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Robert Farago

Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

0 thoughts on “Emeryville, CA Police Chief Ken James: “A Gun Is Not a Defensive Weapon””

  1. So 2800 murders involving firearms in 2011…some of the strictest gun laws in
    the nation…How’s that working for you? I guess we need more laws that we are
    unable to enforce.

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  2. I love that picture. It warms the cockles of my heart to think about how much it burned Rahms ass to have to send it. It truly does.

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  3. Those idiot Dems really DO want to start another revolution, don’t they?

    Joe Biden, in a speech Wednesday night, Vice President Joe Biden imploring House Democrats to continue to fight for gun control legislation: “It is clearly within the right of the government to determine what type of weapons can be owned by the public.”
    No, Joe, it is NOT within the right of the government. The Constitution SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS the government from infringing our right to keep and bear arms. You, Obama, and all of your cohorts in crime should be removed from office for violating your oaths of office.
    Government has no rights. It exists, with the consent of the governed, SOLELY to PROTECT, not to destroy, the rights of the people.
    It’s high time that We the People withdraw our consent to be governed by these oath-violating tyrants

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  4. Nick definitely gets the award for the coolest Pmag ever. He’s alright even if he won’t do an FNH-FNS-9 review. I can’t say I’m shocked that Nick’s favorite rifle is a 300 BLK.

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  5. The Chief is a politician in a uniform, and I bet he’s great at reviewing paperwork in his air conditioned office. I’ll go elsewhere for tactical advice.

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    • On the original YouTube video, comments and ratings have been disabled. The “experts” don’t want or need your feedback. They already *know* the best course of action, and that course is a whole lot more gun control.

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  6. Neighbors hearing shots fired and two women screaming, rush to the windows and see 2 gangsters shooting up their paper delivery people! They grab guns and fire back at the bad guys, perforating their unmarked car and their bodies. They call 911 and ask for assistance for the injured women. Only then do they find out the 2 DRT’s are cops. The 8 neighbors who shot them are in for a long ordeal, but the community is calling them hero’s.

    That is how the story should have developed in a sane world.

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  7. He might as well have just said “We use our guns to force compliance.” Now, we know that’s true, since all laws, no matter how trivial, are ultimately enforced by the barrel of a gun, but nobody ever comes right out and says it. I suspect there will be a “clarification” coming.

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  8. It is not possible to take his statement out of context, it is not possible to misunderstand him. His statement is clear and unmistakable. This man is a disgrace to my profession.

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    • Don’t let it bother you. Your “thin blue line” gets kinda pink and squiggly with a few breaks in it as it passes through the Bay Area. I think it’s something in the water…

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  9. Correction: Since last spring DHS has put out contracts for 1.6 billion bullets [sic*]. That doesn’t mean they have taken delivery on 1.6 billion bullets [sic*]. The contracts are written to purchase “up to 1.6 billion rounds over the next 24, or 36, or 48 months.” That’s not the same thing.

    *Where are the contracts for powder and brass? 1.6 billion bullets isn’t going to do anyone much good alone.

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  10. The answer to inner city violence is to arm the victims, not to listen to them ramble on about how guns are bad.

    Give them all a Hi-point, 50 rounds, and 2 hours of range time.

    That’s welfare that will work for America.

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  11. Alan, great post. You wrote about having a ‘rational’ dialogue. The gun-grabbers are seeking to aggressively capture and own the phrase ‘common-sense’ to be associated with their cause and ideology. Everyone wants to believe they and their side have ‘common-sense’. People don’t want to be opposed to the owners of ‘common-sense’. I think the pro-gun RKBA community needs to start using the phrase ‘common-sense’ in our own way to promote our values. I believe we need to aggressively dilute the propaganda power of the gun-grabbers misuse of ‘common-sense’.

    I’m a proud supporting member of the SAF, OFF (Oregon), and JPFO. Thank you for all you are doing.

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  12. Truly incomprehensible. While we all hope the victims win the lawsuit lotto, the reality is that TAXPAYERS are the ones footing that bill. These “cops” should be in prison.

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  13. “Including illegal immigrants”

    I suspect that when the “push comes to shove” time arrives the current White House Administration will provide guns and ammo to the illegal immigrants to help them secure, control, and pacify American citizens. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Obummer providing shooting lessons to the illegals now that we all know what a shotgun shooter he is.

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  14. takes some serious balls to say that after the LAPD just lit up 2 innocent women like the 4th of July in the worst case of negligence I can think of… ever? (assuming it’s not just outright criminal behavior)

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  15. First I would like to thank Mr. LaRue for the actions he has taken, I think it sends a strong message. I would also like to say anyone that has a LaRue Tactical on order, or is thinking of ordering the wait is worth it. I have a 7.62 OBR (16″) and I can not tell you how much I love this gun, I have shot 5/8” MOA @ 100 yds, and there customer service is great also.

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  16. I found this comment about Ken James on the CalGuns site:

    “If there’s a Brady gathering, he’ll be there – on city time. He showed up to the DOJ hearing on microstamping with “gee this is a good thing” comments which had nothing to do with regulatory adoption.

    If he keeps getting more press time, his diminutive non-martial appearance will likely attract criminals to Emeryville streets – they probably figure they can win a footrace with a bearded midget in Birkenstocks. (True, I’ve never seen him in Birkenstocks – but it certainly would fit the profile.)”

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  17. I think the Heller and McDonald Courts might respectfully disagree with Chief James. Presumably he took an oath to uphold the law. Might be helpful if he knew what the law actually is. Just a thought.

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  18. Immediately to the right (left in the picture) is the Mayor of Los Angeles, son of an illegal and proud sponsor of the largest sanctuary city in America. Illegals came, had many anchor babies and now they vote and hold office. We did this to ourselves by allowing our elected “officials” to remain in office after neglecting their responsibility to keep our borders secure.

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  19. If Republicans had any balls whatsoever, they’d attach amendments disarming the government to each and every one of these bills.

    After what we’ve seen in California this week, clearly we cannot trust the police with guns.

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  20. Someone needs to lay off the Mexican Happy Grass.

    How this guy is a cop is beyond me. I barely know how someone so stupid could have survived for so long. You’d think natural selection would have snuffed him out by now.

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  21. prosecuting criminals who misuse firearms; securing our schools; and fixing the broken mental health system that keeps dangerously ill people on the street.

    Criminals are prosecuted.

    Why both to spend billions to save a couple dozen kids out of 2.4 million deaths every year.

    And although the NRA likes to say they are all for freedom, they are calling for the indefinitely incarceration of people who have not committed a crime.

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  22. A3653- Criminalizes purchasing or owning weapon if person has previous conviction of unlawful possession of weapon.

    Thought that was illegal already.

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  23. I get it. When the Marines repelled the Germans in the Belleau Woods in 1918, that was an OFFENSIVE action! Same with Khe Sanh. Thanks for clearing that up, chief. I’m totally going to get an A+ on my next history test.

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  24. Amen a great wright. I agree 100% with you. Nick Robert give this man a posting on this blog and a gun shop gift certificate. I love good old logic.

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  25. People have given me a snootful of attitude about my comments on cops here on TTAG.

    Want to know where I learned to have an attitude about cops?

    In the SF/SJ Bay Area of California, where you get to meet public employees like this all day, every day. Ken James isn’t “the exception,” he’s the rule. How do you think someone of his hat-sized IQ got into that position? He’s dispensed this crap all the way along his career. He’s been given awards and accolades by the California Police Chiefs for his “tireless” work against “gun violence.”

    His attitude (and his feckless disregard for real world facts) are common currency there. No beat cops step forward to counter this pablum, either. If they’ve been employed in the Bay Area long enough, they buy into the “party line.” I know shooters who have had their guns seized in traffic stops from trumped-up charges that would have cost them more to fight in legal fees than the gun was worth – so the cops get to keep a nice rifle or shotgun they took by abuse of authority.

    Frankly, I’ve pretty much had it with cops. They’re worse than useless – they’re expensive and useless. And clowns like the one depicted above are just more examples of why we’d be better off legally, fiscally, constitutionally, without police.

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  26. Yo’ not mah diddy! I think I pronounced that correctly. This is like the khmer rouge calling government uncle. So sick and demented, he like your father? Really.

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  27. List of the 10 bills
    Fixed magazines (Steinberg): Prohibit the future sale, purchase, manufacture, importation, or transfer in California of semi-automatic rifles that can accept detachable magazines. This legislative action decisively closes the loopholes that have allowed the gun industry to flood our communities with rapid-reload battlefield weapons.

    High Capacity magazines (Hancock): Ban possession of large capacity ammunition magazines over 10 rounds. This legislative action decisively closes loopholes that have allowed the gun industry to enable the assembly and home-modification of 10-round magazines into larger capacity magazines.

    Bullet button (Yee): This legislative action closes the loophole that has allowed the gun industry to flood our communities with modification tools to rapidly detach and replace magazines from semi-automatic rifles.

    Shotgun Definition (Jackson): This legislative action updates the definition of a banned shotgun with a revolving cylinder to include the new technology of a shotgun-rifle combination.

    Requires Ownership Record of all Guns (Steinberg): Applies ownership records consistently across-the-board, ensuring all firearms are recorded, and ensuring that no firearms of any classification are legally accessible to prohibited persons or persons without a background check.

    Ammunition Purchase Permit (de Leon): Expanding on what Los Angeles and Sacramento are already doing requiring anyone wishing to purchase ammunition in California to obtain a purchase permit first, by passing a full and complete background check.

    Gun Loans (Block): This legislative action prevents unregulated gun loans, with exceptions, including hunting. To limit legal accessibility of weapons to prohibited persons or persons without a background check.

    APPS Expansion (Leno): This legislative action prohibits individuals on APPS from residing in a home with any weapons. Expand the APPS list by adding more than two DUIs, other crimes.

    APPS Enforcement (Leno/Steinberg): This legislative action authorizes DOJ to use existing DROS funding to eliminate the 19,000 backlog of individuals on APPS.

    Fire arm safety certificate (Block): This legislative action will establish a safety certificate for handguns, mirroring the training currently required annually to lawfully carry a concealed weapon (CCW).

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  28. At the rate at which Dear Leader’s blowing what little money the government has, we can expect much of this ammo to be sold off as surplus after his term ends. Here’s to waiting for cheap ammo four years from now!

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  29. Reports that the LAPD blasted some 40 rounds at the newspaper delivery vehicle are alarming. Why do the police need more than 10 (7 in NY and other prisoner states) rounds to a “clip”? If you can’t hit what you’re aiming at with 10 / 7 rounds, I think you need more training!

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  30. And this is why civilians can’t be trusted with guns.

    If I were a slightly balding black man with a beard in California I would take a vacation in Canada until Dorner is duly executed by California LEOs. Lets face it, at this point Dorner could come out of his hiding place naked, in handcuffs, holding a white flag in his teeth and he is going to get shot 300 times. (Shot 300 times, shot at 3,000.)

    Maybe since our Emperor, Barrack the Great, Peace Be Upon Him, has declared he can execute American Citizens without trial, we can just smoke him with a Predator and save the innocent by standees from stray rounds.

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  31. I just bought one of these and I like it. I suppose it’s always better to have the biggest gun, but I fail see why a 22LR is considered inadequate for close range self defense.

    I think being hit by one of these bullets would take the fight out of just about anyone. If it’s going to be an ongoing gun battle, yeah, I would wish I had a 44 mag. with a long barrel and a scope.

    For me it’s what will I actually carry, and even this little automatic is at the upper edge size wise of what I would call concealed and comfortable to carry in the summer heat wearing jeans and a T-shirt. The Taurus seems well made and I like the fact it has a safety rather than just relying on the double action long trigger pull to prevent firing as many small automatics do. It’s even Made in America, according to what is stamped on the barrel. That might mean “assembled in America”, but that’s better than nothing.

    Still, I want one of the tiny North American Arms revolvers which I could comfortably carry all the time.

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  32. Hey, how many LAPD and pals does it take to catch 1 ex cop? (Hint: more than you think). If they keep up the indiscriminate shooting hey may need to borrow some of DHS’s ammo. This is not a man hunt, it’s a kill squad. I think he did the crimes, but isn’t there supposed to be a trial before he’s executed? If this is how the LAPD go about the “capture” of a suspect that was one of them, how do you think they would treat, ooh, say a civilian?

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  33. Nice guy.

    Doesn’t matter. Recoil is shot.

    They’re going to need to do some exemplary service promoting the Second Amendment to rehabilitate their offensive past behavior. Underwriting a landmark legal case against the New York State law, for instance, would go a long way to restoring their reputation.

    Hiring a semi-famous shooter as editor to rehabilitate themselves and add gravitas? That’s laugh out loud funny there.

    A friend brought along a copy of Recoil. I told him what happened earlier and he said it would be the last copy he would pick up. I did notice a paucity of advertising as he pawed through it.

    John

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  34. I would take the writer’s comment a bit further by saying that rifles and shotguns are completely unsuitable for the overwhelming majority of people. Rifles and shotguns simply produce too much muzzle blast, which can disorient you and put you at a serious disadvantage if you miss an attacker with the first shot or there are more than one. It might be fine using a shotgun if you’re a cop and regularly do live fire exercises in close quarters and get used to being rattled by the blast, but civilians usually can’t do this.
    Get a handgun and professional training in defensive shooting and practice until you can consistently make t-zone shots at 50ft from any position. I know, most self defense shootings occur within 20 ft, but don’t forget about the fact you will be scared and pumping adrenaline if you’re ever attacked. That’s why you should practice at a greater distance.
    Stay away from magnum calibers and .45 autos, as they produce severe muzzle blast. A 9mm is quite sufficient, but even a .22 will work if you can shoot it well. Don’t make the mistake of choosing ‘more power’. I’m 6’5″ and 280 lb and I wouldn’t do it.
    What if your attacker is wearing body armor and you have to make a head shot? You want the gun you can shoot most accurately.
    If you want to be extra safe from a legal perspective, buy the exact same pistol and ammo used by your local police.

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  35. This is a tragic story. Dont think or read about it- practice! Anyone one who is ccw’ing can & should practice this scenario. At the range with a partner and mirror practice all of the scenarios. Use your regular carry holster and gun. High noon draw down, straight up duel, bg has gun drawn, random draw, etc. Ive done it in classes, where you need to score a center mass or head shot to win. I don’t believe in this personally, first hit wins in my book. You will win some, lose some, but will definitely get faster and get better. You will also stop carrying a gun with a safety, ditch slow holsters and learn how to move while shooting.

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  36. I open and comceal carry all over NC. Its a right I wish more people would exercise. Open carry prevents crime in a lot of cases, and the sheep need to realize that. Its sad that the mere sight of a gun throws everyone into a panic. Have they invented a POCKETABLE COP yet? Everyone seems to feel safe when there are no cops around….why?

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