https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KawYZb94Tbk
In an effort to attempt to rescue his hopes for re-election and a possible future Presidential campaign, Governor Cuomo is now trying to distance himself from the SAFE Act that he was so instrumental in passing. According to a nypost.com article, Cuomo is trying to shift blame for the shoddily worded law to Mayor Bloomberg and the Brady Campaign, saying that they drafted most of the legislation and he didn’t read it. Just like the rest of the NY Legislature didn’t read it before it was hastily crammed down the throats of New Yorkers . . .
“Much of what’s in the law was drafted by people connected to Mayor Bloomberg and the Brady Center, not by the governor’s staff,” the (Cuomo administration) source said. “That’s why there are so many problems with it.’’
Before the massive backlash against the bill began, Cuomo was trying to use the SAFE Act to bolster his Democratic credentials. It looked like he was trying to position himself to be a frontrunner for the 2016 nomination, building himself up as the new Democratic poster boy. But instead of the public rallying to his side, his popularity numbers have taken a nosedive and the largest protests ever recorded in Albany formed against his prized legislation.
Seeing the writing on the wall, it’s now apparently time to distance himself from this steaming pile.
Which raises the question: did Cuomo and the Assembly take the bill’s language directly from the Brady Campaign? And then ram it through under a “message of necessity” without letting anyone read it? [ED: don’t exaggerate: they had twenty-minutes to read the bill.]
If a law drafted by the NRA was enacted, the papers would be crying bloody murder. Instead, since one of their approved special interest groups apparently helped draft the legislation, not a single peep has been heard. Hooray for the state-controlled media.
To Matt, It doesn’t seem to work. I put them there but they go to the bottom. Perhaps the site is undergoing some problem of this sort since I read someone else say the same thing. Any solutions?
There have been other problems in the past with this site that have been completely cleared up by clearing cache and cookies and restarting the browser, but I don’t know if that will fix this problem. Might be worth a try; certainly won’t hurt anything.
Failing.. I imagine that so long as the pro-2A crowd keeps up the pressure on politicians and continues the education campaign the fallout toward gun grabbers is going to be immense, everyone is tired of their BS twisted stats and facts that keep getting found out.. no credibility left
Is it wrong to smile when one enemy throws another enemy under the bus?
Schadenfreude [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude ] one of my favorite guilty pleasures as it applies to leftists. Much like the time when the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior II ran aground on the reef they were trying to prove was being damaged by human action, resulting in them paying a fine for damaging the reef [ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4395572.stm ]. Good times, good times.
YEAH! It’s SO WRONG!! Ha ha ha ha
haha excellent….and nope. It appears you may have that assessment quite right.
So we are racist now? Well…I guess i am, I dislike people who try to take away or limit my rights.
Thanks to Douglas MacKinlay for making us all look good.
Let this serve as evidence to any who would work with Bloomberg or the Brady campaign, they are ideological extremists willing to put you out there to be burned to advance their agenda. They don’t have friends, they have fuel.
Thanks for the advice Matt, but I do that regularly and doesn’t seem to make a difference – bye for now.
I must have hearing damage from years of shooting…I don’t hear the Dog Whistle.
So if I disagree with anything Al Sharpton and his fellow fools say then it must be due my anti-**whatever** tendencies. I think the scariest thing to Al Sharpton is the mere notion that gun owners/gun rights advocates are regular people.
“… Cuomo is trying to shift blame for the shoddily worded law to Mayor Bloomberg and the Brady Campaign, saying that they drafted most of the legislation and he didn’t read it.”
Which is worse? Cuomo advocated for and signed legislation that violates the New York State and United States Constitutions … or he advocated for and signed legislation that he did not read?
How do these clowns ever get to political office?!?!?!?
They give out party favors, much like during Mardi Gras. There is, I think, more than trillion of these party favors in boxes up in some DC warehouse.
I believe its more like Circus and Bread and Cuomo is the chief clown because he has the big red nose.
Either way you look at it, you should see Cuomo desperately trying to save his political career. He looks bad either way though in my book.
When he signed it, he approved and took responsibility for whatever it said, whether it was what he thought it was or not.
New Yorkers, PLEASE hold this guy and the rest of the state legislature that voted FOR the SAFE Act responsible: for passing something they never read, and/or the mere fact it was arbitrary and unconstitutional.
I agree with Jake’s comment above!
The media isn’t state controlled. Don’t believe me? Watch what they do the next time someone with an “R” after their name is President.
What they are is a profession that hires and fires based on ideological grounds, which has resulted in the entire profession being filled with liberals.
Their guy happens to be in office, so they are providing cover. As soon as their guy is out of office, they’ll go back to actually doing their job, which is helping hold government accountable.
Say, doesn’t this open the door for those lawsuits to prevail? Cuomo claimed that the criteria for determining legislation to be an emergency (and bypass the three day wait for legislation) is solely up to the governor. Well how can the governor possibly make any determination about legislation that he did not read?
If the people of New York are to lazy to go out and exploit
These commies for what they are, then New York will reap what it sows.
There is a lot of work to do, with all the bleeding hearts in New York they better get moving
Oh wait, Cuomo deserves a pass because the intent of the New York SAFE act is fine … the problem is that it is shoddily worded.
And back to my original point, Cuomo wants a pass because either he did not actually read the legislation … or because the intent is fine but it is shoddily worded.
Again, how do these clowns get into office?
This is unbelievable. People who can’t read continue to elect officials who won’t read!
Cuomo – “it’s not my fault”
Reality – “Yer sittin’ in the big chair, that means it IS your fault”
This is now a valid political excuse – “”I didn’t write it, nor did I read it”. Really?????
Leaving MA for TX or possibly another southern state in the next year or so.
Maybe the White House isn’t interested in a Firearms Registry, but ATF certainly has it underway – under the guise of “Tracing”:
1. Multiple Sale Reports. Reported as 4.2 million records in 2010.
2. Suspect Guns. All guns “suspected” of being used for criminal purposes but not recovered by law enforcement. This database includes (ATF’s own examples), individuals purchasing large quantities of firearms (including collectors of older firearms rarely used in crime), and dealers with “improper” record keeping. May include guns “observed” by law enforcement in an estate, or at a gun show, or elsewhere. Reported as 34,807 in 2010.
3. Traced Guns. Over 1.2 million (2002) detail results from all traces. ATF reported 343,746 guns were traced in 2009, and a total of 4 million traces since inception This is a registration record which includes Names and Addresses of the first seller and purchaser, and possibly subsequent purchasers.
4. Out of Business Records. Data is manually collected from paper Out-of-Business records (or input from computer records) and entered into the trace system by ATF. These are registration records which include name and address, make, model, serial and caliber of the firearm(s), as well as data from the 4473 form – in digital or image format. In March, 2010, ATF reported receiving several hundred million records since 1968
5. Theft Guns. Firearms reported as stolen to ATF. Contained 330,000 records in 2010.[4] Contains only thefts from licensed dealers and interstate carriers (optional) Does not have an interface to the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) theft data base, where the majority of thefts are reported.
If ATF’s system is so antiquated, they why are they requiring (since 2008 – ATF Ruling 2008-2) that firearms dealers provide a digital ASCII file of their Out-of-Business records? Doesn’t sound like microfiche to me…. Sounds a lot more like a digital system of registration.
“13. Upon termination of a license, the FFL must provide an American Standard Code for Information Interchange (ASCII) text file (in conformity with industry standards) and a file description, in addition to printouts of all records, to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center. The printout and ASCII text file must contain the information as prescribed by regulation. All records must be forwarded to the ATF Out-of-Business Records Center in accordance with 27 CFR 478.127, including complete printouts, and ASCII text file (and file description) of the A&D records, and all ATF Forms 4473.”
Think we don’t have a Firearms Registry? Think again!
The Governor of NY and Mayor of NYC are always at each other’s throats regardless of which party they belong to. The reason that Bloomberg refused the initial request for the National Guard by the Staten Island Borough President during Sandy was that the Guard is controlled from Albany and does not report to the Mayor. Bloomberg wasn’t going to let Cuomo run relief operations in his City. It is not surprising that Bloomberg would also try to deflect anger over the SAFE Act to Cuomo since it weakens a bitter rival.
actually, Cuomo better hope Bloomberg’s people don’t strike back and pull out the email traffic showing who said what to whom. Now that will be entertaining
@TTAG – you guys ever heard of FOIA requests?? You are the media
“You ARE the Media”….Newsflash…no, the MSM are the ministry of manipulation…aka Department of BS and so forth. Hence they can NEVER tell the People the truth. That is NOT their job. And Hence, O and other’s have tried to place restraints on the Internment (SOPA) and ANY way the people can discover the actual truth wherein they do not have to rely on the BS Media.
If you have watched the Brit Piers Morgan lately, it’s laughable how EVERY NIGHT on his show the Puppet Owned douche bag who hasn’t an independent intelligent thought in his brain apparently- CONTINUALLY Brings up Sandy Hook and Gun Control like the owned baboon he is!
He is told to keep that rhetoric coming so the public hears it enough (you know the saying-if you tell a lie over and over enough then it becomes truth, NOT) and so Piers can try and try to convince (read manipulate brainwash) the people to go to sleep and allow the politicians to incrementally wipe out ALL Rights, Liberties and Private Property.
That is the goal for their NWO in their own words. No National Sovereignty, no Private Property, and damn well if they have their way and can “connive” enough, you will not have ANY guns at all. And of course, there are Internment Camps for the rest who refuse to allow the country to be “fundamentally changed” from chaos to the new world order. It’s on your Federal Dollars…the agenda in your face.
Admitting that he didn’t read it before he led the charge in getting it passed is worse, in my estimation,than simply being the front man for this flawed legislation. This says volumes about this man’s lack of a work ethic. This guy is the worst kind of silver-spoon elitist scum.
Jim Carrey hasnt’t done anything significant since Jenny Mc Carthy.
When did he do anything significant before that?
By the way, as some of you know, I’m a centrist – socially liberal, fiscally conservative and willing to listen before deciding – but I’m also an inveterate punster, so I couldn’t resist:
Right Guard eliminates B.O…
(Anyone quoting the above as “invertebrate punster” will get socked.)
I’ve held one of these, not shot it. It blew my mind how small and balanced it was when the owner told me the kind of range it had. The fact that working the bolt on a bull pup is sort of difficult is pretty much negated by the fact that you’re 1000 yards away from your target. This isn’t a gun designed for people who need 20 rounds to hit the mark. It really is a wonderful feeling weapon, and the price is a result of lots of R&D and a very limited market. As stated above, it runs about $4000 ready to fight.
BTW, Carrey doesn’t seem to be aware that there are a lot of women who own firearms as well as having carry permits.
Does he think they’re compensating for something too?
Robert,
I think it is time to take the “Dan Baum reads TTAG” banner out of the rotation. It isn’t something to be proud of.
We plan on moving NORTH actually. From Connecticut to Vermont.
hymmmn, i just live, where i “Want”!… And take my Guns, with me!… [Fortunately, i Now prefer, the Comforts, of a Warm Climate, with both Atlantic, and Gulf, Waters!]. Take, a “Wild Guess”, where my “Hailng Port”, is?… lol
That’s the state of American political correctness these days. You can only disagree with white, wealthy men without being accused of some nefarious bias.
Really, it’s not Barackus that worries me, as much as I don’t like his policies or his lack of professionalism, I don’t believe he has the tyrannical nature some people ascribe to him.
What worries me is 2016 and the prospect that a true despot like Cuomo, Bloomberg or Attilary could be elected POTUS. Some will say that could never happen, but let’s not forgot those same people said Barackus would never get re-elected either. While I could never envision Obama sending out federal troops to confiscate guns and in the process launch a second American Rebellion that would send the entire world into chaos, I fear an ego-maniac with a severe case of little man syndrome (Bloomberg) or feminist ambition (Hillary) would have no such qualms in showing the world how “tough” they are by taking a war to the streets of America to further an agenda.
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking things will necessarily get better in 2016.
Don’t forget another BUSH is wanting to put his peas in the pot….Lord Help us….but no, they are ALL wanting this Order out of CHAOS that THEY CREATE….it’s on the Fed. Reserve Notes you use everyday…..THAT is the Agenda…and they have INCREMENTALLY ushered it upon us. CHAOS….leads to their designed NWO. All of this is connected. There are those “inside” working at the top echelons promoting it, and some trying to stop it…there is war be waged behind the scenes that we are not being shown. Sound like Crooked CONS-Aspiring in the background…You BET! Not a theory…the Cons are definitely conspiring to implement this Change.
Come see us in South Carolina. The Greenville-Spartanburg area is your engineer/techie corridor. Lots of forests & we’re up to our you-know-whats in deer.
And…..unlike PA, IL, NY, & other states, SC is not dominated by the politics of any one city.
At least the people in the video weren’t getting off to it. Really bloodthirsty hunters can be creepy.
As a life long New York City resident (except for a small stint in Chicago, another bastion of 2nd amendment freedom,) my 5 year plan is a move to the tenessee/georgia area. Colorado was on my horizon, but exited due to the recent mag changes (wife and I had already decided on the steamboat springs area,) luckily my wife is southerner from nw georgia so she is more than happy with the change. Btw I could probably qualify for a full carry in nyc, definitely a conditional carry, but I choose not to due to the draconian conditions that accompany the permit.
The guy that got famous by talking out of his a$$, makes a video, as well as tweets out his a$$, and we’re surprised?
He should go back to ignoring Jenny Mccarthy’s kid, and stick to espousing more dangerous rhetoric about vaccines.
I can appreciate the sudden, quick death, no pain argument. But something about the slow mo still bothers me. It’s just not the way mother nature intends for any animal to die. Better that another wild animal do the slow killing, instead of a man-made projectile.
A couple years ago I set a date to move to Wyoming from California. Now I’m 4 months away. I had this plan before Sandy Hook, so I guess I don’t really count
Lot of straw purchase FUD. Buying a gun with the intention of giving it to another is only illegal if the other person could not legally acquire it themselves or the intent was to illegally transfer or otherwise circumvent the law. For example:
– Buying a rifle for your 12 year old son = 100% legal.
– Buying a rifle in a state with registration requirements with the intent to hand it to somebody who could buy one but doesn’t want the paper trail = illegal
– Buying a rifle for your local crack dealer in exchange for the latest product = illegal
I used to watch a lot of their videos until they started making documentaries of American gun owners. There was one about gun owners in Texas or something, and from their tone you could definitely tell that they are liberally-inclined. Though, of course, there are some of their videos (Alarma! From Mexico City) that make a good case for gun owners, whether or not it was intentional.
Yes, Liberty is terrifying, isn’t it?
Give that Store owner a Cigar! Give Mark Kelly a raspberry!
Convenient, this — now that’s law, and all.
“Just help me get it signed into law, and then you can ‘disavow’ all suport for it, heh heh’ heh.. hoo.
I served with Private Sellers in the military many years ago, and there’s no way that he’s making 40% of all gun sales. 1% maybe, but that’s the absolute max.
ANY checking of the facts would be anathema to the anti-2a crowd, but that is to be expected if the available facts fly in the face of a given position. The intent is to achieve a given goal irrespective of the route chosen-hence lies, half truths and fudged figures. The fact that the FBI has recent figures available, and these figures demonstrate that the numbers are dropping should be a wakeup call to the antis-but alas that would nip their case in the bud, so let’s stick to figures that support the anti argument, truth not withstanding.
I really wondered why Wayne LaPierre let that 40% stat slide on Meet the Press last Sunday when asked a question by David Gregory. Instead he answered a different question than was asked and looked shifty in the process.
The numbers might be true if you start the study when guns started to be mass produced. Do they even say when the start and end date of the study is? You could make some pretty crazy statistics that way.
Until I heard dip-$h!+ “Barnacle” refer to his religious affiliation, it never even crossed my mind.
Personally, I don’t care if he’s a Jew, Christian, atheist, or Gay — I don’t find it appropriate for the mayor of New York to operate as if he’s the President of the United States. I find it to be offensive in the highest degree. I didn’t vote for him and he does not legally represent me in any manner or fashion as a citizen of the USA and a resident of VA. He can freely represent his constituents all he wants. Just leave me (and the rest of America) the hell alone.
86.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Many People forget that there are really 2 parts to New York. Most of Upstate moderate to conservative (Red). The county I live in is about as conservative as it gets. All the counties in upstate have passed or in the process of passing resolutions against the NYSAFE act. Even Albany county. Downstate is the liberal bastion. Unfortunately they have the population there. I think the Gov is feeling the pressure and now is looking for a way to blame someone else. He’s looking at reelection and not liking what is happening to his popularity (diving).
I had no idea who Mayor James Schiliro was until I Google’d this:
http://articles.philly.com/2013-03-22/news/37940199_1_schiliro-whelan-report-states
Ugh… sounds like a despicable guy.
Sounds like Delaware’s about to get a taste of what has been going on here in Kalifornia for a long time. And now with Democratic supermajorities in both the Kal Senate and Assembly, the rabid gun grabbers are sponsoring additional bills to make it even worse.
Think Delaware’s bills are bad, check out:
http://cgssa.org/stopthetyranny
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=715185
Organize and fight hard.
Go DisThunder, better get a Hold Harmless!
Wow, NYS wants ALL 10 digits fingerprinted?? What’s the reasoning behind all 10 fingers to be fingerprinted? Sorry, that’s too much personal information for me to give to such a draconian state or any state for that matter. The questions in this form really doesn’t make any sense. The first one is especially a catch 22. They really need to separate personal work and military in two separate questions and NOT put them together like that. Plus, so I was fired from my job…so what? If I was discharged from the military, ok perhaps valid point… Putting these two together doesn’t make any sense at all though.
Carey is nothing more than Shiney Keys to prevent you from seeing what is happening under your nose.
Your school system is being sovietized.
All those 1950’s Red Menace Movies?
They are comming true.
On a Massive Scale
Keep in mind they’re talking about plinking rounds, not JHP defense rounds. Anyway, welcome to the real world LEOs!
Colt New Agent NIB, no night sights with questionable reliability and accuracy about $1000 on Gunbroker
vs
SIG p220 Compact SAO, night sights with SIG P220 reliability and accuracy about $600 at CDNN
A good example of that old adage that you don’t always get what you pay for.
Personally I’m a big fan of Nikon optics. I’m a man of modest means and have found that Nikon offers outstanding quality for the money. A Nikon Monarch 1-4×20 German #4 is on my wish list for my AR. I loves me a German #4 reticle.
Josh Sugarmann… Feinstein, Shumer. Are we seeing A pattern here?
Ah Governor Cuomo…..getting nervous about your political future? You shouldn’t have treaded on the 2 Amendment! I like the hacker group ‘Anonymous’ motto: WE DO NOT FORGIVE! WE DO NOT FORGET! It seems to apply here.
Lots of non-gun owners see the writing on the wall after this was passed in the middle of the night so the press and government body could not react until 2 days later. Did they really think a law that literally disarmed NYS Police was a good thing? I’m not a New Yorker according to my Governor anyway, elect him out move away to a tax friendly state is the plan.
That makes it all better, oh wait no it doesn’t. IM NOT VOTING FOR YOU…..