkie extender on the mag allowed me a proper grip with all my fingers while still being small enough for concealed carry. Problem is, extra mags are $35, which is funny since the gun with two mags is $200 (is the rest of the gun only worth $130?).
The safety switch is light and flickable and a nice backup. Most of the other controls are human-sized (I can’t even reach the mag release on some HKs).
The only downside to the gun I have observed so far is its accuracy. It’s fine enough for its intended purpose (and 99% of DGUs), but it isn’t a tack driver. I’ve shot tighter groups at 25 yards with XDMs and Steyrs than I did with this thing at 7.
Granted, I’m comparing a $200 gun to $500-600 full-size guns with cold forged barrels, so it’s not quite apples to apples. Keeping price in mind, this is a good first gun for most shooters.
Bought my PT111 G2 at Whittikers Guns in Owensboro KY for $179. Have had feeding problems with the first couple of rounds from day one. FMJ and especially JHP’s. As long as I put up pressure on the mag when racking the slide it will not happen. Disappointed that I’m going to have to send it for repair with less than 200 rounds.
I also recently bought a PT111 G2. In the manual it states to half load each magazine and smack the bottom of the mags on your palm to help seat the spring and follower. It then states to continue loading both mags and leave them fully loaded for at least 48 hours. I did this, and then I also loaded and unloaded each mag about 10 times just to make sure that the springs went through a handful of compression cycles. At the range with 200+ rounds I had no issues. Also, I would only use quality American made ammo or good foreign ammo like Fiocchi or Sellier & Bellot. Avoid any type of TulAmmo, Sumbro, ZQ1, and other cheap foreign ammo. They always seem to give me problems and cartridge length is often out of spec.
Perhaps try these things, if you haven’t already, before contacting Taurus.
I did try letting the magazines sit for a couple of days and even opened the magazine lips a slight bit. However this did not work either. My Dad purchased a G2 the same day and his does perfect. His will feed Hornady critical defense all day. Mine gets caught on the feed ramp everytime. Sent it to Taurus and very disappointed that it will be 6 weeks. Probably will not buy a Taurus again. Maybe great guns but I feel a little burn on this one.
When inserting a new mag, I’ve had the first round of Hornady XTP sometimes catch on the feed ramp. It’s only the first round, though. When firing, everything after that cycles normally.
My solution is to top off the mag with one round of Winchester round-nose ammo. Bingo. No more feeding problems on new mags.
I ended up sending the gun to Taurus for repair. A bad extractor spring was the issue. Since the repair the gun has fed flawlessly through hundreds of rounds and I have total confidence to carry it daily. You shouldn’t have any problems feeding the first round and shouldn’t have to use a different round for the first feed.
Good tip for those with limited strength to use an empty magazine to lock the slide back! Thanks Harold
They have them at Palmetto State armory for $199.99
Got mine about a month ago on sale for $199.99. Traded in my 20 year old Astra for $75.00 and got it cheap. I use it as my carry weapon. Light and low profile. Good to know it will fire cheaper steel ammo.
I haven’t had a problem with any ammo with this gun until today. I ran Winchester 124 grain Nato (not Luger) ammo through it and encountered some hard primers. They wouldn’t fire even with a second hamer strike. I had to run them through my XDM.
YMMV
I got this gun recently. It is a great little gun. Some one mentioned that you can use sig p226 magazines. Well you can also use Canik TP9 V1 in this Taurus. I tried it at the range and it works. The only issue is that it does not hold open on last round. Since the tp9 sa and tp9 V2 magazines are backward compatible they should also work in the PT111 G2.
Now I am curous if the Sig P226 mags will works in the TP9. Based on the pictures of the magazines I think there is a chance the larger mags work.
I have a G2 in 9mm and I’m very happy with her. She has a sexy stainless steel slide. She’s easy to grip. Recoil is relatively light. Nice sights. Great grouping. Rapid fire is slick (this was done with Hornaday Critical Defense rounds) and groupings were tighter than I imagined they would be. She hates Blazer ammo, but everything else she’s eaten up like a little piggy. Easy to take down and clean. I like the safety. Trigger is Glock-like but with a long pull. Once it breaks, it’s very light and crisp and the reset is really short. Like I said…I’m happy with her.
I own 4 of these guns both calibers and colors so needless to say I enjoy and trust them. But unlike reported in this review the magazines have a slight rattle when loaded and in the well. As they are for the car and night stand that flaw is easily looked past for it’s other qualities.
I purchased the PT 1111 Millenium G2 on 11/30/2015. I took it to the range on 12/5/2015. I was ONLY able to get through ONE magazine before the slide would no longer close with a magazine that has ammo, but the slide closes fine when empty. These are the two magazines that came with the gun.
This POS is worthless and unsafe in my opinion. I am sending it in for repair and then selling it immediately and purchasing the Smith and Wesson M and P Shield 9mm sub-compact even though the price is $150 more. The gun may carry 12 rounds instead of 6 like the M and P Shield, but if it does not work when you need it you are dead.
NEVER purchase this gun.
KJ
I’m sorry for KJ’s experience with the G2. He never said if he handed it to someone else to load and rack the slide. That’s what I would’ve done just to be sure it wasn’t my own “operator error”. But he’s probably an experienced gun owner and his review is what it is.
My PT-111 G2, which I’ve had for 8 months is a great gun. No problems whatsover. I like the ergo, the non-snappy manageable recoil, and it shoots my reloads just fine. And don’t forget the trigger. I just checked the trigger pull and it is @ 5.25 lbs. This is a stock gun with no “trigger job”. Keep up the good work Taurus!
I purchased my PT 111 G2 on Dec. 10th, took it out to shoot on the 13th, and after 26 rnds the trigger safety snapped off. I sent it back for repairs and they are still waiting on the part 5 weeks later. Extremely disappointed at this point.
Same thing happened to me with less than 200 rounds. Was letting students shoot it during a CCL course I was teaching and been bragging on Taurus when it broke. Sent to Taurus and between 7-8 weeks and not fixed yet.
Using Glocks and Sigs in CCL class now.
I purchased my G2 about 4 months ago from a local private dealer. In this time I’ve put roughly 700 rounds through it without a single FTF, FTE, etc…The ammo was mostly Federal 115gr, Winchester white box 115gr, a couple magazines of 124gr Speer Gold Dots, one box of Tula, 147gr. Hornady XTP (stay away from these as the short barrel doesn’t do well with the heavier rounds) as well as a 2 boxes of 90gr. Underwood Extreme Defender. Fairly accurate for a carry gun with a 3″ bbl, I am able to keep double and triple taps in a 3″ circle from 10 yards. Also, slow fired it will hold sub 2″ groups from 15 yards. which is perfectly acceptable for any compact handgun in my book. I wasn’t thrilled with the white 3-dot sites factory installed on the gun, they just don’t stand out enough for me so I painted the dots with fluorescent acrylic paint. (Orange on the front a green on the rear) I have had no problems with the magazines as others have stated here, I simply took them out of the box and loaded them with 12rds each and left them alone for a week.(My brother owns the same pistol and was nice enough to let me borrow his 2 spare magazines for a week.) The ergonomics of the pistol are outstanding although I did have to change my grip a little as I regularly shoot 1911’s(“IPSC” grip) and the smaller frame doesn’t allow the same amount of forward tilt I normally use for my support hand. The small safety has not presented any problems for me so far, I simply make disengaging the safety part of my draw and it becomes instinctual. I’ve been carrying it exclusively for the past 3 months and I have to say it is a great daily carry gun. It’s light, thin, and conceals well in a Pro-Carry Quickdraw from Theholsterstore. Overall, for the money it’s hard to go wrong with this pistol.
Also, as an aside, there has been alot of talk about the lack of aftermarket sites available for these guns. After some searching I found that the Advantage Tactical triangular sites for the PT709 slim fit this pistol perfectly and have a set on order as we speak.
As always YMMV
My PT111 G2 has been completely reliable and is now my carry. When these go on sale, I don’t hesitate at all to recommend them to friends and family for the great value they provide. Taurus has a great product here at a great price point.
I own this wonderful peace of beauty. I got it straight from the factory as my job works with Taurus so we get employee discounts and I got this just under $200. I still think it’s totally worth the msrp and love firing rapid fire with it. I normally shoot from about 30 yards and it’s very accurate from factory. I belive 12 rounds are enough and I run 115 grain Winchester fmj. Very easy to clean, I served in the Marines so I’m pretty big on cleaning my firearms. I totally recommend this as a carry weapon as it fits perfectly in my and is easy to conceal.
My first gun was a Taurus revolver in 1979. It was a wonderful gun. I have had a few since. I had a model 92, great gun. A TCP 738 ( the cheap one ) . Sucked. A PT 740. Fair. A stainless model 94. SUCKED !. I have found over time as many have that Taurus has ups and downs when building hand guns. I purchased the PT 111 G2 last month and took it to the range for the first time yesterday. I can honestly say , I love this little pistol. All I had to do was make a small adjustment to the sights ( I am south paw ) and I was spot one every time I tried 3 typed of ammo, 7 year old gold dot. Blazer FMJ and some old Winchester ammo that none of my guns liked. I had zero failures. It ran as consistent as an old singer sewing machine I have to say other than the distance to the moon take up on the trigger and a stiff release I really like this gun. I have no issues with trusting my life to this weapon. I believe I will hang on to this one for a while.
This gun looks and feels great. I really want to love it and carry it. However, this thing will not sight in as a carry gun. This shoots low and left after adjusting the sights several times out at the range. I am done with this gun!
I bought 2 of the PT 111 G2s on Gunbroker. Paid $201 for one and $210 for the other. I’ve only shot one of them but it reliably ate everything I fed it from 115 grain ball to 147 grain HPs. I’m not a Taurus fanboy per say, although I own 7 of them (I own a lot of handguns and have a Taurus section, Ruger section, Glock section, ect). I’m now using the G2 as my primary carry weapon. I think it’s about the smallest double stack 9mm you’re going to find. I use a fobus holster and just let my tee shirt hang over it. Virginia is an open carry state so if the bottom inch or two is visible it’s not a big deal. Listing the perks…loaded chamber indicator, second strike capability, extra magazine supplied, Glock style safe action trigger, picatinny rail, and adjustable sights.
Great trigger video. Has the gun ever had any problems?
I bought my g2 9mm about 3 months ago and do to illness havent had much time with her.How ever I have fired it about 25 times and today took it back to my dealer for the second time for hanging up after about 3 rounds.I am disapointed but my dealer was on the phone with taurus before I left the and they will be sending it back to the company.They are requesting a replacement not just a fix.I will let you no how things work out.For now I am back to carring mt old LLama max 1 in 45acp. 1911 clone.
Hi, I am back with good news about my G2 111 which I had to send back to the company. Well the turn around time was only 10 days which I think is pretty good compared to some reviews here were it took weeks.Now to head to the range to put her to work. I will let you no how she works this time.
Well im back and i am very ticked off with my G2 taurus and after 36 rounds at the range it hung up for the third time. the G2 111 is not going back on my hip,If I cant be completely sure it will work every time I cant trust it to protect my family or myself. that being said anyone have a good gun to buy in 9mm that is easy to carry and easy to shoot.I am disabled and need to cover my butt and my wife as she is also disabled.So any ideas that would make a great carry gun that is affordable. Thankyou for any advice you may have.
Hi ,I am back once again seeking advice on a good relible carry gun. I am looking for a 9mm easy to clean any nice to work with. My wife and I are both disabled and in a recent we live in the 5th worse place to live in Mi. do to looseing all of our factorys . Any ideas would be great.I have a TAURUS G 2 111 That has now had problems with hang ups.after 2 times we sent it back to the company just got it back and it hung up again.A Taurus is out of the question.I have no faith in this company.A carry gun must fire first time everytime all the time.I would like to replace it with someting afordable and reliable. Any advice would be greatly thankful !
The Ruger LC9 might be a good alternative. It’s not a double stack, but that also means it’s a little easier to conceal. On sale today at Palmetto State Armory (online). I think I got an email from them this morning advertising for $349.
After a brand new Taurus was sent back to the factory twice, and still has issues, I think I’d be asking for a new replacement gun.
Reviews on the PT 111 – G2, have mostly been stellar and ratings have generally been far above most other new plastic guns.
I got mine from Palmetto on line for $199.99
Dont mean to quibble, but you list weight at 23 oz. Manual says 20.8. While website says 22 oz. I called taurususa, girl on other end says manual should be correct. Your experience?
who’s listing weight as 23 oz?
What WEBSITE says 22 oz?
I’d believe the manual at 20.8, but that might be without a Mag installed.
The empty mag is probably another couple ounces, so, whoever is saying 23 oz, is probably with an EMPTY mag installed.
Taurususa.com is the website. 22 oz stated clearly. Their own website contradicts their own manual. Elementary error.
(Dec 2016) Just purchased one and ran 150 rounds thru it with no issues using various ammo (fmj 124, 147 jhp, 124 jhp, 115 jhp+p). Trigger works for me – some folks don’t like it. It’s not a nail tacker – but I can safely hit the vitals within 15 yards (good enough for a defensive situation). IMHO It is the “Best bang for the buck” at $239 brand new! Add Lakeline LLC night sights (lamps made by Trijicon) and you got a low budget, quality yet reliable EDC pistol. This will take the place of my expensive HK P30sk which I will save for fun time at the range.
In response to Marty Luther:
When you say “hang up” what exactly do you mean? My guess is failure-to-feed. If this is the case, what ammo are you shooting when the hang-ups occur? Certain hollow points with very flat faces may have issues feeding in this gun due to the short, steep feed ramp. The first thing I do to any compact/sub-compact semi auto is polish the feed ramp. This is a general issue with most small frame semi-auto pistols when firing certain hollow points. If you still have the pistol, have your gunsmith do a good polish job on the feed ramp. This may help solve any failure to feed issues you may have.
Most people don’t do long-term tests, so here is a small update of my experience with my PT111 G2.
First recoil spring assembly (RSA) failed at 1,000 rounds. Got a replacement from Taurus within a week of my call. The new RSA failed after 500 rounds. Taurus is currently out of stock of that particular item. The engineers in Miami are aware of the shortcoming. They don’t officially recommend any aftermarket parts, but unofficially mentioned parts from Lakeline that are thicker ($30). Lakeline also sells night sights.
I purchased a new Taurus PT111 G2 a couple of days ago for $209.00 including tax. They are being advertised locally as being on sale for $199. I wanted to replace a Glock 26 that I had to sell, money being tight at the moment. Without range time yet and the opportunity for failures to surface, there are a few observations I have that are the result of having owned and fired a number of different pistols. First, this is a slim pistol. It is significantly slimmer than the Glock. It’s also well made. By that I mean it isn’t sloppy. In this price range, only the Hi-Point is available in 9mm. This is no Hi-Point, which has its fans, but is closer to most polymer pistols costing much more. I’m not going to say that this is equal to or better than a Glock, but the features include a safety. I don’t have to have a safety, but I want that option. Glocks don’t have anything more than a Safe Action System. That means no safety. It’s 12 round magazine is a plus over the 10 of the 26. I’m retired on a fixed income. Spending the money on a higher priced pistol isn’t the option it once was. I’m ready to work with the Taurus PT111 G2 with the intent of making it a carry pistol. The reviews haven’t discouraged me, neither has the pistol itself in my hands. I’m an older, experienced shooter. This pistol seems to have the right DNA.
This new pistol will surprise you, just as it has with all my friends who own Beretta’s, Glock’s & SD’s.
Enjoy
There was an ammo shortage ?? In 2013??
Hmm.
I am surprised he gave this gun a good review because it is cheap. I figured he would lie about it like he did the high-point c9. I have both this gun and a high-point c9 and both are just as reliable as the other.
I think this Taurus is every bit as good as my Glock 26 (Baby Glock) and actually out performs it in some (if not All) ways.
The only reason my EDC is the Glock 26, is because I also own a Glock 17, and I have several extra 17 round mags for the G17 that are interchangeable with Mt Baby Glock 26.
It happens to be real easy to (conceal) carry an extra 17 round mag for the EDC G26.
The Taurus is my Truck gun, resting happily in my glovbox with its own extra mags.
At $200 each I plan to purchase a few more of the PT 111, for wife, daughter and son.
That kind of money only gets you ONE Glock!
Since when does an elitist shoot a s&w or Springfield? 😂
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I’ve had my 111g2 for 2 years. It’s been perfect. I broke it in…racked the slide 100’s of time,lightened the trigger with snapcaps and cleaned the hell out of it. Lubed NOW with Ballistol. Presto my $200 Brazilian beauty works😋😄😊😏
Just got the newest G2C. And its very evident that taurus has stepped their game up. I would have never ever bought anything Taurus in semi auto. But i bought my son the G2C for Christmas and was shocked how well it shot and felt. So Academy had them for 199.99 and i snagged one up. This really is a great gun for the price. I’d even go as far as saying its an AMAZING gun for the price. As a note. Get a LakeLine LLC Stainless Steel guide rod. The one that comes with the Taurus is polymer and has been known to malfunction. Got one for 28 bucks and the gun shoots even smoother with less felt recoil. A must have upgrade for this gun. I no longer hate Taurus. Never say never i guess…
Bought my G2 in the spring of ’17. First time to the range had 8 misfires in the first 3 magazines. Some double, some triple strike (factory ammo). Diagnosed as light strike and one of the range attendants commented that my ammo (Magtech) had “hard” primers. I loaded some empty brass with various primers and at a friend’s place, out of town, popped them. 6 misfires out of 50. Took out the firing pin and super cleaned it. Next time at the range, 2 mags no problems. Reloaded with same ammo, first shot, bang, second-click, next went bang, next two misfired, so I unloaded it, into the range bag, enjoyed other firearms, and the G2 is now at Taurus for repairs. When I get it back, she’ll get one more try at the range, and then maybe retirement!
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Bought the millennium G2 when it first came out in 2013. It was $299 then. It became my EDC. Still works perfectly today and I recently added the newer G2c. Both fantastic guns at a great price.
What’s the life of Taurus G2 melenium barrel i,e how many rounds it fires?
Actually I found the thumb safety to be one of the best on any small gun. Far better than the one on my Shield which is small and easy to miss. I got mine a couple years ago when they were selling for $185. All said, I still carry my Glock 19.