Piers Morgan’s final words on Piers Morgan Live:
I have lived and worked in America for much of the past decade, and it is a magnificent country. A land of true opportunity that affords anyone, even British chancers like me, the opportunity to live the American dream. The vast majority of Americans I have met are decent, hard-working, thoroughly dependable people. As my brother, a British Army colonel, says, “You’d always want an American next to you in a trench when the going gets tough.” . . .
But that’s where guns belong – on a military battlefield, in the hands of highly trained men and women fighting for democracy and freedom. Not in the hands of civilians. The scourge of gun violence is a disease that now infects every aspect of American life.
Each day, on average, 35 people in this country are murdered with guns, another 50 kill themselves with guns, and 200 more are shot but survive. That’s 100,000 people a year hit by gunfire in America.
Now, I assumed that after 70 people were shot in a movie theater, and then, just a few months later, 20 first-graders were murdered with an assault rifle in an elementary school, the absurd gun laws in this country would change. But nothing has happened. The gun lobby in America, led by the NRA, has bullied this nation’s politicians into cowardly, supine silence. Even when 20 young children are blown away in their classrooms.
This is a shameful situation that has made me very angry. So angry, in fact, that some people have criticized me for being too loud, opinionated, even rude when I have debated the issue of guns. But I make no apologies for that.
As Sir Winston Churchill said: “If you have an important point to make, don’t try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time – a tremendous whack.”
My point is simple: more guns doesn’t mean less crime as the NRA repeatedly says. It means more gun violence, death and profits for the gun manufacturers. And to those who claim my gun control campaigning has been “anti-American”, the reverse is true. I am so pro-American that I want more of you to stay alive.
But I’ve made my point. I’ve given it a tremendous whack. Now it’s down to you. It’syour country; these are your gun laws. And the senseless slaughter will only end when enough Americans stand together and cry: Enough!
I look forward to that day. And I look forward to seeing you all again soon. Goodnight, thank you, and God bless America. Oh, and while I’m at it, God bless Great Britain too.
[Please note: ad hominem attacks (a.k.a., flames) against Mr. Morgan will be deleted. Please keep it civil.]
I’ll save you the trouble:
“Comment Moderated”.
As they say “Don’t go away mad, just go away”.
organ,,er’..morgan who?
I find it so odd that he continues to beat that dead horse. It’d be like an American going to England and advocating for the elimination of the monarchy. Incessantly.
When someone moves to a new place, it is incredibly rude to ask everyone else to change their ways to suit them. These diatribes demonstrate an arrogance that’s hard to fathom. You’d think after his ratings plummeted, he would have moved on to different topics.
I guess some lessons have to be learned the hard way.
“These diatribes demonstrate an arrogance that’s hard to fathom.”
That is the very nature of statists — they claim to know better than everyone else and they insist on implementing their “solutions” regardless of what anyone else thinks or wants.
Its the British monarchy thing, he is absolutely bewildered by the concept that the government is limited in what it can do. That it can’t just snap its fingers and take away a right that was listed as number #2 on a list of 10 absolute rights guaranteed to the American people, bought with blood, and fought for against german mercenaries purchased by the British crown with taxes stolen from a people given no voice in their future. You know what he thought of the Great Britain in V for Vendetta? A good start.
Is there a donation site to send him to Bangkok via Malaysian Air……..
1000
+ 2000
MAYBE while in flight,
he can choke on Tea and Crumpets too!
What an *$$!!!
A proper gentleman would have said “God save the Queen”, not “God bless Great Britain”.
I heard that disingenuous drivel and almost threw a shoe at the TV.
He isn’t anti-American. He is SO pro-American that he spits, sh!ts and p!sses all over it.
What I see when I read his stuff here is, “Hey, Look at me! I’m Brittish!”.
I will be sure to send him some peppermints when he gets convicted in the phone hacking scandal and has to serve prison time being someone’s COMMENT MODERATED
“But that’s where guns belong – on a military battlefield, in the hands of highly trained men and women fighting for democracy and freedom.”
Just take out “on a military battlefield” and we’ll be good. Thanks…
I said it was good to wear UNDERarmor for a hot day at the range, not OVERarmor!!
Don’t let the screen door hit ya….
I wanted to say that. But I’ve noticed he STILL won’t shut uppppp!
“But that’s where guns belong – on a military battlefield, in the hands of highly trained men and women fighting for democracy and freedom. Not in the hands of civilians.”
Fighting for democracy and freedom – according to piers above, civilians shouldn’t be doing this. When has the “military” in recent times ever been fighting for “freedom”
From the end of the second world war until the collapse of the soviet empire the American military fought for your freedom in a cold war that got hot on a regular basis. It amazes me when people can look at Stalin and Mao and not believe that they would have spread their brand of slavery world wide if not for the checking influence of the US and it’s military.
The fact that we’re able to discuss these matters on this site is proof that your freedom was protected.
If you know this trigger has no reset… which the reviewer did/does know… why was it a problem for him? When you get to the actual shooting portion of the review its nothing but praise. Isn’t that what counts? The rest of his complaints are nothing but an opportunity for the writers… and many of reviewers fall into the same trap… to show off their ability to be creative with metaphor. And in the end it all boils down to opinion. and in the end, opinion that has zero to do with the shoot ability of the gun as evidenced by this review. ‘great shooting, reliable gun but let’s nitpick and over exaggerate the things we personally don’t like.’ Why not just state the facts… it has a loaded chamber indicator we feel is too large and un necessary… it has an external safety you may find too small to operate without practice… it has a double action only trigger and the pull is long. In other words, be objective. Isn’t that what a review is supposed to be??
As my Pappy says, “One’s fondness for large predators varies proportionally with the distance”.
They should run to catch and release programs, letting the lions go in downtown San Francisco. That would change attitudes.
Good, he’s gone. What douche canoe will pick up the mantle for CNN? Sarc/off.
Schadenfreude… now being served for breakfast in my house.
Mr. Morgan, thank you for being concerned about our well being, but it is AMERICA’s Guns that kept you and your country from speaking German. Your welcome. Now please go away.
In the end; we won, (this battle). Just as we have been winning more than losing across the country; a few of the slave states have increased their gun control efforts. But more of the more free states have been increasing American gun rights.
It will be interesting now the Obama Care (gag) is out and so many people are so angry about it. even leftists; what will be the results at the polls come election time.
Always leave ’em wanting more…
How can we miss you if you won’t go away!
I have this sign right next to my front door. Well said and really, I wont miss the Brit.
“I feel very dismayed and upset,” said Amanda Wilcox, an advocate for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, whose daughter was a victim of gun violence. But, “his actions don’t make what is good policy any less good policy,” she added
Well, sure – policy supported by a hypocritical, criminal, lying scumbag is something the Brady Campaign can really get behind. How’s that go? “You can judge someone by the company they keep.”
I am just glad to see him go. The man is a bully. I understand his view point, because he shoves it down our throat all the time. I don’t even mind that he opinion differs from mine. What I never liked is that he treated guests with no respect. He was loud, rude and when he was “losing” he just resorted to name calling. Much like most anti-2A people. All huff and no substance. Happy to see him off the air.
I suspect that Mr. Morgan will eventually turn up some where else with the same boring message.
We just gotta kept playing “whac-a-mole” with this Brit until he has finally had enough.
Good bye for now, I hope you vacation in the UK and decide to stay.
New Poster. As a collector and owning the worlds smallest pistols including the Boberg. Most small heavy recoil 9s are picky about their ammo and how you grasp the pistol. The Boberg actually has less felt recoil than a Kahr PM9, Kimber Solo, or a Rohrbaugh R9 and is smaller than either. However this quality pistol as with most is out of the price range of some people.
“But that’s where guns belong – on a military battlefield, in the hands of highly trained men and women fighting for democracy and freedom. Not in the hands of civilians.”
Piers:
SOME of those “highly trained men and women” are “civilians” — members of the National Guard or Reserves of the Armed Forces of the United States.
SOME “civilians” are honorably discharged veterans of our Armed Forces, who have reverted to “civilian status”.
ALL of them were “civilians” before they became “highly trained men and women” in service to their country.
I don’t care about your brother’s service. What service did you perform for your country — either the country of your birth or that of your residence?
I never saw him win an argument. Not a single one.
Well, bye.
Sanctimony laid bear. It’s okay for me (and Yee), but not for thee. And you know? It hurts their other causes, too. How can you trust anything these people say or do, no matter what the issue? Of course, I suppose the same can be said on both sides of the fence. Politics, man.
Well, BYE!
What’s wrong with ar500? I mean, sure, some ceramics at 5 or 6 times the price would be great, but the fact that they can’t be seriously damaged by most things, plus the coating, make it okay in my book. And honestly, it’s still lighter, even with a soft vest underneath, than the crap I went to Iraq with.
In his arrogance he miscalculated what he could force feed his audience. He assumed Americans to be far more gullible as a people. He should have remembered the idea of a gun behind every blade of grass when contemplating invading America. In the end no one watched. As Yogi said ” If the fans don’t want to come to the ballpark, there’s no way your going to stop them.
What are the odds he’ll wind up on MSNBC or Al Gorezeera TV?
You know, that’s a good question. MSNBC, for example, is so far out there that his malignant stupidity might just be a draw. Falls into the “who cares” category, since all who watch are damaged goods already.
IF any of the anti-gun crowd can produce a bill that would actually stop people from doing things that are ALREADY illegal, I would support that bill 100%. The core problem with all gun control laws is that they try to prevent behavior that is already illegal by banning things that have legitimate legal uses and are not bad or illegal in and of themselves under the premise that these laws will be obeyed by the very people who are intending to break other laws. If gun control actually worked as advertised it would be completely and utterly unnecessary because other laws already cover the very behaviors gun control laws are allegedly targeting. Criminals, by their very definition, break the law and people intent on doing harm and violence will always find ways of doing so whether or not they have access to firearms and those that wish to use guns can always find ways to obtain them even if they are barred by law.
The hypocrisy of their most fanatical leaders are what hurts their cause.
“But that’s where guns belong – on a military battlefield, in the hands of highly trained men and women fighting for democracy and freedom. Not in the hands of civilians.”
What he is really saying is that guns only belong in the hands of government. Sounds more like a concept of tyranny than one of freedom and liberty. Morgan may have lived here for a decade, but he does not have the slightest concept of what it means to be an American. He is right when he says it is our country and our laws, but he does not believe that in his heart. Gun crimes are already illegal. No amount of extra legislation can make it any more illegal and while the Constitution does not guarantee safety. As always quoted by Ben Franklin…….Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
Saw the March 28, 2014 show about the Bernelli shotgun builds last night.
Have some questions to ponder.
1) If you have the CNC machine already programmed — why not just mill out another muzzle brake while working on the auto version’s trigger?, had plenty of time. Why wouldn’t you want to give the Bernelli reps both guns at their “best”? Please not another fake deadline — it represents your fine employees and shop to be inept.
2) Did anyone ever see the Bernelli Pro Shooter “hold down” the trigger on the full auto version shotgun?
I only saw him operate it like the semi-automatic ((as habit ?) pulling the trigger for every shot) — which was nearly as fast.
3) What does the blowing up of a van have to do with truly showing the added performance of your modifications?
Why not setup a shot-counter and other measuring devices to get some real numerical data. Don’t dazzle them with lights and glitter — if you can dazzle them with the facts?
And the “raid” on the zombie trailer, that just made the Bernelli Pro Shooter look stupid, I have lost respect for the Bernelli brand and him.
I realize this season’s episodes are already in the can, but please stop with all the MOJO pyrotechnic explosions — its ignorant. Have some pride in the products you produce and truly feature them, not all the smoke and mirrors routines — it demeans and undermines your brand and shop.
Democracy? Where? This is a Constitutional Republic.
Buh-bye
Mr. Morgan is entitled to his opinion and not much more. There’s a little thing called a Constitution here that allows its citizens the right to bear arms. If only the military and other government entities are allowed to posses guns because they are “highly trained” I see a huge problem with that. The war on guns will be like the war on drugs. An epic failure that will cost billions. But in the meantime, it will create jobs and make people insanely rich. There will be no less guns and no less violence. However, you will keep guns away from reasonable people, who are sane, law-abiding citizens.
I am for gun regulation in terms of background checks and trying to ensure guns don’t get in the hands day 1 of somebody who obviously doesn’t want to use it for home protection or target practice. But the notion of banning guns and such is just laughable. It just creates a huge underground black market.
Anybody hear of Leland Yee? He was anti-gun and signed all kinds of legislation. Turns out, he always was making a lot of money gun running.
You are correct, Mr. Morgan. It is OUR country. Not yours. You’ve made that painfully clear more than once. Don’t come here to tell us how to live. We know how we want to live. We don’t need holier-than-Thou types to make our decisions for us.
I’d say it’s been a pleasure but if I did I’d be so full of s765 that my eyes would be brown
Yo! My eyes are brown and I’m not full of s***. 😛
As for Piers Morgan’s final comments, I give him my most damning response: No Comment.
Sean’s, I never had a problem with them when I was in, typically mounted an EOTech. Now that I think about we always had issues with the Mk 16s we tested. I really am a fan of the .308 over 5.56, when I was overseas I typically was on over watch, I do recognize 5.56 is good at the range from a10″ barrel, as for 300 black I’d be running it suppressed, and probably only as a really cool toy. I was Ctual.y also considering a Daniel defense in .308 with a short barrel
civilian guns mean more mayhem ….
I have not seen any dead guys with gunshot wounds on my farm, and I have seen NO ROBBERIES or muggings or any of that. I will stick with my side of this argument Mr Morgan, and you can just give me a call the next time you are mugged.
Robert Seddon
Why is the ATF not raiding his house, his neighbor’s home, and relatives, friends, and businesses he’s had contact with, etc? They’ve conducted raids with much less evidence or probably cause in the past.
This is Piers’ typical liberal lame-ass way of diffusing his diminishing ratings by making it sound as though he “voluntarily” left for family, or whatever, reasons, when he was getting his sorry ass booted anyway.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
With the police and policy makers on board perhaps the media can come about and do something useful for once; If they beat the drum that breaking into someone’s home will get you killed the meme might settle into the culture deeply enough to reduce the number of home invasions.
Perhaps I’m off the rails but I still see my home as inviolate, my last bastion of defense and freedom, and I believe the appropriate response to attempted forced entry into it is deadly force. What’s disconcerting to me is that anyone disagrees with that position.
seans, check out the sbr precision rifle article on this site. its a bit trolltastic in the comments, but is very in depth and well written. Arguably my favorite technical piece on ttag.
“My brother the British Army Colonel” – because saying it over and over gives him what? credibility? testicles?….
That’s the person – his brother-in-law or whatever – that Pierth said he would like to put on his uniform and shoot Alex Jones. But only after Alex had left the set.
Thweet!
oh maybe CNN will give Shannon her own show now? Lol
He is still upset, like many British, that they lost to us years ago and then needed our help to finish not one, but two world wars.
Olathe Gun Shop in Olathe, KS. Went in after work (dress clothes, nice haircut, clean shaven) looking for a basic 1911 to turn into a fun range-gun project. The clerk was hostile from the moment I stepped foot into the store, demanded to know what I wanted to buy. A little taken aback by his tone, I stated I was interested in seeing their 1911s. I explained what I intended to do with a 1911 — customize a good basic model and take it to the range. One of the other clerks actually laughed at me because I said I enjoyed working on my last 1911 and wanted to work on another one.
The first clerk glared at me, rolled his eyes and in stentorious tones explained that if I were to work on my 1911 while it was loaded (completely odd, since I had never suggested doing such an idiotic thing), I probably would shoot myself with a negligent discharge if I pulled the trigger… and that it would hurt a lot. At this point, I decided to give into morbid curiosity and just humor him to see how far down the rabbit hole would go…
He showed me one 1911, then told me that ATI 1911s are better than RIA 1911s. He then demanded to know how much I was planning to spend. I had budgeted around $800 for my initial purchase but told him 400-600 to keep from committing to anything but still seeming serious for a low-budget build. He started talking about concealed carrying a 1911, that I should get a threaded barrel in order to install a silencer on it, and eventually worked his way down the counter in an attempt to convince me that I should look at a nice .380 and take a concealed carry class next month. Then he explained that they were closing up shop, so I’d need to go.
On the way out, I saw the owner and asked about the concealed carry course. He didn’t even look at me, just grunted. Wished them both a nice day and went out the door with my money in my pocket and the knowledge that they just aced themselves out of a chunk of change.
Contrast the above with Cabela’s in KC, where you pay more but they encourage you to look at different models and treat you like an intelligent human…
Wow… it only took “you people” how many years to discover the NOH8 campaign.
The NOH8 campaign is simple – Stop The Hate Against People That Aren’t Like You whether they are gay, straight, lesbian, transgender, bisexual, crossdressers, fat, skinny, bald, tattooed, etc.
In regard to the ProRKBA community, I wish you all would find something as simple as NOH8 to get our point across to the anti-gun activists that was as simple and direct. Gun owners are all across the board, and there is no real focus. Conservative Religious pro-RKBA people hate on gays, yet Pink Pistols is all about non-100% Hetero people supporting the RKBA. There are pro-gun democrats, yet the republican party and died-in-the-wool republican voters would never support a pro-gun democrat.
You all need to find a way to drop the prejudice and preconceived impressions of what a GUN OWNER REALLY LOOKS LIKE. Not all gun owners look like the guys on Duck Dynasty or some kind of psuedo black ops weekend warrior.
The media outcry over the Zimmerman (hispanic) shooting Martin (black) incident was HUGE, but can you imagine if a drag queen shot some milita-looking guy? I’m willing to bet the Conservative Religious nutjobs would start hanging out in parking lots outside drag clubs just to physically assault the men in drag, if not many of the patrons.
Sigh… sadly many in America will never move beyond their narrow little world.
many in America will never move beyond their narrow little world.
“Conservative religious nutjobs?” Oh the freaking irony of ironies, you proved your own point.
Ladies and gents – this has turned into a very divisive conversation. When you read through it, whether you agree with me or not, perhaps it would be better to write a letter to your congressman pushing to advance gun rights than it would be to fire off a reply to anyone and further divide us.
For my own part, I’ve participated in this discussion far more than I should have. I’ve wasted time and writing on this discussion that I should have put into furthering the RKBA, and you all have my apology for that.
I wonder if, a decade or so hence, if freedom continues to advance and these idiotic anti-freedom gun laws continue to be discarded, WHEN the crime rate continues to drop, will the ethical journalist hiding inside Mr. Morgan creep timidly out and admit that he was wrong?
I look forward to that day, but I’ll continue to breathe regularly just in case he doesn’t.
You’re funny.
As Sir Winston Churchill said: “If you have an important point to make, don’t try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time – a tremendous whack.”
excellent point. we should follow that more. no more subtlety. no more cleverness. time to pile driver the antis with the truth. GUNS SAVE LIVES.
Leftists have always justified ends with means. The fact that Yee is a corrupt criminal means absolutely nothing to them.
What I find most sad about it is that these people think the setback to their agenda is the worst thing about Leeland Yee’s arrest (which is where the quote came from).
But how about the fact that an elected representative of the the People was not only misusing his power for personal gain, he was also helping criminals import illegal machine guns into our country. That’s the worst part of the whole thing, but the anti-gun side is so stuck in their small thinking that they can’t even see that.
Guns are implements of killing, if we are to have them as part of our society — and yes, we have — we should do what we can to limit their capacity to kill the innocent while preserving a Constitutional right to possess them.
Huh, you know that actually aligns really well with my own attitude. The key observation being that the phenomenon of a “gun” killing an innocent really begins with a decision firing in the brain of the person holding it.
So, education (like making the 4 rules and other gun facts, like their mechanics, universally taught in school) is a good strategy to guard against people behaving irresponsibly or treating firearms with a cavalier attitude. If everyone recognized safe gun handling practices we would naturally increase awareness of people behaving suspiciously or unsafely.
However, education alone cannot address the problem of those who simply do not care for the goodwill of others and would harm innocents for their own gains or pleasures. How do you stop someone like that? By stopping them. With force. And the more people who are willing to employ force against evil and equipped and prepared / trained to do so, the safer will will all be. Fans of “protecting the innocent” would do well to educate themselves about the realities of firearms and stop confusing the willingness of a gun owner to use deadly force with the desire to do so.
To quote the Von Trapp Family Singers: “So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good bye.” He and Lucas electrical systems should have never went beyond Land’s End.
Never change Piers Morgan!
That’s the worst curse anyone could wish on you!
Well, maybe he can go find a new job. In finance, maybe. Like at Chase, for example.
Then he can get a nice London penthouse on the 30th floor and send himself off of it.
I had a nice chat with some British army officers a few weeks ago. It was interesting to hear them talk about guns in their country. I could have sworn they sounded like me in how rubbish most gun laws are. I gave them some stats on guns in the U.S. And how the guns targeted most often were last likely to be used in crime. They also went and shoot ARs one weekend while here and enjoyed it. They wished they were armed like us.
At least he is absolutely clear that he is not advocating for “common sense gun laws.” Instead, he is pushing for complete and absolute confiscation of all guns from “civilians”:
Guns in the hands of civilians are a tremendous impediment to totalitarian dreams of utopias.
===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle
Where’s Jeremy Clarkson when you need him?
Arms describe something that can be carried without mechanical assistance. So probably not.
No, it doesn’t.
Sure, but the ammo prices would be murder
That’s what I was thinking.
So many things I’ve never understood about gay culture. One of my closest friends is openly gay and anti-2A. Why? Bear arms and defend your constitutional GAY rights from the corrupt media, legislature, and lobbyists.
And bear arms to protect yourself from people who would like to drag you to death behind a pick-up truck.
But some people view the state as the only thing that can protect them. They’re unwilling to act in their own defense. I don’t understand it, but that’s how it is.
No. That is a crew served weapon. Picture fails to show the monkey required to load the rounds. If the first 10 amendments are individual then how can a crew serve weapon be included?
why yes..i’ll take 3 please mail them to P.O.Box,,,,,
Yep, we should own it.
I should be able to buy any short barreled weapon or suppressor by plopping money on the counter and walking out like any other firearm transaction.
Does “Blow it out your ass!” count as an attack?
I have issues with violent felons owning such things. Then again, I have issues with statist government control freaks and corrupt politicians having access and control over ordinance of this caliber. My understanding is that this is a crew – served weapon that is not man-portable. It does not fall under the classic definition of “arms” as I understand it.
Yup yup!
Closed now but Lenny’s in Houghton lake mi. Went in asked for a box of .45 acp, he looks all around and gives me a box of .45 colt, I say no 45 acp scratches head can’t find a single box( this was in 1998) . I said hold on and walked out and back in, he asked me if I forgot something in my car, I told him nope was just checking to make sure sign actually said gun store
It really sucks when you’re stuck with an investing that’s outperforming the market. Maybe the poor people of California should stop backing the teacher’s pension fund. Let the teachers feel the pain of bad promises and a fluctuating market.
And yet all types of violent crime in the U.S. continues to decline, while the number of guns owned goes up and while violent crime levels in the U.K. have yet to return to the level they were at previous to their pistol ban.
People should be able to own any aimed non explosive firearm without a permit. They should be able to own explosive devices with permit. Anyone should be able to own any firearm that their government owns. Even if they were previously convicted of a non violent felony. Explosives have the potential to kill indiscriminately so there should be some regulation but still available.
Gun blast.com never met a firearm he didn’t like. I stopped looking at his reviews sometime ago.
CalSTRS has some form of fiduciary duty to get the most bang for the buck, least they be sued for poor investment duties. On the other hand they could specifically exclude certain investments, but that might be to the detriment of teachers.
My guess is they realize the parts are worth more than the whole and are planning on making a killing (when the parts are sold off-without firing a shot). Then they can take the high moral ground.
They must be in contact with three CA state senators insuring they get the best advice, from all angles of corruption.
Rydak : you are a loser, sorry, your sarcasm and disregard for the victim are too much. You take care of your macho self. Besides, you are blind to what happened here. Cops are thinned skinned and get away with too much. I would love to be on ANY jury where a cop has been involved in these type of situations. The application of deadly force is universal, there are no exception for the cops, and if there is, it is simply “legalized” murder in some jurisdictions. You can even shoot a cop in self defense, rare, but has happened (orange county CA,). I do not want any policeman killed (well there are a few exceptions) but really, this was murder. You have young punks with badges and guns getting away with murder.
who ever wrote this article does not know about guns as much as he thinks. The Millennium G2 9mm Polymer Grip Sub Compact Taurus proves everything said in this article wrong
+1 Ralph. It’s OK if you call ME a white rightwing Christian gun toting nutjob. Don’t forget old & fat. Legislation of the thought police. How quickly America has completely gone to hell.
Has the man without a TV show ever contemplated the fact that if it weren’t for Brit’s we might not have developed the gun culture we now enjoy and fight for?
I got some monopoly money out in the garage. Can I buy a gun with that?
One world currency! Much ballyhooed.
Who’s he? Oh some limey who had a teevee show that hardly anybody watched. Hence he’s now without a teevee show. The Brits sent him over here because they didn’t want him, so the USA was stuck with him for a few years. Ok Aussies, Kiwis, or Canucks, time to step up (don’t you’ll be sorry)! I guess he’ll shlepp off back to ol’ England.
“Proshe”, eh? Is that a confabulation of “Prussian” and “Bosche”? If so, isn’t that terribly redundant?
Yay! Michigan finally brings this section of its firearms laws up to par with other states. Now, if they’ll only jettison their state firearm registration and handgun purchase permit requirements, then maybe they can finally be dragged kicking and screaming into the mid-1990’s. Hey, that’s still better than the slave states, if that’s the standard they want to go by.
Yeah the Van Gogh worth MILLIONS. I could BUY DOZENS of Porsche’s LOL
I’d be ok with allowing civilian purchase of this weapon without registration or background check. Prohibited possessor laws should still be in place, of course. I don’t find that permits and background checks are effective at preventing the wrong people from acquiring firearms. I’d just want those laws still in place so that we can take away someone’s trailer-mounted heavy machine gun if that person, subject to due process, is determined to be a unsuitable for firearms ownership.
Likewise, all the same civil liability laws would still be in place. You own every round, after all. So unless you also own many wide open acres where no one will hear this thing or be hit by it, then it’s not going to happen. If you want to store this thing in your garage, I’m ok with that; but don’t think you’re going to fire it off in the cul-de-sac without losing it and your freedom.
smells like something died
Who’s the fat guy shooting in the videos?
Gee, the moderators don’t like free speech. Sort of fascist-control-freak-like….just like a progressive/socialists…you know..like Hitler, Stalin, and other true baby-killers.
The SD9VE is a hybrid cross between a well behaved sigma and An M&P 9, Minus the flaws. Face it: It IS an EXCELLENT Pistol for The Money and More!….Maryland You say???…. How about waiting 42 days for your second pistol, so to collect an interesting 8 pistol collection I had to put up with califarcia’s senator Leland Yee’s Illegal laws for half a year…california state senator leland yee…ring a bell????Yez…here is an incredible sleezy califarcia state senator who said” ” I won’t rest happy until california is a NoGun State!!!
Meanwhile this politico is trying to buy 500 M16 AUTOMATICS to sell on the street to ANYONE in an FBI Sting, he was just arrested. It IS amazing what we law abiding citizens will put up with the sleezy politicos.
On your search engine,Please checkout: “california state senator leleand yee arrested in FBI gun sting”
Not all corpsman go through 18d. I meant equivalent as in training/ job wise sorry for the miscommunication. I was on the recon side so still lots of fun. Yeah I got to shoot the 16 because we were on a float with a west coast seal team that had them in the armory so I got to shoot them a little. As for the scar 17 I was able to carry it in afghanistan on my last deployment with no problems.
The American line is great! A friend has one in 30-06. I like the design of the magazine.
Are they making a left hand version? I’m blind in my right eye and have to shoot a long gun lefty.
A weapon like this is extremely expensive to obtain or operate which makes them unavailable to all but a small portion of the population even if there were no laws governing possession and use of such a weapon. Even to those who can afford to buy such a thing there are very people few who would be interested in buying one. If they were interested and able then they would almost certainly be a wealthy collector. Additionally, it is very difficult to hide and transport such a weapon because of its size. Irresponsible people don’t tend to have the ability to amass fortunes and there are heavy weapons in the hands of collectors out there, which you never hear about for that reason. I don’t see any good reason to restrict civilian ownership of something almost no one can obtain anyway. I would draw the line not at the type of heavy gun but rather at ammunition types. HE shells and rockets are questionable and anything that has a shaped charge in it would be a no-go. Chemical shells would not be okay. Obviously biological and nuclear weapons are out. Depleted uranium would be an environmental nightmare so that is out.
I hope that if I have to, gods forbid, use lethal force to protect me and my own, that the investigation probes as shallowly, the questions asked as sparsely, and the matter glossed over so quickly…
I thought Ollie died from an OD a few years ago? So, he is still spewing leftarded stupidity? Wow, that is my amazed face.
Singed up 🙂
No fair! None of Leland Yee’s guns are microstamped, and he has machine guns, too.
Nick. The money you have in it is a “sunk cost”. That means you aren’t getting it back while its sitting in your safe, and a big part of it is gone for good to depreciation which DG and others are telling you is accelerating…
On the other hand, you can think of the $1000 cash offer, or (maybe some amount of hours of instruction by someone bartering,
as an investment with ROI if your flying lessons are going towards any future employment.
If flying is just for fun, then its all expense of course. And well worth it. Go for it!
Whatever you do, dont buy a sailboat.
Or a horse…
I had already joined this campaign a few weeks ago as many of my friends from Vermont are planning to attend in person. I will support from here with FB and Twitter postings.
Good luck in your efforts!
A much higher percentage of the anti’s participate on social media than do us gun owners
Personally, absolutely none of my close friends do.
Most are like myself and wouldn’t enter one of those sites at gun point.
Nick: TTAG raffle! One dollar buy in, one ticket per user. You can fly the rifle to the winner for the FFL transfer after you get your pilot’s license.
Absolute garbage. Micro-Stamping is relatively easily accomplished, though not in the way California wants it done. Also, it wont last forever and it’s so easily defeated that never minding that new guns purchased from licensed dealers aren’t the weapons their looking for, it’s not likely to ever solve a single crime, period.
I don’t mean to beat a dead horse but laws that can be rendered useless by little Johnny Windowlicker in 10 minutes with a $2.00 file ought never to be passed in the first place. Just like the ‘ballistic finger print’ laws that can be defeated in minutes with a file, or by simple wear, micro stamping is a windmill tilting exercise that has no bearing on crime whatsoever. Just as ballistic figure printing has resulted in basically no crimes solved this does nothing for public safety it’s either ill conceived, a back door attempt at prohibition, or both.
It depends who called the cops first and got their story in. STFU is a good move but unfortunately the other side didn’t.
So, the NRA values of Freedom, Equality, true anti-racism (by training free and freed Black men during the Civil War), and the Constitution, are not the values of “The Constitution State”? The Cognitive Dissonance on the Left is just insane…