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Despondent Dems Retaliate Against Trump’s Power by Trying to Punish Gun Owners

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Across the country, voters disappointed with President Trump’s election are coping with their feelings in various ways.

Eight years ago, Hillary Clinton supporters comforted themselves through “alternative reality” websites based on the fantasy of Hillary prevailing in the 2016 race (here and here, for instance).

One of these, HillaryBeatTrump.org, included imaginings about the terrible fate awaiting the NRA in this alternative universe. A fake news item at the site writes how “President Hillary Rodham Clinton gave a fiery, furious, brilliant speech excoriating the National Rifle Association as ‘America’s leading terrorist organization,’ calling the group ‘a sociopathic group of pro-gun, pro-murder, male extremists whose ongoing support for violence poses the single biggest domestic threat to our national security,’” with fake-President Clinton “instructing law enforcement agencies to shut down the NRA, ‘as a terrorist organization that’s responsible for killing more Americans than Al Qaeda, Ebola, and heroin combined.’”

Now, according to Rolling Stone magazine, the most recent election has rekindled similar “fears and hurt and memories of what was previously,” with Harris voters struggling to process their candidate’s loss along with a “loss of identity, loss of agency and loss of voice” that accompany the feelings of “political grief.” “Experiencing grief and disappointment doesn’t make you powerless,” say the consultants quoted by the magazine, who encourage sufferers to “find ways to take that power back, to be an agent of change in your community.”

Rather than volunteering at the food bank or donating to local unhoused populations, as the article recommends, for many the reaction to the new presidency is manifesting itself as a commitment to impede the democratically elected president and his allies, often under the paradoxical guise of “protecting democracy.” This, predictably, includes stepped-up efforts to enact extreme gun control measures.  

In New Jersey, Assemblywoman Carol A. Murphy, a Democrat and “proud… Moms Demand Action Gun Sense Candidate,” has apparently decided that the state’s already draconian gun laws don’t make it hard enough for law-abiding individuals to acquire firearms.

On January 16, Murphy introduced a bill to amend the state’s handgun “permit to purchase” and “firearms purchaser identification card” laws to add new requirements.  

The current version of the law, N.J.S.2C:58-3, generally states that anyone who is not a licensed dealer must have a valid “firearms purchaser identification card” (FPIC) to “acquire an antique cannon or a rifle or shotgun,” including BB, pellet and black powder rifles. Another subsection prohibits a person from acquiring a handgun without a valid state-issued “permit to purchase a handgun” (PPH), and conversely, prohibits selling, giving, transferring, assigning or otherwise disposing of a handgun without the other party to the transaction possessing such permit, unless the “purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder” is licensed as a firearms dealer. The PPH only applies to a single transaction, so each handgun requires a separate permit, and state law prohibits more than one delivery of a handgun to any person within a 30-day period. Further, any transaction requiring either a PPH or an FPIC must be brokered through a retail gun dealer, who must record the details of the transaction, conduct state and federal background checks and may charge a fee of up to $70.

PPHs and FPICs are only issued by the police after an applicant satisfies the many requirements – fingerprinting, training, names and addresses of “two reputable citizens personally acquainted” with the applicant as references, a medical privacy waiver, payment of the applicable fees, and being found not to be disqualified under any of the 15 or so categories of “disabilities” listed in the law. One of these is the suspiciously elastic disqualification “where the issuance would not be in the interest of the public health, safety or welfare because the person is found to be lacking the essential character of temperament necessary to be entrusted with a firearm.” Although the law mandates a turnaround time of 30 days for residents, a 2022 court ruling found as a fact that permitting delays occurred in approximately 100 different jurisdictions, some taking more than a year, and that delays “continue to be widespread.”

This permitocracy, it seems, is still not enough. Assemblywoman Murphy’s bill, A5210, proposes adding, as a new condition to qualify for a permit or FPIC, that all of the applicant’s “household members” also provide fingerprints, and pass the background checks and the police investigation that determines whether any of the 15 disqualifying disabilities apply. A “household member,” as defined in the bill, means “any person over the age of 18 who cohabitates with an applicant for a handgun purchase permit or firearms purchaser identification card.”    

There’s no requirement that these household members have actual access to the gun or evince an intention to use the gun; the simple fact that the applicant shares a roof with other adults places these occupants on the same footing as the applicant, as far as the bill is concerned.

Left at a loss as to what this “guilty by association” amendment seeks to accomplish, readers need only go to the bill statement, at the end: “Under the bill, an applicant would be disqualified from obtaining a PPH or FPIC if the applicant resides with a ‘household member’ who is disqualified from owning a firearm.” Essentially, if the elaborate state law doesn’t succeed in preventing a qualified person from being eligible to acquire a gun, the state will attribute, to that person, the criminality, mental health commitments, protective orders and other firearm disabilities of the persons who surround him or her.

This proposal is, to put it mildly, breathtakingly ignorant and an affront to all fair-minded people. Not only is this bill, if passed, certain to fail under the U.S. Supreme Court’s Bruen test, no other constitutional right is made dependent on the status or merit of another individual. Imagine, if you will, stripping a citizen’s right to vote because he or she shares living quarters with legal non-citizens, illegal aliens, or convicted felons who have lost their franchise, or denying the right to freely speak, write and publish one’s sentiments on all subjects, because a person’s “household member” was intemperate enough to have a civil judgment issued against them for defamation or libel.

Even the radical fandom behind the make-believe world of “President Hillary” would have a hard time matching this kind of political lunacy.

Here in the real world, fortunately, the Constitution still applies, even to disappointed lawmakers experiencing political grief.

—Courtesy of NRA-ILA

44 thoughts on “Despondent Dems Retaliate Against Trump’s Power by Trying to Punish Gun Owners”

  1. I am sure NY will get around to it and they have a few potentially nasty ones under proposal but for the moment we are utterly consumed by ICE and USAID panic especially with respect to federal grants. Medicaid is probably next and my counterpart in the DOH hinted that should be amazing to watch.

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    • DOGE arrived at NIH HQ yesterday and right now is giving the NIH an enema.

      As for USAID ‘money laundering’ scheme and tax dollar funded ‘paycheck’ and slush fund and gravy train source for politicians and left-wing media and criminal/terrorist organizations and DEI and LGBTQ+ and planned ‘Parenthood’ and a whole lot more – its been gutted and billions of dollars, basically stolen from the tax payers, in Biden-Harris ‘secret’ spending for these things as they literally were ‘looting the treasury’ has been stopped … As of 11:59 p.m. ET Friday, “all USAID direct hire personnel will be placed on administrative leave globally, with the exception of designated personnel responsible for mission-critical functions, core leadership and specially designated programs,” according to a statement on the USAID website, which is back online for right now after going dark last week.

      For personnel posted outside the United States a plan is in progress “under which the Agency would arrange and pay for return travel to the United States within 30 days” and terminate “contracts that are not determined to be essential.”

      A direct hire is a government employee directly employed by the US government, as opposed to contractors, who make up a large part of the USAID workforce. Many of the contractors have already been furloughed or laid off. Essential personnel expected to continue working will be informed by Thursday afternoon.

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    • We are talking about New Jersey, the five families’ back yard. And the New Jersey Democrats are a legislative arm of the mafia.

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    • The same bunch of Gun Talking blowbags who bark at Defining Gun Control by its History are the same bunch who say nothing about the democRat Party owning the Legacy of Slavery, etc. The democRat Party struts around like they have no History to be ashamed of and they get away with it because they have nothing to fear from Gun Talking blowbags. To whom it may concern…if the aforementioned truths upset you you’ll only make yourself look more pathetic with a reply.

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      • the aforementioned statements don’t upset me but you constantly harping is annoying. so how about shutting your blowhag mouth. or hookup with Geoff and put it to a better use

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        • “so how about shutting your blowhag mouth. or hookup with Geoff and put it to a better use”

          I have a personal policy deb, the woman’s pleasure comes first, during, and after a thorough tongue-lashing… 😉

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        • “blowhag”

          Consider this nifty little term to be redistributed forthwith, specifically for the purpose of creating the following term by combining it with modern slang: blowhagmaxxing.

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  3. Rather than volunteering at the food bank or donating to local unhoused populations…

    Suggestion: If you’re using their preferred euphemism for homeless (or anything else) in a mocking manner, then it could use quotation marks to be clear. If you’re being serious, then please stop playing by their ever-changing rules. It drives me nuts when I see non-commie outlets use commie language.

    Fox News is the worst for playing by their rules. “Gender-affirming care” is a good example. No, it is not “gender-affirming.” It’s literally gender-denying. Nor is it care. They use specific language to control us. Don’t play along.

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    • By Fox News, I’m referring to top and bottom of the hour radio “hard news” updates. You can’t tell the difference between the way they talk and the AP.

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      • Any “mainstream” media should be treated as being sus AF.

        How much cashola did Fox get from .gov? I’ll bet you it’s a bit. They toed the line on a lot of shit for a long time.

        I basically considered them compromised by 2013. If it chatters like CNN, it’s fucking CNN.

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        • I also wondered if they got any, considering the recent revelations. Regardless of potential funding, it’s certainly a journalism problem. Most of the political pundits didn’t come from a journalism background. BUT most of the “hard news” employees did come from a journalism background which means they are very likely biased toward the left.

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          • Straight Arrow News. Just the news without the bias. They also have media misses from the left and right. Commentary also, but identified as such.

          • …most of the “hard news” employees did come from a journalism background which means they are very likely biased toward the left.

            Probably true given the J-schools such people tend to come from but more importantly, where such people tend to live, which seems to derange people over time.

            Regardless, Fox’s buy-in on gaslighting Americans against each other at the same time as the rest of the media tells me that they were part of the scheme on some level or another. The appearance of “Generational Warfare” never felt organic and always followed the old rules of propaganda that I’ve banged on about here for years.

            Now we find out that this was very likely exactly what I said it was and we can see the payment mechanisms for such nonsense. At the same time the BLS/Treasury/etc all have their story all apart and, mark my words, you’re going to see the lies go back many years farther than Biden (because that’s what the arithmetic says).

            IMHO, Fox may not have liked doing what they did but they did it regardless. Which is why the toed the line in the right places. They seemed to be quite well informed what they could say and what they couldn’t.

            Now, some of that may just be sources controlling the outlet but when that happens you know the person in question is is awe of their sources and not critically thinking about what they’re being told. They’re also either ignorant of, or playing along with, a very old and well known game.

    • Sometimes it’s funny. An after school group at my work calls each other “neurodivergent” in exactly the same way past generations of kids called each other “retarded.” They’ve even slanged it up with phrases like “god, you’re divergent” and “don’t be such a neuro you neuro.”

      One wonders what the next iteration of the term will be. If it didn’t cost money, jobs and create ever more bureaucracy it’d be funny watching idiots trying to change universally fundamental concepts with a simple term swap.

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    • Fox News increasingly has the feel of controlled opposition. Even putting aside the hard news segments and looking at the evening editorial shows, notice that a blatantly partisan bloviator like Hannity survives year after year, whereas the ones who really dig, and say what the power establishment really doesn’t want said end up getting canned.

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      • Late yesterday on the top or bottom of the hour radio news update, they said, “assigned female at birth.”

        The Left sets the rules, and everyone goes about normalizing this insane language that would have been laughed out of town a couple of decades ago. This is how they change the culture.

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      • Most major news in one form or another is controlled be it message or opposition and has been for longer than most people have been alive to see.

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      • …notice that a blatantly partisan bloviator like Hannity survives year after year…

        He says what he’s told to say. I’m old enough to remember that jackwagon outright lying and saying that voting GOP would get rid of the ACA at a time when there were not enough Senate seats up for grabs to make that possible unless Obama decided to help the GOP repeals Obama’s own signature legislation.

        Two tines, one fork, two wings of the same bird. Say it however you like. The establishment is the establishment and it sold you out many decades ago. Then it gaslit you against your own countrymen for over a decade with legal-ized propaganda.

        What, you think it’s a co-hink-a-dink that Obama green lit domestic propaganda in 2012 and that this is the same year Generational Warfare showed up with a vengeance, pushed by every major media outlet, and used to distract everyone from the fact that ab-so-fucking-lutely nothing from ’07/’08 was fixed?

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  4. The machine gun ban of 1986 has just been ruled unconstitutional. By a federal judge in Mississippi. And the judge was appointed by guess who???

    President Obama.

    Kaboom!!!

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    • Only “as applied”, not “facially”. That is, the ruling only applies to the defendant. Also, a little perturbed by the “not in public, only in the home” portion of the ruling.

      Still, better than nothing… Laws get chipped away a little at a time. But they tend to grow faster than they erode.

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      • They largely lack the foundational base they had for a century so they may sprout up like weeds but it will be a lot harder for them to take root if challenged

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      • Yes the ruling only applies to the defendant.
        But will the “gun community” support this individual personal machine gun owner???

        I suspect this guy is not a rich machine gun owner. Because those folks aren’t spending big bucks to go to court.

        The “gun community” would be happy with just muskets.

        “Exclusive: General Mark Milley, Pentagon approved directed-energy weapons for use on June 2020 DC rioters, source says”

        The Blaze Media
        January 7, 2025

        The “gun community” is very comfortable with only the government using 21st century weapons technology.

        No binary triggers for the common gun owner.

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        • Is there a donation section for the case prepared for an appeal? Know a few people that have been waiting for this topic.

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    • … if he can find the time. He was recently seen at a Porsche dealership in New Jersey, cleaning up his Golden Doodle’s turd pile off of the showroom floor while his Portuguese Waterdog eyed him mockingly.
      I hope he finds some lovely young lass to marry – and then wins everything in a divorce settlement due to his inability to consummate. Only then will ALL of his wishes come true.

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  5. Is this an example of “legislative reprisal”?

    To the shrieking dems, a gun owner is a Trump voter and needs to be at least discriminated against if not outright cancelled into a ditch.

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  6. I think the same standards should apply to those candidates for Congress, State or Federal. Just substitute knowledge of Constitution, tested for same, specifically the BORs, including those under the same roof!! Fail – Yer not on the Ballet!

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