Entire Georgia US House Delegation Asks AG Barr to Have DOJ Investigate Abery Shooting

Georgia Shooting Ahmaud Arbery

A man holds a sign during a rally to protest the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, Saturday, May 16, 2020, in Brunswick, Ga. (AP Photo/Stephen B. Morton)

From the AP . . .

All of Georgia’s lawmakers in the U.S. House asked Attorney General William Barr on Wednesday to involve the Justice Department in investigations of the slaying of Ahmaud Arbery as well as potential misconduct by local authorities who took more than two months to bring charges in the case.

All 14 members of the Georgia delegation, Republicans and Democrats, signed the letter addressed to Barr and Eric Dreiband, the assistant attorney general over the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

Arbery was fatally shot Feb. 23 by a white father and son who pursued the 25-year-old black man after spotting him running in their subdivision just outside the port city of Brunswick. More than two months passed before Gregory McMichael and his son, Travis McMichael, were arrested May 7 on charges of felony murder and aggravated assault.

Ahmaud Arbery Shooting

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“Across our state, our constituents are increasingly alarmed as we learn additional details about the case and its handling,” the Georgia lawmakers wrote. “For these reasons, we believe a full investigation, with robust federal support, is warranted.”

Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, a Republican, has also asked the Justice Department for a federal investigation.

Gregory McMichael told police after the shooting that he suspected Arbery was a burglar. He also said Arbery attacked his son before being shot. Arbery’s mother, Wanda Cooper-Jones, has said she believes her son was merely out jogging.

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  1. avatar JOHN B THAYER says:

    “WOMP, WOMP!”

  2. avatar I Haz A Question says:

    Well, at this point, regardless of where the facts eventually lead to, or *who* did *what* during the incident between Arbery and the McMichaels, it’s clear that the DOJ will need to answer the public’s call for blood and “do something”. Hopefully the result is genuine justice and not Pontius Pilate washing his hands and handing the accused over to the mob…

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      When does the white Republicans hand over a cop for a mob to tear apart? When do they persecute an innocent white man because black people said so?

      Don’t be delusional. That’s boomer talk.

      This murder shows the good ol’ boys club is still very strong down there. These are the men that started the civil war. These are the people that created gun control. These are the liberal Republicans who once called themselves Democrats.

      All you have to do is open your eyes. The truth is there. It’s history repeating itself.

      1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

        The more people use the term “boomer”, the less potency it retains. I’m not even of that generation. It’s starting to become a flash-in-the-pan buzz word, like how “hipster” was for a while before people started rolling their eyes.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          Sorry, you must be a son of a boomer. Millennials and Zoomers don’t talk like you do. I could be wrong and you could be lying.

        2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          Chief, I really don’t understand why generations are labeled. We don’t tolerate the labeling of any other group. I know! Why don’t we just label you full of shit and wash our hands of you.

        3. avatar Chief Censor says:

          @Gadsden Flag

          They label generations by time period. Each generation has their own personal experience growing up. The various generations have their own spin on the way they see the world.

        4. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          Gen X, if labels must be applied. A true son of the ’80s…the best decade of the 20th Century.

        5. avatar Huntmaster says:

          Kind of like labeling each ethnic group because they each have their own ethnic experience huh Chief? But you mention history repeating itself?

        6. avatar Ron says:

          Yeah chief since we can now obviously discriminate and judge based upon age, obviously the next logical step is to do the same based on race. I look forward to your support in a new racial hierarchy in which we can organize society from.

        7. avatar Geoff "Guns. LOTS of guns..." PR says:

          “The more people use the term “boomer”, the less potency it retains.”

          Preach it, brother!

          The same thing is happening with an accusation of “Racist!”

          You Leftist scum have slung that around so broadly, it no longer has any impact. Now, when actual racists pop up, it gets ignored.

          Congratulations, Chicken Little, now, no one believes the sky is falling…

        8. avatar RidgeRunners says:

          You know Boomers, the ones that produced good music, where people actually play instruments and sing? The guy that invented the iPhone? Remember?

      2. avatar Cleophus says:

        Another public school jug head preaching revisionist history. Abraham Lincoln started the War Between the States you idiot.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          No… The rich ass elites did. It was a bunch of white men fighting over their economic interests. You think Bush started Iraq and Afghanistan?

        2. avatar rosignol says:

          Yup, yup, Lincoln started ‘the war between the states’ when the Federal troops at Ft Sumter provoked the locals into firing on them with artillery.

          /s

          Where the hell did you go to school?

        3. avatar M says:

          If Bush didn’t start Iraq and Afghanistan, he clearly didn’t hesitate in wasting tax payers $ and most importantly American lives. Regarding Afghanistan, another sh*tshow, the CIA trained and financed the Talibans during the cold war to begin with. Obama despite his Peace Nobel Price (what a joke) didn’t withdraw our troops from Afghanistan either, even after Bin Laden was killed….in Pakistan. No WW3 with Trump yet, I guess the leftist “journalists” were wrong. If Biden is elected, or “elected,” you can expect globalist warfare at full throttle again.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          So… Rosigol… By your logic, if China decided to fly some troops into a major harbor in the US, set up a military fortification, and refused to leave when ordered to by the US government, the US would be “starting a war” if we used force to remove said troops? Am I getting that right?

      3. avatar Ron says:

        “These are the people that started the civil war.”

        Well they must geniuses then who either discovered immortality or invented a time machine.

        God Chief, you are a fucking retard.

      4. avatar Waylon says:

        @ Chief Censor

        Just because you can post at a 10/1 ratio here like a madman doesn’t make you right. Your sheer volume of posts on every article all day leads me to believe you must be a paid troll. Or your unemployed with literally nothing else to no. No real sane person has the time and energy you do to post like this.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          To be fair… I find debunking the cretins here remarkably soothing and my job involves a lot of down time.

      5. avatar Chief CCCP Censor - PwNPRserge, the story of two men in conflict with their sexuality, debating guns and politics while wearing leather chaps says:

        Holly cow, you didn’t get pegged today Chief Censor?

    2. avatar Geoff "Guns. LOTS of guns..." PR says:

      “Hopefully the result is genuine justice and not Pontius Pilate washing his hands and handing the accused over to the mob…”

      Well, that’s what happened with both Zimmerman and the Ferguson case, and there was outrage over both verdicts…

      1. avatar Hannibal says:

        There was not video in either case, though. Had there been video of Zimmerman assaulting Martin and then shooting him when the latter resisted or of Wilson shooting Brown in the back as he ran away things would have been very different.

        I don’t think either of those things happened but they are what the alternative narrative claimed.

      2. avatar Chief Censor says:

        Yet Zimmerman is walking around being the asshole he was prior to the shooting. No one popped him. He might be the new OJ.

        1. avatar Hydguy says:

          Lol!! You can’t help but to parade your ignorance around.
          I bet you still believe Zimmerman is white, too..

  3. avatar The Huscarl says:

    Honestly, the most worrying thing to me is that, if there’s a not-guilty verdict on the murder charges and a guilty verdict on hate-crime charges, it would establish legal precedent that people don’t have a right to self-defense if the assailant’s skin tone is different from the defender’s.

    The more info has come out, the more it seems the McMichaels did nothing wrong. I think pwserge will be the only one here not eating crow when the not-guilty verdict comes in.

    You guys should check out all of Stefan Molyneux’s informative presentations on the shooting. They’re great.

    1. avatar Randy Jones says:

      Check out Colion Noir’s two segments for one side. Andrew Branca’s things on the Law of Self Defense spell out the other. Both have said all the information isn’t out yet. ow, with the polce department telling the homeowner that Gregory would be happy to help out, it make you wonder what they told Gregory he could do.

      Either way this goes, I believe it will become a Goat Rodeo.

      1. avatar The Huscarl says:

        Haven’t gotten around to that yet, thanks for the tip.

      2. avatar Chief Censor says:

        I heard it was Greg that called up the police. Officer Rash called Larry to give him Greg’s number. Officer Rash was involved with a case of a corrupt felon of a cop (who eventually murdered two more people and had a stand off his buddies/cops). Officer Rash helped cover up the cops crimes until he murdered his wife and new man then killed himself after a chase.

        I saw this case years ago. I remember watching the body cams.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Dirty dirty ho got caught being a dirty cheating ho. Hilarity ensues. Pro tip: Don’t be a dirty cheating ho.

      3. avatar Chief Censor says:

        I think there is only one black cop down there, from what I have seen. I thought I heard he was the one that wanted to arrest the McMichaels on scene, officer Rash was there with him.

        These are the good ol’ boys that run stuff down there. They promoted that horrible man.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Keeps citing commie propaganda sources as if they help his argument… adorable. Was XiNN not available for comment?

          News organizations are not legitimate sources nor are their presentations arguments.

    2. avatar Chief Censor says:

      You do know Stefan is a white supremacist from Canada and he is a well known propagandist trying to divide Americans via racial lines?

      1. avatar The Huscarl says:

        Stefan isn’t a white supremacists. Having watched hundreds of hours of his material, I believe I can much more accurately summarize his thoughts on such issues.

        He believes that the natural environments in which the different races evolved resulted in different characteristics, including differences in IQ. That being said he’s for organizing our society along free market and meritocratic principles. Discriminating against people for being members of the “wrong” race doesn’t make since because averages are derived from individuals; individuals are not derived from averages. In other words, it doesn’t do society any good to discriminate against blacks due to their average IQ of around 80 because systemic discrimination would prevent the individual members with a much greater IQ from maximizing their contribution to society.

        He doesn’t have great expectations from blacks, but actively suppressing them would prevent great individuals from accomplishing great things and that would be wrong.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          I followed Stefan for years. He is a white supremacist and a liar. I told him so and he does not refute. His rhetoric is the standard talking points of the typical alt right member. He went around the world with white supremacists giving speeches. He fools low IQ white males into giving him money after pumping up their egos.

        2. avatar The Huscarl says:

          And in not one part of your response did you refute any of his positions. You say he’s wrong, but not how. Your reply is useless.

          Have a good day.

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          … and yet you have yet to present an example of how this is so. It’s hilarious, any time you get argued into a corner, you scream “muh’ racism!” and declare victory.

        4. avatar Chief Censor says:

          @pwrserge

          Stefan is just like you. I bet you watch his content with happiness? Stefan is a manipulator of the white youth. He worked for people who openly declared their intent to create a race war in America to destroy it from within.

          How do you think “race war” and “race baiting” became common speech this year? It took years of people like Stefan and Richard Spencer infiltrating the Republican party to turn it into a national socialist party. They even hired black lefties to pretend to be Republicans to support the MAGA agenda.

          They even fooled Kanye West at one point. Then he figured out he was being used.

          I will end that conversation here. It will only lead to off topic stuff and bans.

        5. avatar pwrserge says:

          An accusation made without evidence is meaningless. Learn to debate chi-com KungPowTroll. Also, I recommend some remedial training in the Queen’s English.

      2. avatar HowManyTrollsAreHere? says:

        Watching 2 paid trolls argue is hilarious. Powerserge at least admits to being a Russian. Chief Censor is some part of Alinskys group. They litterally are getting paid by the post to argue with each other, hilarious!

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah, I admit to being a Russian the same way Anne Frank would admit to being a Nazi.

        2. avatar Imperium1974 says:

          Except Serge is a commie who is constantly calling everyone else commies. Calling for lining up people to be shot based on politics is as communist as it gets. Being Russian doesn’t automatically make you a commie. Serge on the other hand…..

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          No, calling for people to get lined up and shot for treason is as patriotic as it gets, if a little authoritarian.

          Learn to debate kiddo.

    3. avatar GS650G says:

      Can’t wait to see justification for confronting someone with a shotgun down the street from home. Yessir, justify this shooting for us. Those two in a truck had so much fear for their lives.

      1. avatar The Huscarl says:

        They had probable cause to believe that a crime had just taken place and so they had authority to make a citizens arrest. In fleeing the scene of a felony, Aubrey had forfeited his right to self defense under Georgia law. When Aubrey assaulted Travis for the gun, Travis had every right to defend himself. Case closed.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          They did not witness Arbery enter the house and they had no access to the cameras inside. Greg saw a black man running down the street. That is not probable cause because Arbery did not see a uniformed officer before he jogged down the road. There is video evidence of him doing the exact same thing he did that day but at night and all by himself. There are multiple videos proving his intent was not to steal.

          There is no probable cause and no proof of intent to commit a crime. Greg and Travis stated they only wanted to talk, not to arrest him. The corrupt DA wrote a defense letter on behalf of the McMichaels before he left the investigation because of a conflict of interest.

          The result: aggravated assault and felony murder. The government agrees and they have way more proof.

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Bullshit.

        3. avatar BusyBeef says:

          Where’d you get your law degree?
          Because you’re wrong on at least two of your points. Like, tragically wrong.

    4. avatar Paul says:

      The McMichaels went out into a public street, waving weapons about, and challenged a man, based on little more than his skin color. Damned right they done wrong. If some fool comes after me, brandishing a weapon, I’m going to take SOME KIND of defensive action.

      1. avatar Miner49er says:

        Isn’t it interesting, the ‘thug’ was unarmed, no gun, no knife, no club.

        It was the McMichaels who brought the guns and attitude in their 2-ton truck and road blocked the victim. They had no right to stand in his way, especially by visible threat of arms.

    5. avatar Ian Smith says:

      Did nothing wrong? When last did two black men shoot a white jogger and we call it self defence. You are delusional.

  4. avatar Ralph says:

    Yeah, that’s the way to do it. Duck any responsibility and pass the buck to the Feds.

    Georgia politicians, cops and AGs, get your sh!t together and do the jobs you’re paid to do.

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      The Republicans want Trump to take all the heat.

  5. avatar Randy Jones says:

    Apparently they don’t trust the GBI either. They are in charge of the case now. What happens when this comes back from GBI? One side or the other will be ticked off. What happens when Barr and the DOJ get involved, no matter the outcome, one side or the other will be ticked off. So are the politicians just being political, pushing it further upstairs so they can wash their hands of it?

    My personal view is the McMichaels are on the wrong side of the law, but it all goes back to the “intent” of both Arbery and the McMichaels, and was the McMichaels ‘suspicion’ of Arbery ‘reasonable’. Those things are very subjective. And where will you find a jury from that part of the country that someone isn’t going to raise issue with. As far as the police go, yes, some things could be considered questionable and I’m sure I don’t know all the details.

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      The thin blue line and the good ol’ boy network closed ranks.

      Isn’t concealing a crime a crime in itself?

  6. avatar Debbie W. says:

    Why run to a slowpoke like Barr? The man has yet to get one democrat sleazebag for concocting slanderous and libelous schemes to overthrow a duly elected POTUS.
    The McMichael case does not take a rocket scientist to see what clearly happened. Unless there is some colossal Perry Mason moment the McMichaels are up sht creek without a paddle.

  7. avatar chedolf says:

    “Last Friday, the day after two whites in Georgia were arrested in the vastly publicized killing of the black jogger/prowler Ahmaud Arbery, a young black gunman murdered two octogenarian whites, Paul and Lidia Marino, while they were visiting their son’s grave at a veterans’ cemetery in Delaware.

    “In contrast to Arbery’s killing, this second interracial killing case has gotten virtually zero national media attention through Tuesday morning. The cops don’t have an explanation for the killer’s actions yet. The possibility that the cemetery killer was inspired to shoot some random whites by the enormous media hoopla over the still-ambiguous death of Arbery is not something that the prestige press is rushing to look into.”

    – “Racial Revenge?

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      Social(ist) justice. Under Progressive ideology, only white people can be racist and not only must be punished, but also must be made to suffer for all the wrongs done by past generations for the last 2-5 thousand years.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        This is why I laugh whenever I hear those hypocrites talk about equality. The only thing they stand for is power. It isn’t about equality, it’s about a means to an end.

        Their argument is that you can’t be racist toward a white person because the white person is the one with the power. That isn’t what racism is, but whatever, let’s go with their corrupted definition. So what was it when an average white citizen criticized the most powerful man in the world, President Obama? That’s racist! How convenient that the hypocrites now won’t even use their own f’ed up definition.

  8. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

    Still waiting on actual testimony, transcripts, and evidence.

    Neither the Michael Brown SBC or the Zimmerman/Trayvon thing turned out to be anything like the published fiction. This is likely more of the same.

    It does look like both the McMichaels and Arbery had issues. The truth will probably be that 2 slow kids met in the street to fight over a shotgun and we all lost.

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      I knew once Zimmerman was at the police station, and showed the cops the back of his head, he would not be found guilty. There was no evidence out side of an audio clip of someone yelling for help. That is not enough to convict him of murder even if he did do it. He had a good story and nothing was able to prove otherwise. Luckily for Zimmerman he didn’t have a camera man.

      1. avatar Mike V says:

        Camera could have helped him too.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          Speculation.

          He could have gotten a different charge. Without evidence they couldn’t get him on anything.

      2. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

        “Lucky” for Mr. Zimmerman that Mr. Martin’s girlfriend’s testimony didn’t support the racist-thug-hunting-the-innocent-black-youth narrative that the media pushed so hard.

  9. avatar Stive says:

    Where’s the uproar for the breonna Taylor shooting in St. Louis ?

    Guess when the government guns someone down it’s acceptable

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      That was talked about here.

      Right now the cops are saying they have no cameras. It’s three white cops versus one black man, whom they suspected of being in a house where drugs were being sent. The dead woman is black.

      This is an almost impossible case to win because white America trusts the police and not black people. Heck, they trust the police so much they will allow white people to be murdered on camera and not convict the police. Something is wrong with their souls and brains.

      If this doesn’t get white people to convict a cop what will?

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Ah… there’s your XiNN reference you piece of garbage chi-com KungPowTroll.

        1. avatar Imperium1974 says:

          And the Commie strikes again….

  10. avatar Jon in CO says:

    This is a big no for me. Involving federal government in a state murder case is ridiculous overreach.

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      They are not investigating the murder itself. They are investigating the good ol’ boys’ police and DA department.

      You are way behind on the facts.

  11. avatar American Patriot says:

    Sounds like Ga authorities already have em convicted……Maybe they’ll need a trial in some other area.

  12. avatar Manse Jolly says:

    I still maintain that this case will not go to trial. They’ll do a plea deal and spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
    Has the Death Penalty been taken off the table yet? No one in their right mind would gamble with that IMO, but maybe they will.
    Would any of you?

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      I think under Georgia law Travis could get the death penalty if the state chooses that as an option. I don’t think Greg is at risk for the death penalty. Greg could easily throw his son under the bus for a lesser sentence. Greg still has a daughter at home.

  13. avatar Stateisevil says:

    The feds have no jurisdiction at all per the Constitution. It’s a purely criminal and civil matter. They’re not being called into investigate a systemic deprivation of rights through the courts system. This is Georgia politicians being smarmy politicians.

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      That’s exactly what they are being called to investigate. When someone can be murdered in the street and the local authorities refuse to do anything about it they are depriving the victim of their rights to equal protection. It’s precisely what happened in the days of lynching.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Yeah… and yet, this “lynching” gave the scumbag in question numerous opportunity to settle things in court. Instead, like the inbred retard he was, he decided to see if fist beats shotgun.

        1. avatar Imperium1974 says:

          Yeah, looks to me like a guy defending himself against two ass clowns trying to stop him with a shotgun. He tried, he lost Comrade commie.

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          You can’t “defend” yourself from a lawful arrest. That’s called “resisting arrest”.

        3. avatar Montana Actual says:

          You have no idea if it was lawful. That’s what the whole fucking trial starts with. Was this legal? Was the “citizens arrest” legal? No. You keep saying it was, but here we are. That is the whole point of this. You keep acting like you know better, but you are one of the last ones to get any information, even if you assume it’s more information than ANYONE on this forum. Still, just a peon. Chasing after someone with guns drawn as a civilian is not a good idea. Plain and simple. They made stupid decisions, and this is the result. Only time will tell if you are lucky enough to call yourself correct. You can fill that head of yours with helium all you want, it doesn’t change the basis of why these men are in this predicament. Their poor decision making and use of force when it was NOT entirely necessary. Their lives were not threatened by this man running away from them. End.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          The reason they are in this position is racism from a group of people so pampered that nobody says a thing when they form armed mobs to go intimidate witnesses.

    2. avatar Chief Censor says:

      Georgia Republicans were denying Arbery due process of law and equal protection. GBI is also known to be corrupt when cases reach far down the rabbit hole.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        The scumbag felon got all the due process he was entitled to when he tried to grab a loaded gun while being lawfully detained.

        1. avatar Aaron says:

          I don’t know why so many people have their heads up their backsides, laws are laws and facts are facts. Feelz don’t cut it in this situation.

        2. avatar Aaron says:

          Just to clarify, I agree with you.

        3. avatar Southern Cross says:

          From previous articles, the detention was not legal. The reason for the citizens arrest was not corroborated by the alleged victim of the break and enter. And less so for the killing.

          Because of the McMicheal’s previous association with law enforcement, the local PD and county DA chose not to investigate or prosecute. The thin blue line and the good ol’ boy network closed ranks, and this could be criminal collusion to conceal a felony.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          I can demonstrate reasonable suspicion of all three elements of felony burglary from released evidence. You’re full of shit on this one.

        5. avatar Imperium1974 says:

          They were not cops Comrade fucktard. They can perform a citizen’s arrest if they WITNESSED him commiting a crime. They are not covered by reasonable suspicion in Georgia commie.

        6. avatar pwrserge says:

          Witnessing a crime is far beyond the reasonable suspicion standard kid. Your argument makes exactly zero sense. If they witnessing the crime was a universal standard, reasonable suspicion would have no reason to be in the statute. Learn to English.

        7. avatar Paul says:

          To have been a lawful detention, the McMichaels would have needed to witness an actual crime taking place in their presence. In fact, the McMichaels watched some stupid video that was days old (or more) and decided to accost the next black guy with the nerve to come through their neighborhood. No crime was committed, according to the man who owns the building under construction. Go read that law that you pretend to cite again. A crime must have taken place for any arrest to be lawful. The McMichaels would have had to WITNESS that crime. Neither of those requirements can be met, when the homeowner insists that nothing was taken from the construction site.

        8. avatar Miner49er says:

          “A crime must have taken place for any arrest to be lawful.”

          Correct, the property owner says no crime was committed. In any case, the big Michael’s witnessed nothing.

          The reason Travis was carrying the shotgun and jumped out to a cost Arbey was because Travis was upset about the gun stolen from his truck weeks before.

          It doesn’t help that the majority of Glynn county LEO’s are either corrupt or inept.

          Corrupt police officers often build up a bad reputation within the community, many of the jury pool may be looking for the opportunity to indicate their displeasure with the ‘community policing‘ they’ve endured.

    3. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

      Exactly. Not a federal issue.

  14. avatar Hannibal says:

    Due process should be given a chance when it comes to the individuals who have been charged (and another that may be charged).

    That said, there is PLENTY of room for an investigation of the authorities who seemed happy to turn a blind eye to this entire incident up until the moment it became impossible to ignore… and their connections to one of the defendants.

  15. avatar HEGEMON says:

    Facts: Arbery was a petty thief, had criminal record, hostile towards law enforcement, he didn’t go jogging, provoked the situation, DIDN’T deserve to get shot. The Mcmichaels had a prior history with Arbery, the McMichaels shouldn’t have been involved in vigilantism, the McMichaels provoked the situation, it WASN’T self-defense. No easy answers.

    1. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

      But it’s not a federal issue.

      1. avatar Miner49er says:

        Local law-enforcement and prosecutors were involved in a cover-up, depriving the victim of his civil rights to due process.

        In the past few weeks, two local police chiefs, a captain and a sergeant have all been arrested for covering up crimes by other law-enforcement personnel. The grand jury return 20 indictments against LE in the very county were the victim was murdered.

        There’s also evidence showing that McMichaels himself was in violation of Georgia statute, carrying a badge and a gun, performing law-enforcement duties without the certification required by Georgia law.
        And there’s evidence showing that this was brought to the attention of the local prosecutor in 2014, six years ago, but he was only suspended from duties last year.

        You bet we need a DOJ investigation, if the local government is corrupt we need a watchdog to ensure the rights of the citizens, no matter what color they are.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          A dead man has no rights, due process or otherwise.

        2. avatar Miner49er says:

          “A dead man has no rights, due process or otherwise.”

          Really? So I could kill you and suffer no consequences, because you would be dead and have no rights.

          Even more interesting, aborted fetui are dead, and have no right to life. I had no idea you took a pro-choice position, fascinating.

          You are truly clueless.

  16. avatar Grim Reaper says:

    Chief Censor wrights good ol’ boys in about every post now. LOL… And after WOM pointed out the fact that it was a black lynch mob that marched on Brunswick the lynch mob term is getting a lot of use now too. Hang’em high and satisfy the blood thirsty black mob. Yeah buddy… But no matter what, a fair trial and an impartial jury ever being seated can not ever happen. Best Feds can do is to string it out until after the election and this is probably what happens. After the election the Feds will have more ‘flexibility’. pwserge should be around soon enough to beat most of you down and put most of you back into line. This story is an on going bonanza for TTAG so with that just try to tolerate the foolish posts posts of Miner49er, Chief Censor and Montana Actual until this storm blows over.

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      Trump 2024 and beyond.

    2. avatar pwrserge says:

      Yeah… given how much legal analysis I’m handing out for free, I should really start billing these morons.

      1. avatar Debbie W. says:

        I hate to pee on you and your parade of perpetual bigoted stupidity but you wouldn’t rate as an outhouse lawyer.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          The degrees on my wall say otherwise.

        2. avatar GuyInWI says:

          Wow Powerserge has truly have lost it. Do you ever stop lying? Never read more BS in my life than comes out of your posts. It’s pretty bad when you get called out by Debbie. You have no understanding of the law and when you do its selective to fit your narrative. This has been pointed out numerous times.

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          … and yet I am in agreement with one of the most respected civil rights lawyers in the country… Guess he must have “no understanding of the law” as well.

      2. avatar Imperium1974 says:

        I don’t think anyone needs advice from a propaganda spouting commie like Serge.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          … and yet people pay me thousands of dollars for my advice on a daily basis. That’s literally my job.

        2. avatar Chief CCCP Censor - PwNPRserge, the story of two men in conflict with their sexuality, debating guns and politics while wearing leather chaps says:

          Correction, married men in their fifties pay you dozens of dollars to swallow their load.

        3. avatar Montana Actual says:

          Prove it. For once, back up your bullshit. Timestamp and imgur. Do it, or you are full of shit. Doesn’t matter anyways… but at least if you are gonna brag about it and talk like you know better than everyone else, prove it. We all know you won’t, because you can’t. It’s very easy to take a picture and post a timestamp image. You don’t even have to use any real names. Do it, or fuck off.

        4. avatar Miner49er says:

          Sergei, show them they’re wrong!

          Take a picture of a couple of the diplomas on your wall, blank your name and other identifying info, and post it right here for all to see.

          It’s the old put up or shut up routine, why not?

        5. avatar Dude says:

          Forgery is a thing you know. It wouldn’t prove anything, so it’s pointless to even ask. This is the internet.

        6. avatar pwrserge says:

          Ok… let me explain something to you.

          1. I’m not going to dox myself for you.
          2. Nothing I post will be good enough for you clowns.
          3. I have nothing to prove to vermin like you.

        7. avatar Montana Actual says:

          So… you can’t. All you had to do was take a picture of your acclaimed accomplishments and timestamp it. If you were not retarded, you would understand how to do this without “doxing” yourself.

          Don’t get mad cuz we caught you in a lie. Just shut the fuck up and know your place next time. Opinions are like assholes.

      3. avatar Montana Actual says:

        Prove it. For once, back up your bullshit. Timestamp and imgur. Do it, or you are full of shit. Doesn’t matter anyways… but at least if you are gonna brag about it and talk like you know better than everyone else, prove it. We all know you won’t, because you can’t. It’s very easy to take a picture and post a timestamp image. You don’t even have to use any real names. Do it, or fuck off.

    3. avatar Foolish posts posts says:

      Oh smooth smooth smooth I hope that pswerge notices me. Maybe this time he’ll acknowledge my presence. After all, I love kissing the ass of a pretend lawyer and generally disagreeable asswipe.

    4. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

      Not a federal issue.

  17. avatar pwrserge says:

    Now we just need Nazi 69er to show up and call us all racists while sharing fond memories of Nuremberg march in 1933.

  18. avatar Manse Jolly says:

    Interesting and note worthy as things progress…

    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/05/20/heck-going-glynn-county-georgia/

    “This murder, in my opinion, could have been avoided if the local police enforced the law on themselves. Our cops kill innocent people all the time here. Caroline Small was murdered by a cop who in turn brutally murdered his estranged wife and her boyfriend before committing suicide. After assaulting her in front of uniformed officers. They did nothing. Ahmaud deserves justice. Caroline deserves justice. Katie Kettles and John Hall deserve justice. Our DA is crooked. Our cops are crooked. Our judge was national news at one point for running the drug court program while getting off scot-free for several DUIs. I don’t have the means or platform to make noise, but I advocate for what’s right and I believe that maybe in some small way I can help by getting the word out.”

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      “Anonymous source” aka “I made this shit up but don’t want to get sued for defamation”

      1. avatar Manse Jolly says:

        None of the events used as examples in the above article are in dispute.

      2. avatar Miner49er says:

        Sergei, your disinformation attempts are weak, your handlerswill be very displeased that you were not more effective at obscuring the truth.

        “BRUNSWICK, Ga.
        – Four current or former police officers, including current Glynn County Police Chief John Powell, were indicted Thursday night on a variety of charges resulting from an investigation into a former police officer who had sex with a confidential informant.”

        You do know, Arbey was murdered in Glynn County. We need an investigation by the department of justice in order to see just how far the prosecution and law-enforcement rot goes.

    2. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

      Not a federal issue.

  19. avatar sound awake says:

    the last 4 years hath shewn us one thing:
    if the democrats are soiling themselves over it…its BS of the highest order
    end. of. story.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Now now… Juicy really did get assaulted… by two gay MAGA hat wearing Nigerians… who he paid to do it.

      1. avatar Imperium1974 says:

        And a fucktarded racist commie at that. Should’ve fuckin stayed in the motherland comrade. Every time you speak, I smell Putin.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Awful brave words for someone hiding behind a keyboard. I wonder if you’d have the balls to be this blatantly racist to my face?

        2. avatar Miner49er says:

          Sergei, you’re the queen of hiding behind a keyboard, while calling for others to be shot.

          You spent hours in front of the keyboard, eating Chito’s, watching porn, wondering why your dick is turning orange.

          You had better hope your mom never checks your browser history, or you’ll be in big trouble for all the gay porn.

        3. avatar Dude says:

          The Party of Acceptance and Inclusion insulting someone by insinuating they’re gay. That’s a new one, Not.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah… it’s always interesting how much racism and bigotry comes out of the mouths of people who consider themselves your moral superiors.

        5. avatar Miner49er says:

          Nothing wrong with watching gay porn, if that’s what floats your boat.

          Unless your mom catches you.

          Right, Sergei?

        6. avatar Montana Actual says:

          Did you just ask someone to “say it to my face” online? And we are supposed to believe you make “thousands of dollars” through legal representation?

          You have literally made everyone’s head hurt here. Not just a certain few who disagree with you, but everyone. Everyone else finds common ground somewhere, but you are a troll of the highest order. Seriously man, you are the reason red flags exist. If I knew you for real, I’d just pull a Karen on your bitch ass in the hopes you get slotted. Do us all a favor and stop existing, at the very least, come to terms with the reality that everyone sees through your bullshit tough guy lies and that your credentials are entirely falsified, and just stop commenting. You seriously need a mental health break from opinion comment sections.

  20. avatar Grim Reaper says:

    Justice for AHMAUD? How about some ‘justice’ for the thousands of blacks in Chicago that are shot down like dogs every day. But that’s different and OK because it’s black on black killing. And you can take the africans out of the jungle but you can’t take the jungle out of the africans. They gonna MARCH and hoot and holler and now moreso cuz they need trojan horse Biden in so his black VP woman as Kamala Harris can become the POTUS. Black daddy Barack just loves Kamala and he pulls all the strings now behind the scenes. Uncle Joe is his white Uncle Tom. Yes’um boss, I step and fetch any way you say boss.

    The devil went down to georgia he was lookin’ for a soul to steal he was in a bind ’cause he was way behind and he was willin’ to make a deal. When he came upon this young man sawin’ on a fiddle and playin’ it hot the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said boy let me tell you what … Fire on the Mountain.” Run, McMichaels boys, run. The Devil’s in the house of the rising sun. Chicken’s in the bread pan picking out dough.
    They gonna lynch you fine boys – don’t you know?

    But all you many rebel rousers that came South would do well to turn tale and get back to where you once belong. This is Georgia after all, not New York. Yankees can be handled in the back woods if worst comes to worst. Hell-o no we did not forget.

    And again, this story is an on going bonanza for TTAG so with that just try to tolerate the foolish posts of Miner49er, Chief Censor and ‘Montana Actual’, and the black racist carpet-bagger democRats posting on here, until this storm blows over.

    What these key board Perry Masons don’t get is the accused is entitled to a fair and and impartial jury. Since that is now impossible – case dismissed. Even in Bum-F-EGYPT they could not get a fair trial. Be more careful next time about poisoning the jury pool and running your mouths too much and stirring up a black lynch mob.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      While I love that theory, sadly there is no precedent for quashing indictments based on a biased jury pool. Change of venue is routine, but given the publicity of this case, insufficient. I would expect the presiding judge to give quite a bit of leeway to the defense for challenging witnesses because of the strong bias in the jury pool if he wants to avoid having this blow up in his face. (Were I defense counsel, I would have every selected member of the jury investigated for any ties to any of the groups pushing this nonsense and then move to remove them after prosecution has rested their case to guarantee a mistrial with prejudice. Precedent for such a ruling being US v Bundy.)

      1. avatar Debbie W. says:

        You can run your piehole until the cows come home but you are attempting to defend the indefensible. The indefensible in this case are the actions of the McMichaels. Based on your rhetoric you have all the attributes of the McMichaels and had you been there with the McMichaels you’d been in the truck right along with them and you’d be in a jail cell right along with them. In case you are not smart enough to figure it out…There is nothing I despise more than a bigot.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Ok honey. Thanks for proving that Islam is right about women.

          You have zero evidence of bigotry. Hell, you just take “news” from organizations you know to be full of shit on all OTHER topics, and then treat it as gospel. Cognitive dissonance much?

        2. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

          Not a federal issue.

        3. avatar Debbie Wasserman Schultz says:

          So Debbie hates bigots, then what, who the f really cares? Who are you? Oh yeah, it’s Debbie lol, she’s one of those important folks on TTAG.

      2. avatar Imperium1974 says:

        Of course you would commie. Then you’d line em up and have em shot.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Now now Vlad, just because I destroyed your “arguments” every time you opened your moth doesn’t mean you have an excuse to be a racist.

    2. avatar Paul says:

      Get a grip, dude – thousands of blacks are NOT SHOT in Chicago every day. It doesn’t even reach 1000 per year. And, you had something there – you can’t blame Whitey for black murders committed by blacks. With those two backfired attempts to make some kind of point, you lose all credibility. You should stop wasting bandwidth. St. Greta asks, “HOW DARE YOU?!”

  21. avatar Mike V says:

    “Yankees can be handled in the back woods if worst comes to worst. Hell-o no we did not forget.”

    Famous last words on many Confederate tombstones…

    1. avatar Build a wall around the trailer parks says:

      Yankees stumped the hillbillies.

  22. avatar Grim Reaper says:

    Oh smooth smooth smooth I hope that pswerge notices me. Maybe this time he’ll acknowledge my presence. After all, I love kissing the ass of a pretend lawyer and generally disagreeable asswipe.

    REPLY – ” Even with the typo, or error by TTAG’s system as I type so fast, that post was indeed ~smooth. ”

    ” And they do post and post and post and post – right? ” ” And serge, even with his short comings, is a damn site better than all of the key board Perry Masons on here. ”

    What these key board Perry Masons don’t get is the accused is entitled to a fair and impartial jury. Again on point even with the typo – right?

    The Grim Reaper: He is the personification of death, cloaked skeleton holding a scythe. To take away your very last breath, pray that he never comes to visit. Most gruesome specter you will ever find. He glides by night, his destined victims for which he’ll seek. He will see you in hell before you speak. So mind yourself as you sleep.

  23. avatar Grim Reaper says:

    pwrserge – While I love that theory, sadly there is no precedent for quashing indictments based on a biased jury pool.

    REPLY – ” You’re correct again as usual. Good thing that you have been posting guidance here about this case. Maybe because of this they can keep it in their pants and not get so worked up and be let down so hard when the boys go out on a plea deal – after the election. ”

    You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everyone dances with the Grim Reaper.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      I doubt there will be a plea deal. More likely this will go to a Grand Jury and they will no bill it. I expect the defense to move to another bail hearing as there is no precedent for denying bail to people with no criminal history and no means or motive to flee.

      1. avatar Geoff "Guns. LOTS of guns..." PR says:

        “I doubt there will be a plea deal. More likely this will go to a Grand Jury and they will no bill it.”

        The GJ has zero-point-*zero* incentive for them *not* recommend prosecution, and every reason to prosecute.

        Why, do you ask?

        Simple – You aren’t going to be able to find a potential juror who *hasn’t* heard about this yet who likely hasn’t formed an opinion on it already. Therefore, the safest thing the GJ can do to cover their asses is to recommend prosecution and let the courts decide what happened. As far as the members of the GJ will be concerned, their conscious will then be clean, since they didn’t no-bill it. A potential murderer won’t be walking the streets…

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Depends what the grand jury instructions are and what evidence is presented. If I was the prosecuting DA and didn’t want to get railroaded into a case I would have a very hard time winning or pleading out without setting off riots, I would present all the facts and applicable statutes in their entirety and use a GJ no-bill to cover MY ass.

          Despite what the racists here claim, this is NOT an easy case to win. As I said 24 hours after this story broke, if the arrest was lawful, everything on the tape was lawful. Proving it unlawful beyond a reasonable doubt is a VERY hard thing to do with the parts of the file we ALREADY have access to.

  24. avatar Cruzo1981 says:

    Barr doesn’t have time for this nonsense. He’s going to be dealing with Obamagate here next week!!!!!!!

    1. avatar Miner49er says:

      Hilarious! Yep, after 3+ years, will finally see criminal prosecution of Obama, Hillary, Biden, etc.

      Oh yeah, blimp-o Barr is sure to find the evidence… someday.

      Meanwhile, keep donating to trump so he can lock her up!

      1. avatar Dude says:

        The Party of Love and Kinship is now fat shaming? That you Pelosi?

      2. avatar pwrserge says:

        You’ll either see prosecutions or you’ll see summary executions. Their choice.

  25. avatar Barry Hirsh says:

    Not a federal issue.

    1. avatar Chief CCCP Censor - PwNPRserge, the story of two men in conflict with their sexuality, debating guns and politics while wearing leather chaps says:

      No, it’s a Chief Censor/Pwrserge issue, it’s way above the Federal level.

  26. avatar Blake says:

    Chief Censor and POSserge can both kiss my butt cheeks. When you’re both done posting useless, repetitive comments, maybe you can go finish Soros.

  27. avatar Nanashi says:

    Attacker charges peaceful man holding firearm and tries to grab firearm, then gets shot trying to steal a firearm. Everything else is 100% irrelevant and a distraction.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Not quite… The legality of the arrest is a matter of fact for a jury. I think the evidence is there to support it, but that’s just my opinion. It’s, at best, a TOUGH case to prosecute.

      1. avatar Nanashi says:

        No. Whatever the men who were attacked intended to do after talking to the attacker or why they asked to talk to him is irrelevant. The attacker charged a man who was holding a firearm and got shot while trying to grab the gun. Period. The ONLY reason this is anything other than a defensive gun use of the day is the media is eager to instigate a race riot.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          The story might change if it can be proven that the shotgun was pointed at the guy as he rounded the truck. Or was it just a low ready position before the guy charged him? I haven’t seen this answered.

        2. avatar Miner49er says:

          Why have the shotgun out at all if all they wanted to do was talk with the victim?

          McMichaels knew Arbey, knew he had never been convicted or charged with a violent crime but they still had firearms in hand as they accosted him.

          They menaced him with the firearms in order to successfully detain him, they’re going to prison.

        3. avatar Dude says:

          I just think the details matter.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          “Why have a shotgun?” Because they’re not retarded enough to think that a convicted felon confronted while committing a felony that will put him behind bars for the rest of his life will be cooperative enough to discuss things peacefully.

        5. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

          Again, please provide support for your claim of 2 prior felony convictions.

    2. avatar Huntmaster says:

      A guy jumping out a pickup truck in the middle of a residential street with a shot gun his hands, not in a case, scabbard or even on a sling is no different than a guy who jumps out and unholsters a pistol. I was taught that out in the field when you cross a fence, you unload the shotgun first. Jumping into or out of the truck with it loaded would have gotten my ass beat. In my neighborhood if you get out of a pickup truck just to talk with someone, it’s customary to leave the pistol in the holster and the shotgun in the trunk.

      1. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

        Possibly violating hunting laws against having a loaded long gun in the motor vehicle.

  28. avatar Chief, Serge, Debbie, Ron, Random names, and newbies who only comment for one article then disappear are all trolls and need a ban hammer. says:

    I think it’s time for TTAG to regulate the comments. Not even sure who is who and how many accounts they have, but a couple things are for sure: The ones who come just to say “Trump this (pro or con)” are fucking annoying, and the swapping of names is childish. Pretty sure there are at least 2 people who are commenting as 5 different names. Maybe even a like/dislike to weed out whether or not their comments contribute to anything. Pretty sad. You just can’t trust people to be civil, especially when it involves anonymity.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Son, I’ve been on this site with the same avatar for almost a decade. Try harder.

      1. avatar Montana Actual says:

        Things change. And just because you have been somewhere for a period of time doesn’t change that. And did you just assume that commentators gender? lol. Try harder, son.

        1. avatar Paul says:

          Montana actual? Somehow – I doubt that we attach the same significance to that title. 794?

        2. avatar Montana Actual says:

          Wut? So, you are cool too because you got to use actual on comms? Cool story bro.

    2. avatar Dude says:

      “Not even sure who is who”

      Zero self awareness.

    3. avatar Hydguy says:

      Ironic that someone made up a throwaway name to post this whiny troll screed about people possibly making up throw names to troll.
      Good job setting the example.

  29. avatar Huntmaster says:

    In my neighborhood and I can only speak for my neighborhood, if you want to speak with somebody, it’s considered customary to leave your pistol in the holster and the shotgun in the truck. If you feel uncomfortable doing that, it’s probably better to leave that conversation to the police.

  30. avatar burley says:

    My problem with this is 2 fold: firstly, the headline reads as if the entier GA House signed a letter, then you read to find out it’s only 14 people. Secondly, the fact that the GA AG is asking for federal help is an indicator that HE is unwilling to do his job. Under no circumstances can asking the Feds to take care of this will end up working out in the favor of GA citizens. GOV is gonna DO something; something violent, oppresive and wrong-headed.

  31. avatar Huntmaster says:

    Clearly says “Entire Georgia US House Delegation”. IE: All of the Georgia Representatives to the US house of Representitives. They have 14. The AG want’s to avoid even the appearance of a cover up. This is the best way to do that. I think Arbery’s family, friends and neighbors, would probably feel better if the feds were involved after the previous back room deals.

  32. avatar Peter Gunn says:

    Local Breaking News here in North Florgia: GBI Arrests William Roddie Bryan on charges of Felony Murder and Criminal Attempt to Commit False Imprisonment. Bryan is the individual who took the cell phone video of Arbery’s shooting.

  33. avatar Miner49er says:

    2010 Georgia Code
    § 16-5-41 – False imprisonment
    O.C.G.A. 16-5-41 (2010)
    16-5-41. False imprisonment

    (a) A person commits the offense of false imprisonment when, in violation of the personal liberty of another, he arrests, confines, or detains such person without legal authority.

    (b) A person convicted of the offense of false imprisonment shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years.

    The investigators will look at Bryan to find out exactly what his involvement was. Was he an accomplice before during or after the fact? He provided the video to McMichaels, who released a heavily edited version to the media.

  34. avatar James Campbell says:

    And to put a bow on this topic…..

    “Barry Hirsh says:
    May 20, 2020 at 22:01
    Not a federal issue.”

    This, times 100,000,000. 😄

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