Four Shot to Death in Nashville Waffle House by ‘Semi-Naked’ Gunman

It appears the term was likely coined by baby boomers not members of Gen X. Perhaps Neil Howe and William Strauss. I have seen no evidence Gen X uses the term more than other generations or uses it more pejoratively.

I’m aware of what people mean when they use the term. I wanted to get his definition. It’s been my experience that self-entitled boomers use the phrase to try to pass their social and moral failings onto the generation of their children.

Millenial (n.) : any young person I don’t like

Every time I hear or see the phrase, I just imagine the user is some fat, blue-haired slob increasingly uneasy with the fact that they are reaping the complacency that they sowed and being quickly outpaced by technology. If I had it my way, I’d kill Social Security and Disability insurance right now so I wouldn’t have to support these ingrates.

Last I checked the average age of Congress is 57 and the average age of the Senate is 61. So please tell this constitutionalist 32 year old how all that ails us is the fault of people under 35.

ORCON – You are presenting a strawman there. Few people blame Millennials for the current bad conditions but rather identify them as a symptom of what is what is wrong. Even most of those folks don’t say all Millennials are such, but rather just more than their share. Every generation has pitched in for all that is good and bad with today. Your’s may take the brunt of the fallout from government overspending and over reach of the last 90 decades, but yours may also be the first generation not to die of old age, so I wouldn’t complain too much. It all works out in the end, sort of;-)

Gen Xer here. We definitely use “millennial” in the pejorative sense. I probably use it that way every other day. I sometimes use it while cursing for no reason. Like if if I stub my toe I might yell out “ effing millennials!”

No strawman here, friend, just one mans subjective experience. I’m not above taking any lumps owed to me but if you want to critique any generation you’d better do it smartly and not take the lazy way out.

My generation is undoubtely the most privilaged group of humans to ever live on this earth. All the money in circulation in 1910 couldn’t buy even a small fraction of the luxuries we enjoy today. My 4 year old daughter eats better than the most powerful and wealthy nobility 3 generations ago could even imagine. I complain little and am thankful for being born when I was.

Works the opposite also. Some of us disdain “boomers” equally with “millenials”.

Speaking as a millenial, my generation is a bunch of self-absorbed morons capable of unheard-of stupidity. Short attention span, obsession with fame, and a general disdain for self-reliance. Many of us are pretty damn awful. That isn’t to say the other “generations” are not without faults, as we are, after all, products of our parenting. I just feel that my generation is particularly contemptible from what I’ve seen first hand. Don’t dismiss us all out of hand, however. Judge us as individuals, please.

For me, a peanut shell and a rubber band should do the job

No. I’ve never been ordered to do anything by a court. The only time I’ve seen the inside of a court room is for jury duty.

However, what a lot of people don’t realize is this: In the 1990’s throwing drugs at children was a craze, especially Ritalin. Teachers and administrators went to weekend conferences on things like ADD/ADHD and came back “experts” on the topic. This led to political wrangling at the local school level where they could make life very, very uncomfortable for students and their families if the teacher/administrator’s “professional” (I’m an expert I went to a conference!) opinion was not followed.

Fast forward to 1999 and this problem gets enormously worse. At this point, post Columbine, it’s no longer a fad where teachers/admins are acting smarter or better trained than they are. Now there’s a palpable fear that any child who is outside the “norm” in any way is the next school shooter. Of course, teachers and admins being less than 10% as smart as they think themselves to be, have the answer: Your kid needs drugs. Powerful, mind altering drugs.

At the time I was just coming out of a situation involving serious abuse within my family. I was angry and depressed over it. I lived in a small town, one where “town and gown” was a huge problem and those of us with parents who were professors at the university were treated with a special type of disdain even though we were born and raised in the town. So, for me, there was no help in dealing with this situation and after Columbine no one gave a shit about things like this they only worried you might pick up a gun and shoot a bunch of people.

This was a place where there really wasn’t a mental health system to speak of and the one guy who was a “mental health professional” was a fucking quack who threw pills at any person that came through the door. I was also, pardon me tooting my own horn here, many times smarter than most of my teachers and many, many fold smarter than any of the admins in my school system. The result of the whole situation was that I asked questions that they couldn’t answer and didn’t want to deal with. I read books that scared the shit out of the admins because they didn’t understand them. (Nitzsche for example, or history books that were not part of the assigned class reading.) I was labeled as “trouble” and, via the in-school/small town political process I was forced to see the previously mentioned quack. He threw pills at the situation and I had no choice but to take them because then, unlike now, there was no recourse for this sort of thing due to the fear that Columbine had created. On top of that, back then these things were considered “miracle” drugs by lay people (teachers and admins) which would magically take anyone who had a “problem” and fix it. Drugs were the answer and you’re damn well going to take them or there will be consequences up to and including getting courts involved over “poor parenting”. CPS can and will be called if you don’t do what “we” want. (Yeah, thanks, I could have used that when there was actual abuse but back then you didn’t give a fuck. Thanks again for your professionalism! Why don’t you run off to another conference and become an expert on something else, like I dunno, how to go fuck yourself?)

That’s what school was like for a lot of people back in the late 1990’s and early 2000’s. Unless you were there or had a kid go through it you probably had no idea it was happening but this is where the Gestapo like tactics in schools, the ones we see and worry about today, really started to gain steam under the guise of “promoting public safety”. It’s also where the tried and true methods that had worked for 100+ years were discarded in favor of this new brand of stupid you see today.

“No. I’ve never been ordered to do anything by a court. The only time I’ve seen the inside of a court room is for jury duty.”

*Technically*, that is a court order, subject to contempt-of-court penalties for blowing it off.

About Ritalin making someone a ‘cheap date’, does that mean they put out easier-faster?

If so, I sure wish we had it in the mid-70s.

Kids in the 90s had it good – Wine coolers were new and all the rage, and that alcoholic soda-pop lubricated the hinges on the heels of many a teenage girl… 😉

“I was also, pardon me tooting my own horn here, many times smarter than most of my teachers and many, many fold smarter than any of the admins in my school system.”

Ordinarily, I would blow that of as the Dunning-Kruger effect. Having read you here over the past few years, you actually are sharper than the population as a whole…

I may not have been clear about the individual drugs. Let me clear that up.

SSRI’s like Prozac make people a cheap date by making them more susceptible to the effects of alcohol. Ritalin is an upper. It’s effectively legal meth though slightly different chemically speaking. It will make your date anything but cheap.

The issue of over-prescription due to dumb-ass “I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express” type teachers started with drugs like Ritalin and ADD/ADHD. It morphed into drugs like Prozac and Celexa (SSRI’s) after Columbine and was no longer a “fad” but a fear driven response to that shooting and a grasping-at-straws hope that these SSRI anti-depressants were a miracle drug that would take depressed kids who were gonna shoot up a school and “fix them” with a handful of pills. It was a shirking of duty and responsibility on a massive scale.

I would encourage anyone who is told by a school that their kid needs drugs to research the recommended drugs VERY carefully as some of them can be dangerous, discuss this IN DETAIL with your family physician and go from there. If you’re faced with the decision my parents had, which they didn’t understand 20 years ago the way it’s understood today, I would advise that if you have the resources that you pull your kid from the school in question immediately. They don’t have you or your kid’s best interest at heart and they very likely have no fucking clue what they’re talking about medication wise. Just like the tards that tell you a diabetic can never have orange juice.