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We recently reported that Remington is [finally] shipping replacement R51’s to customers who purchased the company’s first, entirely unsuccessful attempt at manufacturing the Pederson action sub-compact 9mm handgun. Under new leadership, Remington Outdoors has declared its intention to restore faded luster to its family of gun brands, tarnished by miserable Marlins, slam-firing 700’s and risible R51’s. Their RM380 was a good step in that direction. Is it too late? Do you trust Big Green enough to purchase a firearm from them? What gun brands do you trust? How important is customer service to that trust?

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  1. Meh… When I bought my 700, there were almost no Remington parts left in it after I was done. Basically, I was left with receiver, bolt, and barrel.

    • I should have just bought a R700 receiver and bolt, because I didn’t even end up keeping the barrel. Money well spent!

      Brands I trust: Sig Sauer, Savage, Ruger, Benelli, Browning, Beretta, TN Arms Co, Seekins Precision, and Cooper Firearms

      • For me, an assembled 700 ADL(?) was cheaper than a separate bolt and receiver. And the smith who bluprinted the action and mounted the Krieger barrel paid me for the Remington barrel, because he cuts them up, bores them out, and makes them into muzzle brakes. I was also using the factory trigger until the trigger recall popped up. Then I installed a Timney.

        • I pretty much don’t trust any particular gun maker, nor do I buy a gun prior to it’s first recall, or so-called second generation. Even Glocks stumble out of the gate.

          Oh, but except for the 870 I am so done with Remington. They can go back to typewriters as far as Im concerned.

    • You do know you could call up Brownells and order just those parts, right? You can get an action w/ a bolt, then decide which bottom metal you want to order, and then have a gunsmith hang a barrel on it and put it into the stock of your choice, right?

      • Yeah, but I preferred doing it over the course of a few months, one change at a time and still have a working rifle.

      • I know that now, but at the time it seemed like a good idea to just get a Rem 700 (left handed, of course). Shot it a few times and decided I might like a better stock. So I put a better stock on it. Then I realized maybe a better trigger would be nice so I had a better trigger dropped in. Then I realized I might like a better magazine system, so I put a new plate in with a Badger Ordinance M5 triggerguard drop mag. And then I realized that I didn’t particularly care for the stock barrel, mostly due to the twist ratio. So I had a new barrel fitted and had the action bedded.

        And that’s when you realize you should have just spent the money up front and bought a Cooper instead.

  2. Carry only SIG so far.
    Normally a P226 Enhanced Elite – 9mm, year round.
    Polo shirt covers very well.
    Garrett Silent Thunder STX 2.0 OWB holster.

  3. Brownells, Midway USA and Leupold are the folks I trust the most, especially the folks at Brownells.

    • Out of curiosity, what’s your opinion on German glass today. Schmidt & Bender, Khales, top dollar Zeiss, etc

      • I think Schmidt and Bender may make the best glass on the market. But I’m putting Leupold, Burris, and Bushnell on my guns with US Optics, La Rue, and Ken Farrell mounts / rails. American and Japanese glass on the top end get the job done quite well. S&B is great, but too pricey for me. YMMV.

      • I’ve found S&B to be fine, but you need to be a highly discerning user of optics to see the difference between S&B and the lower priced Euro-glass or high-end American glass.

        In optics, the amount of money you pay goes up geometrically as you near theoretical limits of optical systems.

      • You will never be disappointed with Schmidt and Bender. You will also probably never be able to tell the difference between it and the better glass from Leopuld or U.S. Optics.

  4. There are NO gun manufacturers that haven’t made mistakes, had QC issues, put out a few lemons, produced a design that was lacking, etc., etc. The difference between Remington and say Glock, is that Glock is a whole lot better at suppressing the issues and keeping problems quiet. How many revisions and generations of perfection are there? While I trust most major brands, I don’t automatically trust any gun until I have personally put it through it’s paces.

    • Bullshit. Glock (to use your example; I’m not a fanboy) has very few lemons, deals with them appropriately, and most importantly, their designs are actually good. Any mass-produced product is going to have a few lemons; it’s inevitable. Remington’s problem is that, first off, they don’t actually care enough to even pay lip service to reducing their lemon rate. And second, they knowingly released a broken product into the CCW market. Do NOT trust them.

      • I’ve worn out a couple of Glocks. They aren’t invincible. My Glock 35 needed new mags and a new recoil spring. My 27 needed a new recoil spring, striker spring, night sights, and new mags. Heck, the striker itself doesn’t seem to be as sharp as it used to be. It’s got somewhere around 35-40 K rounds through it with some Underwood and other “+P” loads. The Glock is a pretty cheap so it’ll probably be easier to replace the whole gun than to finish swapping out sights and worn parts.

      • Glock has had numerous issues over the years. The NYPD Glock 19 fiasco, G22’s that can’t shoot with lights attached, Gen4 extraction problems, G42’s that can’t shoot hot loads, etc., etc., etc. the list goes on and on. Glock has easily had their fair share of problems over the years, no matter how deep you bury your head in the sand. At the same time your ignorance of these issues proves my point at how good Glock is at covering up their issues.

      • How about you do a bit of googling yourself on the issues with .40 cal Glocks and more recently, the Glock 42. There’s a reason I waited to get mine after Glock did their silent fixes. Google ain’t hard sonny. 😉

        • Well, pops, since we’ve decided to call each other names, I never disputed that Glocks have had issues in the past or the present, only the statement about “suppressing the issues and keeping problems quiet.” Do you have evidence to support this claim or no? Since we’re talking about our own experiences, of all the handguns I’ve owned or fired, guess which brand have I never experienced a malfunction with? Sorry if you don’t agree with my trust of my Glocks. Have a great Sunday!

        • Hah! Now now, I won’t hold your youthful lack of experience against you if you won’t hold my gray hair agin’ me.

          Sure there’s reports out there – but you’ll have to Google them for yourself. I’m not your babysitter. There’s also a dearth of official notices from Glock about known quality control issues. So if you look at it the other way round than you’re presently gazing, that seems pretty clear that Glock makes corrections to their products without public acknowledgment.

          And I did say I own Glocks. I trust them fine. I just wait until the kinks are worked out on any firearm before buying it. 😉

      • Today’s Glock fans probable were barely a gleam in their daddy’s eyes when Glocks were splitting barrels and ka-booming on lead bullet reloads in the 80’s – back before Glock understood that people who shot a lot in the US reloaded. They also don’t remember the frame issues of the 40’s and 10mm pistols. Or the issues with FTE’s that caused Glock to retrofit a whole bunch of guns for the NYPD. Or… (insert other tales of Glock issues).

        • not a pistol problem but they did have the hard case that would depress the trigger and caused a few folks who kept their pistols loaded to loose a few fingers.

    • Statistically, at some point every manufacturer of anything will make a few bad ones, if enough are produced. Tolerance stack up, human error, etc.

      This is a very different thing than releasing a design that is fumdamentally flawed from the get-go. The flaw can be intrinsic or it can be a design which is supposed to be user-servicable but which can’t be without a high probability of mistaken reassembly.

    • Boy, did you stir up a hornet’s nest with this! Look, guys, nobody says Glock sucks, or tha the fundamental design isn’t more than sound, or that manufacturers can’t be forgiven for putting out a lemon now and then. The point this guy’s making is that Glock Inc. play it very close to the vest. When they identify problems in new pistols, they don’t take out an ad and send a letter to registered owners. They just…change the part. If you call up and complain, they might send you the “updated” (not “fixed” or “correct”) part. Or not. They are on the third generation (I think) of G42 frames. You would never know it unless you sleuthed all over the web like some crazy stalker. So yeah, Glocks are amazing pistols. Having grown up in a world without them, I am still gob smacked by their innovation. But, the COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM…well, let’s just say you have to remain a very informed consumer if you’re going to deal with them. Glock Inc. wouldn’t tell “fire” at you if your ass was burning.

  5. Quality is important; customer service is paramount.

    Having owned ARs from DPMS up through Noveske, I can say that even a budget minded shooter can afford high quality platforms and optics by saving, budgeting, watching for sales, etc. It takes time and patience but the payoff is worth it IMHO.

    Vendors who back their products and place their names as the reputation have earned my respect and hard earned monies.

    Larue Tactical and Noveske are the benchmarks for me; your mileage may vary.

  6. After the R51 fiasco and the 770 trash they came out with to compete in the low-end rifle market, it will be a while before I look to Remington…although I have to admit their 1911R1 is a great pistol.

    • I bought an 870 express recently. It couldn’t run 3 shells through it before it malfunctioned, often requiring me to take the barrel out of the gun to extract the spent shell. I was able to fix it by polishing the ever loving crap out of the chamber but I sold it and took a hundred dollar loss (I told the guy I sold it to about the issues it had) and bought a moss berg. That’s the last time I’ll buy a Remington product.

      I have a 30 year old wing master for work and I love it, has an action like butter. Made the disappointment even worse.

      Brands I trust and can afford are Glock, S&W, Ruger, SIG

  7. My grandfather worked in Smith and Wesson from the month he was discharged from the Army right after WWll until the day he retired. I grew up with S&Ws and have never had an issue with the ones in my lifetime. Today I own primarily S&W but also Glock, Mossberg and Sig Saur.
    Out of the two guns I’ve owned the longest, S&W 3913LS in 9mm & Glock 19, I’d have to say those are my two most reliable guns/designs. But I love S&W as a company who’s guns I trust my life with.

  8. I don’t trust any company’s product in year one. I’ll let others do the beat testing. After the first year, the owners of the products will tell me who to trust. SIG, Glock, Ruger, Savage, Henry and my beloved S&W come immediately to mind.

    • i agree.
      I’m really considering the P320 Carry in 9mm.
      2 reasons: slightly smaller and quite a bit lighter than P226
      Probably will get in another year.
      Shot the P320 Compact, and trigger really tore up my trigger finger – big difference in length of pull compared to P226
      If the Carry fits my hand, will get.

      • I have a P225, P226 Extreme, P320, and a P290RS.

        I carry and like the P225 the best because of the grip and the DA/SA trigger. If the P226 had a smaller grip available, I’d carry that (16 vs. 9 rounds before reload).

        I have the P320 in sub-compact with a small grip. I like the feel of the grip but don’t like the trigger feel or the striker-fire. It has accuracy issues also. My P290RS (DAO with a heavy trigger) is more accurate.

  9. No, I will NEVER trust Remington. Here’s the deal: They knew that the R51 was absolutely broken, and they still went into full production. Now, that would be just a run-of-the-mill underhanded move if not for the fact that it was a gun designed for the concealed carry market. Buyers would ostensibly be entrusting their lives with this pistol, and Remington knew this. Yet they still said, “screw them” and went into full production. No, I will NEVER buy ANYTHING from Remington, ESPECIALLY not something for personal protection.

  10. I’ll never own another Remington.
    I’ll take my Savage or Ruger rifles any day.
    Handguns? Love my older S&W’s, Colts, and newer Glocks.

  11. Absolutely none. I wouldn’t care if it was for hunting or defense, I’m a huge believer in the notion that you test anything and everything period. The reasons are you should know the limitations of what you’re shooting, how it interacts with the the ammo and the shooter and that you didn’t get a QC fluke.

  12. I got a closet full of older remmy .I got my first gun (870) when I was in with 5th grade . If you only knew how many rabbits, dove,deer squirrel, and other critters that sucker has killed it would blow you mind. I bought 11-87 super mag 6 years ago and told myself I would never give any money to big green again. I hope they can prove me wrong.?

  13. Well, in the last couple of years I’ve owned a Kel-Tec PFP, a Taurus PT26, a Taurus 905, a Mossberg 500, and Glocks 17, 19, and 43. I only still have the Glocks and the Mossberg.

  14. Pretty much all the common brands of pistols, Springfield, SiG, FN, Ruger, Walters, S&W, and yes Jason, Glock.

    For long guns Winchester, Browning, Savage, Ruger.

  15. My last three firearms bought have been Rugers, all of them work 100% of the time for a fair price,

    your results may vary.

  16. I only “trust” products I personally own/tested; blind brand loyalty leads to problems in the long run. S&W and Mossberg come to mind as brands Ive had excellent experiences with.

  17. There are so many brands out there that it is impossible to cover the field, especially when you have no experience with many of them. I would trust Glock in terms of reliability, but I will never own one because I think the design is prone to user error. I trust Springfield, rifles and pistols both. (My first pistol was an XD and it has been flawless.) Ruger makes a reliable and solid product (an SP101 in .327 Federal is on my list), but I have never been impressed with their rifles’ accuracy; for rifles I prefer Savage, especially with the accutrigger, for an out of the box hunting gun at a great price. (There are many others I covet but will never be able to afford.) My Kahr has been utterly reliable, and the teething problems of the early guns seems to have been largely resolved. I have no preference in ARs–I built my own. My (actually my son’s now) Remington Wingmaster pump shotgun has been a solid performer, but maybe because it was pre-Freedom Group that I bought used fifteen years ago. My Kimber was untrustworthy until I bought a replacement Wolff spring, and Kimber has a reputation of poor customer service to boot, but otherwise it is a decent 1911, and many of their special editions are drool worthy.

  18. FN/Browning, H&K, PWS. Of all the guns I’ve owned, those are the brands that have continuously impressed me, and never failed me. I’ve heard nothing but great things about Glock, but I’ve never owned one.

  19. Ruger, Glock, S&W, Springfield, Henry, Sig, IWI, Bersa, CZ & clones (myriad, includes Tristar/Canik, Sarsilmaz, IWI, others) all make extremely reliable firearms.

    Taurus tends to be hit or miss, but so does Kimber. Every manufacturer has issues, but some deal with them publicly and others hide them.

  20. As others have said, I don’t trust any brand. I trust individual guns that I personally have used enough to know there’s a high likelihood that they’ll function properly when needed. There are some gun makers whose products tend to appeal to me more than others, but that doesn’t mean I necessarily “trust” the gun right out of the box.

    Now, there are certain manufacturers who, based on experience, I trust to stand behind their product if and when something goes wrong. Henry and Ruger stand out as good examples of that.

  21. Wow, people really are anti-Remington/Freedom Group, aren’t they?

    I trust my Remington’s and Marlins 110%. I own 700’s and 870’s from decades ago, and I own brand new ones. I have a JM stamped Marlin 45-70, and I have a brand new stainless Guide Gun model. They all work beautifully.

    I’m not a huge fan of the laminate stock on my 870 Express Magnums, but it’s what you should expect for a $320 beater shotgun. It’s not the eye-catching walnut that my Wingmaster 20 gauge has, but it’s not supposed to be. And after a preliminary disassembly and polishing the action rails, they cycle just as buttery smooth as the others did when new.

    Ditto with my 700’s. If you blindfolded me and handed me one of my 40 year old 700 actions, and then one of the brand new ones, I would be hard pressed to tell a difference in the feel of the bolt cycling.

    I know quite a few hunters and shooters, and I’ve yet to meet one who has either seen one of these horrible Freedom Group firearms firsthand, or know someone who has seen one firsthand. So far, 100% of the horror stories I’ve seen have been on the Internet.

    Now that’s not to say that their customer service doesn’t need work; frankly, I have no experience with it, but customer service is paramount.

    I also trust my Glocks and Rugers (and Sigs when I had them) with my life.

    I agree with others, though. Never put your faith in a firearm blindly. Put it through its paces. The best manufacturers can and do put out lemons, and the worst manufacturers can and do put out products that will perform flawlessly. You have to learn for yourself with your specific firearm.

    • I’m always amazed at the experts here who use the phrase “I will never buy anything from Remington”. What if Remington in the future built what was broadly considered the very best rifle or pistol made at the time. Why would you not even consider buying that? The way I see it, if the next CEO at Remington came on and made it his number one goal to produce the highest quality, best shooting firearm they could possible make, and if they did, I sure would hope that by doing so, enough smart people would recognize a quality product for what it is not for what they might imagine or for what someone who had never even seen it. I can see calling a rotten apple a rotten apple, but to look at the tree in early spring and say that all the future apples will be rotten is just negative supposition. My feeling about Remington is limited. I bought a 700BDL in .270 in 1968 and it still shoots great, feels great in my had and has taken a good share of game. I have early 70’s 870 with an action like butter that never fails me. I don’t own or shoot the new 783 but it has a super ridged stock, pillar bedded action, adjustable trigger, detachable magazine, button rifled barrel and is said to shoot well under 1MOA groups, and it’s under $500. I have several reasons to see a light at the end of the tunnel of corporate take over. I will however judge by what I can see and touch rather than how I feel.

  22. Glock. I am 20+ into my collection over 20 years and I have never had a failure of any kind. S&W and Ruger revolvers have never let me down. I have been very fortunate with my ars as well. From Stag to Del Ton, no problems with thousands of rounds down range. Sig Sauer is the company to disappoint me most. 2 brand new pistols, Scorpion 45 and a P320, back to the factory 3 times each, never fixed, and absolutely terrible customer service for both returns. I dumped them and I will not purchase their products again.

  23. Every 1911 pistol that I’ve gotten from Dan Wesson and every bolt action rifle from CZ has been outstanding in fit, finish, chamber and bore dimensions, and function. Every Freedom Arms revolver has had perfect chamber, throat, gap and bore dimensions that gave significantly better ballistics than any other revolvers I’ve ever owned. Unless they’ve recently begun having problems I don’t know about, I trust Dan Wesson, CZ and Freedom Arms.

    The three old-school DA/SA SIG-Sauer pistols recently acquired have also had no failures of any sort in a few thousand rounds each, though one of their 1911s I owned a few years ago had all kinds of quality issues, so I can’t say I trust the brand itself. Let’s say I trust SIG-Sauer to continue making the stuff that was started in Germany.

  24. I will never own remington again. The 700 I bought was a pile of junk. Worst rifle I ever owned. I still have it since I don’t want anyone else to have to deal with it.
    Savage, Springfield, s&w, mossberg, and Daniel defense. I trust them all.

  25. Browning, Savage, Ruger, S&W, Mossberg, Sig, and my 40 year-old Remington.
    So far, happy with DPMS, Century Arms, 1,000 rounds will tell the tale.

  26. I think every designer makes an occasional mistake and every manufacturer has occasional quality control issues. What is important is how often failures happen and how well they are handled. Right now Remington is in the doghouse because of multiple design fails, compounded by multiple QA fails. Taurus is in a similar place. Ruger gets a passing grade because their design is solid, most of their QA issues are cosmetic and CS has a good reputation. S&W revolver locks are stupid design, but everything else is solid design and good quality so S&W retains their reputation. Glock mostly delivers, and has been more forthcoming about design issues in the Gen4 so they are in a better place the Remington or “because you suck, and we hate you” era H&K.

  27. I wasn’t a Glock fan until I bought one. Yeah it’s ugly but it shoots everything I put into it every time. I also trust Smith & Wesson and Ruger.

    • That is strikingly similar to how they treated by friend trying to get info to have his K frame repaired; the barrel pretty much tore in half above the threads. He bought the gun used so he didn’t expect a free repair but they pretty much told him to go screw. They wouldn’t or couldn’t do a new barrel install for the K frame even if he supplied the parts and wouldn’t or couldn’t even give him a hint on where to source a new barrel or a gunsmith who could. The whole tone of it was basically S&W saying: K frame? What’s a K frame? They wanted nothing to do with it.

      Being an enterprising and mechanically inclined gentleman, he ended up sourcing his own barrel, built an action wrench, and did the transplant himself.

  28. Problems arise when a previously emotional legacy product is degraded to a mere “commodity” to be regarded as an SKU or sales unit–it seems that these situations occur when a firearms manufacturer is sold to or “gobbled up” by a Wall Street investment company or hedge fund–this new owner has no traditional or visceral connection to the firearms industry, and is solely interested in the short-term profit potential of its investment–regardless of whether its products are famous legacy guns, refrigerators, washing machines, sandals, or condoms. DMD

    • Indeed – and this is what happened to Winchester in ’64. The reason why you see so many Winchesters advertised as “pre-64” or “post-64” is that when Winchester came out with the cost-reduced models of their classic guns (the 94, 70, etc) with aluminum and plastics in them, the Winchester buyer revolted. Oh, the howls of outrage and derision from gun buyers.

  29. Have an 870 for about 10 years never had an issue, best I’ve ever had is HK, Sig and Springfield, had 2 Glocks the 1st a 17 had plenty of failure to go into battery, 2nd a 19 after replacing sights, trigger and, barrel ( where’s the perfection ) at about 200 rounds had 1 FTE, and after 75-100 rounds after that had another FTE, now I can’t trust my life with it

  30. Springfield, Savage, Ruger and Heym. I never understood the Rem 700, for all the problems and money spent on fixing them you could of had a perfect functioning out of the box rifle. Same with CZ 550, nice rifle but it is basically semi-finished from the factory. Why not just spend the $$ on a properly functioning weapon he first time. It’s like buying a new car and then dropping 10K to “fix” what the manufacturer should have fixed……

  31. So far, the only gun manufacturer I have more than one gun from is Ruger. I intend to get at least two [probably eventually four] more Rugers, and while I haven’t had problems with any of my other guns, so far Ruger is the only maker that’s enticed me to become a repeat customer.

    • Like you, I have owned several Rugers. As a back up, I have a small SR22 that I occasionally carry as opposed to my P229.
      Really though, every firearm I have ever owned was reliable and never failed with the exception of a Mac 10 which was a kit gun anyway. Everything else was rock solid.

  32. I absolutely do not trust Remington. Ruger I’m also starting to have trust issues with, mostly related to anything outside their Single Actions. I just don’t think a company that pays it’s production employees $11/hr can put out a quality product, knowing that their employees are unskilled and/or unmotivated. If I know that the Ruger gun I buy will be trouble free, I have no problem buying it because Ruger does do some innovative things.

    Brands I trust implicitly? North American Arms, Glock, S&W, and Henry.

  33. Luckily I’ve only ever had to contact any manufacturer once – Taurus – and they made a mess of it. Millenium Pro .45ACP. Bad manufacturing, poor service when I sent it back (they told me I was crazy, there was nothing wrong with the gun (except it couldn’t find paper at 21 feet). Sold it after a reputable gunsmith showed me the “Brazilian shortcuts” (his words) that would never allow for accuracy.

    As to H&K, Ruger, S&W, CZ, FIE, Mossberg? I’ve never had to contact them. Their products, for me, have always worked out of the box without issue.

    Trust? If it works as advertised out of the box, yes, I’d consider that I’d trust that brand; until something goes wrong. Then they’d have to earn my trust by fixing the problem.

  34. I agree with much of what has been said so far. I find there is a growing list of Turkish made firearms that I find trust worthy. I would take my canik Tp9 over any Remington pistol produced right now.

  35. I gotta disagree with all the people who said Sig. I think they make a lot of great guns, but my experience with the P290RS can be summed up as bad design, poorly executed and backed up with poor customer service.

    I trust Ruger. I don’t have enough experience with other brands to comment.

  36. Unfortunately that’s a No on Remmie. Got burned on the 700, and I didn’t have to get personally burned on Marlin to see what they did to them.

    As much as I love my Sub2k’s, I also have to say I’m a little skittish about KelTec.
    I also have a vote of no confidence in Taurus, although I do like my Slim 709.
    Bersa is somewhere in the middle, and SCCY is not even worth discussing.

    As far as inherently ‘Trust’? I’d say Daniel Defense and Krebs Custom are two that stand out. But also feel confident enough in CZ, Glock, Ruger, FN, S&W, Springfield.

    Sig has made too many ‘rush this to market and deal with it later’ blunders to gain my confidence, and HK – well they hate me, so I hate them back.

    Mossberg also doesn’t make the list because of the early canted sight issue on the SPX (although I got a good one apparently).

    I’ve learned through lots of trial and error and RMA’s that I’d rather just pay the price up front and get something from a top of the line manufacturer that takes unquestionable pride in their product than regret it later.

  37. What do I trust? I trust what I carry daily, my P229 and my main battle rifle although I don’t carry that daily, a milled Arsenal AK47

    You know what they say; the purpose of your pistol is to fight your way to your rifle.

  38. To me it’s all about the customer service and standing behind a product. I buy all different brands of firearms and research others reviews to see if they are end user friendly. I had a problem with a g4 glock 26 that would occasionally FTE. I emailed glock who immediately overnighted a new recoil spring. After that no more problems. I have had several other glock pistols with several thousands of rounds fired with zero hiccups. I don’t buy into the whole perfection thing as all guns are machines prone to malfunction at one point or another. There is no such thing as a perfect machine. I have had a Remington 597 that was and still is an utter failure of a firearm. In all honesty I haven’t contacted Remington to fix the problem so I am unsure of their customer service.

  39. Glock and Ruger for sure. Still working on others as far as what I trust completely. Spike’s is getting there.

  40. In my short time(5 years) as a gun owner I don’t trust anyone. I’ve had 4 Taurus’ that ran great(there is NO TAURUS PT26),a Kel-tec PF9(again-NO PFP) that was ok but couldn’t hit a bullseye,a savage 350,a pardner pump(great gun) and a Kel-tec sub2000(good but fragile). And a Hi-point that was crap. I’ve had zero hands on instruction but got pretty good at shooting and general gun care. I’ve also had great,mediocre and horrible cars and vans from big auto companies in 45 years-and the worst and the best were the same company(FORD). It means humans make them-maybe on a Friday. And as far as Taurus-money’s tight,I’m retired(sort of) and the real is collapsing(while the dollar is soaring).

  41. For defense purpose I trust my Jericho and the wonderful folks at Tanfoglio (after all is one of their guns just assembled in Israel) for service.

    For sporting purposes
    22LR rifles: Anschutz. Perfect from the start and outstanding service
    22LR pistols: Pardini, same as above
    Muzzleloading: Pedersoli, at the risk of sounding boring… same as above.

  42. Every Savage rifle I’ve owned or shot has been excellent, and I’d unhesitatingly buy another one.
    I’ve had trouble with new S&W semis, I would have to think twice before I bought another, or even a new S&W revolver. An old S&W revolver is a different story.
    I have a Sig P238 which runs flawlessly and is my carry of choice in hoplophobic areas where deep deep concealment is desirable. I would probably buy another Sig.
    I’ve never owned any Remington product, and after the raft of recalls, I doubt I ever will buy a new product.
    I’ve owned a bunch of DPMS AR-15 rifles, I was happy with all of them.
    I’d buy a Mossberg product without hesitation as well. I would buy a Springfield handgun without reservation as well.
    I have no experience with other brands to form a sensible opinion.

  43. Favor Ruger LCR line ever since first SD handgun was LCR .38 P+ Since have added LCR 22LR, LCR 9mm, Ruger SP101 357, Ruger SP 100 357WC model, Ruger 101 9mm, Ruger SR 22LR, Ruger P95. 9mm.
    Have budget Bersa Thunder.380 (took range test CHL with that one) Bersa Thunder 22lR, Bersa Ultra Compact 9mm. EAA Witness Pavona Sapphire 9mm
    Ruger is excellent quality, revolvers are always going to go bang…Every day & home carry is LCR 22LR
    BTW: Ruger LCR stock grips suck for larger hands. I changed out to Pachmayr LCR Diamond Pro, for full 4 finger grip and mitigates stub nose felt recoil

  44. Easy one; Тульский оружейный завод (Tula Arms Plant)

    Additionally, every Radom I’ve ever picked up has been quite satisfactory…. but my Polish is kinda rusty so I can’t speak for their customer service.

    Also; Rossi and NAA.

  45. I have complete faith in my Glock 22, my Walther PPS, my Ruger SA Blackhawks and my Browning BPS (2), one of which is set up for HD.

  46. Heckler & Koch and SIG Sauer. Mainly because I only own two firearms and being in Canada, they’re relegated to recreational use on the range and I treat them as well as my children.

  47. GLOCK, Sig, Wilson, LMT, Baretta, FN, Barrett, Daniel Defense, S &W revolvers all fall mostly in the “absolutely reliable” class and have excellent customer service – Kel Tec has excellent customer service

  48. CZ, H&K, Sig, Glock seem to be solid. I don’t know enough to have an opinion on FN. S&W has put out crappy semiautos, but they’ve improved. Ruger–I’d trust their revolvers. I haven’t heard anything bad about their SR22. I’d trust a Beretta M9/92FS but had bad luck with the Nano, and apparently it’s still flaky today.

    I don’t trust ANY individual gun marked “1911” until it proves it’s not a fussy eater. I see way too many feed ramp jams just shrugged off as “oh that’s a mag issue.” (Which tells me the manufacturer STILL isn’t doing his job right; he should provide a mag that fucking works.)

  49. Well, based on personal experience I will not/ cannot trust Remington or Browning repair or customer service. I have had great success with repairs on Smith & Wesson, Kel-Tec, and Kahr. Guns never needing a factory visit include Beretta, Glock, Ruger, etc.

  50. I own and trust Colt and Sig Sauer. I trust Winchester and Federal for my ammo. I used to have a Remington Wingmaster and it’s the best shotgun I ever owned. Still kick myself for selling it. To me, it’s comes down to the model of the specific gun. Just saying…

  51. If a Company does not have GREAT Customer Service as reported by the overwhelming majority of those that used the service: I will not buy any of their firearms.

    I have no respect for a firearms company that whores out their name to another company mfg firearms. The quaility is never there in the Subs products.

    SIG and Glock are the only two Firearms Companies I have 100% trust and confidence in. Other companies I only like certain products in the line.
    Life or death: Sig 556 rifles and Glock .40S&W pistols, Ruger MkII, HK/Beni M1
    For the untrained: Ruger/Taurus revolvers, Rem 870
    For Fun Sig/Taurus 1911
    For kids Marlin Bolt Action 22LR
    I have other brands and models that are great, just not on the “A List”.

  52. Just because I do not see it, Thompson/Center Arms.

    Very high quality fire arms, made in America, classic good looks with their new T/C Contender G2 line.

  53. So far, personally,

    1. Zastava. Never had a SINGLE bad or troublesome firearm from them. I carry my M57 everywhere every day.
    2. CZ. Those people make quality products. They make some of the best value weapons — HK quality at Colt prices.
    3. Glock. I have never owned a Glock, but I’ve never found anyone who has shot a Glock who would not be content to carry it in the gravest extreme, and that includes me.

  54. With the exception of my Colt revolvers, I have never trusted any gun I’ve purchased since I was 14-15 years old as received. I go through every one and polish, tune, and tweak until I’m satisfied it will function exactly as it’s supposed to. That said, for bolt guns Winchester 70’s and Weatherby have been close to perfect out of the box. All of my AR’s are built from parts and about half have Anderson (oh the shame!) upper and lowers with Spikes innards and mostly Daniel and Criterion barrels. Pistols that have been trouble free for me are Browning Hi Powers and 92’s and Para Ordnance. My medium bore autoloaders of choice are HK or a good clone from a parts kit (that I build – keyword being I). Everyone I know loves their Glock but I just prefer having a hammer.

  55. Not much love for Colt on Ttag!
    Only one commenter liked them
    Seems like CZ, Sig, Ruger and Glock get the most mention
    S and W, H and K and even Henry get some mentions
    Taurus is low on the likes it seems
    I must have had great luck as only one gun has ever gone back to the service center for repair
    And that was my fault as I Cerakoted my Bersa Thunder cc and put it in the oven with all the springs in place
    One spring was affected by the heat and malfunctioned after oven curing the paint
    Bersa replaced and re-staked the spring, free, no questions asked
    My CZ 75, Walther PPK/s, Spikes and Bushmaster AR’s and Arsenal, Norinco AK’s, and even my Federal Ordnance M 14 have all worked perfectly for thousands of rounds
    AR’s need bolt replacement when the lugs shear off
    AK’s you just keep shooting until you grow old
    Then your kids shoot them

  56. Ruger :
    First gun I ever shot (Mk I).
    First gun I was ever given (10/22).
    First gun I personally bought (P85).
    The gun I’ve carried daily for 25 years (P90DC).
    I have never had any problems with any of these guns and literally trust them with my life.

    590A1 from way back in the day.
    4×4 in 30.06 that is an absolute tack driver.
    Both absolutely solid shooters and zero problems.

    Honorable Mention / Longevity Award
    1897 Model Winchester 12 Gauge:
    36″ Barrel, FULL Choke.
    Instant death to turkeys.

  57. Accepting that all OEs have issues or some sort at some time, I’m still usually comfortable with:

    • Sig for pistols (but I own a few S&W, a 92F, a Kel-Tec, two glocks, a Walther PPK/s and .22, a ruger 22/45, and a handful of others)

    • Savage for my bolt action rifles (several in various configs and calibers) but I have a few CZs as well.

    • Arsenal and Vepr for my AK patterns (and CZ for my 58s)

    • I build the majority of my ARs from parts. That would be a long list of ‘who I trust’ therein. I have a few from OEs, but I moved to building as I wanted each build to be very specific. Easier to build it yourself at that point. When you get to “This barrel, this rail, this FCG, this BCG, etc” while it may not seem cheaper than buying a built item, it certainly is if you end up tearing off a lot of parts to replace them with those you wanted.

  58. I’ve got a Remington Model 31 pump in 16 ga. that was my father’s first firearm purchase. I really enjoy it. I’ve no other Remington firearms.

  59. I’ve decided all my carry pistols will be Kahrs. My P9 has been unfailingly reliable for 10+ years, my new CW380 is accurate and reliable(once I broke it in)—and there’s a CW40 and CW45 in my future.

    My Glocks are always reliable.

    Smith and Wesson revolvers are the business. I’ll never buy any other revolver.


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