Florida House Subcommittee Passes HB 183, CCW Exemption for Lawmakers

FL House’s Criminal Justice Subcommittee on 1/28/2020 – Courtesy The Florida Channel

As we reported on Monday; the Florida’s Republican-controlled House Subcommittee on Criminal Justice was going to hear and vote on HB 183 (Prohibited Places for Weapons and Firearms) on Tuesday. HB 183 would state lawmakers and other elected officials an exemption from the ban on carrying firearms in government meetings. The House bill was introduced by Rep. Mel Ponder (R) and there’s a companion bill in the Senate, SB 1524, which was introduced by Sen. George Gainer (R).

So how did the House Subcommittee vote?

It passed by an 11 to 3 margin with 1 missed vote. Rep. Ramon Alexander (D), Rep. Mike Gottlieb (D), and Rep. Spencer Roach (R) voted against the bill. Rep. Dane Eagle (R) missed the vote, but is marked as a yea in favor.

You can watch the actual debate here.

Again, it is nice to see these elected officials perfectly representing the noble, egalitarian ideals that lawmakers espouse so strenuously during their campaigns. I guess it appears that some elected officials —  possibly the majority — aren’t for equality under the law. Instead, they favor special exemptions for the anointed and the creation of a noble class that rules over the plebeian peasantry.

So far, so good.

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comments

    1. avatar Dan says:

      Where are the tar and feathers? That should also be expected, and executed.

    2. avatar Illinois_Minion says:

      Welcome to second class citizenship.

  1. avatar ChoseDeath says:

    Scumbags. And how sad is it that I’m not surprised at all?

  2. avatar I Haz A Question says:

    Welcome to the CA experience, where nearly all our own gun control laws have always had exemptions for LEOs and other agents of the State. Here in CA, we can’t buy “off roster” guns, but LEOs and lawmakers can. We can’t buy standard capacity mags (last year’s Freedom Week was only a blip), but LEOs and lawmakers can. We can’t open carry, but LEOs and lawmakers can. We can’t even text and drive, but LEOs and lawmakers can. Etc, etc…it’s all there in the text all over our Penal Code. Lawmakers do things for themselves, then exempt LEOs as well to keep them pacified. Otherwise, can you imagine the uproar if Sheriffs and Police Chiefs across the state started complaining? We can’t have that, now can we?

    Same as it ever was.

    1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

      “Welcome to the CA experience, where nearly all our own gun control laws have always had exemptions for LEOs and other agents of the State.”

      I’m wondering if there may be a way to attack this…

      Some form of “Equal justice under law”, perhaps? Especially since they are doing it to an enumerated civil right… ?

      1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

        There are murmurs of challenging the entire slate of laws under the argument that the resultant second class of citizenry violates the 14th Amendment. Not confident it will gain much traction, though…

        1. avatar Erik in AZ says:

          All political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

        2. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

          Check out what Bob says below :

          “This could be challenged. The Florida State Constitution states the following under Article I – Deceleration of Rights, Section 2 – Basic Rights.

          “All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.”

          http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?submenu=3#A1S02

          I see this bill as a violation of the State Constitution since it is creating a class of nobility and the common citizen is being subjugated under the color of the law.”

          The ‘money shot’ quote :

          “All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law…”

          Wouldn’t that also mean if the cops have full-auto, we should also? 😉

        3. avatar Dude says:

          “All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law…”

          Are we supposed to pretend this isn’t blatant discrimination of unnatural / trans / non-binary?

        4. avatar Huntmaster says:

          This would violate Section 2. Basic Rights . “All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law……

        5. avatar Huntmaster says:

          That would be Section 2. of the Florida Constitution.

      2. avatar Hannibal says:

        If the courts refuse to apply the 2nd Amendment, a fairly simple and straightforward one, why would they try and make an indirect route via the 14th Amendment?

        Especially when voters keep these idiots in office.

    2. avatar biofire says:

      …and now we can’t have gun shows at the Cow Palace.

  3. avatar Patrick Henry says:

    liberty for me, not for thee. i didn’t ask the crowns permission to post this, how much trouble am I in?

    1. avatar In for a penny, In for a pound says:

      If there is a red flag law where you live, then you challenging your government betters words could be considered antisocial behavior. Then, a state shrink would say it is okay for the cops to kick in your door and endanger you and your family, all because you stood up for the Constitution.

  4. avatar Lance says:

    Of course…

  5. avatar Kyle says:

    As I said…like 5 seconds ago in another post on this site.

    I vote for pubs but I have not 2 spits of faith that they care a bit more about the constitution than the dems.

    …well, at least words to that effect.

  6. avatar Ken says:

    “The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.” Vladimir Lenin

    1. avatar Erik in AZ says:

      Exactly.

      Until the oppressed man up and take advantage of their numbers, their power, and their arms. I’m guessing that will be quite soon.

  7. avatar Chief Censor says:

    More Democrats voted against it than Republicans? Fake news! This author must be an Antifa Soros troll.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      Never forget that Democrats like state Senator Tom Ammiano publicly endorsed the Gov Reagan Mulford Act. Who knew a gay person could also be a klansman???

  8. avatar burley says:

    Exemptions for law makers and enforcers: the earmarks of tyranny….

  9. avatar GS650G says:

    we can’t just let anyone walk around with a gun on their hip now can we?

  10. avatar 2aguy says:

    There is an article at PJmedia about the low fund raising by republicans….Trump is rocking the fund raising, but the lower level republicans…not so much…..this is why. The republicans for too long, when the democrats say jump, the Republicans say “how high,” and then the republicans stab us in the back. We need these morons to stop the democrats….but we need to primary and replace these dweebs and put in place fighting republicans who will protect our Constitution, and President Trump.

    1. avatar Erik in AZ says:

      We need to end the GOP. Abort republicans. Kill the party.

      We need a Constitutional Party.

  11. avatar Bob says:

    This could be challenged. The Florida State Constitution states the following under Article I – Deceleration of Rights, Section 2 – Basic Rights.

    “All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.”

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?submenu=3#A1S02

    I see this bill as a violation of the State Constitution since it is creating a class of nobility and the common citizen is being subjugated under the color of the law.

    1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

      Thanks for pointing that out, Bob… 🙂

  12. avatar Imayeti says:

    George Orwell’s “Animal Farm” comes to mind.

  13. avatar Someone says:

    None of the Emperor’s laws apply to the Emperor.

  14. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    Not that where is important to me its not. But for them to put themselves above me. To that I give them a big F You. F’ing pissants to all politicians. Trust me where I go my gun goes with me. 20/24/7.

  15. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    So when elected and government workers shoot each other it will be normal now , as it was before. As has been done in Virginia, New York, Kentucky, Washington DC, and other states. It’s almost always government people killing each other in government buildings.

  16. avatar Billb says:

    Just like voting yourself a pay raise. Elitists that consider you peons, deplorables and that you live in fly over country.

  17. avatar Demoncrats says:

    Mo Brooks (US Rep from AL) tried this for politicians elected to federal office. This FL bill means any citizen attending a state government meeting will be at a personal defense disadvantage. You might even be held hostage by a politician until you vote the way you are told to vote.

  18. So do the politicians have to go through 400 hrs of training like the Teachers have to do to carry in a school?
    Or do the politicians just have to play COD to qualify?

    1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

      Do *NOT* click on the link that his name is.

      The website launched a new window that tried to bait me to click on a link to install something on my ‘puter. No legitimate website tries to pull a fast one like that.

      TTAG, can you zap that comment of his into oblivion?

  19. avatar Ronald West says:

    They must stop any bill’s that relates to the rights of law-bidding citizen’s, if u give the lefty a inch, that’s a inch closer to them taking control of your rights to bare and carry firearms, knifes,ect.

  20. avatar Super Frustrated in VA says:

    There needs to be a Constitutional Amendment that is applicable to all States that stipulates anything passed by the National and State Senators as well as Representatives will be the same for the regular person and them. Meaning Senators and Representative Health care, retirement, etc. is applicable to the common man as well as them.

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