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Dems Pushing Federal Mag Capacity Bill

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A group of anti-gun U.S. Senators has introduced a measure that would outlaw firearm magazines that could hold more than 10 rounds and authorize a so-called “buyback” program to confiscate magazines holding more rounds.

The so-called Keep Americans Safe Act, introduced in both the House and Senate, would prohibit the sale or transfer of magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds to anyone except law enforcement and prohibit the possession of such magazines manufactured after the date of enactment by anyone except law enforcement; authorize magazine buyback programs; and empower law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and ATF, to seize and destroy magazines that are possessed illegally.

According to the text of the bill, “The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’—‘‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, helical feeding device, or similar device, including any such device, joined or coupled with another in any manner, that has an overall capacity of, or that can be readily restored, changed, or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition;” and ‘‘(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.”

While the measure would not ban the manufacture of such magazines, the legislation specifies: ‘‘A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Keep Americans Safe Act shall be identified by a serial number and the date on which the device was manufactured or made, legibly and conspicuously engraved or cast on the device, and such other identification as the Attorney General shall by regulations prescribe.”

Interestingly, the measure also includes a program to “buy back” magazines—a ridiculous phrase since the government has never owned any of them.

“Section 501(a)(1) of title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (34 U.S.C. 6 10152(a)(1)) is amended by adding at the end the following: ‘‘(J) Compensation for surrendered large capacity ammunition feeding devices, as that term is defined in section 921 of title 18, 11 United States Code, under buy-back programs for large capacity ammunition feeding devices.”

Of course, while the Democrats in Congress consider magazines that hold more than 10 rounds to be too dangerous for citizens to own, they are comfortable allowing law enforcement to continue possessing these devices. This situation would leave citizens at a disadvantage if we ever need to defend ourselves against a government gone rogue in the future.

According to the measure, the restrictions do not apply to: ‘‘(A) the importation for, manufacture for, sale to, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a sale or transfer to or possession by a qualified law enforcement officer employed by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off-duty), or a sale or transfer to or possession by a campus law enforcement officer for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off-duty).”

During the Clinton gun ban from 1994 to 2004, so-called high-capacity magazines were banned along with so-called “assault weapons.” And while Democrats brag that the ban lowered the number of shootings,

A congressionally mandated study of the federal ban found it had no impact on crime, partly because “the banned guns were never used in more than a modest fraction of gun murders.”

Subsequent research conducted by the RAND Corporation found no conclusive evidence that banning “assault weapons” or “large-capacity” magazines affects mass shootings or violent crime.

111 thoughts on “Dems Pushing Federal Mag Capacity Bill”

    • This should be the time we actually pass the opposite law, a Federal prohibition against any state or local magazine capacity laws. Screw all the Communist states that have magazine capacity laws. “Shall not be infringed” means what it says. Another law prohibiting all “assault weapons” bans would also be a good idea.

      It’s time to go on the offensive against these creeps.

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    • This is political smoke-and-mirrors. The Dems know this has no chance of passing but are pandering to their own voter base and, more importantly, their financial sponsors. “Look, we tried but those evil others stopped us!”

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    • Just like National Reciprocity, it is going nowhere. But it is red meat for the shrinking gun grabbing Left.

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    • So the dems have become the political onanist party. We need to work that biblical language back into the culture, and have it attached to them like a hot sticky mess.

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    • Even ILL annoy “allows” 15 round mags for handguns. If they gat owners owners like this when we have perhaps 80000000 gats just think if we were disarmed. My weapon of war is safely tucked away🙄

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  1. The Democrats are without any moral compass. They stand for nothing, Literally could not clap or stand for a 13-year-old cancer survivor that wants to dedicate his future to Law Enforcement. The dem’s should be careful, TDS is real, and they proved it at the president’s speech to congress.

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    • Wally1,

      I watched just over half of Trump’s address to Congress last night and I was dumbfounded that Democrats did not cheer for various things that should be a slam-dunk for them to support and cheer.

      My conclusion, after watching U.S. Congress Democrats refuse to cheer for such things, is that they are angry that Trump and the Republican agenda reduces government’s ability to cause chaos and suffering. And that forces me to conclude that most/all Democrats are just plain demented and evil.

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      • And cruel. Let us not forget that they are cruel. Sure, maybe that’s part and parcel with the “demented and evil” attributes you mention. But their cruelty cannot be forgotten.

        You can call a person “demented”. You can call them “evil”. But it’s much easier to show evidence for cruelty.

        For example, making homeless vets live on the streets while giving posh hotel rooms to illegal aliens? THAT is cruel.

        Allowing a man with all his junk to change in a women’s or girl’s locker room? And to accept the awards rightfully meant for the woman or girl who wins her competition against other women or girls? Cruel.

        Making self-defenders live to a higher expectation than bad guys and even cops? CRUEL.

        For each of these, and for many more examples, I don’t have to prove “demented” or “evil”, even though either or both may be at the root of the problem. But I can show that they’re cruel, and that’ should be a good reason for liberal dems to reconsider their voting habits.

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      • They cheered for five more years of war in Ukraine. They love death and destruction. Trump called Sen Pocahontas out on it, and she kept on clapping all by herself like an insane person. Trump broke their brains.

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    • Democrats don’t stand for nothing. They stand for [email protected], [email protected].z, criminals of a certain demographic, a.b0r.t1.on, gr0.0m.1ng children in public schools, and everything else ugly and corrupt. They also stand for tyranny and communism. They are the same as their father, Satan, and worship ugliness and lies.

      Just don’t say they stand for nothing.

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      • They stand for cruelty.

        It was cruel for a multiple-offense illegal alien to be released multiple times back into the interior of our country so that he could violently abuse and murder an innocent nursing student in Georgia.

        And it was cruel for the liberal dems in last night’s event to just sit there on their hands and not even acknowledge that young nursing student’s grieving mother.

        That is cruel, and they need primarying. Kind of how a violent bad guy needs shooting.

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        • “The media and our friends in the Democrat Party kept saying we needed new legislation,” Trump said. “We must have legislation to secure the border, but it turned out that all we really needed was a new president.”

          I saw a poll just a week or two ago that said 75% of Dems actually believed that the “border crisis” was an accident instead of an intentional Democrat-created crisis. What can they say now? Are nearly 40% of all voters literally retarded? (I won’t bring up my 2020 bet with Miner49r, or that he was still denying the intentionally open Puppet-Harris border about two weeks ago.) Dems basically said they were going to do this during the 2020 election season.

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    • “clap or stand for a 13-year-old cancer survivor”

      Donald Trump’s blatant manipulation and heartless behavior, using this brave young man as a political prop is reprehensible.

      No, patriots should not encourage that kind of bullshit, and anyone that is snookered by his casual use of emotional blackmail should rethink their core beliefs.

      Trump is a cold and callous student of human behavior, he knows exactly how to manipulate the ‘poorly educated’ and emotionally immature. But there are many folks who are astute enough to see clearly his lack of character and narcissism:

      “Hero Pilot ‘Disgusted’ But ‘Not Surprised’ By Trump’s Response to D.C. Crash
      Will Neal
      Sat, February 1, 2025, 1:17 PM EST
      One of the nation’s most famous pilots had some choice words for President Donald Trump for seemingly blaming diversity, equity, and inclusion for the fatal mid-air collision in Washington, D.

      “I don’t want to draw you into politics, but if you have a reaction to what the president said today about this, please share it with us,” said O’Donnell.

      After a long and charged pause, Sullenberger said, “Not surprised.” He then added, “Disgusted.”

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      • MajorLiar,

        Oh, by all means, let’s condemn performative street theater/virtue signaling at the SOTU . . . like the Lyin’ Hawaiian and Senile Joe bringing “Dreamers” and other racist props to their’s, amirite????

        Sod off, Swampy.

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      • Look at the reactions of the wealthy, white dems to a black child that beat cancer. It is written all over their faces. Disgust, revulsion.

        The fascist left let their true feelings shine through. And miner defends them, of course.

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      • After the emotional blackmail people like you tried to use to force those fake vaccines via fake science on fake news while spewing fake tragedy of “I wish I was vaccinated”, I really can’t take your assertion seriously. As to anything else try to find your own stuff as repeating what we have said to you for years but flipping the parties involved will simply be ineffective.

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        • “fake vaccines via fake science on fake news“

          Yeah, how is that “fake vaccine” working out for the folks in Texas?

          “The largest of the outbreaks is in West Texas, where the total number of people diagnosed with measles grew to 146 on Friday. An unvaccinated child in the region died last week. It was the first measles death in the U.S. since 2015.“

          How fascinating, we’re watching Darwin’s theory of natural selection in real time.

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          • I got the measles, everyone got the measles, mumps and chickenpox.
            I can’t remember hearing of no one dieing from them.
            Maybe vaccines are making a weaker species?
            No proof of that though because veterinarians are busy as hell inoculating all the coyotes and wild pigs.

          • Measles is lab created coronavirus bioweapon now? Damn guy you can at least attempt to stay on topic. As for Texas outbreaks let me know when 1 they are not caused by malnourished illegal border hoppers and 2 the vaccine works with regards to creating immunity as it looks like most of the cases were up to date on their mmr somehow. Fun shit you learn from talking to the department of health. Anything else?

          • They must have thought the measles story would be a good anti-MAGA talking point. A lib friend of mine just told me about that outbreak a few days ago. I understood what she was getting at. I asked her if she knew why the outbreak was in the southwest. She figured it out and dropped the subject.

    • “could not clap or stand for a 13-year-old cancer survivor”

      Performative manipulation to snooker the ‘poorly educated’, nothing more.

      Imagine, claiming to support a childhood cancer survivor while cutting pediatric cancer research, priceless propaganda!

      “Federal budget cuts threaten pediatric cancer research
      By CureSearch / January 9, 2025

      Just before the new year, the 2025 federal budget passed, surprising the pediatric cancer community by cutting provisions designed to support pediatric cancer research and accessibility.

      The cuts included:

      The Accelerating Kids’ Access to Care Act, which cuts bureaucratic red tape that keeps kids from accessing time-sensitive care across state lines.
      The Creating Hope Reauthorization Act, which incentivizes critical pediatric research, but whose funding has expired due to congressional inaction.
      The Innovation in Pediatric Drugs Act, to ensure pediatric studies for possible new treatments are completed on time—and brings us closer to cures.
      Give Kids A Chance Act, which allows researchers to study combinations of new cancer drugs, potentially unlocking new cures for kids.
      The RARE Act, which clarifies Congress’ interpretation of the Orphan Drug Act to ensure pediatric drug research and development isn’t locked out from newly approved drugs that don’t impact pediatric populations.“

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      • Considering the outright fraud with alzheimer’s research for well over a decade and the recent promise shown by horse paste and other obscure underused and off patent drugs it is very difficult to say anything of value will be lost. Especially when a lot of the cancer is likely fueled by recent shots pushed by emotional blackmail for most under 50.

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        • “a lot of the cancer is likely fueled by recent shots”

          Yes, you may be correct.

          To be ‘SAFE’ you really should forbid your kids and grandkids, all your family and neighbors, to avoid any vaccination because they probably cause cancer as you say.

          Yep, that’s the best course of action, you and your loved ones should just completely avoid vaccination, that’s the best policy to prevent most cancers.

          And I concur, if any of your folks do get sick, immediately apply horse paste as the best treatment.

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          • Again with your extremist inability to perform basic logic or science. How about we actually perform actual double blind evaluation on the various vaccines and variants of additives and evaluate against actual placebo (plenty of data in the Amish community that somehow never sees the light of day). Oh right that would probably defund a major lefty control institution. Again your argument is weak as is the funding of your protests without taxpayer funds.

  2. DOA, but red meat for the base.

    In other news, Bud’s Guns physical store won’t sell any firearms or mags to people from states on their list.

    With friends like that…

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    • Even better.
      Dear Dems;
      Fuck off.
      Then when you get there, fuck off from there too.
      Keep fucking off until you get back here, then fuck off again.

      Sincerely,
      Not your damn slaves.

      P.S.-Fuck off.

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  3. “A group of anti-gun U.S. Senators”

    And here they are:

    Mazie Keiko Hirono (D-Hawaii)
    Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut)
    Ladda Tammy Duckworth (D-Illinois)
    Christopher Coons (D-Delaware)
    Dick Durbin (D-Illinois)
    Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico)
    Tim Kaine (D-Virginia)
    Angus Stanley King Jr. (I-Maine … routinely allies closely with Democrat party)
    Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota)
    Edward John Markey (D-Massachusetts)
    Christopher Scott Murphy (D-Connecticut)
    Patty Murray (D-Washington)
    Alejandro “Alex” Padilla (D-California)
    John “Jack” Francis Reed (D-Rhode Island)
    Jacky Rosen (D-Nevada)
    Bernard Sanders (I-Vermont … always allied closely with Democrat party)
    Tina Smith (D-Minnesota)
    Chris Van Hollen (D-Maryland)
    Elizabeth Ann Warren (D-Massachusetts)
    Peter Welch (D-Vermont)
    Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island)

    Because of the independents they are probably going to claim ‘bi-partisan support’. These two ‘independents’ are democrat shills and no where near ‘bi-partisan’.

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      • “genius spaced-man Kelly“

        How strange, to hate and fear intelligence and knowledge.

        The anti-intellectualism of the right wing MAGA crowd is almost as fascinating as their hatred of actual veterans who served America honorably.

        I don’t know if Mark Kelly is a genius, but it is clear he has served America with honor, flying high risk missions in the combat zones.

        Of course you hate him, just like John McCain, because he has shown bravery in the face of America’s enemies.

        “Mark Kelly graduated from the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in 1986 with a degree in Marine Engineering and was commissioned as an officer in the U.S. Navy. He completed his initial pilot training in Texas and was selected to fly the A-6E Intruder aircraft. Upon completing that training he was stationed in Atsugi, Japan and assigned to a squadron aboard the USS Midway. Mark made two deployments to the Arabian Gulf and flew 39 combat missions in Operation Desert Storm destroying Iraqi military targets, including two ships and providing close air support for coalition forces.

        Mark received his Masters Degree in Aeronautical Engineering from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School and graduated from the U.S. Naval Test Pilot School in 1994. He served as a test pilot in the Strike Aircraft Test Directorate flying the A-6E, EA-6B and F/A-18 aircraft. He also served as an instructor at the Naval Pilot School teaching transonic flying qualities, departure and spin testing and weapons systems testing”

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          • And…making fun of veterans that Dems like means that you hate all veterans because pro-intellectualism, or something.

          • Sounds like a low level college professor struggling to explain his relevance in producing anything valuable.

        • So because someone is a veteran we’re not allowed to ever question them and must blindly adore them forever?

          The problem with intellectuals is that they get so caught up in their bubbles that they don’t see how things actually are in the real world. They can insist that their models show this and that that they were designed to show but the real world outside their ivory towers is not what they think it should be.

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  4. Thanks to a large number of Republican Senators who oppose such legislation, this bill will wither and die on the vine.

    Please note that his bill would become law if Democrats held 60 seats in the U.S. Senate, a slim majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the Oval Office. Plan and vote accordingly in all future elections.

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  5. How in the hell did both of my senators fail to get on this bandwagon? I mean we largely already have the laws of the AWB but I have never known them to miss out on a chance at making normal people miserable.

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  6. This situation [only government agents able to legally possess magazines holding more than 10 cartridges] would leave citizens at a disadvantage if we ever need to defend ourselves against a government gone rogue in the future.

    That also leaves citizens at a disadvantage if we need to defend ourselves from violent criminal gangs, such as the residents at an apartment building in Aurora, Colorado.

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  7. I called up the DWFG and they told me it’s okay to use magazines holding more then ten rounds.
    So go argue with them.

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    • I’ve been looking for a review. What I could tell from a couple of news reports is that there is little support for Mexico’s position, and especially several comments that Mexico’s suit is the very kind of action that the PLCAA was designed to eliminate. VERY promising, as this case is a repeat of the Sandy Hook case against Remington.

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      • Ketanji Jackson made an interesting statement, it was kinda surprising given she is a left-wing liberal. She kept pressing the Mexican government’s attorney as to whether PLCAA was intended to bar lawsuits like Mexico’s … then said this:

        “I worry that we’re running up against the very concerns that motivated this statute to begin with, … All of the things that you ask for in this lawsuit would amount to different kinds of regulatory constraints that I’m thinking Congress didn’t want the courts to be the ones to impose.”

        But yeah, I tend to agree with you that it does look promising that SCOTUS will end up basically telling Mexico ‘go pound sand’.

        Remington would have eventually won had they continued. But their insurance backers decided it would be too costly, so they settled to end it. But that was the purpose of the anti-gun behind it to begin with, to make it too expensive for Remington to continue and force a settlement. And of course the anti-gun interest touted it as a victory and the left wing media went along with it, for example, ABC had a headline “Sandy Hook families settle with Remington, marking 1st time gun-maker held liable for mass shooting” – well actually Remington wasn’t “held liable for mass shooting” because the conclusion was a settlement and a court (or jury) verdict did not find them “liable for mass shooting” because they (their insurance) settled.

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        • “Ketanji Jackson made an interesting statement, it was kinda surprising given she is a left-wing libera”

          I’m sure you were surprised by Justice Jackson’s apparent knowledge of the law and willingness to examine all viewpoints regardless of her personal political leanings.

          You’re surprised because like the MAGA justices do, you expect all the justices to exhibit political bias but justice Jackson has more experience on the bench then any of trumps appointees, she understands the importance of equity.

          “Justice Jackson has two law degrees (eight of the current justices only have one), she’s clerked for three judges (none of the other eight clerked for more than one), and she’s been a trial judge longer than any of the other justices (and Roberts is the only one who had been a trial judge).”

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          • Honestly yes she often ignores the law so to see her actually follow it let alone seem to understand it is a welcome surprise for an activist diversity hire.

          • “You’re surprised because like the MAGA justices do, you expect all the justices to exhibit political bias but justice Jackson has more experience on the bench then any of trumps appointees, she understands the importance of equity.”

            First, you don’t know me so don’t pretend to know what I expect or do not expect.

            Marsha Blackburn (question to Jackson during her nomination hearing): “Can you provide a definition for the word ‘woman’?”

            Ketanji Jackson (appearing confused): “I’m not a biologist.”

            Yeah, a real un-baised “willingness to examine all viewpoints regardless of her personal political leanings” person there.

  8. Boston Off-Duty Cop Shoots Knife-Wielding Attacker, Mayor Sides with Attacker’s Family ~ VIDEOS.

    “When the attacker refused, the officer opened fire, neutralizing the threat. The suspect was rushed to the hospital but later pronounced dead.”

    The attacker was the one who died. Democratic Mayor Michelle Wu and Suffolk County District Attorney Kevin Hayden, extended condolences—not to the traumatized victims or the brave officer—but to the family of the knife-wielding attacker with:

    “My condolences and all of our thoughts are with the family of the individual whose life has been lost,”

    And never acknowledged the victims who ran for their lives or the officer who stopped their attacker.

    And that’s a good representation of the democrats – the mentally ill left-wing death cult criminal lovers.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2025/03/boston-off-duty-cop-stops-knife-wielding-attacker-mayor-sides-with-attacker/

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    • I worked a jobsite in Bahstun 30 years back, and it was a lib shithole even then. Even their famous Baked Beans need a shot of pepper sauce and some Blackstrap stirred in… hard to believe this is the place where a Famous Tea Party once took place.

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      • Oh yeah, I remember reading about those guys, the ones that dressed up like Native Americans then threw the tea overboard.
        That had to take some real balls there by golly.

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  9. Trump was trolling a lot with the thing about making Canada the 51st state. It got some reactions, especially from the left-wingers and from Canadians, that were hilarious…. but there was also among people an underlying ‘if Trump can do it maybe he should. Lets think about this for a bit’ and a lot of that was among Canadians who leaned towards the ‘like the idea of living in the 51st state of the United States’.

    Maybe 51st state after all: Alberta lawyer Jeffrey Rath says a delegate is planning to travel to D.C. to pitch President Trump on Alberta statehood.

    https://x.com/Emmanuel_Rach/status/1896953384563024082

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    • Alberta has nearly all of Canada’s oil reserves and half of their Natural Gas. Them becoming the 51st state would be a slick workaround on tarriffs. The rest of Canada can keep their corn to distill into Canadian Blended Whiskey, instead of sending it here to mix with our gasoline (after DOGE shuts down THAT subsidy fiasco)

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  10. (B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.”

    Gosh aren’t they generous.

    Go ahead and try it so we can get the votes on the record.

    One idiot I have talked too in the past thinks this is a great idea “because it gives one time to escape from a mass shooting when it’s time to change a magazine”. I said “but that takes a couple seconds you idiot”. The garbage they spew on the fake news.

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  11. SCOTUS rules 5-4 that Trump must release 2 BILLION to USAID intended recipients. Roberts and Barrett side with 4 leftists justices. I wonder if this is why they are seemingly reluctant to take up AWB/ magazine ban cases as Barrett seems to be lurching to the left.

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    • “Trump must release 2 BILLION to USAID“

      The court ruled properly that the Acts of Congress are the supreme law of the land, America must pay its bills for aid already delivered.
      Much of that money is owed to America’s farmers for their agricultural products they sell to USAID, approximately $2 billion sales every year supporting Americas Farmers.

      ‘An ELECTIVE DESPOTISM was not the government we fought for; but one which should not only be founded on free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among several bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits, without being effectually checked and restrained by the others.

      For this reason, that convention which passed the ordinance of government, laid its foundation on this basis, that the legislative, executive, and judiciary departments should be separate and distinct, so that no person should exercise the powers of more than one of them at the same time.’

      James Madison Federalist 48

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      • “The court ruled properly that the Acts of Congress are the supreme law of the land”

        The court ruled no such thing. It wasn’t an act of congress. It was an act of USAID, they ‘created’ the grant and allocated money to it, not congress.

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        • Umm, I have to disagree. Congress allocates the money in its budget. The President has never had a line item veto on the budget, and he cannot back into one by refusing to spend the money.

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          • Congress allocated a certain amount for aid to USAID. USAID obligated the money thus created the ‘debt’.

            The president has authority over the agencies in the executive branch, he can direct their activities. Trump did that, he directed that no activity to pay out funds not that funds allocated by congress were not obligated. So he didn’t “back into” a ‘line item veto “by refusing to spend the money” – He didn’t actually ‘refuse’ to spend the money, Trump simply exercised his executive power to direct activity of agencies in the executive branch by basically telling them to take no action to make it happen thus a ‘funding freeze’. Your boss tells you to do work you do it, your boss tells you to not do work you don’t do it.

          • For example, for my above, in Trumps executive order > REEVALUATInG AND REALIGNING UNITED STATES FOREIGN AID > https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/reevaluating-and-realigning-united-states-foreign-aid/

            “Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of United States that no further United States foreign assistance shall be disbursed in a manner that is not fully aligned with the foreign policy of the President of the United States. ”

            And…

            “All department and agency heads with responsibility for United States foreign development assistance programs shall immediately pause new obligations and disbursements of development assistance funds to foreign countries and implementing non-governmental organizations, international organizations, and contractors pending reviews of such programs for programmatic efficiency and consistency with United States foreign policy, to be conducted within 90 days of this order. ”

            Those say, basically, for agencies … don’t do any disbursement activity – its basically a focused limited ‘stop work’ order. Its Trump simply directing the ‘work’ activity of the agencies in the executive branch.

            SCOTUS didn’t say Trump could not direct the work of his agencies in this regard. They just basically …. upheld the lower court and said this particular debt has to be paid.

          • But I also disagree with the SCOTUS outcome here, and the reason is because of the lower court.

            We have three co-equal branches of government. Lower federal courts are created by congress, but they are not constitutional creations to begin with. No where in the constitution does it establish other than the supreme court, one of the three co-equal branches called the judicial. Neither of the three co-equal branches can tell the other co-equal branches what they can or can not do within the powers constitutionally granted the branch. For example, neither congress (one branch – the legislative) or SCOTUS (another branch – the judicial) can tell the President (another branch – the executive) he may not direct/decide activities, or hiring/firing of, the people in the executive branch.

            For a lower court, not constitutionally created to begin with, to assume they are co-equal to the executive branch and then above the executive branch is an affront and abomination to the constitution.

            The U.S. has an obligation to pay its debts, not fund foreign aid programs. Constitutionally, its actually congress job to decide if such foreign aid funds are disbursed. No where in the constitution or law is the president actually obligated to disburse foreign aid funds.

            The Constitution’s Article I, Section 9 grants Congress the power of the purse to approve spending in the federal budget in the Appropriations Clause, which reads in part, “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.” The Constitution then delegates to the president the task of spending approved funds in the Take Care Clause, which requires the chief executive (President) “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

            There is actually no law that says foreign aid has to be, is required to be, given or disbursed. So if congress decides to spend on foreign aid, it does not place a requirement upon the President to disburse such foreign aid.

            That went until 1973 when Nixon decided to use his impoundment powers to effectively veto programs by cutting off their funds.

            In response to that by Nixon, Congress passed the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. Title X in the act is commonly referred to as the Impoundment Control Act (or ICA), and it requires the president to report to Congress when he impounds funds as a deferment (or a temporary delay) or a recission (a permanent cancellation) of spending. But still, did not obligate the president to actually disburse foreign aid and the reason is that congress can not tell the executive they are required to disburse foreign aid – they are co-equal branches, not above each other.

            But since you mentioned veto for funding – actually the president did have line-item veto at one point. This was created in 1996 by Congress in the ‘Line Item Veto Act of 1996’. President Bill Clinton used the line-item veto 82 times during its brief existence, with Congress restoring 39 appropriations. Then In Clinton v. City of New York, the Supreme Court struck down the line-item veto in a 6-3 decision.

            But on the subject of funding, President Biden stopped/paused funding numerous times on programs including foreign aid, actually refused to disbursed funds. The democrats never said a word about it.

            So now we have this lowly inferior court with a left wing liberal activist judge assuming its above the executive branch and can order the executive branch to do something or not do something that’s within the constitutional power of the executive.

            If this had not been a debt (‘money owned for work already done’) this would never have made it to SCOTUS. But the real problem here is the inferior court that did not have the constitutional jurisdictional authority to act as it did to begin with. The ‘entity’ to who the funds were owed could have sued, in a lawsuit and that’s where this should have gone.

          • Try this on…

            Just as Trump has put Elon in charge of DOGE, deciding who and what to cut, the United States Congress has put the executive leadership of the USAID in charge of deciding which programs to fund and contracts to engage in order to meet the goal of the legislation passed by Congress.

            Anywho, the Supreme Court ruled against Donald Trump and ordered him to release the funds from the treasury.

            There are other court cases regarding the funding passed by Congress moving forward, this should prove interesting.

          • @Mynnr49r (AKA ‘Miner49er’, AKA Mynr49r, AKA ‘Missy12’)

            “Try this on…

            Just as Trump has put Elon in charge of DOGE, deciding who and what to cut, the United States Congress has put the executive leadership of the USAID in charge of deciding which programs to fund and contracts to engage in order to meet the goal of the legislation passed by Congress.”

            Try this on … stop pushing false crap Mynnr49r.

            1. Trump did not “put Elon in charge of DOGE to decide “who and what to cut,”

            Elon – Doge – does not decide anything. They are simply doing audits and recommendations to bring to light the fraud-waste-abuse. They have zero authority in “deciding who and what to cut”. Those decisions are up to the agency heads or Trump.

            2. The United States Congress HAS NOT “put the executive leadership of the USAID in charge of deciding which programs to fund and contracts to engage in order to meet the goal of the legislation passed by Congress.”

            Congress has zero authority to put any one or any agency in the executive branch in charge of anything. What part of ‘co-equal’ branches of government do you not understand? Which part of Article II, Section I of the U.S. constitution that says “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.” do you not understand?

            Congress can allocate funding in this respect of foreign aid that’s it. They can not force or order or decide or require if the President or any person or agency in the executive branch ‘perform actions/work’ to disburse foreign aid.

            But this is not ‘foreign aid’, but rather a debt of ‘claimed work performed’

            This was a ‘debt’ for ‘claimed performance/work’ already performed in the Biden admin and Biden didn’t pay it. Biden actually did the same thing, he froze the funds for payment and the democrats said nothing about it, the NGO’s said nothing about it, the left wingers said nothing about it, the media said nothing about it, and there was no liberal left wing judge in a lower court that stepped in trying to order the president around. Then along comes Trump and this fraud is discovered…and all these suddenly condemn Trump for not wanting to pay for fraud which he is specifically obligated by law and constitutionally to not pay.

            Why is it that left-wingers think the words ‘foreign aid’ is somehow ‘magical’ and the media always shows pictures of food being unloaded in foreign lands supposedly to feed ‘starving people’?

            Its because they are stupid, that’s why. Less than 15% of what people think is ‘foreign aid’ actually gets to the people who actually need it. The rest of the money goes into the pockets of the NGO’s who are supposedly doing these ‘foreign aid’ projects.

            Supposedly, according to the left-wing media and the rest of the ones who are crying about ‘oh those poor people will not get their foreign aid, Trump bad’ – specific projects affected by the payment freeze include the installation of new irrigation and water pumping stations in Ukraine; waterworks upgrades in Lagos, Nigeria; the supply of medical equipment in Vietnam and Nepal; and measures to combat malaria in Kenya, Uganda, Ghana and Ethiopia.

            But that’s not really true.

            This ‘work’ had already been (claimed to have been) performed in the Biden admin. In other words all these supposedly “specific projects affected by the” Trump “payment freeze” had already been done and there are none of these “specific projects affected” now. The NGO’s are claiming they did the ‘work’ under the contract and are asking they be paid FOR WHAT THEY ALREADY (claimed they) DID (those projects “specific projects” above), for what the government did not pay them for in the Biden admin, not for what they want to do in the ‘future’.

            But why did Trump want to hold up the payment – Its because those “specific projects” for which the NGO’s are claiming they did work to complete… were not done by these NGO’s as they claim and the supposed ‘projects’ never received the ‘foreign aid’, instead they only received less than 10% of that ‘foreign aid’ and the rest of the money went into the NGO’s pockets. This is fraud and corruption.

            But because it is a debt now and not actually ‘foreign aid’ any longer … once the ‘work’ is claimed to have been performed its no longer ‘foreign aid’ (because the money was expended thus the ‘foreign aid’ money was expended – it goes on the books as a ‘debt’ if those claiming the work done are owed for their claimed work, even if the work was not actually done and this is the part of USAID used to pay out billions of $$$ that was fraudulent and that’s the case here).

            But forcing a President to pay what is essentially a ‘fraudulent claim debt’ … yeah, you should be a little upset that your tax dollars are going to pay for fraud and enriching an NGO but in your ignorance and left-wing death cult mental illness all you want to do is scream ‘TURMPPPPPPP BAD’.

          • correction for: “What part of ‘co-equal’ branches of government do you not understand?”

            should have been…

            What part of ‘co-equal’ branches of government and separation of powers do you not understand?

          • “they only received less than 10% of that ‘foreign aid’ and the rest of the money went into the NGO’s pockets“

            You made that claim, now would you be kind enough to provide source documents or a citation to back up your claim with specific information supporting your assertion.

            Otherwise it’s just more empty speech, empty speech you’re using to justify Trump’s incompetence.

            Meanwhile, Draft-dodger Elon Musk is cutting 80,000 employees from the veterans administration.

            “Military.com | By Rebecca Kheel
            Updated March 05, 2025 at 6:46pm ET | Published March 05, 2025 at 2:40pm ET

            The Department of Veterans Affairs plans to fire more than 80,000 employees under a sweeping reorganization effort being planned to comply with President Donald Trump’s orders to slash the federal government, according to an internal VA memo obtained by Military.com.“

            Tell me, do you think cutting 80,000 employees from the VA will improve response time for veterans who need their services?

          • These NGO’s are a scam, plain and simple, even the judges involved in these cases are involved in these types of scams…

            Judge’s Failure To Recuse Himself From Trump Spending Freeze Case Shows How Court Is Rigged.

            “A nonprofit board member himself, Judge McConnell has a motive to keep federal funding flowing to nonprofits.

            Judge John McConnell, chief judge of the federal district court of Rhode Island, has such a deep conflict of interest in one of the Trump Administration’s spending freeze cases that it is obvious he should have recused himself. …

            When the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) told federal department heads in January to place a temporary pause on grant, loan, and other financial assistance programs, the left rushed to court to fight it. The OMB wanted to assure taxpayer money was not going to support programs promoting diversity equity and inclusion (DEI), woke gender ideology, and the Green New Deal.

            McConnell has held an 18-year leadership role in Crossroads Rhode Island, a $31 million nonprofit that gets over half its funding from federal money. It received more than $18 million in 2023 according to its tax exempt 990 form, first reported by researchers at America First Legal (AFL).
            ….: ” (millions paid to the NGO’s leadership) …

            Helping the poor is lucrative when the taxpayers foot the bill. In 2023, Crossroads Rhode Island’s highest paid employee was then-CEO Karen Santilli, who earned almost $374,000 including base salary and deferred compensation, the nonprofit’s tax exempt 990 form shows. Santilli has since left Crossroads Rhode Island to become the CEO of the YMCA of Greater Providence.

            The U.S. Supreme Court offered a split decision Wednesday, with the majority (5-4) siding with Washington, D.C. District Court Judge Amir Ali, a Biden appointee. The decision directs the State Department and United States Agency for International Development (USAID) to pay $2 billion to nongovernmental groups for ‘work already completed’.

            https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/05/judges-failure-to-recuse-himself-from-trump-spending-freeze-case-shows-how-court-is-rigged/

          • These NGO’s and non-profits like so many others are getting their pockets lined with tax payer dollars. The vast majority of all this ‘aid’ and grants and contracts money goes into the pockets of the NGO’s. Then there are the tax dollars being paid to pay for peoples personal choices of trans sex changes and transitioning and elective abortions, and then tax dollars used for for pushing marx -ist social -ist programs and institutionalized racism via DEI programs, and so much more fraud … and along the way billions of dollars are going to line the pockets of those involved. Tax payers should be outraged over this, working hard for their money then have to pay taxes on it and their tax dollars go to make others rich – these NGO’s are the biggest fraud and corruption scams in history.

            $20 Billion in ‘Green Pork’ Fattens the Wallets of Radical Left NGOs and Non-Profits.

            https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2025/03/05/20-billion-in-green-pork-fattens-the-wallets-of-radical-left-ngos-and-non-profits-n4937602

          • Tell me you have never been treated at the VA without telling me. You could fire 75% of the employees before you notice a decline in care for the veterans with some centers being better or worse than the average above. For the most part we see a mix of motivated and qualified workers who quickly burn out and move on to other jobs and a large majority of deadwood that would be sued out of existence if they worked in a real hospital. Cry more most of them deserve to be fired and things will only improve for vets just like when Trump gave us the ability to get service connected injuries treated at providers outside the VA.

          • “Tell me, do you think cutting 80,000 employees from the VA will improve response time for veterans who need their services?”

            yes, I do. The ‘80,000’ are not actually doing any work, or actually involved with, services to veterans (and most of them are not actual federal employees but rather contract employees being paid twice to three times what an actual federal employee would be paid plus the millions paid to the companies they are contracted from is wayyyy over the top). But their continued employment is sucking up money paying them to essentially do nothing and that money can be used to improve service to veterans.

            “Meanwhile, Draft-dodger Elon Musk is cutting 80,000 employees from the veterans administration.”

            Once again, 100% false.

            Yes, Elon Musk left South Africa at the age of 17 to avoid mandatory military service, stating that he did not want to spend time “suppressing black people” in the army. He did not ‘dodge the draft’ there or in the U.S. – he left South Africa to avoid mandatory conscription designed to oppress black people and such is not a ‘draft’. This is a very brave and right thing to do.

            And once again, Elon is not cutting anyone. Elon – DOGE does not decide anything. They are simply doing audits and recommendations to bring to light the fraud-waste-abuse. They have zero authority in “deciding who and what to cut”. Those decisions are up to the agency heads or Trump.

            Stop pushing this left-wing lie that Elon – DOGE are making all these types of decisions and doing all this.

          • FACT: Under the Biden Administration, the National Institutes of Health doled out millions of dollars in taxpayer-funded grants for institutions across the country to perform transgender experiments on mice.

            $455,000: “A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”
            $2,500,000: “Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration”
            “These mice manifest defects in ovarian architecture and have altered folliculogenesis.”
            $299,940: “Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes”
            “We will compare the incidences and tumor specific survival in female mice (intact) and oophorectomized female mice receiving TT with their respective counterparts that do not receive TT.”
            $735,113: “Microbiome mediated effects of gender affirming hormone therapy in mice”
            $1,200,000: “Androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis”
            “Aim 2 utilizes transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens acting via AR specifically in kisspeptin neurons are necessary and/or sufficient for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters, including pulse frequency, and the estrogen-induced LH surge.”
            $3,100,000: “Gonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthma”
            “We will study the contributions of estrogens to HDM-induced asthma outcomes using male and female gonadectomized mice treated with estradiol…”

            TOTAL: $8,290,053

            Tax dollars going to pay for transgender mice for cripes sake.

        • But it was for ‘work’ already done during Bidens term, not a grant contract and those can be cancelled.

          This was stuff done during the Biden-Harris tyranny and crazy. Why didn’t Biden pay the bills due during his term?

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          • “Why didn’t Biden pay the bills due during his term?“

            The bills did not come due during Biden’s term, when Trump became president he assumed the responsibility of executing the payments directed by the United States Congress.

            That’s why they call it the ‘Executive Branch’.

          • @Mynnr49r

            “The bills did not come due during Biden’s term”

            100% false

            This was a ‘debt’ for ‘claimed performance/work’ already performed in the Biden admin and Biden didn’t pay it. Biden actually did the same thing, he froze the funds for payment and the democrats said nothing about it, the NGO’s said nothing about it, the left wingers said nothing about it, the media said nothing about it, and there was no liberal left wing judge in a lower court that stepped in trying to order the president around. Then along comes Trump and this fraud is discovered…and all these suddenly condemn Trump for not wanting to pay for fraud (see my previous post above) which he is specifically obligated by law and constitutionally to not pay.

    • Yeah, SCOTUS did that. But it was for ‘work’ already done, not a current grant contract and those can be cancelled.

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    • My bad but a correction. SCOTUS did not rule on this but upheld lower court TRO which will be reviewed by them again tomorrow. This could end up going back to SCOTUS again depending on how it goes in the lower court.

      I normally post a link but my that seems to keep my posts from being published.

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  12. This is nothing more than a bunch of worthless Democrat politicians grandstanding for their almost as worthless supporters. They know this has a snowballs chance in he11 of passing. Red meat for their gun control freak buddies.

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  13. Let’s not lose the forest for the trees! Personally, I strongly SUPPORT the buyback plan, given that the removal of these dangerous items is clearly crucial to our nation’s very survival!!! Clearly, given the emergency nature of this matter, the proponents would be instantly supportive of a buyback price of $10 million per mag holding between 10 and 20 rounds, and $20 million for those holding (gasp!) more then 20. I mean, it really, REALLY is important, right?

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  14. Father of Marine Killed at Abbey Gate Shocked at Dems’ Reaction to News of ISIS Top Dog’s Arrest.

    “Mark Schmitz’s son, Marine Lance Cpt. Jared Schmitz, was one of the thirteen American service members who were killed in the Islamic State-Khorasan Province (ISIS-K) attack at Kabul’s Abbey Gate on Aug. 26, 2021. Mark Schmitz was thus watching President Trump’s Tuesday night address to Congress with intense interest as Trump announced that Mohammad Sharifullah, who planned the jihad operation at Abbey Gate that day, had been arrested. To Schmitz’s shock, however, the Democrats in the audience didn’t seem in the least pleased at the news. Welcome to the Democrat Party, 2025: the party that hates Trump so much, it readily sides with those who kill Americans.
    …”

    https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2025/03/05/father-of-marine-killed-at-abbey-gate-shocked-at-dems-reaction-to-news-of-isis-top-dogs-arrest-n4937616

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    • As a former Democrat, I can tell you, the Democrat party is evil. Pure evil. Satanic evil. Pedophile evil. War loving evil. Communists/socialist/fascist evil.

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  15. ‘Election Denial’ Is Cool Again!: (Foul mouthed ignorant) Maxine Waters Has a Theory About Musk and His ‘High-Tech A**’ (note: yes, the same Maxine Waters that gave $1 million in campaign funds to her daughter, she has a history of distributing campaign funds to family members – yes, the crime that’s been ignored ’cause democrat. Yes, the same Maxine Waters that called on democrats left-wing loon followers to physically attack and assault, and even kill, basically anyone who did not vote democrat especially Trump supporters. Yeah, that Maxine Waters.)

    “Instead of recognizing what message the voters sent in November, the Democrats have obviously decided to double and triple down on the kinds of crazy that got them beaten badly in the last election.

    One of those Democrats is Rep. Maxine Waters, who is trying to go back in time in an attempt to make Trump’s second term an illegitimate one.
    …” (videos of Maxine and her stupid at link below)

    (note: ‘Election denial’ is, according to democrats, a grave threat to the very fabric of our nation, but only if a Republican does it.)

    https://twitchy.com/dougp/2025/03/05/maxine-waters-has-a-theory-about-musk-and-his-high-tech-a-hint-election-denial-is-cool-again-n2409364

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  16. How much longer until we just eliminate the Democrat party? No one wants to live near Democrats or be around them. They hate themselves.

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  17. The worst school shooting in U.S. history, at Virginia Tech in 2007, with 32 dead (33 if you count the shooter), was perpetrated with a pair of handguns, and a backpack full of magazines, none of which held more than 15 rounds.

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