Civilian Small Arms Ownership Is The Cancer Of Society

US Guns Vs. Violent Crims

courtesy aei.org

“Accessing accurate data for small arms is always a difficult task. In the arms trade, small arms are considered the cancer of any society, as they facilitate human rights abuses, criminality, insurrection as well as murder, particularly in developing countries or countries subject to war.” – British arms trade expert Martin Drew in Civilians own 85% of world’s 1bn firearms, survey reveals [via theguardian.com]

 

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  1. avatar John Q Public says:

    NWO product placement…?

  2. avatar pwrserge says:

    Only the Brtits would consider “insurrection” to be a bad thing… that’s not a bug, that’s a feature.

    1. avatar Rusty Chains says:

      Of course they do, over 240 years later and they still have a bad taste in their mouth!

      1. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

        Mr. Washington would disagree,as would many Americans

        “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty “teeth

      2. avatar neiowa says:

        It’s not their mouth that hurts. It’s the TWO kicks in the ass they received. THEM we bailed same ass out multiple times that really pains the.

        The “Guardian” story which quotes “Mother Jones”. Not even fit for the bottom of a parakeet cage.

        1. avatar tdiinva says:

          Actually, they kicked our ass the second time.

        2. avatar Garrison Hall says:

          Not quite, but in terms of the land battles I think you have a good point. On sea it was a different matter entirely, however, as American fast sailing privateers did huge damage to Britan’s merchant shipping. An interesting technical innovation was the “long Tom” a heavy long gun pivot mounted amidships so it could fire to port and starboard, gave small privateers a serious punch that their merchant ship prey lacked.

        3. avatar Nigel the expat says:

          Heh. That is like dear Diane quoting Shannon, quoting Mike, quoting Sugerdaddy, quoting sock-puppet. Or studies showing ‘guns are bad’ when paid for by anti-gun groups.

          Or literally everything on The Trace, an opinion blog pretending to be a ‘News’ site.

        4. avatar tdiinva says:

          The war at sea was largely irrelevant to the War’s outcome. The War on the Lakes was s more important victory. While we won the Battle of Lake Champlain the British would have won at Plattsburgh if they pushed on. New Orleans was our only real battlefield win. Baltimore and Lundy’s Lane were draws.

        5. avatar drunkEODguy says:

          Hardly, considering 1812 a loss is a more recent development. Matter of fact, Jeffersonian Republican-Democrats had a huge surge in popularity because of it. It was rough for America sure, but the reality was we challenged a world superpower and fought a stalemate.

    2. avatar Garrison Hall says:

      This is why we so desperately need a world government. Too much individual freedom is always a threat to the established order. And without order you have chaos. //sarc//

      1. avatar Howdy1 says:

        Number one cause of death in the history of the world.

        Government.

        Yet they only have 15% of the world’s small arms.
        Carpet Dayum

        1. avatar Indy Jones says:

          I’d go with “religion”, but I get your point

      2. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

        YuP ,too much Liberty and Freedom is bound to be a bad thing,sarc.

    3. avatar Indiana Tom says:

      small arms are considered the cancer of any society, as they facilitate human rights, and insurrection against Banana Republic Dictators.

    4. avatar Craig in IA says:

      Well, the Brits, Gemans, French and other European nations (except, surprisingly for all the jokes, Poland) are dealing with open insurrection from the immigrants their governments have allowed to come in over the past 12 years or so- let them worry about their own continent. And they aren’t even allowed to own firearms. How’s that working out for them?

  3. avatar GS650G says:

    Governments commit the vast majority of abuses and murders with small arms.

    1. avatar Rick the Bear says:

      That’s where my thoughts went!

    2. avatar JasonM says:

      But it’s not murder when they do it, because they get to define and judge murder.

      1. avatar Indiana Tom says:

        Big Government is always good. Just ask them.

  4. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    Civilian small arms ownership is the cancer to oppressive governments.

    1. avatar Bloving says:

      And those who dream of being oppressors.
      🤠

    2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Governor,

      I believe a slightly more accurate rendering of your comment would be:

      Civilian small arms ownership is the cancer of the Ruling Class.

      And that would explain why the Ruling Class almost universally opposes the hoi polloi having any armament.

      1. avatar frank speaks says:

        even when forced into battle by their “masters”….they were rarely allowed to possess more than common farm implements…the one exception being the english bowman…

        1. avatar neiowa says:

          I’d wager walking thru any city in the UK with a longbow today would NOT end well for the bowman. Mass progtards with the vapors

    3. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

      Lefttardism is a communicable disease,too bad there isn’t a inoculation for it other than the light of truth.

  5. avatar Marcus says:

    85% of arms owned by civilians, 90% of the worlds violence committed by state actors.

  6. avatar Ironhead says:

    Well seeing as how you are British, history would show that you are the cancer.
    Bless your heart.

    1. avatar frank speaks says:

      can only repeat the alleged words of burgoyne before his defeat at saratoga…”They’re peasants…with guns…how can peasants have guns?”………

      1. avatar California Richard says:

        To which General Washington replied: “AK-47! Because 100 million peasants can’t be wrong!”

    2. avatar Ralph says:

      Britain a cancer? Nowadays, it’s more like a pimple on the world’s ass. Oops, excuse me — that would be “arse.”

  7. avatar Richard Turyn says:

    Most insurrections are a waste of human life and end very badly.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Omelette and eggs come to mind.

      1. avatar Ing says:

        Problem is, the people who revel in revolution tend to be egg-breakers who have no interest in actually cooking a good omelet.

    2. avatar anonymoose says:

      On our side they seem to be big wastes. We have these long drawn-out occupations in these Islamic crapholes, then as soon as we leave they just revert to the same tribal/sectarian caveman crap.

      1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the Bull, get the Horns" PR says:

        All I can say is, as far as I am concerned, any occupational wander-lusts by me have been cured by the response to 9-11-2001.

        The problem is, as a nation, we have a very short memory of strategic mistakes. If anyone gets us into another quagmire like Iraq-Afghanistan, it will be by the Leftists tugging at heartstrings…

      2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Anonymoose,

        Islam drives the tribal/sectarian violence — tribalism/sectarianism does NOT drive Islamic violence.

        Islam is the embodiment of “imprison, rape, flog, and/or kill people who do not have the same beliefs as you”.

    3. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Richard,

      The appalling conditions that elicit insurrections, if allowed to exist, are a waste of human life and end very badly for the hoi polloi.

      1. avatar California Richard says:

        I was thinking the same thing. Oppressors tend to take off the mask of civility and overplay their hand committing atrocities when challenged. Insurectionists depend on high-profile government overreach/over reaction to highlight to the majority how aweful their overlords are…. And then there is Marxist insurection which simply kills people wholesale; out with the old tyrant, in with the new…. THAT is a waste of life.

  8. avatar Alexander says:

    This is an interesting fact about human mentality – when one person is killed, it is generally viewed as evil; when millions are killed, people ask for more and continue on the same track that leads to millions being killed again.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Don’t mistake commies for humans.

      1. avatar Alexander says:

        Currently, that makes about half of the USA/USSA.

        1. avatar Cundalini says:

          I don’t like skiers that much either, but communist?

  9. avatar ollie says:

    Nice Chart
    More Guns = Lower Murder Rate
    A good picture is worth 1,000 words.

  10. avatar Mike says:

    The Guardian, ever an advocate of more power to the state, won’t mention that over 95% of world’s violence is by state actors? Nor will it mention that as small arms have proliferated the past 100 years violent death per capita has fallen worldwide?

  11. avatar Dr. Killpatient says:

    Here Comes The ” CURE ” ………

    Pennsylvania Anti-Gun Bills get Vote Today ;
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=336401

  12. avatar DaveL says:

    In the arms trade, small arms are considered the cancer of any society

    “In the arms trade?” You mean people who manufacture and sell arms for a living consider them “the cancer of any society?” I find that rather hard to believe.

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      In this usage I believe refers to eurowussie/commie gov’t controlled military weapons mfg and pushers.

      1. avatar Alexander says:

        What they meant by that phrase is that if you’re going to kill, then do it in a big way – missisles, tanks, land mines. Pesky little items like handguns and rifles that can upset a planned genocide or pogrom are a cancer.

  13. avatar Jonathan-Houston says:

    So when countries’ citizens are already disarmed, their government overlords can get away with oppression on the cheap; using just handguns to keep them in line, instead of springing for rifles? That sounds about right.

  14. avatar Terclinger says:

    Sure looks like more guns equals less crime to me.

  15. avatar Joe R. says:

    Communism is considered the cancer of Society. We spend a lot of blood, sweat, tears, and treasure, fucking that shit up and killing the fuckers trying to spread it. Let’s kick it up a notch, I’m getting old.

    Kill a commie for mommy. Kill the commie’s mommy. Go after the commie’s family, and friends.

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      I’m sorry, let me correct myself. Communism is a cancer in Society.

    2. avatar Weapon Of War says:

      I’d rather be out killing Commies

  16. avatar DrVino says:

    When you look at the slow-mo cultural implosion of Britain, it becomes clear why that is happening when a guy like Martin Drew opens his mouth….

  17. avatar former water walker says:

    Socialist scum are the cancer of society-FIFY. If you subtract America’s legal gun owner’s the #’s are shockingly low.

  18. avatar Geoff says:

    Nice graph.
    Over 20 years gun ownership went up by 50% and gun deaths decreased by 50%.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      If we can replace 1 squishy SCOTUS associate justice, we can go a long ways toward continuing that downward trajectory of ‘gun violence’.

      Replace 2, and we can run the tables on armed self-defense…

      1. avatar Joe R. says:

        Replace the 9th Circuit, completely, and cut SCOTUS’s work of protecting the Constitution [they don’t have any other fucking job] in half.

        1. avatar neiowa says:

          NO divide into 3 court of normal/typical size territory/population and safe each with normal (not Californians).

  19. avatar frank speaks says:

    people would be surprised to learn where all those AK’s….that contribute to world disorder …actually come from…

  20. avatar Gun Owning American says:

    Liberal Statism is the true cancer on society.

  21. avatar dpk54 says:

    Civilian small arms ownership is the CANCER???? No, people like this are the cancer! LEGAL firearms owners are NOT committing these gun crimes!! I believe the Brits tried gun confiscation well over two hundred years ago…and we all know how well THAT turned out for them! Just because they see fit to have unarmed and unprotected citizens does not mean the rest of us want it. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao Tse Tung……gun confiscation was one of the very first things these men did to their citizens and history shows the end result of that…MILLIONS died under the reign of these people. I don’t know who said the following but he or she is absolutely right! “When the public is disarmed, criminals have greater impunity to rob and murder law abiding citizens…so also do CRIMINAL GOVERNMENTS!”

  22. avatar Soylent Green says:

    The cancer of society is a weak criminal justice system with its weak “catch and release” BS.

    1. avatar California Richard says:

      On average, we all commit 3 felonies a day without realizing it, so be careful when you ask for a “tough criminal justice system”. It empowers the government to do things you’ll regret. What we need is a system that doesn’t deamonize a citizen for protecting his property, his life, and his community. When an ordinary man is sent to jail by vile politicians or sued by vile criminals for doing the right thing, it cows good men in to inaction and emboldens the criminals.

  23. avatar million says:

    i’ve looked at that metaphor several different ways, parsing the language, taking liberties with the definitions and “the cancer of society” does not work as a metaphor for guns.

  24. avatar Sam I Am says:

    Yes, “civilians” with guns are a cancer. A benign cancer that only metastasizes when agitated by incompetent surgeons looking to cut it out. Leave things alone, and the cancer sleeps contentedly.

  25. avatar Ing says:

    Another interesting thing about the UN Small Arms Survey…

    Wealthy, industrialized nations have more guns in civilian ownership than poor and developing countries — along with less violence and more respect for human rights.

    If guns in civilian hands enable violence and human rights abuse, wouldn’t more guns enable more abuse? But clearly they don’t…

    Violence is a human problem, not a gun problem. Human rights abuse is a government and culture problem, not a gun problem. As usual, the world’s leftists blame the wrong thing. And make everything worse in the process.

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      “Another interesting thing about the UN . . .” sh_thole countries use UN deployment rape and murder crew detail as a recruiting poster and bonus incentive to their military personnel.

      F the UN, get the UN out of the U.S.

      The UN is nothing but a prefix for all things good and right and just.

      End UNODA

  26. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Socialist heroes Hitler, Stalin and Mao all hated civilians having guns. Socialist like Bernie Sanders have not changed. And don’t take to me about the NRA rating of Sanders. That is a joke.

  27. avatar Rocketman says:

    When you look at the massacres which occurred by governments verses those that occurred by individuals the difference is stark. Ten of millions dead by the governments of Nazi Germany, imperial Japan, North Korea, North Vietnam, the USSR and so on. What he’s done is to lump in all of this together and saying it’s all the individuals FAULT.

  28. avatar Justsomeguy says:

    This article says that the US military has only ! million small arms. This guy has no clue. There were reportedly 100K 1911’s in the Army inventory alone. What else do you think he got wrong?

  29. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Do we have to save the world for pea brains to understand they are totally mistaken? It may be a dictator or radical Islam, but the civilian gun owner will be the safety of civilized society, just like 1775 – 1783.

  30. avatar LazyReader says:

    Hoping it spreads

  31. avatar Susan Smith says:

    that’s a feature.

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