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What happens in Florida when constituents let their representatives know they want to see a constitutional carry bill that’s been languishing in a House committee come up for a vote?

We got this email from Florida Gun Rights’ Matt Collins . . .

Florida Gun Rights and Gun Owners Of America along with the Republican Liberty Caucus delivered petitions to legislators in support of Constitutional Carry at the Capitol today.

After delivering stacks of petitions to State Rep Chuck Brannan’s office, we circled back around roughly 20 minutes later to find that his office had deposited the petitions in the trash, a possible violation of public records laws.

Citizens who support the right to keep and bear arms confronted his Legislative Assistant about this on video.

Rep. Brannan is the chairman of the House Criminal Justice & Public Safety Subcommittee where HB 103, a constitutional carry bill, is bottled up. It will go nowhere without Rep. Brannan’s say-so.

Clearly Rep. Brannan’s legislative aid hasn’t been trained well enough to know that you don’t throw away constituent petitions in his boss’s front office. He was supposed to do that in the rear, out of sight, so the public can’t see that no one in the state’s GOP legislative leadership has any intention of moving a constitutional carry bill forward.

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  1. I live in Brannan’s district. I just moved here last June. I have not been able to contact Rep. Brannan. I have real questions regarding his commitment to his constituents.

    • Dee Dee in Live Oak,

      I have real questions regarding his commitment to his constituents.

      That suggests that your default position is assuming that politicians are committed to their constituents. Why would that be your default position?

      Pro-tip: assume that a politician’s default position is increasing his/her own wealth, power, and pleasure until he/she clearly demonstrates otherwise.

      • 𝐈 𝐠𝐞𝐭 𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 $𝟏𝟗𝟎 𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝟐 𝐤𝐢𝐝𝐬 𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐨𝐦𝐞. 𝐈 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐈’𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐨 𝐢𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐦𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝟏𝟓𝐤 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐡 𝐝𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐝 𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐫𝐲. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬…


    • Is his office open for you to walk in? I believe they need to put down your name as a record of your visit. You’ll have evidence of your attempt to speak with him, or at least of your presence there to deliver a letter.

    • I contacted his office asking about holding up the bill. He responded that I was being lied to by some organizations. I was to call his Tallahassee number and leave a message and he would call back and set the record straight. Haven’t heard back yet…

  2. The petitions should have been on softer paper. Then Brennan would have wiped his ass on them, just like he does with the Constitution.

  3. Phukin criminals EVERYWHERE! And they all believe they’re untouchable. You better prove em wrong!!

  4. Not yet.

    1 – Soap Box
    2 – Ballot Box
    3 – Jury Box
    4 – Cartridge Box

    We’re on step 2 right now.

  5. The GOP really does suck, as I’ve said before.
    No balls, all bluster & they suck as bad as the commi Dems.

    • NORDNEG,

      Many/most Republicans are simply playing the “good cop” role (and many/most Democrats are playing the “bad cop” role) in the good cop, bad cop shtick.

      Of course that means that many/most members of both parties are ultimately driving in the same direction more-or-less. The only difference is how hard the members of either party step on the proverbial gas pedal.

      While there are instances where Republicans actually turn the proverbial steering wheel around 180 degrees to reverse course on public policy, it seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

      • RINO’S are more insidious than dems. At least with dems you know those petitions would be immediately thrown out. With RINO’S you might assume that they at least make it to your rep’s desk before they hit the trash. Biggest problem is primarying the bastard.

    • Nord

      “they suck as bad as the commi Dems”

      If you actually believe that BS then you 1.) need wake TF up 2.) get involved such that you know WTF you’re talking about.

    • “The GOP really does suck, as I’ve said before.”

      That’s only true in some states and anyone who disparages all members/elected officials in such a stereotypical manner has absofu—inglutely no idea how politics in-general work nor any sense of how to get elected officials to back their proposals.

      We laid a groundwork in Iowa that took several election cycles but we now have a solid legislature and Governor who are doing a great job in respecting the rights and liberties of the vast majority of Iowans, regardless of what the always-leftist print media might suggest.

      Complain all you want- fact is that FL is stuck with the representatives that were elected until the next cycle- MAYBE. It’d be smart to try to work with them where possible and even thank some of them once in a while when they pull off something right. Comments about removing them, voting them out, etc. are pretty hollow when you can’t get the job done and such will set you back even further the next time around. Try running for their spots if you really want an education.

      Truth be told- the rest of most of the states, and the country for that matter, would be far better off with Florida’s chief executive running their show. Try to work with your reps through him.

      I don’t consider my rights and liberties as “negotiable” but I have been smart enough over the years to be able to assess when it’s time to “hold ’em, fold ‘em”, or even “walk away” FOR THE TIME BEING. As I’ve stated here before, the supposed 10 yr AWB gave birth to an entirely new gun industry upon its sunset, just as concealed carry on demand and permitless/“Constitutional carry have, in most states, laid total waste to the handgun laws and regs during the Clinton era.

      It’s doubtful any of this would have happened had the gun lobby at the time taken GOA’s “no compromise” approach. Those laws would’ve passed at the time regardless of the chest beating and then it may well have been over- for good.

  6. Why I do declare…Put such talk about guns on the trash heap and burn it. And when you slaves are done with trash burning get back to chopping cane, picking cotton and singing in the hot sun. No more slave talk about guns…Next time master brannan and his whips won’t be so nice. I do declare.

  7. I wonder how many times this has happened in the past. I bet that Aide is looking for a new job.

    Talk about disrespect for the people. You guys need to vote this guy out. Hopefully it did break some laws and then you can really make him accountable.

      • Thanks, but still wanted to see it. Will not show in firefox at all, in Edge says (for the video space, a grey rectangle) “This page was blocked by Microsoft Edge”

        how strange

        • It is blocked because it is posted on Fakebook. Watching it allows FB to track you. So says Duck Duck Go. Not wanting to be tracked, I skipped it. I’d like to know why this aide thought he had the authority to decide what his boss sees and doesn’t see.

        • @tsbhoa.p.jr

          It may for me have something to do with having the latest version of both those browsers. I understand it viewable in older versions.

    • It should be seen on the evening news all across Florida and America. Decent Gun Owners have the goods on the RINO brannan and his ilk…The truth about those self serving, pompous, stick in the mud ratbassturds is in neon lights…Use it for more than just preaching to the choir.

      • Well, yes maybe it should. I kind of thought though that the web sites would have this up front and center instead of doling it out by email to other sites.

  8. And in other news from Florida. At approximately 2300 hrs on 22 February 2022 a Taylor County deputy was shot multiple times on U.S. 19 south of Perry, FL. The suspect made his way to a nearby home in Dixie County where he attempted to enter without invitation. The homeowner was annoyed at having his slumber interrupted. A gunfight ensued. The homeowner was wounded in the shoulder. Jesus wasn’t available so the suspect’s family are making arrangements. Deputy Anderson, a K-9 officer, was medivaced to Gainesville with life threatening injuries and is now listed in stable condition. As an aside, the suspect was a convicted sex offender.

    • Gadsden Flag,

      … the suspect’s family are making arrangements.

      I assume that you are referring to funeral arrangements, yes?

    • “And in other news from Florida. At approximately 2300 hrs on 22 February 2022 a Taylor County deputy was shot multiple times on U.S. 19 south of Perry, FL.”

      Yeah, my phone went off with a “Blue Alert” about 0-dark thirty last night.

      It’s the same God-awful “Brrrak! Brrrak! Brrrak!” sound as when a tornado is about to flatten your house. 2 feet away from your head.

      Best wishes to the responding deputy injured…

      • Geoff, mine to. Didn’t get many real facts until I spoke with Mike. He lives down that way. He told me of the suspect’s fortunate demise before it made the local news and FOX. Stay tuned.

  9. I’ll do this like you guys do…

    “Florida state GOP shit cans FLGR gun freedom petitions? This is my shocked face!”

    The Republicans are doing nothing but grifting you very expertly, cheering on their grifter in chief as he dry-humps the American flag (and all y’all).

    Why you guys support these Russian-loving traitors is beyond most Americans.

    “Former President Donald Trump and former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo praised Russian President Vladimir Putin’s strategy in Ukraine. Pompeo, in a February 18, 2022 interview, said Putin is “very shrewd, very capable. I have enormous respect for him” and referred to the Russian president as a “elegantly sophisticated counterpart.” Trump referred to Putin’s strategy in Ukraine as “genius,” and wished Putin’s “peacekeeper” forces could be used on the United States’ Southern border.”

    And just to refresh your memory…

    Exchange between Mueller and Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO).

    “Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?” Buck asked.
    “Yes,” Mueller replied instantly.
    Buck went on: “You believe that he committed — you could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?”
    “Yes,” Mueller said again.”
    So yes, Trump is a Russian stooge, the only reason he wasn’t indicted by Mueller was because US Department of Justice policy not to indict a sitting President.

    • Miner49er,

      Try using your higher-level thinking functions more prominently in your brain.

      With respect to people who you despise: rather than immediately discounting or ascribing corrupt/evil aspirations to their statements, evaluate their statements with critical thinking.

      Stating that your adversary is shrewd and formidable is not, I repeat, is NOT a statement of allegiance to your adversary. When Japanese Admiral Yamamoto allegedly stated that Japan’s surprise attack on Pearl Harbor awakened a sleeping giant, was that a statement of allegiance to the United States and therefore treason against Japan?

      • It goes far beyond a mere mention of our adversaries’ capabilities, don’t you remember Donald Trump talking about the fact that he and the ruthless communist dictator Kim Jong Un had “fallen in love”? In fact, the ruthless dictator’s “love letters” as Trump called them himself, are allegedly part of the confidential government documents private citizen Donald Trump stole from the White House, in violation of multiple federal laws.

        And Trump publicly expressed that he “wished Putin’s “peacekeeper” forces could be used on the United States’ Southern border.”

        And regarding Yamamoto‘s comment, he made a dispassionate statement about the capabilities of the American population, he didn’t address FDR or express his admiration for any American leader.

        I’m surprised that the difference in their comments escaped you.

        • Miner49er,

          There you go with your emotional brain flashing “Tilt! Tilt! Tilt!” over and over.

          How is Trump’s alleged “love” relationship with Kim Jong Un relevant? Again, you are simply expressing disgust for Trump and that somehow means his words and actions are treason. How did Trump materially assist North Korea to overthrow the United States? Did Trump order the U.S. military to stand down and help North Korea successfully invade and overcome the U.S.? Did Trump give North Korea the necessary details for North Korea to render our nuclear missiles inoperable? The obvious answer is NO. Therefore, Trump did not commit treason with North Korea.

          As for Trump stating that he wants Putin’s peacekeeper forces to enforce the United States’ southern border, that is an artful language construct which emphasizes our unenforced border, not a literal effort to bring Russian military forces into the U.S. to overthrow our nation. Thus Trump’s comment there is not treason.

          Again, knock it off with the knee-jerk emotional response, “I despise someone therefore I will assert that everything they say and do is corrupt and evil.”

          Whether or not Yamamoto’s alleged statement was passionate or dispassionate is irrelevant. Of course you discount that since passion–emotion is your only concern.

        • “Treason shall consist of… Giving aid and comfort to the enemy”

          Acting as Vlad Putin’s propaganda arm is not acting in the best interests of the United States, and is certainly not patriotism.

          But go ahead and polish Putin’s knob if it brings you pleasure, Trump seems to enjoy it.

        • And you clearly do not understand the definition of the word ‘dispassionate’.

          Learn to pronounce
          not influenced by strong emotion, and so able to be rational and impartial.“

          As I said, Yamamoto was making a coldly rational and dispassionate estimation of the American population’s ability to repel invaders.

          He did not express admiration for FDR or any American leader, he never suggested that American troops should be deployed on Japanese soil, and he never discussed ‘falling in love’ with FDR.

          Every military sitrep I have ever heard or given was dispassionate, to utilize any other delivery model would be unprofessional.

        • “In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.

          A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.

          The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.

          The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.

          At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or “exfiltration” as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.“

        • “President Donald Trump discussed classified information provided by a U.S. ally regarding a planned Islamic State operation during an Oval Office meeting on May 10, 2017 with the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, providing sufficient details that could be used by the Russians to deduce the identity of the ally and the manner in which it was collected, according to current and former government officials.[3][4][5][6][7] The meeting had been closed to the U.S. press, although a photographer from the Russian press contingent was present.[1] The disclosure was first reported in The Washington Post on May 15, 2017. White House staff initially denied the report, but the following day Trump defended the disclosure, stating that he has the “absolute right” to “share” intelligence with Russia.[8]“

        • Miner49er: As I called you out in a previous article: lies and obfuscation. Endlessly. Nothing lower. You are deceitful and thus beneath contempt. Again, shame on you. Truly.

        • “I called you out in a previous article: lies and obfuscation“

          Claiming I am lying without offering any evidence whatsoever to support your claim is the greatest sort of obfuscation.

          Apparently you are incapable of providing even the most basic of sources to support your assertion.


    • You’re also a one trick pony as all can plainly see, socialist miner. The evidence you desperately crave for your highly scientific and ordered mind is the content of over 99% of your posts. Take a few weeks and go back and read them all. Please. And learn what the word ‘obfuscation’ means during your hiatus. You can look that last one up as well. Liar.

  10. Same kind of thing is happening here in OH. The shenanigan here is, both houses passed bills, but made them just different enough that they would need to be reconciled, with no reconciliation scheduled. But they have time for our version of FL’s strawberry shortcake tomfoolery. The “big city” mayors (all dems) and the FOP pulled strings this time.

      • Supporting individual members of law enforcement (backing the blue) does not mean you celebrate the corruption of those in management or of the FOP. There is a big difference between politician cops and those that do the hard work

        • Ridiculous, “back the blue” is a generic statement that has no specificity whatsoever.

          The “Blue” is an all inclusive term that makes no distinction.

          And the FOP doesn’t represent the Chiefs, it is a rank and file organization so your point is in error in any case.

        • When I say I “back the blue” the statement for me has specificity whether you like it or not. As far as the FOP, once you have an organization with a hierarchy politics becomes involved.

        • “And the FOP doesn’t represent the Chiefs, it is a rank and file organization…”

          This may be true, but it is also true that they represent cops only as regards their work as government employees, not in their political or private lives. They pretend to speak for cops, but their representation is actually quite limited.

          Another skin of truth stuffed with falsehood.

        • “When I say I “back the blue” the statement for me has specificity whether you like it or not.“

          “When I use a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean, nothing more and nothing less!” said Humpty Dumpty…

        • “Another skin of truth stuffed with falsehood.“


          The FOP is made up of rank-and-file police officers, their leaders are elected from their ranks.

          The fact is, the FOP is against con carry in the state of Florida, and the FOP represents the vast majority of police officers in the state of Florida.

        • “The fact is, the FOP is against con carry in the state of Florida…”

          Could be, but the OP was discussing OH, not FL. Most of their local cops support it. The rank and file that is, not the rank politicos who run the union.

      • Minor, getting mentioned isn’t quite enough. You need to have gone to OCS, jump school and Ranger school to get counted in that company.

    • I read yesterday that the legislative hearings in the house have been held on the Senate bill, that it is advancing rapidly, and could be voted out of committee as early next week, as the chair of that committee supports the bill as written. From the committee it toes to the house floor, where it will receive an up or down vote. I would not worry about any opposition from the big city mayors: everyone of those cities has sought to impose additional gun restrictions in violation of Ohio law and have been slapped down repeatedly by the State Supreme Court. Similarly, police in other states have opposed Con Carry laws, but those laws were passed anyway, and without adverse effects.

  11. A little bit of “breaking” news

    National Guard troops go to DC ahead of possible trucker protest

    Trucker convoy DC – live: National guard readies for Biden SOTU as just one big-rig in first protest

    “A statement from the People’s Convoy specifically says the trucks “will NOT be going into DC proper.” That convoy is planning to embark Wednesday from southern California and arrive in D.C. around March 5.”

    ““We want this government to bring back the Constitution,” Mr. Landis said. “We do not want to be under a dictatorship communism-style regime, like where we are right now.””

    • Cracks me up how many libtards screamed about President Trump being a tyrant who would take away your rights when we have an actual puppet tyrant in office now.

        • No rights have been taken away from the current holder of the oval office. The right to not get an injection of a vaccine that has been cleared for emergency use authorization has been taken from Federal workers and contractors. Completely Unconstitutional. Save any lame ass argument that you have for forcing American citizens to get an unwanted drug forced on them. In this country it isn’t about the greater good it is about the rights of the individual.

        • “The right to not get an injection of a vaccine that has been cleared for emergency use authorization has been taken from Federal workers and contractors. Completely Unconstitutional.”

          No, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that the government can require citizens to have a vaccination, and there’s no language excluding emergency use authorization in the SCOTUS decision.

          “Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws. The Court’s decision articulated the view that individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.“

          And I’m sorry to say, you may not understand exactly what the United States is all about with your remark regarding the rights of the individual.

          Our motto is ‘out of many, one’.

        • “The Court held that “in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand” and that “[r]eal liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own [liberty], whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”[2]

          Furthermore, the Court held that mandatory vaccinations are neither arbitrary nor oppressive so long as they do not “go so far beyond what was reasonably required for the safety of the public”.[2]“

          This decision is from 1906, 24 years before George Soros was born so you can’t blame him…

      • Biden isn’t taking away rights per se’. He’s using a backdoor approach to make it difficult to exercise some rights to the point where people just give up and comply.

        For example, in the Caniglia v. Strom case Biden had the DOJ involved in an attempt to make it legal to ignore due process when firearms are removed (confiscated by some government entity) from someone’s home.

        In another example, Biden wants to sign the U.N. Treaty under terms which were dictated by the European Union that would make the exercise of our rights under the constitution subject to how the EU wants it to be and the EU is a form of feudal tyranny disguised as a democracy.

    • Yes, great article in the Christian science Monitor, here’s a section you seem to have somehow omitted.

      “Vaccines have proven highly effective at preventing COVID-19 infections, especially serious illness and death, and high-quality masks offer strong protection against spreading or contracting the disease. Public sentiment, especially among conservatives, has been shifting against government mandates as the pandemic heads into its third year.“

      • Why do “intellectuals” constantly quote and/or post statistics to back up their arguments? It would seem that low self-esteem and overall ignorance obligates one to constantly show “proof” that he/she knows what he’s talking about. I have mentioned before that anyone can find a quote or a statistic that suits their argument. Witness the CDC’s statistics on the “safeness” of the vaccine. Yet there have been dozens if not hundreds of reports from very reliable sources and medical professionals that such is not the case. Beware fake news and beware of the faker posting it. The end.

        • “Why do “intellectuals” constantly quote and/or post statistics to back up their arguments?“

          Smart people post statistics to back up their arguments because they are not intellectually bankrupt like those who use only opinion as some sort of ‘proof’ to support their position.

          Any so-called ‘healthcare professional’ who speaks of “demon seed” and “alien DNA” is not a credible source.

        • If “smart people” (and I use the term smart loosely here) are so smart why have they not convinced the vast majority on this blog of their “position”? Certainly, their “statistics” are perfection in logic, no? The answer is of course that statistics are like assholes. Everyone has one up their sleeve, but the actor, the faker, is more adept in their usage. Being articulate with statistics just means you are articulate – maybe. Nothing more.

  12. The NO good SOB needs to be sent to the pen . What a lousy bastard this jerk is, I hope his mother runs out from under the porch and bites him in is dirty a&&.

  13. FL’ans of TTAG, do you happen to know just which citizen-disarmist or other such group this Brannan person is owned by?

    • “do you happen to know just which citizen-disarmist or other such group this Brannan person is owned by“

      That would be the Republican party.

  14. Your Florida government at work; like many others.

    What’s the point in having power if you can’t abuse it?

  15. “…his office had deposited the petitions in the trash, a possible violation of public records laws.”

    So, is FGR going to push the issue?

  16. Canada: hundreds of thousands of signatures not just on one petition to address grievances but near a dozen just in the last few years. By law these grievances must be addressed by the standing government if over 80K signatures are collected per petition. Most reach over a quarter million. The response? Precisely zero. Every time. Not even the courtesy of a reach around. Yet we literally work from opening hour to noon to pay for such excellent services on our behalf, not to mention then paying multiple taxes on every item we purchase and on our homes, yearly, while roads, schools, hospitals, fire halls, community services, etc go unmaintained and underfunded, all while our most fundamental human rights are slowly stripped from us, often by decree. Except for the RCMP of course, who have all the latest shiny toys and a large detachment even in every single small town, often leaving multiple vehicles idling in their parking lots. I would ask where all these trillions of dollars are going but I’m quite sure I know the answer to that. But Baaa Baaa. Mooo Mooo. Get in line for that ‘free’ experimental government jab, sheeple and don’t forget to wear your mask. Don’t worry, it’s only a temporary measure, until we flatten your curve. Oh, and “sell us back” your guns too, the good ones anyways, in the name of Public Safety™. We insist, it’s for your own good. An armed expeditionary force along with armored transport and a Revenue Canada Agent and a mail in ballot for next year’s election will be provided for your convenience if you are currently unable to comply. Sincerely, Your Duly Elected Government.

  17. Wish I had an app that would learn troll comments and auto hide them for me. The trolls really need to be scraped off so that normal people don’t have their valuable time wasted with mind numbingly stupid or dishonest posts

  18. “individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.“ Yeah the Supreme Court has never gotten anything wrong. “Police power of the state.” Sounds like a quote from Putin. “Out of many one” Yes we are a melting pot not a petri dish.

  19. I see many trashing the Republican Party? I’m confused, because it’s only one Person doing the blocking!

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