The wheels of justice grind slow but they grind exceedingly fine. Or so the saying goes. Eight Jersey City (NJ) gang members busted for felony gun possession after flaunting same in their video D.F.G – MoneyCello (Monticello reference?) may be a case in point. Or not. Garden State police said they only saw the rap video a few months ago. Hello? The video was posted June 1, 2014. Anyway, “Officials believe that at least one of the guns is real, while a second gun may be a replica,” nj.com reports. Their belief was based on expert – expert! – analysis . . ..
According to the police report, Jersey City and Hudson County officers relied on the expert opinion of the Newark Police Department’s Ballistic Laboratory to determine that one of the handguns was a real Hi Point semi-automatic, either 9mm or .380 caliber.
According to the police report, Jones, Hill and Bowens handle the guns in the 3-minute, 39-second video, which police believe was made between May 25 and May 31, 2014, on Monticello Avenue and Brinkerhoff Street and other locations.
During the filming, officials believe, crimes committed were unlawful possession of a handgun, possession of a handgun by a felon and possession of a handgun by a minor, the report says.
Proving that a long-gone gun in a video isn’t a fake is likely to fall squarely into the legal box labelled “reasonable doubt.” Still, something had to be done! Now watch it become undone. Except for all the drug-related charges resulting from the fruit of the poisoned tree (the original bust).
I am Oooooo-fended!
Is it because criminals have been getting them from states with lax laws?
Idiot american gun-thumpers.
You nailed it. Other than California, Hawaii, and the tiny states from Maryland to Massachusetts, state laws not only allow, but encourage giving rappers objects that may or may not be real guns to use in their videos glorifying violence and the criminal life.
Why if we’d just fix these laws, those fine young convicted felons would create a video that shows them helping out at a soup kitchen, or cleaning up litter along the highway.
Here is the south fine young men like these are always seen cleaning up litter on the side of the highway, complete with stylish orange uniforms.
Or just stealing them from people in states with restrictive gun laws.
Idiot, Norwegian over-generalizer.
I seem to recall a particularly gruesome mass murder of teens in your country that wasn’t stopped By fascist gun laws. Bravo.
ZING!
+1,000
On 22 July 2011, Anders Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb amid government buildings in Oslo, Norway – then SHOT DEAD 69 participants of a Workers’ Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya.
Did he get that gun from an American state with lax gun laws?
bunch of thugs
No 2A rights for “thugs?”
I’d really like to see how they prove it’s real. There are lots of airsoft guns are 1:1 aesthetically realistic. Even if they “shot” the gun, modern off-the-shelf (or off the torrent) VFX software makes very realistic gun effects for videos.
Pretty sure there are no Hi-Point airsoft guns. There are some very realistic airsoft replicas, but they tend towards mil sim or higher end civilian stuff.
Unfortunately for the fine young men in that video, they point the firearm at the camera about 1 foot from the camera. That means you can clearly see the muzzle and even the rifling in the barrel. Those are not replicas.
How many times have we heard of idiots getting busted because they filmed their misadventures and them posted them on the web?
Never go full retard. Doesn’t just apply to trolls.
People rap about killing each other, but you know what’s the real problem in America? The Stars and Bars. Yup, we are laser focused on the REAL issues of today. Good grief.
Oh, and “Guns!” (had to put something related to the topic. 🙂 )
If you think the confederate flag OR rap music is the primary cause of violence in America, you need some re education.
I have a rebel flag motorcycle helmet and I listen to rap music. I’ve never killed anyone, but I do have a couple speeding tickets on my record.
Believe that was sarcasm about the flag.
Sarcasm, guys. I think the smiley face is a clue, if you need one. That and the “good grief” part.
Wayne? Wayne, is that you? I thought video games were the cause of violence in America? What? What’s that you say? Get off your lawn?!
No poison tree here; law enforcement had probable cause, irrespective to whether any of the firearms turns out to be an actual firearm.
Going to play devils advocate, without finding the guns themselves, how can they prove that they were not replicas or air soft guns?
They can’t. But maybe they can use it to get warrants where they find other evidence, or maybe they can get a plea out of one of the guys who isn’t willing to risk being a black man on trial in America.
Who the hell would make a replica Hi-Point?
Then again, it might have just been a piece of pressure-treated 2×4 glued to a cinder block. Visually indistinguishable from a Hi-Point pistol.
I don’t know about the legal issues surrounding busting these guys a year later, but I do know that neighborhood very well. You need a real gun, or maybe a squad of infantry.
And here’s why I’m leaving JC on Sunday.
Replica high-point? Gotta cost more than the real thing.
Just like an airsoft Mosin 91/30 costs twice as much as a real one.
Wait…wait…WTF?
Upside is you can actually shoot other people with it (with their consent, of course).
Nice to see Hi-Point getting so much press today.
Yet legally permitted persons from other states are arrested and processed in minutes?!
Legal permit=oxymoron in New Jersey
YouTube and Facebook. Making police investigations easier through self-incrimination.
I don’t have a problem with them rapping about guns. It’s the use of the n word that’s a issue. Oh wait, no it’s not.
The results of white privilege.
I had a Hi-point 380 a few years ago-I couldn’t make it work so it wasn’t a real firearm to me…these NJ azzwholes don’t have anything better to do but watch videos? They run shite like this on the Chiraq local news ALL the time…can’t Rahm and Garry bust some of these rappin’ rowdies here? lol
I’m sure those fine, young men mean no hard to anyone. And purchased those weapons by legal means. Gentlemen and scholars.
Any one of these “kids” could have been Obama’s son.
Nah. That would require him to have had sexual congress with a woman.
What’s truly amusing is that our opponents always portray violence as the product of the NRA and fat old rednecks. The reality is, savages such as these are the killers in America. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if an editorial cartoon were published that, instead of Wayne LaPierre or some fat white guy, had a caricature of one of these hood-rats gloating over a pile of bodies. I think some of the hatred directed at the gun community by the left is an effort to distract themselves from confronting the uncomfortable reality of who and where the violence in our country comes from.
Sprocket,
I have actually heard many gun-grabbers acknowledge how much gangbangers contribute to violence in our nation. They view it as unavoidable and something about which they can do nothing. Of course they are not satisfied with doing nothing, so they redirect their frustration (of their impotence to stop gangbangers) at law-abiding citizens because they are confident that law-abiding citizens will comply with any laws that gun-grabbers facilitate.
It is the same thing with “gun-free” zones. I have pinned down gun-grabbers who finally admit that we cannot do anything to stop insane psycho spree killers from carrying out their attacks. Those gun-grabbers then go on to say that the next best thing is to disarm law-abiding citizens in order to stop any of them who might “snap” and kill someone at a “gun-free” zone — like the alleged incident where a man in a movie theater threw his popcorn at another viewer who then shot and killed the man throwing the popcorn.
That’s right. Rather than go after the violent criminals responsible for nearly 90% of all violent crime in the United States, gun-grabbers are going after the good people of our nation … because they can.
The real crime was that horrible rapping. Public Enemy they are not.
He used the N word.
Call the Media