El Paso Walmart shooting WASR 10
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As many reports yesterday indicated, the 21-year-old Allen, Texas man who opened fire at an El Paso Walmart store posted a rambling manifesto online just before his attack. In his anti-immigrant, anti-corporate/technology, pro-environmental views, he was clearly sympathetic with and inspired by the New Zealand mosque shooter, as was the Poway synagogue shooter.

Here’s a brief section of what the killer wrote about his choice of weapon:

Main gun: AK46 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this.

8m3 bullet: The bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62×39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost of penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not nearly as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and may still be with it.

The other gun(if I get one): the ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as the AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to fragment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but I wanted to explore different options. The ar15 is probably the best gun for military applications but this isn’t a military application.

This will be a test of which is more lethal, either it’s fragmentation or tumbling.

I didn’t spend much time preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have to do this before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto.

Manifesto posted by the El Paso Walmart shooter shortly before he murdered 20 people and wounded another 26.

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  1. Hopefully the next time we hear about him will be an announcement that he was executed on page 10 of their local paper.

    Also… inspired by New Zealand Walmart attacker?

    • Guaranteed he gets a one way trip to Huntsville, TX, where capital punishment isn’t big news.

      • How about not grind him, but bait him on a hook and troll for sharks. More enjoyable for all concerned.

    • Take a few minutes and actually READ his “manifesto”.
      Then, can you post an intelligent argument stating exactly what he is wrong about, and why?

      I prefer this be a bloodless war. But, we ARE in the middle of a war.
      Regardless whether you believe we are or not, and regardless of what side you’re on.

        Sat Aug 03 2019 22:31:51 ET

        The Inconvenient Truth
        About Me
        In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and
        his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
        Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigator
        s, not me. I am simply defending my country from
        cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an in
        vasion. Some people will think this statement is
        hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic
        and cultural destruction brought to the Native
        Americans by our European ancestors, but this just
        reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the
        invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s lef
        t is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this
        attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispan
        ic community was not my target before I read The
        Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the po
        litical and economic reasons behind the attack, my
        gear, my expectations of what response this will ge
        nerate and my personal motivations and thoughts.

        • Political Reasons
          In short, America is rotting from the inside out,
          and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly
          impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our lead
          ers, both Democrat AND Republican, have been
          failing us for decades. They are either complacent
          or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the
          American public in our history. The takeover of the
          United States government by unchecked
          corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all
          the damage these corporations have caused, but here
          is what is important. Due to the death of the baby
          boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of
          the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The
          Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by
          pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open
          borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship
          and more to enact a political coup by importing and then
          legalizing millions of new voters. With policies li
          ke these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely
          become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a
          Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the
          Democrats is all it would take for them to win near
          ly every presidential election. Although the
          Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-
          corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize
          corporations over our future. So the Democrats are
          nearly unanimous with their support of immigration
          while the Republicans are divided over it. At least
          with Republicans, the process of mass immigration
          and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

      • Economic Reasons
        In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will
        make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under
        two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to
        it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most
        will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting
        millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the
        United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to
        the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In
        the near future, America will have to initiate a basic
        universal income to prevent widespread poverty and
        civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in
        itself is a source of civil unrest. The less depend
        ents on a government welfare system, the better. The
        lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving
        ambitions social projects like universal healthcare
        and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if
        tens of millions of dependents are removed.
        Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American
        Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why
        corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. They need
        to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporat
        ions make this worse by lobbying for even more work visa
        s to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come
        here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of
        foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support
        immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and
        unskilled jobs to keep wages down. So Automation is
        a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new
        migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that American
        s can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would
        replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants
        were deported. This source of competition for skilled
        labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse
        for natives as they compete in the skilled job mark
        et. To compete, people have to get better credentials
        by spending more time in college. It used to be tha
        t a high school degree was worth something. Now a
        bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college
        degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted.
        This has led to a generation of indebted,
        overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and
        their children have contributed to the problem, but are n
        ot the sole cause of it.
        The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is
        destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive
        burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by
        shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been
        a problem for decades. For example, this
        phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades
        old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the
        country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming
        and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste
        and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl create
        s inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how
        many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water of
        f our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my
        short life has led me to believe that the average A
        merican isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if
        the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The
        government is unwilling to tackle these issues
        beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration
        because more people means a bigger market for their
        products. I just want to say that I love the people
        of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next
        logical step is to decrease the number of people in
        America using resources. If we can get rid of enough
        people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.

      • I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this
        attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this
        before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no
        attack and no manifesto
        Statistically, millions of migrants have returned t
        o their home countries to reunite with the family t
        lost contact with when they moved to America. They
        come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum
        reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home
        countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will
        provide. This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of
        millions of baby boomers. This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not i
        n their interest to continue piss off Americans. Corporate
        America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just
        shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break.
        Personal Reasons and Thoughts
        My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will
        likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of
        the local and state government of my beloved Texas,
        changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup
        which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. If you
        take nothing else from this document, remember this
        : INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the
        shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers
        have endowed me with the rights needed to save
        our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to
        repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch
        their countries burn.
        America can only be destroyed from the inside-out.
        If our country falls, it will be the fault of trait
        ors. This
        is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this
        isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation.
        America is full of hypocrites who will blast my act
        ions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other
        countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause.
        People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of
        thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is
        okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a
        whole lot less. Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow
        Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are
        shameless race mixers, massive polluters, haters of
        our collective values, etc. One day they will see error
        of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save
        it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that.
        I am against race mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also
        because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd
        generation Hispanics form interracial unions
        at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity
        is largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as
        stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake
        weaker and/or undesirable ones. Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will
        take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering
        all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been
        here at least as long as the whites, and have done
        as much to build our country. The best solution to
        this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each
        race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting
        each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).
        My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by
        the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of
        the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death
        penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not
        going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’
        m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow.
        Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfll
        your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security
        targets. Even though you might out gun a security
        guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor,
        training and numbers. Do not throw away your life
        on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day.
        My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest
        predate Trump and his campaign for president. I put
        ting this here because some people will blame the
        President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media
        will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous
        for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.
        Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just
        the beginning of the fight for America and Europe.
        I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country
        from destruction.

  2. This guy seems like an idiot, not an operator. How did this asswipe pull this off. Twenty people dead and no one in a position to do something, in Texas?

    • Yeah, this isn’t Texas, it’s El Paso. Mexicans here are meek socialist sheep. Government protection is their first and last option.

      • I’m pretty sure the mall was a gun free zone. The Walmart was part of the mall therefore also a gun free zone. Just because it’s TX doesn’t mean every private business allows you in with your weapon.

    • Pretty easy to get “lucky” when the mass majority of your targets are unarmed and running away.
      Meanwhile, the ones who ARE armed and outgunned aren’t in a favorable firing position, or aren’t motivated and trained to be proactively stalking the guy because they have no idea how to judge his movements.

    • This is a big win for gun control. It wasn’t California or NY where a “good guy with a gun” can’t be found. Based on reputation, there should be one in TX every 5 feet.

      • Not if there are “30.06” signs posted. Areas so posted are legally enforceable “gun free” zones under Texas law.

        Legally armed citizens violating the “30.06” prohibition face arrest, loss of firearms rights, fines, and jail time.

        Any owner of a place of business that posts such signs should be held responsible and liable for the safety of their customers.

        • Yes, the owner or proprietor should be held liable, both civilly and criminally. Sad to note though, such holdings are things that will not happen, sad to note.

      • Yes but as Cgray points out, it was El Paso. Sadly there are now parts of Texas that defy it’s long standing heritage.

        • And sadly there are now quite a few parts of United States that also defy our long standing heritage.

      • When the anti gun Joe Strauss retired, he had Bonnen put in as his replacement which always means more of the same. Bonnen was the one that blocked the highly supported Constitutional Carry bill that we had up for discussion. If this had passed, there is a good chance that there would have been armed citizens there. There are many that are aware that the state issued permission slips to carry can be rescinded by the next liberal administration and would also furnish then with a database of some gun owners. neither our Governor , Lt. governor , nor attorney general went to bat for us.

  3. Take young impressionable men that are disillusioned, enrage them and then serve up a boogie man…not all that different of a playbook than ISIS uses from a 10k ft perspective.

    • Agreed. It seems extremist movements across the world are working more like late era Al Queda and ISIS. Simply use useful idiots by encouraging them attack via online radicalization. Outside of the normal gun control screaming, I’m quite confident we’re now at the cusp of some extreme online censorship in the West. Something more on par with what China does.

      • That is a very astute observation. We have a crop of socially isolated individuals who are easily manipulated by an online puppet master. With no physical connection between the master and apprentice it is very hard to track him down.

      • Itll happen sooner rather than later. In addition to gun control, well get more censorship and repression of ideas. And of course this will eventually extend to *any* criticism of corporate giants, hordes of immigrants they lobby for to drive down the cost of labor, and growth in general. He’ll well probably see environmentalist groups being censored, mark my words.

        Liberty faces dark days ahead. Well have to fight really hard to preserve what we have.

    • “Take young impressionable men that are disillusioned, enrage them and then serve up a boogie man…”

      In this case, an ‘Orange’ baba-yaga (boogie man).

      And who’s feeding the hatred? Ray Charles could see who’s feeding all the the hate-and-rage, 24-7-365 for over 2 years straight now.

      The ‘Media’. *cough*

      Broadcast and cable all day, every day, spewing venomous hatred at the President of the United States, and more evilly, those that elected him…

      • It’s time for scum-ass Facebook to quit allowing these unhinged people to post their murderous intentions, without notifying law enforcement immediately.

        Facebook already rejects your posts if it doesn’t fit within their corporate beliefs, so they can certainly keep those objectionable comments from reaching the public, if they want to.

        It isn’t just Facebook, tho. Any type of media which has the ability to reach the public in any way, should be help accountable if it has knowledge of someone who has expressed an intention to cause harm to others, and does nothing.

        Censorship ??? Yeah, maybe it is; but you would certainly be in favor of it if some of your family members were killed, and it could have been prevented it by action by any one who had prior knowledge of some person’s destructive plans.

        It’s like the saying goes…” if you see something, say something.” We need to add ” if you hear something, DO SOMETHING.” Yes, it’s a fine line between Red Flag Laws and preventing those who want to do harm to others; and every precaution should be taken to separate those who wish no harm to others, and those who do. There are too many copycat wannabe’s out there, and it’s only going to get worse.

        We are losing our liberties because of people not acting, when, if they had, tragedies such as what has occurred this past weekend could have possibly been prevented.

  4. This will continue as long as a bloodthirsty media and soulless politicians continue to offer the murderers the infamy and fame they want.

    • …but Tarrant did go after Islamic immigrants and you won’t find very many ethnic Caucasian Muslim converts among people who grow up with Westernized cultural values. There are a few, like our very own US CAIR rep named Ibrahim Hooper, but those warped quislings are few and far between.
      Still waiting on the news from the Dayton shooting.

  5. “El Paso Walmart Shooter Inspired by New Zealand Walmart Attacker”

    That title does need some editing. There are no Walmart’s in New Zealand. The attack in New Zealand had nothing to do with any big box store.

  6. My understanding is that Mexican nationals were murdered. What are the chances we could extradite him?
    I imagine he’s been expecting the relatively comfy American judicial system.

        • How long will that take? And how sure can you be that it will actually happen?

          You think this guy surrenders peacefully if he knows he’s gonna get lost in a third world jail for as long as lives? The death penalty in Texas didn’t seem like much of a deterrent did it?

        • Maybe they’ll pin him with Federal hate crime murders and he gets the death penalty from the Feds. There go those pesky State appeals and that shortens the process.

    • Extradite him to Mexico? Where the crime wasn’t committed??? And the victims were illegal aliens in this country?….. Yeah that makes sense….. That corrupt pos country would set him free to come back here by way of the porous border…

      • I doubt they’d let this guy out, seems like he would be the one they kept around, the people the cartels and the government all hate you.

        The point is, for the wrong person, a Mexican jail could be a lot less tolerable than what this guy is banking on.

      • You assume that a border town can’t have visitors from another country shopping?

        I know people that come up from Mexico to shop at higher end stores in America. They go on a week long shopping spree. Then they go back to Mexico with all their new stuff.

    • A crime in America against Americans and now even justice is outsourced to Mexico? Maybe these political shooters have good points about the state of the West. 🤔

  7. I was shopping at Walmart yesterday,and (as always) I was wearing
    (IWB) my Kimber stainless TLE .45 Super. I ALWAYS carry a pistol,
    AND I keep a 12 gauge shotgun in the trunk of my car.


    • The 12 gauge shotgun is a good choice.
      The late General Paul Tibbets Senior who is famous for nuking Hiroshima keptba 12 gauge shotgun for home defense.
      Perhaps the best attribute of a 12 gauge shotgun is that it is politically correct. In spite of its potentially devastating firepower, imbecile judges and ignorant juries will perceive you as just a befuddled Elmer Fudd.

    • You would be better off with an AR15 in the truck rather than a shotgun. Just my 2 cents. Good on you for having something though.

    • Although your 12ga is a great choice for personal protection, it will be useless in the trunk of your car when you are in a store shopping. Master your pistol because it will be the weapon you will have on you when the fight begins.

    • You would be better off with an AR15 in the truck rather than a shotgun. Just my 2 cents. Good on you for having something though.

    • ”””””””””””I was shopping at Walmart yesterday,and (as always) I was wearing
      (IWB) my Kimber stainless TLE .45 Super. I ALWAYS carry a pistol,
      AND I keep a 12 gauge shotgun in the trunk of my car.

      BE PREPARED”””””””””””

      There is a complete fool born every minute. You with your little anemic pop gun would not last 1 second with a guy armed with an assault rifle wearing a bullet proof vest. He would beak out laughing when he saw your little pop gun.

      • Blaaaa the Impotent

        A .45 Super. ==== little anemic pop gun

        you know nothing about guns!!!!

        next you will tell us that 22’s are the best to kill deer??

      • Quote: “There is a complete fool born every minute. You with your little anemic pop gun would not last 1 second with a guy armed with an assault rifle wearing a bullet proof vest. He would beak out laughing when he saw your little pop gun.” Assault rifle is an oxymoron at best. Assault rifle vs Defensive rifle –the only difference is how they are used. I may have missed it but nothing I have read said shooter in El Paso was wearing a bullet proof vest. The shooter in Ohio was and according to the police the shooter was killed within 30 seconds of opening fire. Use cover and concealment to get a clear shot to his head – no bullet proof vest protection. That will pretty much end his laughing days.

    • Running outside to fetch your long gun sounds like a GREAT way to get drilled in the parking lot by responding LEO.

      Maybe you’re talking about if you’re in your car (with your long gun) and you come upon a shooter going through the parking lot on the way to the store. Well in that scenario I don’t think I’d criticize somebody on either choice they made.

      • The gunmen started killing people in the parking lot and entrance. There was at least 3 dead before he went into the building. Most of those killed were older people that can’t run so well.

  8. Breaking: NINE shot dead in Ohio(?) and a bunch injured. Murderer dead. TWO mass shooting’s in Chiraq with 7 shot and 5 shot separately-but the lamestream won’t care😫Why ask why? Harden the he!! UP!😡

    • I just saw that. I have a feeling with three of these things in a week, we will have a big fight ahead. Once the Democrats take back everything at some point, I have a feeling the legislation they might pass will make European guns laws sound nice, 2A be damned. They have already shown the constitution is not a barrier to them and the judiciary just falls in line in agreement.

      The guy in Ohio is supposedly used an AR, and of course that’s the big focus. Rather than focus on why we have people doing things like this? They all seem to be saying similar things to each other. Remove the gun and these people are still out there and have all the time in the world to come up with another way to kill large amounts of people.

    • It’s only interesting when the identity politics game can be played on the news.
      When homies shoot homies it’s somehow Trump’s fault, even though the homies are the majority demographic in the town and government, except for the police departments.

  9. Democrats will call for more gun control and loss of rights, a big reason for these wackos doing now is the Hullabaloo democrat’s are pushing to destroy rights and Constitution {Gun Control, etc}. IE: lose of guns equals failure in their mission

    • You should look in the TAPS act. Republicans want to spy on and arrest you before you become an active shooter. They want to confiscate your guns. They want to use DHS to do this.

  10. This guy is a murdering Leftist. Just like the Left wing terrorist group “Earth First” this killer also hated having too many people in the USA. He like many Leftists worry about “over population”.

    And like most self discribed Leftists, he has no children. The socialist progressive is the most violent political type. Three of the four US Presidents where assinanated by socialists. Booth was just your average racist.

    The Left will always lie about the facts. But they can’t hide from the internet.

    • Keep telling yourself that. Anything to ignore the fact that we are being infiltrated by fascists. Don’t know a whole lot of leftists that consider “race mixing”, immigration, and “white replacement” as reasons to kill Hispanics specifically, nor any leftists that say Republicans are their prefered party. Let’s instead latch on to two sentences in the manifesto so that we don’t have to do anything.

      • You can keep believing the USSR was a place of racial happiness between groups. You would be very wrong. The left has always been very racist. The fact that you have to go looking for it, to find it, and it’s not blasted on to TV screens only tells me that the left controls the media.

        However all you have to do is follow the things that antifa calls black conservatives when these black people show up at these protest marches. CNN will no show you masked white Antifa calling black people niggers. And beating them.

        But if you’re interested I can send you a link.

      • BTW
        It’s always interesting to me when the left likes to ignore their hero Democrat Senator Robert Byrd. The Klansman we used to hang black people from trees and burn crosses on a black person’s front lawn. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton had really nice things to say about him when he was alive.

        • The right likes to ignore that the U.S. was started by various white supremacists and for most of its history the system was setup to benefit whites. They deny that “white privilege” existed. The Republicans say white people are unfairly attacked by minorities, they counter with white pride.

          I say to Republicans and the right: Were the Democrats a white supremacist party that passed laws to benefit white people and suppress non whites? Was white supremacy actually a thing in America? Was the government/society setup at one point to hand out privileges only to whites? Was the police used as a political arm to attack minorities and keep them on the plantations or reservations? Did the government have policies of cultural genocide, aka forced assimilation?

          Because if the Democrats were KKK and white supremacists, you have to admit that America was once those things and can return to that. You have to admit white America did bad things to non whites. You have to acknowledge some of the complaints of non whites in America as legitimate, that it isn’t always racism.

      • You must one of those, self hating Liberal or conservative, it doesn’t matter, who like to ignore the racist actions of masked white Antifa calling black people niggers.

        Or does it only matter when an Asian gay man is beaten up by white Antifa people wearing masks?

        • Oh, I hate antifa, and the bigotry of low expectations is alive and well on the left, but that doesn’t make this guy a leftist, nor am I self-hating for wanting to rid my side of fascists. That would only make sense of I was also some kind of racist idiot, which last I checked, I am not. Tolerance of intolerance is what the left does. We should not stoop to that nor try to pretend it doesn’t exist.

    • The “right” wing identitarians argue that a lot of Mexicans in the U.S. causes a strain on American resources and economy. They want to send them back…

      They also counter the leftists by using global warming against them. They say more immigrants coming into America allows them to pollute more than they could back in their home country that isn’t so developed, thus contributing to climate change. This is why they take an eco protectionist stance. It gives them the power to argue against immigration and to control the minority populations, so whites can remain dominate (aka the majority).

      This eco stuff is what white supremacists use to fool people into thinking it’s all for the protection of our precious environment, when in reality it’s about maintaining control of the demographics.

  11. One whack job inspires another and it would appear one more in Dayton Ohio,perhaps the death penalties time is now.

  12. Then there’s the dude in Dayton, Ohio too.

    Getting crazy out there. Stay safe and “carry on” folks.

    • ””””””””””””’Then there’s the dude in Dayton, Ohio too.

      Getting crazy out there. Stay safe and “carry on” folks.=================

      Wake up dreamer, there is no defense from a guy with an assault rifle wearing a bullet proof vest, he would laugh at your pop gun pistol.

      • WRONG! The Muslim terrorists in Garland Texas had body armor and rifles. They were killed by a man with a Glock. FYI Glock doesn’t make rifles. Additionally most mass shooters dirt nap themselves as soon as they start taking incoming rounds.

        • Vlad’s not worth responding to. That’s why I generally don’t unless I’m feeling masochistic.

        • quote”””””””””””””””””””””””””””’WRONG! The Muslim terrorists in Garland Texas had body armor and rifles. They were killed by a man with a Glock. FYI Glock doesn’t make rifles. Additionally most mass shooters dirt nap themselves as soon as they start taking incoming rounds.””””””””””””””””””’

          History has proven that head shots are very risky with a very low success rate. Every defense instructor will tell you never to try and make a head shot especially under stress. In the Last Church shooting the next door neighbor was not even able to stop the maniac with his own AR15 rifle when shooting off hand. He have up shooting for the head and shot for the legs and even that did not stop the maniac. The Cop in Garland got very very lucky and he must have been almost on top of the shooters to hit someone in the head. The head is rounded and bullets are known to glance off skulls even when you manage to hit someone in the head.

          In conclusion your chances of saving yourself or anyone else by trying to take out a nut case with a bullet proof vest and and assault rifle are about as likely as wining your States lottery.

        • It is clear to anybody with even half a brain that it isn’t necessary to immediately kill someone in order dramatically reduce their ability to wreak havoc with a firearm. A .45 or a 9mm to the chest a glancing blow to the head or even a close one, in spite of a bullet proof vest will in almost any situation entirely change the dynamics of a shooter situation in favor of any potential victims.

        • I guess that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it but I would like to present a fact and MY opinion as a counter.

          Fact, 99.9% or more fatality victims in mass shooting have one thing in common and it is that they were not equipped or did not have time to return fire.

          My opinion is that I like my chances of survival a heck of a lot better with a “pop gun” vs a rifle in body armor than standing there like a goober with my thumb up my butt. I’ve never been shot, but I can’t imagine it’s pleasant. Even a .380 fired from a pistol that strikes arms, legs, shoulders, etc is NOT going to feel like a tickle and is going to impact the shooter. And I’m not limited to one shot so chances are pretty good I’m going to get a hit somewhere outside of body armor shooting at a moving target even in a stressful situation.

  13. These attacks occurring during a Presidential election season featuring seriously totalitarian anti-gun candidates, a Media run by the ‘Rat Party, and a near fatally wounded NRA, the semi-auto’s days are numbered. Enjoy your cucked Brave New World.

  14. Interesting that this mass murderer considers the 7.62mm caliber AK-47 bullet to be less lethal than the 5.56mm AR-15 bullet. He should explain this to all of the 300 Blackout enthusiasts.

    • I read this spiritually bereft idiot’s “manifesto”.
      He admitted he had no job prospects or work experience beyond the 8 hours a day he spent on the computer. He didn’t see any way to advance himself because he wasn’t interested in proactively looking for work, and we all know “W-O-R-K” is a four-letter word for some and earnings is how many justify their societal value and personal worth these days.
      What I saw was very little education beyond high school and no motivation to learn or teach himself beyond justifying his reasons for being an asocial phuckhead – AKA, another angry loser.

      • When people cry to me about not being able to find work, I frequently as if they have considered serving their country. Not only will you get a paying job, you can learn a trade that can lead to good things in the telecommunications industry, diesel and jet mechanics, computers, all kinds of things while also learning self discipline, teamwork and a solid work ethic. Oddly enough frw young people today seem interested. /sarc

      • That’s why white supremacists want to get rid of their competition.

        White people can’t compete so well against the east Asians. Hence why they are discriminating against Asians at universities and not allowing them in although they outperform the white and Jewish kids. They want to go back to the days when they [Republicans] tried to ban the east Asians from coming to America. Back then they banned the Chinese, which is how America got an increase in Japanese, but Japanese left or decided to stay in Japan after the government put them in camps and gave [stole] their property to whites.

        America would have a lot more east Asians if the white supremacists didn’t stop them from coming to America and owning property. Who knows how America would be today if a lot of Japanese, Korean and Chinese were here?

  15. He was clearly an idiot. I hope he shares a cell with some ms13 members. Reading that manifesto made me cringe and lose brain cells.

    I drove through El Paso the day before the shooting and was armed while doing so. I’m still shocked that given that much time and exposure to so many people he didn’t face armed resistance. This will definitely be heavily politically exloited by the anti gun crowd.

    • People said the Christchurch shooter was an “idiot” too. But he managed to get the government to play his little game and even give him more than he asked for.

      The guy is quite obviously along the same lines and many of our politicians will play his game too which greatly increases the chances of more people being inspired by this.

      It’s a grave error in judgement to write these people off as idiots or morons or racists. They’re playing a game most older people clearly don’t understand. One that once we agree to play we cannot win. ‘

      Besides, in both cases the shooter displayed a significantly better grasp of written English than a lot of supposedly erudite 2A advocates do.

      • Yep. Keep thinking these people are idiots, morons or whatever.
        I read the manifesto. Hate to say it but he has some good points.
        Difference being, I’m not going to start shooting up a public place because of what I believe in.
        This is going to continue to happen too.

        • I agree completely!!!

          I think he’s absolutely right in his argument against corporations and their bullshit game they play in lobbying for more immigration. And that will be dangerous once we have mass job losses due to automation, with hundreds of thousands if not millions of unskilled immigrants in this country, let alone american citizens.

          His fixation of hispanic demographics is actually supported by the data that does exist. Alongside overpopulation and irreversible environmental damage, which is *exacerbated* by increased immigration populations and urban sprawl and corporate consumerism.

          His “solution” however, was disgusting and repugnant and completely unacceptable. Unfortunately, he won’t be the last. Maybe well be seeing a new generation of monsters who are completely disillusioned with the ‘progress’ of society, corporate monopolies, and irreversible damage to the environment start to act out.

        • The problem with this guy and with the Christchurch shooter is the same.

          They take a bunch of facts and base an argument on those facts plus a bunch of unstated, but nonetheless real, assumptions. If you accept those assumptions then the logic of their actions is undeniable.

          To effectively fight that you have to expose the errors in the assumptions that form their premise. To write the shooters off as stupid or belittle them as racist means that you’re ignoring those problems and failing to point them out to people who may actually grasp the facts an accept the argument but not understand the nuance of why it’s wrong. They may well see themselves as being “in the same boat”, further marginalized by being called “racist” or stupid and buy in even more.

          Not to draw a direct comparison but look at how HRC’s “deplorables” comment backfired. She thought it was an insult but people wore Tshirts proclaiming said status. Oops.

          That was the twisted genius of the Christchurch shooter. The more you degrade his arguments in a dismissive way the more powerful those arguments become to his target audiences because a core part of that manifesto (and this one) is that “they” lie. “They’ll” say it’s racist, they’ll attack you over this and that. And so the time has come to move beyond words and to action. Violent action. That’s the real message, and it’s carried to a large extent by the knee jerk reaction the shooting is designed to provoke.

          So, the more you call this racist or stupid the more likely you are to convince some people that the manifesto is correct. That there are real problems and that “they” will just demagogue the issue. The more that happens the more parts of the writing look correct and some people will start to think that the shooter is right, it is time to move past words and voting and court cases.

          This is a messaging war. The Christchurch shooter understood that. The guy in El Paso heard that message, took it to heart and repeated not just the message but the action. If that snowball keeps rolling down the hill this could get out of control pretty quick.

      • The more I sit here and think about these shootings a few things have become clear to me. This is just me and agree or disagree, there are problems out there.
        Political, social and environmental problems are the root causes here to me.
        The environmental problem is not having to do with the climate change, weather, etc. It’s the environment you’re in.
        I don’t know who said it but it’s kinda true. “You are a product of your environment”.
        You can look at Chicago for this and I’m definitely not comparing this shooting to Chicago.
        Grow up surrounded by gangs, gang violence and there’s a better than average chance that you’ll be in the cycle.
        This person (no name) saw his environment was all Hispanic. They get everything and he gets nothing. He’s punished but they’re not. So on and so forth.
        There’s your environmental.
        Political is easy. The government is to blame. They let illegals come in to the US. They give illegals handouts. They’re to blame. They do nothing. Both parties.
        Social is basically environmental.
        Add in anger at that age and there’s your mixture for a bomb.
        What I’m expecting is someone from the far, far left to do this for one purpose only and to really demonize the President.

      • “It’s a grave error in judgement to write these people off as idiots…”
        Underestimate your enemies at your own peril, even if they actually are idiots.

        • The stuff they write in these manifestos is for the most part cut and paste crap off the internet interspersed with their psychotic babbling. Original ideas, well thought out and organized, is for the most part, something they are rarely capable of.

        • Huntmaster:

          They’re not writing a movie script. They’re trying to take advantage of a zeitgeist that is undeniably real. Trump, Brexit, the Yellowjackets are all less extreme examples of the fact that many in the West note serious problems with the Western world and the way that it’s run.

          These assholes seek to take advantage of that. Their message is actually a pretty deft attempt at that if you understand the target audience.

          Right here on TTAG there are fairly consistent posts about “Civil War/Revolution 2.0”. That’s the kind of anger these people seek to exploit by getting enough people to do something that the government cracks down hard and kicks off “the response”. The difference is that these shooters are really, truly trying to light the fuze that leads to that powderkeg.

          All they have to do is get enough unstable/angry people to act wrong to provoke a serious government response and then you can either say “hello” to some serious shit or kiss the 2A goodbye. Then you’ll have to pick a side in a confrontation that’s spinning out of control.

          That’s the position these assholes are trying to force you into. They don’t need much more success to put you in it.

      • So you are saying the legal gun carrying black man is a coward?

        Or are you saying the white police didn’t automatically shoot a black man carrying a gun. Since the cops when they saw his carry permit they then knew he was a good guy with a gun. And then left him allown. They didnt automatically arrest him. They knew it was ok to let him keep his side arm. Since this black guy is a law abiding black gun owner.

        I’m confused buy your comment. But thanks for posting this. The racist Liberal Left wing media doesn’t like to show positive images of blacks with guns. They only mention Black Guns Matter when they are forced to.

        • All the reports I heard about men that had guns on them say they all ran away over risking their lives to stop the gunmen. This story is one of those, but this black man saved those Mexican/Hispanic children from the white supremacist by exercising his human rights.

          This is one of the scenarios I tell minorities about when I try to change their minds on self defense. If they vote to get rid of guns white supremacists, like this gunmen, will be able to do whatever they want to non whites. Nothing will be able to stop white supremacy from returning to the level it was in the past when their grand parents were slaves or were forced to live on “reservations.” Never give the orange man your guns. Never give the next Hitler your guns. Go buy guns and train. Don’t let the tyranny of the majority enslave you again.


        • @User1, So you’re claiming this guy only shot mexicans? Because we all know a white supremacist would never shoot a fellow cracker, right? Give it up with your “white supremacist garbage.

  16. It all looks an awful lot like “Deep State ” put -up- jobs…Fanning the flames towards “Authoritarianism”. All this is way convenient…Like a Nationwide scale “MK Ultra style psy-ops” in progress….Promoting “Civilian Disarmament, Strict Government Regulation over Constitutional Rights, and an Authoritarian Police-State…” DemoCommies, and Some GOP Globalist RINOs have expressed this….And the low information voters (idiots who DON’T care.)….

  17. Once again we have a Right Wing Racist maniac that was brainwashed by “on line” Right Wing Hate Sights claiming that the white man is being threatened by people not of his particular tribe or religion. It is the same racist filth and nonsense that Hitler promoted in pre-WWII Germany.

    The U.S. like Ancient Rome is destroying itself from within with racial hate, bigotry , corruption and with blind greed destroying the very planet we live and breath on. History once again repeats itself for the final time before the human race becomes extinct through self destruction.

    Neanderthal Man living in harmony with his environment lasted 250,000 years while modern man lasted only 55,000 years proving it was Neanderthal Man that was actually the most successful form of the creature known as “The Naked Ape”.

    Of course the Republicans will do nothing to end the mass slaughter and carnage and as the mass murders ever increase during an election year it only guarantees that when the Dems take over in 2020 you will see draconian gun bans never before seen in the U.S. because when the Republicans could have acted in moderation they chose to do nothing.

    • Funny how someone with a self-chosen screen name that means the same thing to Turks as “Hitler” does to Jews is complaining about racism and tribalism.

      • To Any Mouse
        quote——————————Funny how someone with a self-chosen screen name that means the same thing to Turks as “Hitler” does to Jews is complaining about racism and tribalism.——————-quote

        As with most Right Wingers you know as much about history as you know about rocket science which is zero. Vlad Tepes was defending his country from an invading army of Turks. He was vastly outnumbered but managed to use a hit and run guerrilla warfare to defeat an army many more times more powerful than his own. Defending your country from an invader cannot be criticized even by a Right Wing history deficient person like yourself if his head is screwed on straight.

    • No amount of ‘republican moderation’ or comprises on behalf of gun owners is enough for the current slew of democrats.

      Stop with the bullshit

  18. Can’t legislate morality… Why do we let hysterical left keep making their same failed policies of the Democratic big city states? England banned guns, now they are looking to banning kitchen knives… It’s real simple, make it the law to make the actor part of the body count on site (handcuffs verify they were the actor and put one in the head) if they don’t beat you to the punch. Make fun of their lives and any that defend their perverse life choices… ie can’t get laid, didn’t make the team, can’t get a job, is a high ranking gamer, is a member of the loser left or right, is still living with parents… push for a solution not an excuse

  19. This process of killing will continue until we, as a society, start taking men’s issues seriously with all compassion and fervor we normally reserve for women. In a world that continues to denigrate men, to use men as some sort of disposable duct tape with which to fix problems, and that ultimately discards men when their usefulness has been exhausted it’s no wonder a fraction of the male population do not care anymore. Why should they? From media, to education, to everyday interactions with people all the signals men receive point towards, “we don’t care about you,” and/or, “you’re only valuable as a human doing, not a human being.”

    Our society has become so feminized that many men feel left behind, out of place, and alone in the crowd. These conditions are fertile grounds for raising killers.




    • Switch to decaf and deselect the caps lock.

      If this asshole had a backpack full of revolvers and simply dropped each one as emptied, would it matter? Would anyone not have been killed or injured?

      • For 20+ years we’ve been told by leftist politicians and their loyal press that the AR-15 is the “weapon of choice” for mass shooters. Today, after the long campaign of misinformation and propaganda, ARs are used in barely 1/3 of such incidents. But hey, keep up tthe campaign of lies, moron.

  21. All these mass shootings seem to appear more frequently after Trump became President? (There’s a laugh).The Trumper always has said that “I could shoot someone in NYC and never be charged (or something like that).

    He always talks about the U.S. being heavily filled with illegal immigrants of all ethnicity, especially the Mexicans. He seems to poison these individual minds by saying we’ve got to deport these rapists, killers, etc., etc. Then these goofy individuals probably would think “Hmmmm, maybe I’ll just go out there and kill me a bunch of these immigrants and maybe in doing so will help stop this influx of the immigrants from flooding into our country. Yeah right, I’ll be helping Trump”. That sounds like the Trump mentality.

    The only thing he would not say, but certainly would think to say, “after he’s jailed, I’ll pardon the SOB“.

    • “Yeah right, I’ll be helping Trump” Not flaming, but you’re very ignorant here. The shooter said in his own words that he felt this way before Trump. Plus, how would anyone think this could help Trump? The media is constantly looking for any line of attack on Trump. They will absolutely revel in this.

      • No Dude your the ignorant one. In case after case Right Wing Racist Nut cases were indoctrinated by Right Wing Hate Web Sites that operate in the same way the Islamic Fanatic web sites operate to convert people to their demented ideology. Trump has torn this country apart by ranting how the White Supremacists might lose their dominance over minorities and that minorities will become the dominate race and are all criminals . Its the same tactics Hitler used and we as a Nation are going down the same path to destruction. Just as Hitler destroyed Germany so will Herr Drumpf destroy America and everything America has ever stood for.

        • “Just as Hitler destroyed Germany so will…”

          Hitler, eh?

          The US VIII Bomber Command at RAF Daws Hill and the ground-pounders under Eisenhower would like to laugh in your face, son…

          *snicker* 😉

      • He is a white supremacist who was looking for a white man to lead him, that man was Trump. He wasn’t planning to attack Mexicans, he wanted to go after Democrats. However, once he heard Trump’s rhetoric, read the social engineering plan of the Christchurch gunmen and the Democrats pandering he decided that Mexicans are his new target.

        Those “send them back” statements from Trump worked like he intended. He got his supporters to chant “send her back!” Now he got a white male to massacre Mexicans. This is after he said he will start putting white males to death for attacking Jewish people. He stokes the flames of white supremacy then says he is going to bring back the death penalty to deal with white supremacists.

  22. This guy drove 600 miles to El Paso for a reason. We don’t know why yet. Is or was this WalMart a 30.06 place?? Just easier then a local Walmart??
    Who knows what goes through the minds of these type of sick individuals.
    AllI do know is. We will pay a price for these 2 fools in the last 24 hours.

    • He went there to kill Mexicans. He wanted to send them back to where they came from. He planned to attack that particular town and location.

      We know pretty much everything there is to know, but people don’t want to accept the truth.

  23. Da** Democratic television!! Of all the things that probably happened during this final act of a brain washed psychopath. The media is focused entirely on the firearm used. This idiot would have killed just as many if not more with s suicide vest or a jacked up 4×4. This basket of HELL soaked in gasoline that we call Earth is floating in a river of media corruption.

  24. They should bring back Drawing and Quartering to deal with these sub humans that commit these crimes. Look it up on Wikipedia.
    OK, this sort of medieval retribution might not fly but these creeps should be brought to trial as soon as possible and if convicted, executed at once without the possibility of parole. Their carcass should be cremated and the ashes desposed of in nearest garbage dump. Erase the memory of these scumbags forever.

  25. Just curious, did the El Paso Walmart sell guns on its premises? Ammo? Potential tools to fat back….hmmm.

    Anyway, I wonder how many gun sales have been made in El Paso since the tragedy. Anybody have any info on that. Just asking.

    Prayers to all in El Paso.

  26. Throw up your hands, stand still, let the man, or woman, shoot you. Get it over with. All is lost. Don’t fight back, resistance is futile. Is that about it? Confiscate everybody’s firearms, all the dead will be those that obey the law. These are no longer “isolated” shootings, they are full on terror attacks. By simply laying down our arms we can stop the killers among us? Good luck with that. Next? Most likely IED’s. Government reaction? Spread as much FUD as possible. Make more laws that criminals will ignore and make the rest of us even easier prey. Solution? Nothing. Travel at your own risk, join crowds at your own risk, accept the fact that as long as there are killers we are at risk, they are not going away anytime soon.

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