Call me an elitist, but I’m a S&W and Springfield fan when it comes to my polymer pistols. Gaston’s guns are OK, but they’ve never fit me. So when it comes to a carry gun, mine either says M&P or XD(m). I basically wouldn’t be caught dead with a Glock. However, the folks at Taurus have me begrudgingly admitting that I might have been a narrow in my assessment of carry guns. And here’s why . . .
Fit and Finish
In my mind, Taurus guns have always been associated with “The Judge” and generally larger, cheaper handguns. So imagine my surprise when I unboxed the Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 to find a well-crafted, compact polymer handgun. I racked the slide a few times and rattled it in the hopes of finding some sloppiness. No dice. I slid an empty magazine home, heard it click, and then hit the release. I watched the magazine drop free. Damned if everything didn’t seem to work. And then I saw that MSRP was $349. Consider my snobbiness subdued.
Reliability
I immediately headed to the range and ran a few hundred rounds of Blazer 115 gr., cheap steel-case Tula, and 147 gr. HydraShocks. I’m pleased to report that the G2 ate everything without so much as a single hiccup. However, due to the current climate surrounding ammo availability, I was unable to put more than 200 rounds downrange and I so am unable to make a complete judgement on reliability. However, I ran the gun with only the lubrication from the factory (not much) and didn’t clean it at all.
Accuracy
I found the G2 to be quite accurate given its diminutive size. I was able to produce minute of bad guy groups at combat distances. Even though the rear sight is adjustable, there was no need to mess with it as the gun hit what I was aiming at out to about 15 yards. The targets above were slow fired at 7 yards. The G2 uses fairly standard 3 dot sights and I found them easy to get lined up and on target. Beware aggressive cleaners as these are just painted. Caustic substances could likely eat those dots away.
To Carry or Not?
As a gun, it does the basics of what a gun should do. It fires with each squeeze of the trigger, and it does so fairly accurately. A carry gun however, should be able to do all that as well as be comfortable to tote and dead stupid easy to use. The thin profile of the G2 makes concealed carry extremely comfortable. I carried the G2 in my CompTac MTAC IWB holster and hardly noticed it at all. The gun is light and doesn’t have any major protrusions to jam into your side. When you do clear leather, you’ll find the G2 easy to get a grip on as it’s covered in nearly abrasive stippling all over. There’s simply no way to grip the G2 and not get a good purchase.
The G2, though, sports a manual safety which I believe fails the “dead stupid easy” test. The safety is very small and hard to flick off in a hurry. For that reason, I would be hesitant to have it has my personal carry weapon. During my time carrying the gun for this review, I carried it with the safety off. There’s also a loaded chamber indicator, which I also think you don’t need unless you have bad gun safety habits.
Trigger (double-action/single-action, 6lb trigger pull)
The go pedal has a LOOOOONNNGG travel that measures 2 lbs. to get you to the very crisp 6 lb. break with just a tiny bit of reset that kind of pops back on you. In the video above you can see the trigger sort of spit past the reset. The G2 also features a second strike capability which some folks seem to count as a feature. Personally, if a round doesn’t fire, I want it out of the gun and now. However, with ammo in short supply, maybe it’s worth giving the primer a second tap just to make sure. Second strike or not, the trigger break is very crisp and contributed to the gun’s good accuracy.
Cleanliness
The Millennium G2 breaks down just like one of Gaston’s guns. Clear the gun, pull the tabs down, squeeze the trigger and pull the slide forward. The G2 breaks down to frame, barrel, recoil spring, and slide. All the surfaces are coated and carbon wipes off easily with a bit of your cleaner of choice. Reassembly requires no fancy acrobatics and be accomplished in about 30 seconds.
Final Conclusions
The G2 is a surprisingly good gun. While small, it still packs 12 + 1 on board in an easy to shoot, accurate package. It carries nicely and is covered in grippy stippling so you can always get a good purchase. The only real “ding” I have is on the gun’s manual safety. And the only manual safety I’ve really ever liked in a carry gun is the big paddle on the 1911. If you give the G2 a try and like it, you might just consider carrying it with the safety off like a true mall ninja.
Specifications: Taurus Millennium G2
- Model: 111G2
- Finish: Blue
- Caliber: 9 mm (.40 coming soon!)
- Capacity: 12+1
- Weight: 22 oz
- Barrel Length: 3.2 inches
- Length: 6.24 inches
- Price: $349 (usually about $100 less via Cabela’s and Brownells)
Fit and Finish * * * * *
The level of quality evident in the G2 is in line with $600 – $900 polymer frame pistols. No rattles, squeaks, or clumsy machining.
Reliability * * * * *
Zero FTF/FTEs during testing, but due to current ammo shortages, this wasn’t really a complete test.
Accuracy * * * *
For a carry gun, it was accurate enough. This is definitely not a 50 yard pistol, but can definitely be considered combat accurate.
Carry * * * *
From a form perspective, this is a very concealable gun capable of holding a decent amount of 9 mm. However, it has a manual safety that’s hard to (de)actuate in a hurry.
Trigger * * * * *
Crisp and breaks like glass at 6 lbs. exactly. The reset point is a short throw away, and has an audible click. The second strike capability is nice, but in my opinion doesn’t add a lot of value.
Cleaning * * * * *
Super easy.
Overall * * * *
As a standalone product, this is an awesome gun. I was thoroughly impressed and I would have expected something like this at a price point closer to $500-$600. For a $349 price tag, this may be the best “bang for the buck” pistol I have had the opportunity to test.
No concealed carry is not deceitful. Weather, business attire and choice are some of the reasons why it is a good choice. I live in Virginia and open carry occasionally but concealed carry most of the time. My choice for my reasons. No one or gov’t should be able to dictate hoe I carry.
Rename the location to Durango Shooting Range (or such) and make the “club” a membership aside from the location. For identification purposes, require shooters to have at least one affiliation with a firearms’ organization. For example, they could be a member of the NRA, local/national range club, etc. Incentive is a reduced fee to shoot, targets, % off on ammo, etc.
Have a PT145 thats great, acquired a PT845 that was total garbage (FTF and a poorly finished slide.) Sent it back to Taurus and they screwed me around for 2 months before finally doing the right thing and sending a replacement. The replacement was OK but still an occasional FTF so I sold it at a loss and chalked up a lesson, any hint of Taurus trouble dump it because their service facility in Miami sucks.
Double strike is a boon for practicing with crap ammo. I shot 50 rounds of Tula 9mm this weekend, two FTF that shot with the second pull of the trigger. My wife’s LC9 has one FTF with her 50, no double strike with that one.
The gun grabber shot there bolts no pun intended. Instead of looking a a small Manchin-Toomey bill from day 1 in December they want full DiFi and wanted the BIG gun bans and registration so they got us awake and fighting. Liberals outside of a few in NY and CA never are gun banners really at all. They vote for taxes to go up and the destruction of marriage so they were not interested in a Clintonisc gun grab. This made very good point thanks Dan for the post.
Gun what? Why has no one told me!
not a poly gun but my circa-2009 PT1911 has been trouble free. fired a triple once when another shooter limp wristed it, but that’s not the guns fault. i really like the idea of their smaller poly guns, especially if they’re just as good.
WOW. Real basket case of a carry prohibition. Making criminals out of law-abiding pistol owners. Incidentally, how do they propose to ascertain the Manufacture Date of the magazines in question? Rabbi?
Unfortunately I wont be able to attend ( wife recovering from surgery ), but I already let every politician in Pennsylvania know I will do EVERYTHING I can to make them lose their seat if they ever vote against any right of the people.
I have found using logic with a liberal, even my mother, was usually ineffective at best, and caused them to further regress and retrench into their original position at worst.
Logical arguments requires a logical brain. Using the cliche’d arguments about cars, licensing, insurance, constitutional rights, etc…. never work.
Emotion, feelings, individual experiences will lower resistance to “truth” and “understanding”. Finding agreeable material (to your argumen) from a “liberal-friendly” sources, while difficult, can help in breaking the barriers down. These can be found, but are more difficult.
I would recommend caution, as she is your mother – having lost my mother last year, who disagreed with me quite often on politics, I hope that you steer clear of discussion except when you can be polite and respectful at all times. I understand your challenges – just like a child, a liberal is most pliable when their emotional state is one of “happiness” and “joy”. Treat them as such! 🙂
Remember when an M4 was stolen from ATF agents during that “sting” operation in Milwaukee? What I wouldn’t give for it to turn out to be THAT M4.
So you want to move to the San Francisco of Texas to maintain your “conservative values”? Really? Why not move to Portland, Oregon? Perhaps SoBe in Miami Beach, Florida?
I live in Switzerland now and a 3 your old swiss kid was runnnig around making pew pew powpow noises. this is not an American thing but a global social understanding. having said that kid would ahve loved the mustard/ketchup guns
aren’t we all so grateful the Imperial Federal government is going to pick and choose what “weapons” we are allowed in order to satisfy our 2A rights…. well, that and the fact that they are still going to allow the little people to hunt.
She makes my skin crawl…I too couldn’t bring myself to watch the video. No need to though, I’ve already heard all of her 2nd Amendment hate speeches and she’s starting to annoy me. It’s time she recognizes her own irrelevancy and jumps off a cliff with Schummer and Cuomo….
+1 for the reference to The Jerk! However, I’ve already found my special purpose, and it doesn’t resemble what you’ve got pictured here…
DO NOT SCREW WITH MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS !
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Ive had this gun since Jan. . I seen it at the gun shop and loved it when i held it but I wanted to do some homework on it so I put it down, went to research it and it was to new …Taurus didnt have anything on it but deminsions so I desided to give it a try being the gun was priced at 329 at that time they hadent even priced it went back to store it was gone ….store owner said he had 3 and they flew off the shelf and would be getting 1 or 2 more in in a couple days . so two days later i went in at open and bought 1. 4 days after that i went and bought 2 more to make sure my friends could get one…..this gun is great ive put well over 600 rounds through it of all types of ammo not one mess up and anyone else that shoots it loves it and wants one, however i havent seen them on the shelf anywhere for some time now. Taurus did a awesome job with this gun and I would recommend this for new,women,men ,carry shooters of all types . I’m looking forward to trying the .40 when i see it i want to see how it will compare to my M&P.40c
I bought my G2 4 months ago and have put 700 rounds down range. Gun is well made and i have had no issues with it at all. Fun to shoot and very accurate. Besides my G2 i own a 85 ultra light revolver and a 738 .380 made by Taurus. I had to send the .380 back to Taurus since i started having extraction issues.Customer service paid to have gun returned for repair and was returned to me within 3 weeks.It has worked perfectly since they installed new ejector .
Just bought one of these PT111 G2s today. Trigger is better than my PT709 Slim and I get five more rounds in each magazine. Looking forward to wringing it out on the range.
Tight my behind,Sounds like a childs rattle.430 rounds down range often jammed at an angle upward toward chamber when slide racked,Often ftfeed into chamber requiring a push of the slide to finish the cycle.Back to Taurus,Hope it works out,gun feels great.As of this time it’s a pos.Stoeger Cougar compact 35 dollars more far better quality.Xd compact,sr9c,m&p compact all far more reliable,not that much more costly.Little Taurus felt to good in hand to pass on though really hope they can turn it into a working gun.
Have put 500 rounds through mine with no FTF or FTE. My other carry is an XDm 3.8. They are equally accurate at 7 yards. The only jam came from manually racking “too slow”. My fault, not the guns. Would love it if i could find some hi-vis sights for it. Would recommend as a comfortable, easy to conceal carry.
FOT = Finger On the Trigger
George, my wife can the slide ok with my 809, a lil difficult, but she’s just starting out and getting used to it… Main thing is repetition and training.. she’s come a long way since we’ve first started shooting together.. the PT111 is a little smaller, 12+1 compared to 17+1, but she’s getting there..
“Consent of the governed”-kind of has a nice ring to it…
I’m not really wealthy enough to just buy whatever. So price is a big consideration, but I still want quality. When I was looking for my first gun, I wanted something easy for home protection. Remington 870 was recommended by fellow at gun shop and it was under $500 so I got that. When looking for first pistol, Glock 19 fit kind of the same bill. I figured everyone on Earth couldn’t be wrong. Henry lever action .22 was under $400 and just a fun range toy, read a lot of reviews bashing Marlin fit & finish. Other guns later for similar reasons.
When I buy a gun, I first check reviews on multiple websites and forums. I give no weight to “Gun Magazines” because they don’t write negative reviews. I want something easy to maintain, not super expensive, that has a good reputation for functioning without a lot of monkey business. The word “tactical” generally turns me off.
Too bad for would be shooters of these guys, they mostly think guns are “icky”.
From the ad: “and no one has the right to tell me what’s best to defend my family.” Well, that’s just offensive. David Gregory, Feinstein, Obama, Holder, Bloomberg, etc. clearly have the self-proclaimed right to limit our defensive options. What would we do without their wisdom? I could never come up with brilliant self defense schemes like shooting blindly through a door or up in the air without government level wisdom. It also sounds like Daniel Defense offers military grade (or better) equipment to lowly civilian shooters. Ridiculous. If my life is on the line, I want the least tested equipment with the tiniest possible magazines and the most safety features available. / epic sarcasm
I don’t see networks picking this up because it is way too supportive of the 2A “tradition.” It isn’t terribly interesting, but I don’t fault them much for that.
As an aside, the ad didn’t play on my iPhone 5 using private browsing, but worked fine from my MacPro with Start Page search engine.
Give the guy a break. I’m pretty dyslexic and at times my spelling is horrid. I also regularly neglect to capitalize some words like Obama for instance.
I liked Giapetto, I mean Kelly, more before he shaved his head bald . . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULE7qxrdHng
I got my PT111 G2 9mm about one month ago, and have run about 500 rounds through it so far. My conclusion is that this gun is awesome! It is spot-on accurate, and it eats everything that I feed it. I am not comfortable with IWB carry, but I use a Blackhawk OWB nylon, and it works out just fine. It is a $329 pistol that feels as good as any much more expensive piece.. If you get the chance, try this gun. I can say that you will love it, and you will buy it!
My 9mm pt111 g2 won’t load a bullet in the chamber, I just bought the gun May 14, 2014
I’m having the same problem with the gun. What was the fix? Did you have to send it back?
Are you saying it won’t load a round when you rack the slide? Or after firing, it won’t eject and reload. I find that it needs to be racked quickly to function properly. Too slow, and the bullet will hang up on the ramp. Hope this helps.
I have had issues with some previous Taurus handguns. I did have some that did not give me any kind of problems, a PT709 Slim and a PT145. The first time I saw the PT111 Millennium Pro Gen 2 in a gun shop I visit regularly, I wanted to handle it. This shop does freak out if you pull the trigger on a center fire pistol. I loved the way if fit my hands, which are not large, and I really liked its trigger pull.
When I got the cash, I bought one and acquired two additional mags. I tried several brands of ammo, Fiocchi, Remington, Winchester, Blazer and RWS, in 115gr and 124gr FMJ. I also shot several rounds of different JHP. It ate whatever I fed it without any problems at all. I cleaned it first, then lubed it with Mil-Comm TW25B, like I always use on all of my firearms.
I used one of those orange stick on, 3″ bullseyes on my target, that was between 15′ and 18′. I was able to consistently put all 13 rounds into the 3″ circle. I kept one target I fired 13 rounds into that has a 2 1/8″ group. I am so satisfied with my Gen 2 that I carry it all day long.
I recently purchased a brand spanking new Taurus PT111 Millenium G2. I love this gun!!! Cost was $270. I love the fact it came with two clips also in the plastic case also. Tool it to the range straight out of the box and shot a nearly perfect score, missed by one point. Fired from the 3, 10, 15, 20 and 25 yards. a very accurate pistol. I would recommend it for anyone but especially for the discerning females as it’s a much better fit for a slightly smaller hand. I usually use a S&W 9mm that’s larger in size and as much as I love S&W… I love this Taurus. Keep looking you can find it for less!!!
Palmetto State Armory has the PT 111 Millennium G-2 on sale about twice a month for $199.99, and NO Sales Tax unless you live in Georgia. Shipping is only $17. When these go on sale, they’re usually completely “Out of Stock” by the next day.
I will say: I’m not a robot and I do not work for any gun MFG.
I picked this PT111 G2 up on a whim for $350. I’ve always wanted to try a Taurus and I had the money just looking to be spent on a new gun. My EDC is a .40 Cal Springfield 3.8 Springfield XDm and I’ve been looking for a single stack that is easier to carry for summer, so I picked this Taurus up. Let me say I love my XDm and the caliber. It’s a nice weapon and in fact everyone I let shoot it wants to get the same one themselves.
That being said, I was a little nervous buying such a cheap handgun, however Taurus has been around long enough that I felt comfortable with the buy. In the price range were Kel-Tek guns at this particular store and Kel-Tek is on my “no buy” list (I should say I’ve never owned or shot Kel-Tek, just initial impressions on them keeps me from owning.)
Anyways I just took it out with 50 Rounds of Winchester 9mm Luger FMJ and 50 rds of Winchester Luger hollow points. A friend who was shooting my Taurus had one jam (he may have limp wristed a little, not sure, but I never had a jam) and I personally had 3 Failure To Fire over this 100 total rounds. It was actually 2 bullets, first time it fired on the second trigger pull (thank You double action!) and on the other bullet it took Two additional trigger pulls after the first to get the bullet to fire off.
I do not know if it has a weak spring in this gun, but I’m going to chalk this one up to cheap components. The saving grace of this gun is the ability to pull the trigger again and strike on the same bullet rather than having to rack the slide and eject the round for a new one. I find this feature to make this gun a good self defense weapon in spite of having three trigger pulls without a solid hit on the primer during practice shooting. If my math is correct, this would equal a 1.5% failure rate by the handgun itself on the first trigger pull. However because it did shoot on the second or third pull without having to rack the slide, I think this handgun makes up for it’s failures. (I need to say that even though people keep saying this gun has “features equal to a $600-700 gun,” they are clearly a lot cheaper and not made for longevity and are not necessarily quality. In fact the front sight on this Taurus PT111 G2 is slightly off center and points to the left. This is a permanent sight, you cannot change it out. I’m not sure this affected my shooting though and this 9mm shoots straighter than my .40 Cal Springfield by a small margin.
That being said, this is my first gun review and my first 9mm. It will be used for CC in summer and at this point, I trust that if it doesn’t shoot on the first pull, it will on the second or third. That won’t be good enough for a lot of people.
I have 2 of these and the sights are fine.
In a self defense situation I doubt you will even be using the sights.
if you have a crooked sight contact taurus and use your lifetime warranty and get a new slide with sight.
I know I’m late to the party, but for future readers of these comments, I thought I’d point out that the front sight is in fact replaceable. It’s held on by a screw from inside the slide.
I will say: I’m not a robot and I do not work for any gun MFG.
I picked this PT111 G2 up on a whim for $350. I’ve always wanted to try a Taurus and I had the money just looking to be spent on a new gun. My EDC is a .40 Cal Springfield 3.8 Springfield XDm and I’ve been looking for a single stack that is easier to carry for summer, so I picked this Taurus up. Let me say I love my XDm and the caliber. It’s a nice weapon and in fact everyone I let shoot it wants to get the same one themselves.
That being said, I was a little nervous buying such a cheap handgun, however Taurus has been around long enough that I felt comfortable with the buy. In the price range were Kel-Tek guns at this particular store and Kel-Tek is on my “no buy” list (I should say I’ve never owned or shot Kel-Tek, just initial impressions on them keeps me from owning.)
Anyways I just took it out with 50 Rounds of Winchester 9mm Luger FMJ and 50 rds of Winchester Luger hollow points. A friend who was shooting my Taurus had one jam (he may have limp wristed a little, not sure, but I never had a jam) and I personally had 3 Failure To Fire over this 100 total rounds. It was actually 2 bullets, first time it fired on the second trigger pull (thank You double action!) and on the other bullet it took Two additional trigger pulls after the first to get the bullet to fire off.
I do not know if it has a weak spring in this gun, but I’m going to chalk this one up to cheap components. The saving grace of this gun is the ability to pull the trigger again and strike on the same bullet rather than having to rack the slide and eject the round for a new one. I find this feature to make this gun a good self defense weapon in spite of having three trigger pulls without a solid hit on the primer during practice shooting. If my math is correct, this would equal a 3% failure rate by the handgun itself on the first trigger pull. However because it did shoot on the second or third pull without having to rack the slide, I think this handgun makes up for it’s failures. (I need to say that even though people keep saying this gun has “features equal to a $600-700 gun,” they are clearly a lot cheaper and not made for longevity and are not necessarily quality. In fact the front sight on this Taurus PT111 G2 is slightly off center and points to the left. This is a permanent sight, you cannot change it out. I’m not sure this affected my shooting though and this 9mm shoots straighter than my .40 Cal Springfield by a small margin.)
That being said, this is my first gun review and my first 9mm. It will be used for CC in summer and at this point, I trust that if it doesn’t shoot on the first pull, it will on the second or third. That won’t be good enough for a lot of people.
Did you not notice that the front sight is attached via screw from the underside of the slide?
Put some loc-tite on it and tight it down straight if your was not quite tight enough and got pushed off-center a bit. Problem solved.
I also want to point out that I’ve never had a single FTF, jam or otherwise negative experience with my XDm.
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“There go… should be “Their”. I teach and it jumps out at me. Just finished my pistol course and am looking.
This gun is curently on sale on palmetto state armory for $239.00
I purchased the P/T 111 G2 after trading in some rifles and only had to lay out 100$ cash to walk away with it. Affordability is a very big issue for me and after looking at Ruger and Bersa And Kel-tec I found this to be a good “Middle of the Road” pistol. I have a S&W SD9VE as well as a Hi-Point JCP in 40S&W (would NEVER consider carrying a HI-Point) and while I miss the capacity of the SD9 I don’t miss the trigger pull and the size. The Taurus is my carry pistol and I have to say that over 1000+ rounds I HAVE NOT HAD ONE hic-up with this gun at all!! I cleaned it out of the box and left the mags full for 48 hours before shooting. Not a single FTF or FTE. Very satisfied with this pistol. Cheap and very reliable. Lifetime warranty is a plus!
I can tell ya’ll that the lifetime warranty that Taurus states is not worth the words it is written in , I sent back a Model 80 .38 Special I had bought about 20 years ago ,I called to check on the repair status and was told that it could not be fixed but they could sell me an updated version for $200.00 , I told them to keep it and the old paperweight too . I always read where if they could not fix the firearm they would replace it well so much for that lifetime warranty , I will not buy another Taurus , and I would advise ya’ll if you want a lifetime warranty on a firearm that will be honored I would buy another brand . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .
I don’t think the fact that they could not repair a gun that they made 20 years ago a good enough reason to bash their warranty/repair service. That would be like going to ford and being pissed off that they didn’t have the piston rings for your 94 Taurus wagon.(no pun intended).. They have come a marathon in the reliability department. As of now I have 4000+ through my mil-pro 9mm G2 and still no failures at all. Except the slide failed to lock back when empty ONCE when shooting tula steel case crap
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I purchased the Taurus PT111 G2 at Academy Sports yesterday on Black Friday for $259.00 USC. I thought for $100.00 off the regular price, why not? I bought it for my grandson who is now 6 years old to put back for him when he is old enough to own a handgun. Fired 15 rounds through it this evening to ensure reliability and safety. It fired as smoothly as the wife’s S&W M&P Shield in .9mm and just as accurately with Remington 115 grain round nose projectiles. After the first 3 rounds, I figured out it does not respond well to a loose grip. After taking the solid grip route, the remaining 12 rounds punched out the target center. I have 36 consecutive years in law enforcement and corrections and this handgun was pretty impressive for the mininal purchase price. I would recommend it as a solid purchase. I rely on the S&W M&P Shield .40 Caliber as my daily conceal carry weapon, but would consider the PT111 as a decent back-up option.
I bought one recently and put 50 rounds through with no problems. Recoil is soft and manageable. with the cost of 9mm down and .22LR as hard to find as Unicorn’s Earwax or Mermaid Milk this may just be my new plinker.
Loading the magazines was problematic though. I had a hard time getting the 12th round in and after some lurking on different websites found out that the followers used in some of the mags were not the right ones. Some surgery is required to make 12 rounds fit easily. I think I’ll just stick with 11 round mags for now.
Also, I’ve been seeing a few images on web stores with the PT111 G2 being shown in Flat Dark Earth. The Taurus website makes no mention of offering the guns in that color. Does anyone have any info on this?
Contact Taurus and ask them if they have updated followers to send you.
I saw FDE at Academy and I think that was for particular retailers.
So I found one more thing to complain about. On the left side of the slide, right above the “G2” engraving the rear left corner of the ejection port is sharp. I will be filing this down as the damn thing bit me as i was practicing some FTF/FTE slide re-racks. Could have easily drawn blood. Gun still functions flawlessly; just a fit and finish gripe. Everything I’ve complained about are minor issues. I paid $199 for this gun brand new and I bought a second one just to have. For the price it cannot be beat. These are nowhere close to the Jimenez, Hi-Point category of firearms at all. I cannot speak for every single Taurus ever made but the 3 I own are good reliable guns.
To say second strike is not a feature is rediculous. i won’t carry a CCW weapon that does not have second strike capability. I bet the author will change his mind quick if he survives an encounter where his non-dominant hand/arm is unavailable due to injury or being used to fend off an attacker and he only has is dominant hand to use which is on the pistol. You going to rack the slide for a new round then??? Not unless you are Houdini. I bet you’d be damn glad you had a second chance at firing that round. As far as the manual safety, if you don’t like one on a gun, here’s a newsflash….remove the safety lever, ball bearing and spring that makes up the manual safety assembly and now you have a non-manual safety glock style handgun. I have a lot of handguns at different price levels and i love this gun. I bought 2 of them for $199 each at palmetto state armory.
Think twice before ever buying a self defense firearm without second strike capability folks!
Thought I’d read up on the PT-111 G2. I currently have a 24/7C Titanium slide and carry it in a crossbreed horse hide IWB. Since the Titanium guns are getting scarce and the prices are climbing, I’m thinking of retiring the 24/7 and replacing it with something that fits in the same holster. That leaves me the 809, 111 or another 24/7. The price on the 111 G2 is lower than the others which is always a good thing. It has 12 rd mags instead of the 13/17 rds but that’s not much of a trade off. I went to Academy Sports today and test fitted the 111 G2 in my holster. It fits but slightly loose. Nothing a hair driyer and a little time shaping the ABS plastic holster won’t cure. Also the 12 round magazine does not work in the 24/7C. It’s a little pricey at Academy now, $364 I think it was. It’s available in many places for around $225 now. Academy is the only place I’ve seen it with a tan frame. Looks cool but not worth the extra money. Since it appears to have much more good reviews than bad, I think I’ll order one. I’ve had good results with Taurus warranty….although it’s always been handled by Academy for me. We’ll see! One more thing, about the manual safety. The 111 looks like it has a Glock style trigger and if that’s the case it will not hurt to just leave the safety off. I don’t see how it’s even an issue.
If you shop around these can be had for $200 new.
It’s a super deal.
With these at about $200 there is no reason for anyone to ever buy a Hi-Point.
Get the Shield 9mm. All the advantages of this one and it has a great trigger. First M&P to have a great trigger from the factory.
I got one today and it seems. Both mags. Rattle quite a bit a. Lot. Of sloppyness nyone else
FYI, Mecgar Sig P226 magazine functions flawlessly in the PT111 G2. I have range tested them and use an 18-round as a backup mag.
Palmetto state armory has them on sale for $200.
I just bought one from Palmetto for $200. I’ve seen them several places for that price recently but they sell out very fast (I wonder why?). This ranks right up there with some of the best deals I’ve ever got on any gun. Only one other gun was a better deal for me in fact. I have a PT-145, which is the .45 caliber sibling of this gun, and it has been completely reliable through 5000 rounds. It’s very accurate to 25 yards and has great ergonomics. I can’t find a single fault with it. I paid $320 for it and thought I got a steal. Now I have a 9mm version for a ridiculously low $200. I guess they sorta wore out the “Millennium” name given that the gun was designed to coincide with the turn of the century. It says a lot about the quality of this line that they’re still selling them 15 years past the Millennium date. I’ve had my PT145 for 12 years. I’m actually buying this for my wife to carry. She has trouble with a .45 but this should be great. The recoil on my .45 is a nice, straight back push which took me a while to learn to fire well because it doesn’t work well with an isosceles stance. But a slight bend of my elbow (to heck with the rules of the isosceles) and it became near recoil Nirvana. It really works well for follow up shots. I can only imagine how smooth the 9mm version will be. I can’t wait to find out.
I picked one up from Palmetto State Armory as well (for $200) and ran two hundred rounds through it. My impressions so far are this:
From the factory with 115gr ammo it shoots very low and left at 7 yards. Adjusted the rear sight to get on center, but the vertical adjustment rises to a peak and then goes back down when you turn the screw (not topping out and stopping).
I adjusted to max height and it still shot low with 115 gr. I had to place the top of front sight above the bullseye to get it on target. According to Taurus forums, switching to 124 gr ammo (or higher) should help with that.
No feed problems, second strike worked on one round that failed to fire on the first hammer strike. Trigger was fine, better than S&Ws I’ve shot (not as good as a Steyr or XDM).
The grip was good, and the pinkie extender on the mag allowed me a proper grip with all my fingers while still being small enough for concealed carry. Problem is, extra mags are $35, which is funny since the gun with two mags is $200 (is the rest of the gun only worth $130?).
The safety switch is light and flickable and a nice backup. Most of the other controls are human-sized (I can’t even reach the mag release on some HKs).
The only downside to the gun I have observed so far is its accuracy. It’s fine enough for its intended purpose (and 99% of DGUs), but it isn’t a tack driver. I’ve shot tighter groups at 25 yards with XDMs and Steyrs than I did with this thing at 7.
Granted, I’m comparing a $200 gun to $500-600 full-size guns with cold forged barrels, so it’s not quite apples to apples. Keeping price in mind, this is a good first gun for most shooters.
Bought my PT111 G2 at Whittikers Guns in Owensboro KY for $179. Have had feeding problems with the first couple of rounds from day one. FMJ and especially JHP’s. As long as I put up pressure on the mag when racking the slide it will not happen. Disappointed that I’m going to have to send it for repair with less than 200 rounds.
I also recently bought a PT111 G2. In the manual it states to half load each magazine and smack the bottom of the mags on your palm to help seat the spring and follower. It then states to continue loading both mags and leave them fully loaded for at least 48 hours. I did this, and then I also loaded and unloaded each mag about 10 times just to make sure that the springs went through a handful of compression cycles. At the range with 200+ rounds I had no issues. Also, I would only use quality American made ammo or good foreign ammo like Fiocchi or Sellier & Bellot. Avoid any type of TulAmmo, Sumbro, ZQ1, and other cheap foreign ammo. They always seem to give me problems and cartridge length is often out of spec.
Perhaps try these things, if you haven’t already, before contacting Taurus.
I did try letting the magazines sit for a couple of days and even opened the magazine lips a slight bit. However this did not work either. My Dad purchased a G2 the same day and his does perfect. His will feed Hornady critical defense all day. Mine gets caught on the feed ramp everytime. Sent it to Taurus and very disappointed that it will be 6 weeks. Probably will not buy a Taurus again. Maybe great guns but I feel a little burn on this one.
When inserting a new mag, I’ve had the first round of Hornady XTP sometimes catch on the feed ramp. It’s only the first round, though. When firing, everything after that cycles normally.
My solution is to top off the mag with one round of Winchester round-nose ammo. Bingo. No more feeding problems on new mags.
I ended up sending the gun to Taurus for repair. A bad extractor spring was the issue. Since the repair the gun has fed flawlessly through hundreds of rounds and I have total confidence to carry it daily. You shouldn’t have any problems feeding the first round and shouldn’t have to use a different round for the first feed.
Good tip for those with limited strength to use an empty magazine to lock the slide back! Thanks Harold
They have them at Palmetto State armory for $199.99
Got mine about a month ago on sale for $199.99. Traded in my 20 year old Astra for $75.00 and got it cheap. I use it as my carry weapon. Light and low profile. Good to know it will fire cheaper steel ammo.
I haven’t had a problem with any ammo with this gun until today. I ran Winchester 124 grain Nato (not Luger) ammo through it and encountered some hard primers. They wouldn’t fire even with a second hamer strike. I had to run them through my XDM.
YMMV
I got this gun recently. It is a great little gun. Some one mentioned that you can use sig p226 magazines. Well you can also use Canik TP9 V1 in this Taurus. I tried it at the range and it works. The only issue is that it does not hold open on last round. Since the tp9 sa and tp9 V2 magazines are backward compatible they should also work in the PT111 G2.
Now I am curous if the Sig P226 mags will works in the TP9. Based on the pictures of the magazines I think there is a chance the larger mags work.
I have a G2 in 9mm and I’m very happy with her. She has a sexy stainless steel slide. She’s easy to grip. Recoil is relatively light. Nice sights. Great grouping. Rapid fire is slick (this was done with Hornaday Critical Defense rounds) and groupings were tighter than I imagined they would be. She hates Blazer ammo, but everything else she’s eaten up like a little piggy. Easy to take down and clean. I like the safety. Trigger is Glock-like but with a long pull. Once it breaks, it’s very light and crisp and the reset is really short. Like I said…I’m happy with her.
I own 4 of these guns both calibers and colors so needless to say I enjoy and trust them. But unlike reported in this review the magazines have a slight rattle when loaded and in the well. As they are for the car and night stand that flaw is easily looked past for it’s other qualities.
I purchased the PT 1111 Millenium G2 on 11/30/2015. I took it to the range on 12/5/2015. I was ONLY able to get through ONE magazine before the slide would no longer close with a magazine that has ammo, but the slide closes fine when empty. These are the two magazines that came with the gun.
This POS is worthless and unsafe in my opinion. I am sending it in for repair and then selling it immediately and purchasing the Smith and Wesson M and P Shield 9mm sub-compact even though the price is $150 more. The gun may carry 12 rounds instead of 6 like the M and P Shield, but if it does not work when you need it you are dead.
NEVER purchase this gun.
KJ
I’m sorry for KJ’s experience with the G2. He never said if he handed it to someone else to load and rack the slide. That’s what I would’ve done just to be sure it wasn’t my own “operator error”. But he’s probably an experienced gun owner and his review is what it is.
My PT-111 G2, which I’ve had for 8 months is a great gun. No problems whatsover. I like the ergo, the non-snappy manageable recoil, and it shoots my reloads just fine. And don’t forget the trigger. I just checked the trigger pull and it is @ 5.25 lbs. This is a stock gun with no “trigger job”. Keep up the good work Taurus!
I purchased my PT 111 G2 on Dec. 10th, took it out to shoot on the 13th, and after 26 rnds the trigger safety snapped off. I sent it back for repairs and they are still waiting on the part 5 weeks later. Extremely disappointed at this point.
Same thing happened to me with less than 200 rounds. Was letting students shoot it during a CCL course I was teaching and been bragging on Taurus when it broke. Sent to Taurus and between 7-8 weeks and not fixed yet.
Using Glocks and Sigs in CCL class now.
My PT111 G2 has been completely reliable and is now my carry. When these go on sale, I don’t hesitate at all to recommend them to friends and family for the great value they provide. Taurus has a great product here at a great price point.
I own this wonderful peace of beauty. I got it straight from the factory as my job works with Taurus so we get employee discounts and I got this just under $200. I still think it’s totally worth the msrp and love firing rapid fire with it. I normally shoot from about 30 yards and it’s very accurate from factory. I belive 12 rounds are enough and I run 115 grain Winchester fmj. Very easy to clean, I served in the Marines so I’m pretty big on cleaning my firearms. I totally recommend this as a carry weapon as it fits perfectly in my and is easy to conceal.
My first gun was a Taurus revolver in 1979. It was a wonderful gun. I have had a few since. I had a model 92, great gun. A TCP 738 ( the cheap one ) . Sucked. A PT 740. Fair. A stainless model 94. SUCKED !. I have found over time as many have that Taurus has ups and downs when building hand guns. I purchased the PT 111 G2 last month and took it to the range for the first time yesterday. I can honestly say , I love this little pistol. All I had to do was make a small adjustment to the sights ( I am south paw ) and I was spot one every time I tried 3 typed of ammo, 7 year old gold dot. Blazer FMJ and some old Winchester ammo that none of my guns liked. I had zero failures. It ran as consistent as an old singer sewing machine I have to say other than the distance to the moon take up on the trigger and a stiff release I really like this gun. I have no issues with trusting my life to this weapon. I believe I will hang on to this one for a while.
This gun looks and feels great. I really want to love it and carry it. However, this thing will not sight in as a carry gun. This shoots low and left after adjusting the sights several times out at the range. I am done with this gun!
I bought 2 of the PT 111 G2s on Gunbroker. Paid $201 for one and $210 for the other. I’ve only shot one of them but it reliably ate everything I fed it from 115 grain ball to 147 grain HPs. I’m not a Taurus fanboy per say, although I own 7 of them (I own a lot of handguns and have a Taurus section, Ruger section, Glock section, ect). I’m now using the G2 as my primary carry weapon. I think it’s about the smallest double stack 9mm you’re going to find. I use a fobus holster and just let my tee shirt hang over it. Virginia is an open carry state so if the bottom inch or two is visible it’s not a big deal. Listing the perks…loaded chamber indicator, second strike capability, extra magazine supplied, Glock style safe action trigger, picatinny rail, and adjustable sights.
Great trigger video. Has the gun ever had any problems?
I bought my g2 9mm about 3 months ago and do to illness havent had much time with her.How ever I have fired it about 25 times and today took it back to my dealer for the second time for hanging up after about 3 rounds.I am disapointed but my dealer was on the phone with taurus before I left the and they will be sending it back to the company.They are requesting a replacement not just a fix.I will let you no how things work out.For now I am back to carring mt old LLama max 1 in 45acp. 1911 clone.
Hi, I am back with good news about my G2 111 which I had to send back to the company. Well the turn around time was only 10 days which I think is pretty good compared to some reviews here were it took weeks.Now to head to the range to put her to work. I will let you no how she works this time.
Well im back and i am very ticked off with my G2 taurus and after 36 rounds at the range it hung up for the third time. the G2 111 is not going back on my hip,If I cant be completely sure it will work every time I cant trust it to protect my family or myself. that being said anyone have a good gun to buy in 9mm that is easy to carry and easy to shoot.I am disabled and need to cover my butt and my wife as she is also disabled.So any ideas that would make a great carry gun that is affordable. Thankyou for any advice you may have.
Hi ,I am back once again seeking advice on a good relible carry gun. I am looking for a 9mm easy to clean any nice to work with. My wife and I are both disabled and in a recent we live in the 5th worse place to live in Mi. do to looseing all of our factorys . Any ideas would be great.I have a TAURUS G 2 111 That has now had problems with hang ups.after 2 times we sent it back to the company just got it back and it hung up again.A Taurus is out of the question.I have no faith in this company.A carry gun must fire first time everytime all the time.I would like to replace it with someting afordable and reliable. Any advice would be greatly thankful !
The Ruger LC9 might be a good alternative. It’s not a double stack, but that also means it’s a little easier to conceal. On sale today at Palmetto State Armory (online). I think I got an email from them this morning advertising for $349.
After a brand new Taurus was sent back to the factory twice, and still has issues, I think I’d be asking for a new replacement gun.
Reviews on the PT 111 – G2, have mostly been stellar and ratings have generally been far above most other new plastic guns.
I got mine from Palmetto on line for $199.99
Dont mean to quibble, but you list weight at 23 oz. Manual says 20.8. While website says 22 oz. I called taurususa, girl on other end says manual should be correct. Your experience?
who’s listing weight as 23 oz?
What WEBSITE says 22 oz?
I’d believe the manual at 20.8, but that might be without a Mag installed.
The empty mag is probably another couple ounces, so, whoever is saying 23 oz, is probably with an EMPTY mag installed.
Taurususa.com is the website. 22 oz stated clearly. Their own website contradicts their own manual. Elementary error.
(Dec 2016) Just purchased one and ran 150 rounds thru it with no issues using various ammo (fmj 124, 147 jhp, 124 jhp, 115 jhp+p). Trigger works for me – some folks don’t like it. It’s not a nail tacker – but I can safely hit the vitals within 15 yards (good enough for a defensive situation). IMHO It is the “Best bang for the buck” at $239 brand new! Add Lakeline LLC night sights (lamps made by Trijicon) and you got a low budget, quality yet reliable EDC pistol. This will take the place of my expensive HK P30sk which I will save for fun time at the range.
In response to Marty Luther:
When you say “hang up” what exactly do you mean? My guess is failure-to-feed. If this is the case, what ammo are you shooting when the hang-ups occur? Certain hollow points with very flat faces may have issues feeding in this gun due to the short, steep feed ramp. The first thing I do to any compact/sub-compact semi auto is polish the feed ramp. This is a general issue with most small frame semi-auto pistols when firing certain hollow points. If you still have the pistol, have your gunsmith do a good polish job on the feed ramp. This may help solve any failure to feed issues you may have.
Most people don’t do long-term tests, so here is a small update of my experience with my PT111 G2.
First recoil spring assembly (RSA) failed at 1,000 rounds. Got a replacement from Taurus within a week of my call. The new RSA failed after 500 rounds. Taurus is currently out of stock of that particular item. The engineers in Miami are aware of the shortcoming. They don’t officially recommend any aftermarket parts, but unofficially mentioned parts from Lakeline that are thicker ($30). Lakeline also sells night sights.
I purchased a new Taurus PT111 G2 a couple of days ago for $209.00 including tax. They are being advertised locally as being on sale for $199. I wanted to replace a Glock 26 that I had to sell, money being tight at the moment. Without range time yet and the opportunity for failures to surface, there are a few observations I have that are the result of having owned and fired a number of different pistols. First, this is a slim pistol. It is significantly slimmer than the Glock. It’s also well made. By that I mean it isn’t sloppy. In this price range, only the Hi-Point is available in 9mm. This is no Hi-Point, which has its fans, but is closer to most polymer pistols costing much more. I’m not going to say that this is equal to or better than a Glock, but the features include a safety. I don’t have to have a safety, but I want that option. Glocks don’t have anything more than a Safe Action System. That means no safety. It’s 12 round magazine is a plus over the 10 of the 26. I’m retired on a fixed income. Spending the money on a higher priced pistol isn’t the option it once was. I’m ready to work with the Taurus PT111 G2 with the intent of making it a carry pistol. The reviews haven’t discouraged me, neither has the pistol itself in my hands. I’m an older, experienced shooter. This pistol seems to have the right DNA.
This new pistol will surprise you, just as it has with all my friends who own Beretta’s, Glock’s & SD’s.
Enjoy
So the dude whose job is to ask to see your papers when you are walking in the woods with a weapon was upset that he was treated like everyone else? And people are upset that a Game Warden wasn’t treated with the proper respect due a police officer. It isn’t like he’s going to stop a crime in progress, unless it is hunting or fishing without a license. All I care is that the restaurant and the holding company is anti-gun, I know about it, and can make decisions based on that knowledge.
So much hypocrisy it makes me sick. Ive literally had people yell me how bad hunting is while eating a burger. You just cant win with these people. Im a pussy if i hunt with a gun but youre unethical and cruel if you hunt with a spear or knife. To me It seems like a spear would be more humane than a bow. Look at the size of that broad head.
Grieving Teens Commiserate After M.S.D. Shooting
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Somewhere in the Northwest United States, Yankee Marshall frantically records a video debunking these findings by using false equivalencies and circular reasoning.
In three months he will then will go on to change his carry piece to something other than .357 and explain why everyone is an idiot and he has made the best decision (he might even cite this video as to why).
Since when does an elitist shoot a s&w or Springfield? ????
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