You know the old Irving Kristol saw: a (neo)conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality. Another truism: there’s no zealot like a convert. But does the same thing translate to gun rights? Is a pro-2A supporter a gun grabber who’s been (literally) mugged? Unfortunately for Jon Fogg, we may have a perfect case study to see if Kristol’s theory holds true where armed self defense is concerned. Fogg, an editor at the Baltimore Sun, was coming home late from work on January 14 when he was allegedly met on the street by Mustafa Eraibi, who demanded his cash . . .
From Fogg’s web site:
As I was walking to my apartment from my car, I was attacked. Although I handed over my wallet, car keys and laptop, the assailant hit me in the head with a landscaping brick multiple times before fleeing in my car.
Fogg suffered multiple skull fractures, cuts, several broken teeth and some broken fingers in the attack. Eraibi was apprehended late last week when he used Fogg’s credit cards and was caught on camera.
It may not surprise you to hear that this wasn’t Eraibi’s first brush with the law.
From wbaltv.com:
Eraibi was charged with robbery and assault in at least two previous cases but he was not prosecuted. When 11 News asked about this, the Baltimore City State’s Attorney’s Office did not provide an explanation.
Of course they didn’t.
We don’t know Fogg’s stance on armed self defense. He’s a relatively anonymous sports editor, not a member of The Sun’s editorial board. But given the voting patterns of members of the mainstream media – particularly those at a big city, anti-gun, dead tree daily – it doesn’t seem like much of a stretch to assume he sympathizes with his paper’s pro-gun control stance. Or he did.
Would almost being beaten to death on the street change that? Could someone who thought that civilian disarmament was a common sense solution to the problem of urban crime have his mind changed by a brick? It appears that Mr. Fogg will make a full recovery and happier about that we could not be. But we’d love to know how his views on armed self defense may have evolved in the aftermath of his victimization. If, in fact, they have.
[h/t Dirk Diggler]
I wonder why pediatricians aren’t treating the 18 to 20 year-olds that require emergency treatment in SWA and Africa? And what about the VA, treating 18, 19 and 20 year-olds in the US? No pediatricians there, last time I looked. Were those ER admissions included?
This “Doctor” is a bold-faced liar. Period.
He’ll be fired for sure if he’s writes an opinion piece proclaiming a pro-gun stance.
Not necessarily. Stephen Hunter wrote for the Sun for many years.
I also wonder how many little Mustafas that the big Mustafa has running around? Which good Mr. Fogg’s taxes likely go to raise into the next generation of street predators. All odds leaning towards, since the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
There’s a certain, I don’t even know how to say it, but a certain morbid appreciation for the sick genius of a social system setup to extract riches under force of law (and I do mean force – try telling the tax man to go take a leap – and see who visits you next) from the productive in order to suckle the next generation of those who will rob, rape and kill them.
‘Merica man!
uhh, there is a bit of – what is it called – i’m thinking – oh yeah irony on the editors blog:
I don’t think defense means what he thinks it means. I worked in Baltimore, and you are not even allowed to carry a stun gun.
Oh Lord. I take back what I said. This guy will not change his mind.
He sounds like type who will next be saying “It’s my fault really, for existing in my privilege and not doing enough to help people like my attacker reach their true potential.”
News flash Mr. Fogg, you can be certain that Mustafa and his pals are doing exactly what they want to be, and enjoy doing.
Derp.
I wonder who the chick is with Fogg and how he will feel (helpless) watching her get gang raped by his attackers buddies when they show up to finish in a year’s time?
She’s probably carrying illegally. Just look at the smile.
Color me skeptical that a member of a “news” media will learn any lesson from this. Most sports reporters want to fancy themselves as just like their news beat brethren and are usual even more useless than their news counterparts. In the age where these papers are losing readers and subscriptions, partly because the product is utter crap, the editors act like they don’t care and the public is too stupid. In some cases, you are more ill informed if you read these papers than if you read nothing. So will he learn? In my best Malcolm McDowell voice, “he probably won’t. ….but he might.”
maybe we should post his work address and email here and let the peanut gallery inquire of his political views going forward?
501 N. Calvert Street
Baltimore, MD
21278
410-332-6215
[email protected]
“Eraibi was charged with robbery and assault in at least two previous cases but he was not prosecuted. When 11 News asked about this, the Baltimore City State’s Attorney’s Office did not provide an explanation”.
This is UNACCEPTABLE. If a public servant is asked a legitimate question it is their civil duty to answer it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You’re funny. It’s Bawlmer. Get with the program.
Hickock’s gotta get my top vote. If every other channel went away, I could get by with his. Barely.
I’ve been eating up Shootingthebull410’s ammo quest videos lately! Top notch info!
Richard Ryan (RatedRR) sets the bar for jaw dropping entertainment.
I really enjoy everything Colion Noir and Billy Johnson put out on the political front. Colion’s voice overs where he compares his guns to women make me smile, too.
For brain dead fun, I used to really like FPSRussia. He’s really lost his mojo, though. I’ve gotta say, CarniK Con and Dynamic Pie Concepts do a better job at the silly stuff.
I’m not so into Yeager, Nutnfancy or MAC these days. Yeager’s a bit to into himself, Nutnfancy videos are too long, and MAC really let me down with his KSG review (I own two; my experience has been totally positive, and MACs hands-on just doesn’t make sense to me after handling mine).
Certainly, there’s a mall shooting so go to the nearest good guys house & take his guns. Maybe when a minority commits a crime all minorities should lose their civil rights, as they want for us. I’d ask what they’re smokin…. Randy
I just left this message on their contact page online
“Hey, Heard you were selling 9mm ammo now. Thats great… well good luck with that cuz I’ll never do business with you again. Remember how you screwed everyone so bad during the gun-ban craze last year? Well we all sure remember!”
Just picked my 2nd one up today, first one I sold this weekend when all the hype was still thick and made some extra $$$ on it , the only thing I didn’t like was the slide release, it seems stiff and small ( story of my life )so I put an extended slide release on it , works perfect now it has a little more meat on it to get my fat fingers on. Cant wait to see if Glock comes out with a single stack 9mm soon.
Looks more like grandmoms demand action!
I’m thinking his mindset requires him to think “OMG! If that guy had had a gun instead of a brick, I might have gotten hurt!”
On MDA in Tenn: to paraphrase Ron “Tater Salad” White, you can medicate menopause but, you can’t fix stupid.
Reminds me of an old song by Ben Colder – Hello Wall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_d_Hqcwt2E
Re the backyard shooting range – read it; lots of the usual bleating, likewise in the comments.
But I couldn’t find the web poll referenced above. Link?
Or perhaps it was taken down if the 75/25 split persisted…
Which threat harms more ‘students’ on an annual basis?
Violence Abroad
Guns in Schools
Academia nuts…..
I’m going to go with the nuts. She certainly has.
Yeah…..about that. So waht your saying is no guns on campus? Or are you aluding to CWP holders walking around pointing guns at people? Because that is absolutely fantasy on your part. Why do people feel certain locations must be free of one right but absurd in another regard.
Sad thing is there are alot of NPR listeners that think she’s something profound.
The problem with dueling is that people who do not want to initiate or accept duels are socially pressured into doing so. We see this in American subcultures which experience different social norms due to being centered around street-level black market commerce. With two completely willing people independently deciding to duel, I think it’s fine of course, but it’s hard to allow it and not have the social aspects creep in.
This government couldn’t even disarm Afganistan, let alone Iraq. How’s the Syria disarmament campaign going? Hell, we’re actually arming them. Their odds in America don’t look too good.
The object of a duel was not to kill but to wound. Men dying in a duel was rare. Burr, was a mean spirited ass who shot to kill and to prevent even being wounded he liked to wear oversized coats to make it even harder to actually even hit him. Hamilton fired first missing Burr. Burr, who personally hated Hamilton, patiently took careful aim and killed him.
I have been banned from the TN and SC chapters. Inquiring on the national page if this is how they react to dissenting views.
Have pointed a bunch of my friends at them. They are also getting banned.
dont think offering the masses more welfare benefits will last much longer
the problem is someone has to be earning enough to pay taxes to give it away.
Think the limit is coming to that train.
they cannot disarm us all so long as there is plentiful public lands to cache forbidden property for future retrieval. Though i think a contemporary uprising might be more beneficial to the Constitution, rather then suffer for long without rights as serfs to the elite.
Assuming it’s legit, the woman who found the rifle posted comments to the original story, and the paper has posted a follow-up with pictures of the rifle, the case, the magazine, etc.
http://redondobeach.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/photos-governmentissued-assault-rifle-found-in-redondo-beach
According to the woman who found the rifle, the case was ticking — turned out the ticking sound was caused by one of those recordable greeting cards inside the case. Maybe a little more understandable why she and the cops freaked about it, although the editor of the story deserves the scorn she’s getting for suggesting that the cops are magnanimously declining to charge the woman who found the rifle.
There are a LOT of variables. I’m guessing having more rounds wouldn’t have made a difference; the shooter appears to have accomplished what he was after, then off’ed himself.
Don’t know if he was proficient with firearms or not. If he was not, having a pistol or rifle might have required more shots to accomplish his ends, plus with a shotty, you see the results immediately.
sooooo every time I see a cop I should flip my shit, and bail? and just assume that the inanimate object is going to kill me and everyone around? sounds rational.
This mayor and way too many of our politicians fail miserably at their ability to read and comprehend. As proof, If they could read, I suspect they would have read the US Constitution; yes the same one they swore to uphold and defend.
Just a refresher on the 2A:
“A WELL REGULATED MILITIA BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”
After having read the US Constitution; if they had any ability to comprehend what they read, the words SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, should be easy to understand. Yet these “I know I am smarter than the fools who elected me” continue to violate the same US Constitution they swore an oath to defend.
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