Can You Guess the 5 Most Popular Guns Sold in Your Part of the Country So Far In 2020?

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The National Shooting Sports Foundation has released its Online Sales View report for 2020 through the end of September. The data is provided by Gunbroker.com and provides a glimpse at what pistols, rifles and shotguns are the biggest sellers this year. You can see the full report here.

One of the more interesting tidbits is the sales data for new guns by region. The data is broken out for four quadrants of the nation and it’s interesting to see what names and firearm types crop up in each part of the country, along with some of the regional variants in the top five biggest sellers.

The northeast is the only quadrant with an AR-15 variant leading in sales.

The south seems pretty unremarkable, except, perhaps for the absence of an AR among the leaders.

SIG SAUER did particularly well in the midwest.

And then there’s the west where a high priced revolver made a surprise appearance among the leaders. Also note the higher price for the GLOCK 19, as well as what looks to be a typo or data error in the price of the SIG P320 here. That G43 price looks low, too.

There’s a ton of interesting data you can sift through should you be interested, but one more part of the report that’s worthy of not is Market Place Insights’ projection of NICS background checks for all of 2020, broken out by handguns, long guns and in total. Enjoy.

 

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  1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

    Whatever was in the display case is what got sold…

    1. avatar The other Larry in Texas says:

      When the Mossberg shockwave and the others show up at gun shows. I didn’t get one, didn’t think I would need that type of firearm. However, since the Seattle, Portland, and the other riots and people getting pulled from their vehicles, I think they would be good choices to have to defend against the domestic terrorists if you are driving near this mess.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Short, but still more difficult to maneuver in a vehicle than a handgun.

        1. avatar possum says:

          Heh heh, not if you lay it in your lap and shoot through the door. Hey GF, we like stories, got one for yah. My boss and I were out checking the corn we planted, as we were driving down the road, out in the middle of the field, a coyote was running. My boss is yelling “Role down the window!! Role down the window!!” As the windows comming down he’s reaching under the seat and out comes his .357, I kissed the seat and Boom right out my window. I got up and said “yah git hm?” He said “Nope, shot behind it, Damn that was loud.” drove about a quarter mile not saying nothing then, “Yah know possum, that corn needs a drink, 1/4 inch be nice “

        2. avatar James Campbell says:

          Vehicle?
          Two words……Steyr AUG! This thing excels while getting in/out/around vehicles.
          I got to see/shoot my sons AUG for the first time in August. Unreal manuverability and balance.
          Even with the 20″ barrel it’s relatively compact, and shooting one handed is actually enjoyable (shouldered or extended arm). Just don’t try the extended arm stuff with a drum mag, unless your Ahhhnold.
          Almost forgot, Trump/Pence 2020!

  2. avatar Thixotropic says:

    Glock 19, 17 STILL the best sellers for a reason.

    Give me a Gen3 Glock compact frame and I can customize it to my liking otherwise. TONS of aftermarket parts available.

    Have several blasters in .357, .40 S&W, 9x19mm that have served me well.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      The Glock is this era’s K frame. Simple to use. Simple to maintain. Everything you need with nothing you don’t need.

      1. avatar Perfection says:

        ” I can customize it to my liking otherwise.” Yeah nice attempt at a spin, you CAN customize, or you NEED to customize it just to be on par with other pistols that cost less and are ready to go out of the box.

        What you say is true about the aftermarket “support” thats because the pistol so deeply needs it.

        Frankly, Glocks are the most over-rated firearm out there.

        WAY Overpriced, over $550 for a $350 dollar pistol.

        Unnatural grip angle.

        Horrible plastic sights.

        Terrible triggers.

        Unsupported barrels.

        Needs a stippling job out of the box.

        Ugly..Yes that matters

        Needs another $500 in after-market parts to bring it up to snuff.

        And has been surpassed by a number of other manufacturers, including Shadow Systems which has done what Glock should have years ago, improve a deeply flawed platform.

        The real irony is the very thing you praise, sales, is the very reason Glock will not spend the money to update what the Glock fan boys (and now uninformed nOoBs) will buy simply because of the name (cough Apple).

        Every time Gaston mounts one of his ponies or mistresses he must let out a long laugh and think “Everything I need with nothing I don’t need.”

        1. avatar Matt says:

          OK, I’ll buy your Glock for $50.00 and some beef jerky.

        2. avatar jwm says:

          Except that there is no need to customize a Glock. People choose to do so. But then folks will buy any brand of car and give them the personal touches they ‘feel’ they need.

          Spend your money any way you wish. But to claim the Glock isn’t combat ready out of the box is bullshit.

        3. avatar burley says:

          You said “…deeply flawed platform…”
          I don’t that there is any support for that argument.
          I agree that they may be overpriced, but market share is generally a good indicator of what’s good for most. Clearly, the Glock is what’s good for most. I switched to Glock after a range session where I just plain shot one better than my pistol at the time(92fs), that I had lots of time with. First mag with the glock was tighter. Yeah, it kinda hurt my feelings a little, cause I had sorta believed some haters that say whay you said but then I realized it was just haters hatin’ not accurate reviews. They ain’t pretty unless you’re a form follows function guy…

        4. avatar frank speak says:

          …..no safety…

        5. avatar gus says:

          they are not overpriced. they only have 34 simple parts pitting the high dollar machining and metal treatment where it counts. yes, they are worth 550.

          the grip angle is perfect. are you also going to bitch about the bore axis being too low?

          the plastic sights only cost 5 bucks. don’t like them, let the moths out of your wallet and buy a Glock with OEM steel or OEM night sights. and it’s a good thing you don’t run a nulti-billion dollar company that puts a $100 part on the gun that is guaranteed not to be the preference of half your customers no matter what it is.

          the triggers are adequate for all but noobs. put some time on it and it’s not a problem at all.

          there was 1 barrel that was unsupported. early .40 and that was resolved with the later Gen3’s. but yo uare going to say they are all bad, 9mm 10mm .45 and .357 too out of all 3543434 models they have. uh huh.

          did not need stippling with Gen3, it was adequate and you wil notice that it very much resembled HK USP grips. (or vice versa) are you going to bitch about HK too? anyway with Gen4 and Gen5 you don’t have anything to complain about.

          they aren’t really ugly. it’s a tool. are you going to bitch about hammers, saws and wrenches being ugly? whatss your idea of pretty? you want a pink Glock with flowers on it?

          they don’t need any amount of money to “bring them up to snuff” they work right out of the box and that is well known. there have been people who took them right out of the box and without lubrication shot a few thousand rounds without failure. there have been no instances of anyone doing that who did experience a failure. I don’t know what planet you are on but the Glocks they sell there must be cheap chinese knockoffs. why don’t you send a few sampels to the Glock factory here on Earth for examination, they might be interested. I’m not.

        6. avatar Matt says:

          How did the old timers keep from slaughtering themselves in a world filled with revolvers without safeties?

    1. avatar Rad Man says:

      Arte Johnson was the only judge to ever give a score of zero, on the Gong Show.

      1. avatar Sam I Am says:

        Yep, then wuz the gud ol’ daze.

  3. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

    No rifles on the south list because we already know what to take to a gunfight. And own one.

    1. avatar joel says:

      yeah there is no shortage of MSR’s in my neck of the woods. Looks like the south was lacking some duty sized guns.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        joel, I’m guessing you mean duty sized handguns since the Tubberware models 19 and 17 were at the top of the list. Remember, those are 9mm. They were for the girls. The men down here already own .45’s.

        1. avatar Joel says:

          I thought .45’s were only for those trying to compensate for other shortcomings! 😂

          Yes, by “duty sized” I did mean double stack handguns typically favored by law enforcement. And I was more referring to the form factor than the caliber. .40 is still the favored round of most law enforcement agencies in Tejas….

        2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          joel, Freudian psychology was debunked before my parents were born. Ballistics? Not so much. The same thing that put a man on the ground over 100 years ago (you know, when 9mm and .45 ACP hit the battlefield) still does today. That’s bigger, deeper holes. LE (and military) carrying double stack is something I have laughed at for a long time. Why? Planning on missing a lot? I remember qualifying the first time with my agency. Don asked why I carried a .45 instead of a wonder 9 like him. I asked for a 9mm round. I dropped the entire round down the barrel of my 1911 (cleared, of course) and shook it. That round rattled like a dry bean in a can. I dumped the round into my palm, handed it back and said, “That’s why.” Then I shot 100%. His target looked like he was patterning a shotgun. It’s not the number of rounds. It’s what you do with them.

        3. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          joel, forgot to mention. I own several 9mm’s. On the rare occasion I carry one I carry a single stack. Which reminds me. I have a nice Sig P-226 with at least four spare mags. Trade for a Sig P-225 in like condition. Would like at least one spare mag.

        4. avatar Montana Actual says:

          kool “boomer” story bro.

          Just curious, if you know “bigger is better”, why not carry something bigger than a .45? lol. It’s rhetorical, I don’t care.

        5. avatar possum says:

          I scratch CM6.5 on bottom of all my 9milnmeder cases.

        6. avatar gus says:

          because your choices are 9mm, .40, .357SIG, .45, and 10mm. pick one diaper boy.

        7. avatar Joel says:

          Gadsden the .45 comment was simply an attempt at humor. All handgun rounds suck. (This is where our little thread started. If you know there will be a gunfight, bring a rifle. : -)

          Hits are better than misses.
          Bigger is better than smaller.

          Carry what you shoot well, and practice with what you carry.

    2. avatar GunnyGene says:

      Yup. 😉

    3. avatar James Campbell says:

      “No rifles on the south list because we already know what to take to a gunfight. And own one.”
      One?
      I think you mean several. With a thousand round minimum on hand for each AR-10 and AR-15.
      Handguns are only used while getting to the ARs. 😀

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        James, you’re correct, of course. I and all my friends own several. But, only 1000 rds each? And AR’s? No. That ain’t us.

        1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          Gadsden Flag,

          I know that you are not thrilled with the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge and would thus not be thrilled with AR-15 platform. What is you reason for dismissing AR-10s shooting the likes of 7.62x51mm NATO (e.g. .308 Winchester)?

        2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          Uncommon, thanks for an intelligent question. First, the caliber is not what I have against an AR-15. It’s reliability. Though, a .223 will never be a .308. As to the AR-10. I like it a lot better than the AR-15. Stoner developed the platform around 7.62 NATO. It’s certainly less prone to breakage. Bigger parts. By all accounts more reliable also. That said, I have extremely reliable weapons platforms now. Have for years. Not swapping rowboats in the middle of the river.

        3. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          Gads,

          I agree about the caliber. I have 5.56 because it’s common. But I also have (and prefer) .300 BLK because a .30-cal hole results in greater damage/bleedout than .22-cal. I consider .300 BLK the perfect caliber for an AR MBR, as it makes the hole that a .308 does, while allowing for the loadout capacity of 5.56.

          But TEHO. As long as we’re fighting on the same side.

        4. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          Haz, you have a valid point, but all my serious rifles are chambered in U.S. military calibers. For obvious reasons. One in a Com Bloc caliber. Just because you should.

        5. avatar AD of the Hinterlands says:

          Reply in general. 7.62NATO is cheaper than 5.56 at the LGS. I said, “Give me the big ones, then.”

        6. avatar Bruce says:

          “I consider .300 BLK the perfect caliber for an AR MBR, as it makes the hole that a .308 does, while allowing for the loadout capacity of 5.56.”

          Except that .300 BLK ammunition is extremely hard to find, while billions of rounds of .223/5.56 are in private hands. I have a 7.5” .300 BLK pistol, with another under construction (have the upper w/barrel, lower, brace, trigger, etc, Missing BCG, buffer, etc). Dozen Magpul 30 round magazines. But fewer than 200 rounds of ammunition. Thinking about switching to maybe a 10” 5.56 build for the interim, because I have plenty of ammunition for that. A friend did manage to pick up 500 rounds of .300 that he had back ordered, and will try to include a bit of that in a trade that we are doing in a couple days.

          I agree that .300 BLK is probably almost the perfect caliber for an AR-15 used in closer quarters. Not only does it make bigger holes, the powder apparently burns faster, and normally is available both supersonic and subsonic. I think that the problem is that it’s popularity has soared this year, esp thanks to the BLM/AntiFA riots, at a time when ammunition production lines are running full out. The result is that it appears to be much easier right now to find uppers with .300 BLK barrels (or just the barrels) than the ammunition to feed the guns.

        7. avatar gus says:

          agree with that 100%. and if you do 300BLK you have to reload.

        8. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          Bruce,

          I have plenty of ammo in all calibers. Thousands in each. Including .300 BLK. I’m set. Anyone who waited until 2020 to buy ammo, after all the writing on the wall we’ve seen over the years, well…

    4. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Gadsden Flag,

      There is no doubt that a rifle is far superior to a handgun in a gunfight.

      For those of you who are unaware, there is an extremely important consideration in the rifle-versus-handgun quandary. In a prolonged societal collapse situation where countless people are extremely desperate and resources have dwindled substantially, someone will most likely snipe you in short order if you walk around the remnants of society with a long gun in your hands or even strapped on your back. Why? Two reasons. First, other people will figure that you can promptly take — by force — any of their meager remaining supplies, will chose to err on the side of caution, and snipe you before you rob them. Second, many people will think that they can promptly take — by force — any of the meager remaining supplies if they have a long gun so they will snipe you in order to acquire your long gun. Note that the same goes for openly carried handguns as well for the very same reasons.

      This is not theoretical: this is experience coming from someone (not me) who managed to survive the Kosovo-Bosnia-Herzegovina collapse. That person’s primary pearls of wisdom: carry a concealed handgun, do NOT carry any visible firearm (especially long guns), do not reveal that you have items of value, and conduct any trading in an open environment with lots of other people around.

      1. avatar Lunknard says:

        Yup. Was reading some prepper site that was telling me what to stock up on for bartering. Forget that. Barter is high risk. People blab. People sneak around looking to see who has stuff.

        Tough though. In a SHTF, societal collapse scenario, people we know will need our help.

        1. avatar Darkman says:

          That’s why Our group is multi prepared. Plenty of bang sticks/ammo and other supplies. What many people forget is expertise in different fields especially medical. Having people with formal medical training in your group can be as important as anything else. Having someone with reloading capabilities can also be an asset. Bartering is Verboten with people you don’t know very well and best used in a Your needs only situation.

        2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          Lunknard,

          Bartering is practical/feasible (e.g. reasonably safe) in a prolonged societal collapse as long as you are not carrying anything of really high value and you are trading with somewhat known people.

          I figure it this way: if you are carrying a box of kitchen matches or a pint of vodka in a small bag, the overwhelming majority of people would not want to risk the associated dangers of strong-arm or armed robbery for such a small score. In that case, it is a better risk-reward to simply barter or not barter at all. Furthermore, you will likely be able to trade additional items in the future which makes you a valued resource over time. Again, it would be better to keep you around for future trades when that other person might really need something desperately than to maim/kill you over a pint of vodka right now.

          Contrast the above with a scenario where you show up to an open-air “trading post” with a cart loaded with 200 cans of tuna fish. That could very well be a valuable enough score that someone would risk trying to rob you. Instead, travel to the “trading post” with four cans of tuna fish in a small bag and trade that for something of similar size/value.

        3. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Bartering is practical/feasible (e.g. reasonably safe) in a prolonged societal collapse as long as you are not carrying anything of really high value and you are trading with somewhat known people.”

          Wait a minute….

          What about all those Kreugerrand I stashed the last 20yrs? I have those for trade in a calamity. They are very valuable. Are you saying I shouldn’t trade those coins with people outside my neighborhood? My neighbors will be looking to trade stuff because they don’t have survival items stuffed in the basement, or under the garden. Are you saying my Kreugerrand are essentially worthless in a crisis? That’s not what the guy on TV said. I’m supposed to be rich in a collapse, and buy up anything I want.

        4. avatar MADDMAXX says:

          The most valuable item in a total collapse will be skills (gunsmith, welder, mechanic, survivalist) then the staples (guns, bullets, fuel and food) but the MOST desirable will be the habituals (alcohol, tobacco, recreational drugs and sex).. I’ll be setting up a NEW Department of ATFDandSP for the Southern Region. just call me “Boss Hogg” without the dumb… OBTW, your Kreugerrand might get you a 1/2 pint of shine and a roll your own if I’m feeling charitable that day..

      2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Uncommon, walk around armed, unarmed, concealed in a situation like you describe and you might as well wear a sign that says, “Shoot me!” My friends and have prepared and continue to. We will be on our chosen ground. We’ve been roaming it for a minute. We’ll do the sniping there.

        1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          Gadsden Flag,

          We will be on our chosen ground.

          Of course that is ideal.

          Not everyone will be in such an excellent situation where they can stay on their own land/territory for a month (much less indefinitely). I was referring to situations where someone needs resources and has no other choice other than to venture out and try to trade/barter beyond their own land/territory. In those scenarios you want to be as low-key as possible — and carrying a visible firearm (especially long guns) is definitely NOT low-key.

    5. avatar Country Boy says:

      Funny I bought 3 ARs and two Sigs…….and I live in the South. But already had several other rifles and handguns………graph for my area not so accurate.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Country, you’re one among millions. Not even a statistical blip. But, good for you!

    6. avatar Ed Schrade says:

      In the south, we already built our A R supply.

  4. avatar possum says:

    Around here just about anything that throws a bullet gets sold. Now get this, got a phone call last night, guy had an AK $200 dollars, it was a done deal until I told him I’d have to run it through NCIS, ” uhhh I’ll think about it.” his reply. I should have just bought it, had the cops run the numbers but I did that once and lost the gunm and my money, I’m like WTF aint you guys going to give me my money back. “No we don’t do that.”

    1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

      possum, you run the numbers before you buy the firearm.

      1. avatar possum says:

        Used to be I could, call up the county cops, give them the numbers and theyd check it out for you. Now they won’t do that.

        1. avatar CTstooge says:

          “Red means run, son, and numbers add up to nothin’ “

        2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          possum, don’t know where you live, but here you can run the numbers through the state for a small fee.

  5. avatar Cruzo1981 says:

    AR15, Glock 19, P320, Glock 17, Glock 43X/48? Wild ass guess before reading to see if I’m right. I live in Texas.

  6. avatar Sam I Am says:

    If TEOTWAWKI happens, I want real firepower, real stopping power:
    .500 calliber, or 6.5 Grendel.

    1. avatar seatex says:

      .308 is good enough for me, with better ammo availability – well, compared to other larger calibers anyway.

      1. avatar Todd in the sticks says:

        I was never a 308 guy until a few years ago. In Appalachia, a 30-30 is good for the close stuff and an 06 or 270 works if you need something stronger. When I finally found an affordable AR-10, I became a big fan of 308 since mine feeds 308 and 7.62 NATO and is accurate with both. Than I had to buy a bolt action 308 because…well, just because.

      2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        sea, you’re right. You can shoot them with something different, but you’re not going to shoot them with anything better. Shoot someone with a .308, especially soft point, and they’ll stay shot.

  7. avatar Daniel Hoover says:

    Don’t care what the popular guns are. I have what I need and that’s all that matters. FTW

    1. avatar Mortimer Beetroot Plimpton says:

      Amen, brother.

  8. avatar former water walker says:

    Slim pickin’s at my LGS’s. Whatever was there sold. And I’m OK with what I got. Will the hoards of new gun owner’s vote R? Not holding my breath…

    1. avatar Ironhead says:

      Was out at gat guns in dundee… they got a pretty good selection still. Except on ammo.

      1. avatar former water walker says:

        Almost bought a gat at Gat. Being mebbe 60miles away dissuaded me. My last gun was a used but “new” never shot AR at my favorite pawnshop in Highland,IN. And all my ammo came from Indiana. Cheap. I can’t even find a Maverick88 20″ barrel. Had one and stupidly sold it. Oh well…

  9. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    I purchased whatever I thought was prudent at least 12 months before COVID-19 was unleashed on us.

    Now I have to consider what, if anything, I am willing to sell — and I have no idea what to do in that regard. On the one hand, I definitely have a few firearms that I could sell which would NOT reduce my ability to take care of business. On the other hand, having several spares is also nice for several reasons. What to do?

    1. avatar Joel says:

      It’s a tough call, but I’d bet you could double your money on at least a couple of your extras. Only way that would backfire is if there is a complete societal breakdown in your neighborhood. I do not personally expect to break out into civil war anytime soon, but nothings off the table at this point I guess….

      I do not have any “extras”. In fact, I was planning on picking up a few items this year before this most recent run on all things gun. I’ve decided to wait it out rather than pay the premiums. Hopefully there isn’t a complete societal breakdown in MY neighborhood. 🤨

    2. avatar gus says:

      I would say nobody knows wtf is going to happen after next month. could be anywhere from barely anything at all, to multi-factional warfare (in some parts of the country) so bad that the Army has to intervene, with hundreds of thousands of casualties before order is restored, leading to interruption of gasoline/food/electricity and more collateral death, etc.

      do you want guns? or do you want the money? your call.

      1. avatar Art out West says:

        Guns and ammo are great, but hopefully everyone also has extra food, clothing, water filtration, energy/fuel, medical supplies, and some cash on hand. A lot of gun guys spend a bundle on guns and ammo and fail to prep in other important areas. I tend that way myself. Make sure your preps are well rounded.

        1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          +1 on that advice. I started my serious preps a decade ago, building up the inventory each year. Now I have ample in all categories, though I’m currently adding to the “food” section again.

    3. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

      subtlety and logic aside, i hear only remorse from those who’ve sold guns. unless it was a davis p380.
      sell hi/ buy lo is attractive, and things should get back to there…

      1. avatar Joel says:

        I’ve bought and sold many, many firearms. Only regret selling a few. Most of which I never would have owned in the first place if I wasn’t buying/selling/trading a few guns a year.

        Trading can be especially fun. Once I started with a PF9 Kel-Tec, and A few trades later owned a CZ P07. No cash exchanged.

        Not everyone can afford to buy and hold.

  10. avatar Lunknard says:

    I’ve got 3k rounds of 9mm. 1k rounds of 12 gauge. 500 rounds of .380. Often wonder, how many gun fights would I have to be in before my ammo runs out? How likely is that?

    1. avatar Darkman says:

      It’s best to not have to find out. Cause once You’re out, You’re screwed in a fire fight.

    2. avatar Joel says:

      That’s quite a few normal “gunfights” worth. Or one very long night of civil unrest’s worth……

    3. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Lunknard,

      Your round count is more than adequate for several months of societal collapse.

      Caveat: my comment above refers to self-defense events only. Your round count may not be adequate if you and/or others want to train and achieve significant gains in proficiency/accuracy — especially if someone has little to no previous skills/practice.

    4. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

      Lunknard. I’m sorry to say you’ll probably never survive enough handgun fights to use that much handgun ammo. Shotgun either. It’s close range, too. Buy a rifle. Keep them at bay as long as possible, or kill them at 100+ yards until they get tired of it and go away.

      1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

        i’d get tired of being killed quickly; not sure where i’d go afters though. well, some have suggested, but i’m not sure if that will be my only option.

      2. avatar Mercury says:

        100 yards isn’t anywhere near long enough to keep an opposing force “at bay.” At that distance you need a squad that can suppress, flank and flush with you or you’re pretty much guaranteed to get your ass shot off, even if it’s one-on-one. Unless you’re ambushing, but that’s a whole different story. At 100 it’s either attrition or disengage, and disengaging without casualties is hard.

        Typically firefights outside of heavily wooded or urban areas happen between 300 and 400, and that’s where superior marksmanship (meaning knowing your zero and accurately estimating range, not just shooting at a target stand that says “300” next to it) will win you the fight. Still better to have a squad, because if you’re outnumbered and the other guys can shoot straight at all, they can cover and advance on you. But with that much distance to close you’ve at least got a chance at picking them off on the way in as long as you have enough hard cover to choose from.

        Basically, if all you’re worried about is urban thugs, a pistol or a shotgun is workable. Rifle still preferred, but either way it’s going to be deter or ambush, with the former not actually requiring the ability to hit them and the latter happening at extremely close range. If you’re intending to defend your farmstead from bandits, you better bring some more guys and you’ll want at least one .50 to deal with technicals and possibly even killdozers if things get bad enough.

        Bottom line, you’re not going to be “picking off” any serious opposing force inside of 200 yards no matter what the circumstances. Bring a rifle, sure, but know how to hit a real target with it at any range, not just a piece of paper at multiples of 50. Most importantly, know a few good men who can do it too and have a plan to link up in an emergency, or more than likely you won’t get a chance to use your rifle and marksmanship in the first place.

    5. avatar gus says:

      there’s no telling how many rounds you might expend in gunfights, because they could be anywhere from 2 shots to get someone off of you, to repelling a gang of armed thugs who want to take your food and water. in that case, if the Army is any indication, they can spend anywhere from 20 minutes to 48 hours fighting a battle. you can take it from there.

      I think the more shots you have to fire, and the more gunfights you get into, your chances of survival decrease exponentially. so what you have might outlast you. but you sure don’t want to run out of ammo.

      1. avatar Mercury says:

        If you’re alone on foot, you want as much ammo as you can reasonably carry. If you’re in a vehicle, you want as much ammo as your vehicle can reasonably carry. If you’re holing up, you want as much ammo as your house can reasonably store. If you’re in a militia with a supply train, you (collectively) as much ammo as your supply train can reasonably transport.

        It’s not hard to figure out how much ammo is enough for your emergency plan. Just pick the right amount for it and spend the rest on spare parts and other supplies. No sense in having 10,000 rounds if your SHTF plan is to go hike innawoods and not come out until civilization comes back together.

  11. avatar JDR says:

    The absence of ARs in the South is most likely do to the abundance of ARs and AKs already owned in the South. Most persons were spending that money on ammo to sustain the ones they have. And backup pistols and shotguns were the next choice.

    1. avatar Higgs says:

      I suspect there is another reason.

      I think the lack of ARs is might be due to first-time gun buyers, who were anti-gun, but recently have seen the light on why gun ownership is good. I could easily believe they would purchase a handgun over an evil MSR cause ” No one needs and AR/AK” etc.

      I have not Purchased any Guns this year. I didn’t need to. I already had all the guns and ammo I needed for defense. I know a lot of friends and family who also have not made purchases for the same reason.

      Just a thought.

  12. avatar W says:

    I hope that many of the newbies learn that the guns that they are buying are the guns that Harris/ Biden/ Bloomberg/ Beto want to ban.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “I hope that many of the newbies learn that the guns that they are buying are the guns that Harris/ Biden/ Bloomberg/ Beto want to ban.”

      Once “they” are assured that your guns are being confiscated, it is likely most of these new buyers will be all too happy to surrender theirs.

  13. avatar Soonershooiter says:

    Guessing that the NE citizens are less likely to CCW, so they purchased more rifles?

    Or, they fully expect that anything with a long barrel might be gone when Biden takes office, so 5.56 / 22 / and even a 9 mm PCC are going fast since this might be their last chance to get one of these?

  14. avatar Bigus Dickus says:

    A bird’s head pistol grip pump shotgun on the list for “the south”. Goes to prove we already have what we need, and took the opportunity to get something fun!

  15. avatar Prndll says:

    I almost bought a Ruger AR556 once. What stopped me was how cheesy the whole thing seemed to be. Its meant to be entry level.

    1. avatar possum says:

      M16 pro’s and cons: They’re light. They break you when you bash somebody in the head.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        They are light. In their original configuration. Only thing I did not complain about my issue m16. It and a 20 round mag only weighed about 7 pounds.

        Fast forward over 50 years and the tactikewl crowd are sporting AR’s that outweigh a Mosin Nagant. Everything on there but the kitchen sink.

        1. avatar possum says:

          Quite awhile back I said on here it was silly to buy a 6lb rifle and add junk until it weighed 12 pounds. And sorry to the companies that make add on, but to me, flashlights, halo sights, lazers, night vision scope, vertical handgrip, bipod, sound suppressor , three point slings, 9 position stock ,and a chain saw bayonet is a little much for one rifle. Fishing lures are made to catch fishermen .

        2. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “…and a chain saw bayonet is a little much for one rifle. ”

          Hey, now !

          That chainsaw bayonet is the only really useful accessory/add-on. Let’s not be insulting the chainsaw.

      2. avatar MADDMAXX says:

        Guns are for SHOOTING, a Louisville Slugger is for head bashing… If you need to use your AR as a club you (A) did not bring enough ammo/mags (2) you can’t shoot worth a damn or (C) you can’t run fast enough….

      3. avatar Prndll says:

        I don’t see myself ever owning an M16.

  16. avatar AD of the Hinterlands says:

    1. AR
    2. AR
    3. Semi- auto pistols
    4. Shotguns
    5. Revolvers
    Do I get a prize?

    1. avatar Art out West says:

      If you bought all that this year you do. It is called the irritated wife award.

      1. avatar possum says:

        Used to be my girlfiend would bring up my gunms when we fight( not discuss, fight, she’s half chimpanzee and has a temper) over money, a week ago she ask for one of my rifles to put in the bathroom. I didn’t want one of My rifles in the bathroom. So after she climbed around the room, broke some stuff, threw shit, and had a shit fit. We decided I need to buy a stainless steel gunm for her bathroom gunm. So things are looking up. Next she might want a kitchen gunm, that’d be nice, might give her a reason to go there.

        1. avatar Manse Jolly says:

          That’s funny as hell, don’t care who you are.

          Needed that, going to be a long day today.

        2. avatar gus says:

          Glocks are dishwasher safe

    2. avatar El Duderino says:

      I bought a scarce S&W Mountain Revolver and built an AR45 suppressor host. That’s it this year. Unless you’re way off the beaten path (like those two), prices are just stupid right now.

  17. avatar bob says:

    Not in calif, most of those aren’t even on the roster.

  18. avatar jimmy james says:

    5 miles from my house, the LGS is selling a metric ton of any small 9mm he can get (50 in a day) and all the 2nd hand AR’s he can get (3 of mine so far). Thats all thats selling and thats all hes selling.

  19. avatar El Duderino says:

    Umm…are you going to try and tell me more Colt Pythons sold out West than, say, Ruger 10/22s?

  20. avatar Joseph says:

    The .45 is a good round, it is not a death ray. If you unfortunately ever get in a real shooting you might realize that they make a hole going in and a hole going out. Just like a 9mm. I personally know other officers who have had failures to stop with the .45, including six to the upper chest area. Having been in several shootings on duty, I’ll damn sure take more bullets over bigger ones, if I can’t get to my rifle. A handgun round is a handgun round, Myths are fun though, aren’t they?

    1. avatar MADDMAXX says:

      I personally know other officers who have had failures to stop with the .45

      I PERSONALLY shot and KILLED a number of individuals with a 45 AND I know a bunch of old Marines who had the exact same opportunity and outcome as I did… Sometimes size (and type of round) really does matter….

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