Gun Review: FIE Titan .25 ACP Pistol

By Brendan Nadeau

There are some guns that gun lovers pine for; a Wilson Combat 1911, a Colt Python revolver, a highly tuned M1 Garand…maybe even a SIG Legion P229? There are also guns that are workhorses; an M&P15 Sport, a boring, yet reliable GLOCK 17, a Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Then there are the guns that are made for the people with little money; the oft mocked, yet hefty Hi-Point pistols and carbines, a cosmoline-caked Mosin-Nagant, a Bersa Thunder.

Then there’s this gun:

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This is a Firearms Import Export (FIE) Titan, an import from Italy made from Tanfoglio GT27 parts and slapped onto Zamak frames by FIE in Florida after the Gun Control Act of 1968 limited the import of compact pistols. A classic “Saturday night special,” this gun is cheap and concealable, though it’s been out of production for some time now. My interest was sparked in this gun after watching a review done by Scootch00, and I put it on my “to pick up” list in case I ran across one sometime down the road.

I finally found one at a gun show for about $100 and didn’t even have to pay sales tax as the vendor was relieved to see that I actually had a concealed carry license. After handing over some twenties, I slipped it into my pocket and was good to go.

After taking it home, I had a better opportunity to examine the little pistol more closely. This gun has apparently had an interesting life. There’s a bit of wear on the gun, probably from being taken in and out of holsters and/or being thrown at attackers after the .25 ACP rounds failed to stop them (just kidding about the last part…maybe).

Overall though, the little gun was in pretty decent shape, and I headed to the range to test it out.

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Over the course of owning this particular firearm, I’ve run about 200 plus rounds through it, mostly Remington UMC, since I can really only find that or Aguila brand in my local Academy store. The .25 ACP round isn’t exactly the greatest self-defense round, and might only piss off an attacker even more after you’ve unloaded all seven rounds into him. They might bleed out later, but probably not before they’ve killed you first.

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.25 ACP second from left

However, people also knock the .22 LR for being useless for killing things, yet there are strangely empty lines for people willing to be shot by these “weak” calibers. .25 ACP rounds are also made in JHPs as well, but from my research, it’s probably better to have full FMJs for adequate penetration. Oh, and .25 isn’t much easier to find in stock than any other handgun round these days.

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The trigger on this little gun isn’t as bad as you would think. The blocky, single action trigger takes up pretty well, with kind of a mushy break at the end when you fire the gun. Firing the Titan is OK, though it’s nothing like shooting a 1911, a Browning Hi-Power or even a GLOCK for that matter. I could see a person with larger hands getting slide bite, due to the fact that it’s so small, but I didn’t suffer that fate.

I shot the gun at one of my local ranges from about 10 feet away — personal defense distance. This is probably stretching the range of the Titan a little bit, as the small 2.5-inch barrel doesn’t provide much in terms of accuracy. Even then, the gun did pretty well; of the first twelve rounds sent toward the target I managed to get seven of them inside the ten ring.

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Not exactly the best shooter out there, but then again, this is a very up-close-and-personal weapon. I had a problem loading the single stack magazine once as one of the rounds dipped down and refused to align properly. It took some fussing with the round and finally managed to get it seated. Being more careful prevented a repeat. Other than that, I surprisingly did not have any issues firing the gun.

The Titan has sights…and that’s about it. Consisting of a simple blade in the front and a U-notch in the back, this pistol isn’t meant for running in IDPA matches. I’m surprised it even has sights given the Titan’s intended use.

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Disassembly and cleaning is simple: remove magazine, flip the safety to safe, pull back on slide, lift up, remove slide and recoil spring, and that’s it. Hit it with some Ballistol and you’re good to go again.

For being a cheap gun, the Titan is at least simple and easy to maintain. That’s probably my second favorite thing about this gun, as there are few things that can possibly get lost in the process of cleaning it.

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Which brings me to my favorite part of this gun; it’s concealable to a fault. The Titan is smaller than most mobile phones on the market today, and pocket carry is so easy with this particular firearm that you can forget at times that you have it on your person. It would make for a good backup or “deep concealment” type of weapon if you’re going that route, though there are plenty of other options out there now that offer just as good concealment and in a much more effective caliber.

I’ve heard that carrying the Titan with a round chambered is a bad idea, even if the safety is on. There are small holsters out for it, though from a quick Google search, options are sparse. You can get different types of grips for the Titan as well, but considering that this is basically a Saturday night special, customizing options are limited.

Overall, this gun might be good for concealed carry, if you’re willing to put your life on the line with a really small .25 ACP pistol that might only aggravate an aggressor. However, despite me ribbing it a little bit, this is a fun little gun to shoot. I just wouldn’t (wholly) trust this gun in a defensive gun use situation, as the anemic cartridge and limited accuracy make it a backup weapon at most, and an expensive paperweight as worst.

Specifications: FIE Titan

Caliber: .25 ACP (6.35 Browning)
Capacity: 7+1
Barrel Length: 2.48in
Overall Length: 4.72 in
Weight: 0.77 lbs
Price: Blue Book puts it about $77 dollars

Ratings (out of five stars):

Style: * * *
I suppose it looks cool enough. Better aesthetics than a Hi-Point, that’s for sure.

Ergonomics (carry) * * * * *
You can definitely hide this thing away in a pocket holster, or anywhere else a tiny gun will fit.

Ergonomics (shooting): * * *
It’s a small pistol that fires a weak, underpowered cartridge. You can shoot it for awhile, but its compact nature does kind of grind after some time.

Reliability: * * * *
Surprisingly, despite one malfunction in loading the firearm, this gun has gone bang every single time I’ve shot the pistol.

Customization: *
You can change out the grips, and that’s about it. Maybe a spare magazine as well (they’re scarce, but you can find then on Gunbroker). The Titan was offered in other finishes, but why bother?

Overall: * * *
I was surprised to find that this gun works and works pretty well. It’s even strangely kind of fun to shoot. It’s a perfectly serviceable, reliable pocket gun. Just don’t expect too much stopping power from .25 ACP.

comments

  1. avatar Captain O says:

    I have two of the little pistols one works consistently, and the second one has trigger reset problems. I like the little pistols and wouldn’t hesitate to drop one in my jacket pocket when I take out the trash. I can empty the pistol’s magazine in a heartbeat, and have a group just like the one shown on the author’s target.

    I prefer my Chezh. single-action in .32 acp. I prefer it over any .380 acp because I can consistently hit my target at “bad breath” distances. The little .32 rod in a European cop’s holster for many years. I couldn’t give a moon and six pence less about “obsolesence”. The little .32 does a darned fine job. I can group the little .312″ 73-grain Fiocchi FMJ bullets precisely where I want. Penetration is more than ample and I can almost guarantee that I’ll walk away from the encounter alive. That’s what counts.

    Jon Moses Browning was no fool.

    1. avatar TheBerean says:

      What is the best “pocket carry” for self defense. Price is not an issue.

  2. avatar Art out West says:

    I remember seeing these for sale at the local Bi-Mart for around $60 back when I was a kid (1980s). At the time, I thought they looked cool.

    It would be nice to see a size comparison photo with something more common (LCP, Beretta Bobcat, or J-frame).

    The little .25acp pistols seem to have disappeared since the micro .380s came on line (P3AT, LCP, TCP, etc.)

  3. avatar possum says:

    I’ve got a gt26, push button mag release. It’s got a magazine disconnector that I’ve yet to modify, the feed lips get bent easy and not much rifling in the barrel, but it fits in a pocket and is a good “surprise” I’ve got a gunm gunm. ,,,,, Story time. I used to shoot with a friend, he was something else, fast , accurate and always beat me. One day I strapped on the RSBH with ten inch barrel, I told Don,” hey I bet I can get a shot off faster then you, I get to say go.” Alright,,,,go-Blam, beat him because I shot the twenty five through my pocket, “Surprise”

    1. avatar possum says:

      Ps. I wouldn’t sale the one I’ve got for less then $150. And right now with everyone wanting a gunm I just might hold out for more

      1. avatar ABN LRRP RGR 3 tours RVN says:

        Laughing at all the comments, my mom passed away several years ago, 25 to be exact, and left me a couple of pistols, one just so happens to be the exact pistol everyone is talking about, the FIE Titan .25 ACP Pistol. I just opened one of my ammo cans and in it ….. is the gun still in the little blue Titan box it came in with the original two little bright orange stickers from K-Mart , one with the price of $31.47, the other dated 3-17-89 along with all the papers and manual literature still in the box with the gun just like new when she bought it. She had a couple of other type of “little crackers” she always carried, one in her bowling bag, and another we found and thought was there, in her golf bag still attached to her pull cart. LMAO just thinking about it!

  4. avatar The Rookie says:

    Love these old mouseguns. Definitely from another era, but still cool as heck.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      I used to love to play with these little pistols back in the day. My Titan was reliable. Can’t say the same for Ravens, Jennings, Sterlings etc.

      They were just fun toys.

      1. avatar daveinwyo says:

        Have a Sterling in .22 LR.
        Shoots every time I pull the trigger.
        Could use a new mag for it, one has a cracked off piece of mag butt piece.
        Any way to tighten up the safety?
        Sometimes will work it’s way fo fire/off position.

        1. anyone needing a magazine for an old gun should check out triple k. they have alot of mags for these old guns. I have some for my berreta m71 in 22lr and they work fine.

  5. avatar Dog of War says:

    Heh. My late step father used to have one of those. He never allowed me to shoot it though. He was surprising anti-gun for a gun owner. No idea where it went after he died. :/

  6. avatar GS650G says:

    I’ve got a Browning clone that I’ve fired once. Definitely not one of his better ideas, if it was rim fire it would be a hit. Still would not want to be shot with a 25.

    1. avatar Tex Patriot says:

      The Baby Browning was a huge hit. Wish I could buy a new one now.

  7. avatar Specialist38 says:

    I dont think those are holster marks. Most of these were dump into a pocket.

    These are not great pistols. Not really even good. May be better than a Raven.

    Imhave own many 25s, most stunk .

    Bauer (copy of Browning Baby) looked great but was terribly inaccurate and unreliable.

    The Colt Junior (Astra Cub) was nicely finished and pretty reliable. Had a mag release like the Beretta.

    The Sterling looked great and felt good (Galesi copy), but I never shot one that was remotely reliable.

    But these European-style single actions were small and flat and better materials than the Raven – a blocky POS that you couldnt dry fire for fear of breaking the firing pin.

    The Colt Mustang Pocketlite and the Grendel 380 gave 380 power in a slightly smaller package.

    The gun we were waiting for was a Ruger . Plus a good pocket holster.

    1. avatar Specialist38 says:

      Slightly larger package.

      1. avatar Jake the snake says:

        I have 3 Astra cubs, several micro berettas, a baby browning and a steel frame AG from Italy that shoots really well. The worst part is that i don’t have a .25 addiction, its more like they find me . By far ,my favorite would have to be my .22 Beretta 21A. It usually rides in my front right pocket as my backup gun.

        1. avatar Specialist38 says:

          The Beretta 950 was my favorite for a long time. (I am a Beretta fanboy when it comes to styling)

          9 total rounds….very light and very accurate …if you can see the sights.

          If I had to carry a 25 now, I would look for a new stainless Bobcat. I have only seen a couple in the wild. Most are 22s.

          Mainly, they are fun guns to shoot and look at. Long live the LCP.

  8. avatar former water walker says:

    But is better than a Jimenez?!?😀😃😏

    1. avatar Specialist38 says:

      Almost anything is………

      1. avatar Bill Hutchison says:

        Depends on how many feet per second you can throw the Jimenez at.

        1. avatar Specialist38 says:

          Ha!

    2. avatar Ncle Joe says:

      Can I have a stick instead of a Jimenez?

      I wonder how many gang members died with a jammed Jimenez in their pocket.

  9. avatar Iron Cat Beast says:

    The only two unfilled niches left in the collection are a good 12-gauge coach gun and a nice little mouse gun. I’ll probably spring for a .22cal over a .25 because neither would be my go-to for carrying anyway, but it’d be cheaper to feed when it’s time to go out and make some Coke cans suffer.

  10. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

    I worked a few shootings that involved a .25 ACP. The most impressive one was when the shooter “zipped up” the victim. First round just above the belt buckle. 7th round just under the chin. Victim was sucking wind when I was 97. Shooter had slipped into the neither world of illegal aliens. Never solved. And really, who cares?

    1. avatar possum says:

      “was sucking wind when I was 97” How old are you now?

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Possum, sorry. Slipped into the vernacular. 10-97 is code for “arrived at the scene.” We shortened it to 97. Time was often short and we were bailing out of a patrol car. “Dispatch, 97.”

        1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          BTW, I would have been about 30-35 y.o.a. Full of piss and vinegar. Hadn’t taken to heart what Capt. F. told me when he handed me the keys to my patrol car. He said, “Don’t get in a hurry to get to a knife fight, or any other bullshit. If you get there and it’s still going on everyone is going to look at you and expect you to do something about it. You’ll just get cut or shot. Take your time. Circle the block. If you’re lucky it’ll be over when you get there. If you’re really lucky everybody will be gone. Unless it’s an innocent victim. Then you get there 10-18 and kill the motherfucker.” Capt. F. was old school. Skinny as a straw. Looked like somebody made him out of old leather. If you think I have a Southern drawl you should have heard him. On two different occasions he told a man he would kill them. They didn’t believe him. After he finished working with that 4″ nickel model 19 they would have. If they had still been alive. The Capt. would have shown what to do about ANTIFA. I wept the day he died.

        2. avatar gus says:

          indeed. I knew some old WWII vets that would have machine gunned them. undoubtedly. if asked that would have been their response.

        3. avatar gus says:

          * about ANTIFA

    2. avatar Specialist38 says:

      My thoughts were echoed by Massad Ayoob.

      Consider the full load in a mouse gun to be “one ahot”.

      9 shots of 25 at 3 feet (or less) would probably spoil your whole week.

  11. avatar sound awake says:

    “Oh, and .25 isn’t much easier to find in stock than any other handgun round these days.”
    its literally in stock at dozens and dozens of online stores:
    https://ammoseek.com/ammo/25acp
    its more available in fact than 10mm 5.7×28 .380 and .38 special

  12. avatar Rokurota says:

    My dad gave me a Raven .25 he thought was broken. Nope. The trigger is just so bad, you had to pull it all the way, then give it another 10 lbs., then BANG. Useless as a defensive tool unless the bad guy was right on top of you. My dad gave it to a friend and bought a Hi-Point. Always had impeccable taste.

  13. avatar Jim Warren says:

    Wouldn’t be my first choice but I do know of one 240lb bodybuilder who got dropped with a single chest shot.. DRT. Just sat down and expired.

    1. avatar De Facto says:

      I have often thought that .25 ACP and .32 ACP need to be revamped for the modern era. Increase the length and brass thickness, bump the PSI up to 10mm levels and run with it.

      I’d like to see a .32 Auto-Magnum; Take the .327 Fed Mag, remove the rim and you’re in business. Think how many of those you could fit into a modern subcompact.. and I doubt you’d have any volunteers to stand in front of it either!

      1. avatar gus says:

        too long. that would make the grip too big. have to bottleneck it, probably like a 9mm necked down to .327 and you could use it in a petite single stack like LCP (should have less recoil than 9mm, if not, more like a Glock G42/43) and a larger double stack configuration too.

        that would be better than the.32NAA, which is a .380 necked down to.32

        the big problem is any high velocity cartridge needs barrel length to develop velocity. 3″ would be cutting it short. 3-1/2″ bare minimum. 4″ shows its true potential, which is what you have with the.357 SIG. I suppose you could have the 3.5″ in the single stack pocket pistol and the 4″ in the double stack compact. so the pocket pistol would have a longish barrel. instead of 3.2″

        1. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

          Reinvent the 7.65 parabellum?

        2. avatar gus says:

          no, but you could call it a modern incarnation of the 7.65×21 Parabellum. (.30 Luger) it’s .30 cal and uses .309 bullets. at 93 grains and 1200 ft/s out of a full length pistol barrel that’s too weak. even if you could, a 93 grain bullet is too light coming out of a short handgun barrel. you simply won’t get enough velocity to make it worthwhile. being engineered for black powder you couldn’t just plop in smokeless powder and have 35-40k PSI it would blow up. same reason .45 Super and .45 Rowland have beefed up cases compared to .45ACP.

          the other reason for necking down a 9mm and using a .32 bullet instead of redesigning the .30 Luger with smokeless powder, is to use modern .32 JHP bullets like what we have in the .32 H&R Magnum and .327 Federal Magnum. I’m not aware of such bullets in .30 caliber.

          that, and the availability of 9mm brass.

          I would predict this sort of performance out of a 3-1/2″ barrel:

          100 grain, 1470 ft/s, KE=480, PF=147
          115 grain, 1280 ft/s, KE=418, PF= 147

          compare to .327 Mag Speer Gold Dot out of a 3-1/2″ barrel:
          115 grain, 1380 ft/s, KE=486, PF= 159

          compare to 9mm CorBon +P out of a 3-1/2″ barrel:
          115 grain, 1280 ft/s, KE=418, PF=147

          .327 Magnum is better, but this compares favorably. should be equivalent to 9mm +P but since it’s .32 caliber instead of .355, the 115 grain will penetrate a little better, and the 100 grain penetrate a lot better.

  14. avatar Larry says:

    The last cop killed on duty here ,a few years back ,was from a single .25 round .

    1. avatar possum says:

      Had a friend commit suicide with one, shot himself in the head, lived two days. Had another friend commit suicide with a shotgunm ( in front of the cop shop), Cops working the scene bitched about the mess. Heard one cop say, “I wish these people wouldn’t use a shotgunm.” But the best of the mess was a guy killed himself by drinking Liquid Drano, literally was pucking his guts up, what away to go, We all figured he’d would have offed himself with a gunm because he was a collector and had lotsa gunms

      1. avatar De Facto says:

        He probably chose the method that wouldn’t have people villifying his collection as the cause. I am both saddened and impressed. I wish he had found a less painful way to die. I hope he found the peace in death he could not find in life.

      2. avatar Ron says:

        The drano thing is strange, almost like a meme.

        I’ve read about it happening around the country as a method of suicide but I don’t get why. It’s definitely one of the most painful and disturbing ways to go.

        If people are trying to go for shock, I’d get it, but I don’t think that’s what it is, because there are more shocking ways to go that aren’t nearly as painful.

  15. avatar Hannibal says:

    A gun is better than no gun and will suffice for most people who carry one and most defensive situations (most of which probably are resolved without ever firing).

    But if you’ve got better options…

  16. avatar enuf says:

    Love old cheapies. Don’t want to carry one but when I was young and had little money it was the sort of thing I could afford to put in my pocket. After that, well it’s just fun to take them out plinking!

  17. avatar MyName says:

    Surprised to see this review today especially since, just yesterday, I was at the range and an old-timer in the lane next to me had exactly this gun. He was having a little trouble getting it to consistently go into battery so I gave him a hand and a little oil. That, at least, got him to the end of the box of ammo he brought.

    His groups were pretty ugly but, I don’t know how much of that was the gun and how much was the toil age takes on the sharpness of one’s eyes and steadiness of one’s hands. My eyes are already getting weaker and I’m sure I’ll find out how deep that rabbit hole goes in another 25 or 30 years.

    1. avatar gus says:

      I found one of these laying around once. took it home to mess with it. like that guy’s, it had problems going into battery. I think it was because the recoil spring was all squirrely and bent up. chucked it in the nearest dumpster. wish I wouldn’t have, should have kept it.

  18. avatar Virgil Caldwell says:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/concealed-weapon-sentence-652913

    Good job on this review.

    Funny the Titan is in the news twice this week

  19. avatar Roger J says:

    I have a .22 Walther TPH that I carried for years here in S FL. My LE experience lead me to believe the .22 was a better round than the .25. In reality it was just a way to tag whoever did me great bodily harm but at least I gave the cops a lead. I carry a 9 now as things have changed.

  20. avatar Elmer Fudd says:

    The. 25″ ACP might have a reputation as a cartridge for mouse pistols. However; John Moses Browning himself designed pistols for this cartridge. Browning understood the intended purpose of a close range, defensive pistol:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_M1905

    A very similar . 25 ACP pistol saved a train Ladd of Jews from the gas chambers.

    Personally; I would choose a Baretta Tomcat in . 32 ACP for a pocket pistol.

    1. avatar Torn says:

      Have you ever fired Beretta Tomcat .32? Recently worked on one for a friend, of course function checked it when I was done, Holy Crap Batman! Thing kicked like a damn mule, I’ve got a commander sized .45 that’s more pleasant to shoot. It did on the other hand run a full magazine. I also have a Kel-Tec .32 thats a pussycat to shoot, it however is a locked breech as opposed to the Beretta

  21. avatar Cooter E Lee says:

    Not everything has to be justified for self defense, sometimes things are interesting. I Just spent $200 on a estate sale of gun things I mostly have no use for, but I’ve learned a lot.

    in the lot was a calico 100 spiral drum which pretty interesting though I don’t have the pistol or carbine it goes to.

    1. avatar Torn says:

      The mag for that Calico is valuable, do some research on it.

  22. avatar skiff says:

    I recall putting an evidence tag on this model gun during a trial when I was Clerk of the Court.

  23. avatar K D says:

    Be advised that the bullets can bounce out of the target and hit you. I am not kidding.

  24. avatar Grim Reaper says:

    Love a review on such guns that are unknown to most people; I have many guns like that but never thought I would see a review on a FIE Titan .25 ACP Pistol. How about some expert write a review on a Makarov and all of the variations of Makarovs and stories about them. A Makarov seems to be the hardest gun to find now. Having one why would you ever sell it? I have had several of them over the years and am determined to get another one. Will really have to pay up for this one. The East German mades are way out of reach now as too much $s needed. There’s the Bulgarian and the Russian made that will have to do.

  25. avatar Montana Actual says:

    TTAG would benefit from reviewing companies pushing AR uppers and lowers for the newbs. People buying up PSA crap not having any idea what they are buying. Most people who buy from those companies have no idea what MPI is, or the difference between a chrome lined bore/barrel and not. They just see “cheap”. Show them the difference.

    1. avatar Torn says:

      Got news for you, PSA are fine. They aren’t going to run with the $3000 guns but they aren’t intended to. The work just fine for what they are intended to do, which is occasional plinking, Staying in your safe for when you really need a rifle, or the occasional hunting foray. I have one and it runs just fine, that 62 gr. I popped the Hog with didn’t seem to care which rifle I shot him with.

  26. avatar Ralph says:

    A tiny mouse gun named “Titan.” Ya gotta love the irony of it.

  27. avatar TickTalk says:

    The Pheonix hp25 is still in production. It also is a bastard child of tanfoglio.. well, of the raven mp25 which was a copy.. etc..
    I know.. pheonix, raven, jimenez,et all.. rof pos.. Phoenix is still around because it was the best of the worst, after the raven guy burned his shop down and sold the plans to his ex wife, who started pheonix.. fire, rebuild.. pheonix.. get it?
    Anyway, buy it, shoot it, break it, they will fix it…. over and over..

  28. avatar Phil Wilson says:

    “I finally found one at a gun show for about $100 and didn’t even have to pay sales tax as the vendor was relieved to see that I actually had a concealed carry license. After handing over some twenties, I slipped it into my pocket and was good to go.”

    Let’s play “journalist.”

    “I finally found one at a gun show for about $100 and didn’t even have to pay sales tax…. After handing over some twenties, I slipped it into my pocket and was good to go.”

  29. avatar Russel says:

    I carried one of these for 14 years in my hip pocket as a back up gun when I was a Police Officer. Unlike the author I found the Titan fairly accurate at reasonable distances. The first one I bought cost me $27.50. I loaned it to someone years ago and never got it back. Wish I still had one.

  30. avatar Randy says:

    Top quality version here would be the Seecamp, either in .25 or .32 acp. I have the .32 version for a collector/carry piece.

  31. avatar Jim Carbonnow says:

    Brendan Nadeau: The quintessential effete gun snob.

  32. avatar Supermatic57 says:

    I bought aBeretta tip up barrel .25 for my wife around 20 years ago as she’s 5’0” tall and has really small hands. Before the days of legal Illinois concealed carry I put it in my pocket for a couple of weeks starting the day after 9/11. Also have a Mauser model 1910 I inherited from my father in law who brought it back after WWII; had my local gunsmith go through it and it’s accurate and goes bang every time. Wouldn’t want to be shot with either one!

    1. avatar Matt Dessecker says:

      I still have my Titan 25. I can keep it at hand size groups at 20-25 feet, but that’s about as good as I can get it. I bought it used at a local gun shop back in the late 80s/early 90s for around $70, if I remember correctly. It used to stove pipe on the last round almost every time, but since using FrogLube, I ran a couple boxes of ammo through it without a hiccup.

  33. avatar Slim says:

    I have a nickle plated model that I carry on the beach in pocket of my swimming suit. I have had it so long, I don’t even remember when or where I bought it. I think I paid $39.95 for it new.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      That’s what I paid for a new Raven in the day. I think I paid 20-25 dollars for my used Titan. I bought a used RG .22 revolver for about 20 bucks. All 3 on the same day. One at a store and the other 2 from a guy at work.

  34. avatar Idaho Boy says:

    There are so many better inexpensive pistols out there that can also disappear into a pocket that I would never consider buying this thing, let alone carrying it. But I can see why folks might wax nostalgic over something like this.

  35. avatar Paul Franklin says:

    I’ve owned and carried one for over 30 years .Bought bnib for 50 It shoots well !

  36. avatar Grumpy 49 says:

    Own a .25 RAVEN, and agree that the new crop of pocket pistols are a leap ahead of the 70’s & 80’s models. However, in those days, there was no CCW permits, and any gun you used would be taken by the Police, and never returned. A .25 Raven at ~$39 apiece was a lot better to have the Police destroy than your S&W or Colt.

    P.S. – There were three Ravens purchased by members of my family, and all three could dump a full magazine into a ~6″ balloon at 35 – 50 feet. Head shots???

  37. avatar Dave MacFadyen says:

    Nice review, Brendan; and I would not dismiss the .25 out of hand. Back when I lived in Florida, I was hunting hogs, and shot a nice 160-pound hog with my .308 rifle. I hit too far back and broke his spine, but he was using his front legs to get into some brush. I didn’t want to ruin any more meat, so I reached for my .22 Magnum Single Six to shoot him in the head…then realized I’d left it on the seat of my friend’s truck. So I pulled out my Beretta Jetfire .25, and shot the hog twice behind the eye, broadside from about 20 feet. Why twice? Because “everyone knows .25s are underpowered.” Everyone except this hog; he fell over stone cold dead. When we dressed him out, my friend noted, “Here’s where you got him with your .22 mag, 2 shots, both through both sides of the skull and through the brain.” Me: “Uh, I didn’t use the .22 mag; I left it in your truck.” Him: “What’d you use?” Me: *pulling out the .25* “This .25 auto.” Him: “What?!?” Yes, and based on the wound channels, only one shot was needed; the second one was overkill. So, with good ammunition, the .25 can do a lot; the ammo I used was Fiocchi 50 grain solids. After that incident, I never felt under-gunned with my Beretta. I let a collector talk me out of it, but replaced it with a Taurus TP25 that is about as reliable as a rock and has decent accuracy (I guess I got lucky) with that same Fiocchi ammo. Thanks again for the great review.

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