Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Supreme Court Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky, File)

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg came in for no small amount of criticism for failing to retire during Barack Obama’s time in the White House. But she was apparently so sure that Hillary Clinton was going to win the presidency in 2016, she had no real concern about a Republican naming her replacement on the Court.

When Donald Trump was sworn in, it was clear that she was going to do everything in her power to try to remain on the Court until he was safely voted out of office after only one term. She nearly did just that. Today Ginsburg lost her long battle with pancreatic cancer.

As the AP dryly puts it . . .

Ginsberg’s death just over six weeks before Election Day is likely to set off a heated battle over whether President Donald Trump should nominate, and the Republican-led Senate should confirm, her replacement, or if the seat should remain vacant until the outcome of his race against Democrat Joe Biden is known.

Uh huh. If they actually think that Trump will wait to see if he’s reelected before naming a replacement, we have some beautiful beachfront property in North Dakota we’d like to talk to them about.

Harry Reid and the Democrats used the nuclear option and killed the filibuster on judicial nominees back in 2013, apparently figuring they would forever be in control of the Senate. As Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell has done a remarkable job of pushing through a record number of Trump nominees to the federal bench over the last 3 1/2 years, largely remaking the federal judiciary. And whatever may have happened to the Garland nomination in Obama’s final days in office, you have to expect he’ll push through a Trump nominee come hell or high water.

If that happens, it would, of course, be very good news for gun rights. Since assuming the middle seat on the court, Chief Justice John Roberts’ squishy, unpredictable vote has resulted in all pending Second Amendment-relate cases being denied cert, rather than risking an adverse Roberts decision. A fifth solidly conservative appointment — joining Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh — could be exactly what gun rights supporters have long been waiting for.

And then there are the potential political angles to a quick replacement for Ginsburg. A solid conservative choice pushed through now would further energize the Republican base and demoralize Democrats. It would also, no doubt, result in one of the most incendiary Senate fights in decades. But without the filibuster, there’s little Senate Democrats could do, short of convincing three Republicans to abandon a Trump nominee.

There’s also the issue of what would happen if the November election results in another Bush v. Gorestyle Supreme Court decision. If you’re President Trump, do you really want to put your fate in John Roberts’ hands?

In short, buckle up. It’s about to get very bumpy and awfully entertaining. There isn’t enough popcorn in the world for what we’re about the see in Washington.

 

 

332 COMMENTS

      • “I’ll mix a little bourbon with my Coke”

        A splash of Coke in your bourbon would be more appropriate… 😉

        • Drink recipe.
          12oz Bourbon or to taste.
          1.5 gallons hot circulating blood.

          Only wankers, tossers, and posers, dilute their whiskey. Nuff sed…
          addendum… I do loves me a good boilermaker though… low hops beer and rye.

        • Excellent plan, unfortunately I’m out of Coke. Try Balcones “1”, I like lotsa ice and nothing else.

        • Actually only wankers, tossers, posers and whiny little karens care how other people take there drink. Real men don’t care as long as your not interfering wth their drinking.

      • Because it’s bad juju I’m not going to celebrate the death of an elderly person. None the less she should not have ever been a member of the USSC. Her job was to protect my Rights and not rearrange the Constitution to suit herself, etc.

        Rest assured the democRat Party will attempt to use her death for political gain the same way they tried to use the death of Paul Wellstone for political gain. The Wellstone Memorial turned into a huge democRat Party butt show. It was a disastrous party atmosphere display of stupidity that backfired big time.

        If there is a Ginsburg Memorial it will be an endless drama queen love fest with vagina hats required for admission while barf bags are advised for home viewing the crocodile tear shenanigans.

        • Ding freaking dong that wicked azz eating witch is dead, so I guess Hell is flaming brighter with Ginsburg and her injustice hanging out there.

        • When it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices, and when the wicked perish there are shouts of gladness.” – Proverbs 11:10

        • I’m just happy she’s done as a justice on the SC, speaking of which, she now goes before the final court of justice with her as the defendant, and almighty God as the judge.

        • The Wellstone Memorial, wow, that was a new low for the Leftists.

          (And the loss of a drop-dead sexy, gorgeous Beech twin turboprop…)

        • Is is bad that the first thing to pop into my head was a little song from the Wizard of Oz?

          Ding dong

          RBG just found her way to the real Supreme Court, as we all will eventually.

        • Don’t feel too bad, Art; I’m guilty of the same. I’m not happy for her death, just the end of her tenure in USG.

      • That’s my sentiments. I don’t wish death on anyone (non-seeking agnostic) but I think a proper course of action for many officials would involve tar and feathers.

        • Cooter,
          I wish justice for everyone. Justice is my criterion for good – not “nice”, and not “life” (a material fact that is neither the highest moral principle, nor a moral principle at all).

          An action or event is good precisely to the extent that it is just: a fair wage for a decent worker, an award and/or promotion for an exceptional worker, starvation for someone who refuses to work, a bullet for a home invader – all equally just, and therefore equally good, desirable, and worthy of celebration.

      • Remember when I commented several weeks ago that her choice to remain on the bench until she literally died – as compared to stepping down to retirement – brought up the issue of whether Justices can be declared medically unfit? How was she able to hold on, after falling asleep in front of the whole world during a SOTU address, multiple bouts with cancer and related trips to the hospital and treatments, and basically looking like a female Stephen Hawking near the end? If there is a prescribed method to remove POTUS from office (25th Amendment), as is being much-discussed as the “Biden/Harris” strategy, why is there nothing for SCOTUS Justices, other than Congress having to vote him/her out?

        Needs to be discussed at high levels, methinks.

        • Justices can be removed only by impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate. There’s nothing preventing a Justice from being impeached, convicted, and removed for reason of incapacity, although that’s never been done.

        • Alan, you are correct, but as you state, it has not been done to a SCOTUS Justice. Other Federal judges, yes, but not in the High Court that I’m aware of.

          Justices serve at the behest of Congress and for “good behavior”, though I firmly believe RBG broached that requirement when she openly stated her political leanings when she said back in 2016 that America would “go to hell” if Trump were to become President.

        • “Remember when I commented several weeks ago that her choice to remain on the bench until she literally died – as compared to stepping down to retirement – brought up the issue of whether Justices can be declared medically unfit?”

          Great point.

          One of the ways to drive elderly justices from any bench, but especially SCOTUS would be to demand that they put in a regular 9-5 case-load schedule year-round, providing a few weeks off like people in private sector gigs have to do. These justices have a very short season of deliberation- insure that more time will be spent on more casework and demand a more rigorous schedule in the name of the people of the US.

          The same should be applied to those in the US Congress- once in session they should be kept in their assemblies to do “the people’s” business rather than work 2 days per week, run around the world on junkets or spend 4-5 day weekends at home or elsewhere in an “effort to meet with their voters”. BULL!

          In this day and age, contacting one’s Congressional office is only a click away and anyone who believes they can go meet with their Congressman, or especially their US Senator to discuss issues is worse than delusional. If these elites want to act like they are public servants, put them to work doing comparable hours in-office, just like people out here in the private sector must do. Earn the salary, earn the respect and see if they can earn a bit of public trust along the way.

        • Personally, I’m glad they only spend a couple days per week in the office. Limits the bad they can do. Maybe limit them to 5 minutes per week. They ain’t there for our good. They are they to skim, scam, squander, and buy votes with the Little Peeps money and gain power, personal wealth, and control of the little peeps.

        • Justice Anthony Scalia died while serving, was it OK for him to serve through significant illness because he was a man or because he was a Republican?

          With Ginsberg’s passing, it’s good that we have the MacConnell rule to follow:

          “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,” McConnell said.”

          The Republicans set the standard, let’s see if they have the personal and political integrity to follow the standard they set in 2016.

        • I’m betting that such a SCOTUS justice would be quietly told to step down tomorrow or be impeached the day after, which may have happened a dozen times. Obviously such courtesy cannot be extended to all judges.

          Meanwhile, the people have elected the President and the Senate, time to install a new Justice before 3 Nov. The way Dems told us it should be when Scalia died, exactly the same for Trump. Meaning “who holds the Senate”? Tough shit, elections have consequences.

        • Let’s see if Democrats have the integrity to advocate the same process they absolutely SCREECHED about 4 years ago. As if we didn’t know.

        • Integrity, miner? Did your key board burst into flames when you typed that.

          Hilarious how you fascists keep hoping others will play by your rules. You reaped this whirlwind and now it is coming.

          Enjoy.

        • @Umm…

          Nice. 🙂 Daniel 5:25-28

          “Your days have been measured, you have been found wanting…”, etc.

        • Now all we need is for the President to “deliver [her] kingdom into the hands of the Medes and the Persians” ASAP – well, not the Iranians literally, but you get the picture!👍

    • She hated the U.S. Constitution that she swore an oath to uphold (she was on record saying it should be more like South Africa’s Constitution, and suggested other nations looking for inspiration for their own Constitutions should look elsewhere than the U.S.’s for inspiration). She hated the individual right to keep and bear arms and swore up and down to have the Heller outcome overturned.

      Let me repeat that; for someone so up on women’s lib, she loathed the idea of an individual owning a firearm (to include women who, in raw physical strength, are no match for men–a firearm levels the playing field for them). If *ANYONE* should advocate for individual firearm ownership, it should be women. But no, so many of them literally want to go back to a time when the biggest and strongest held a monopoly on force over those smaller and weaker than themselves (i.e. see the Dark Ages/Feudal times).

      Judges need to uphold the Constitution and Amendments as-written; not interpret them based on their political leanings or vague notions. The chosen wording for the aforementioned documents is so plainly written, a layperson should be able to understand them (as was intended). It’s up to our House and Senate to change/add laws, and if we need to change the Constitution, that’s where Amendments come in.

      She used to be a fighter for bringing legal equalities to women, but I fear her position of power tainted her view of the very document she swore an oath to uphold. Anyone can become a tyrant, given enough power for long enough.

      Nex ut omnibus tyranni

      • “Judges need to uphold the Constitution and Amendments as-written;”

        Upholding the Constitution is, quite literally, a matter of opinion.

        • Not for a constructionist who adheres to original intent.

          If you, Sam I Am, tell me something now as we enter into an agreement, and enough time passes that you and I die and our heirs meet to discuss the agreement and how to handle it, it would be wrong for any of them to “interpret” your clearly written words in his/her attempt to steer them toward a new intent, saying the agreement is a “living document”. Nay…what you said at the time of the agreement’s creation was what you meant, and that needs to be upheld.

        • “If you, Sam I Am, tell me something now as we enter into an agreement, and enough time passes that you and I die and our heirs meet to discuss the agreement and how to handle it, it would be wrong for any of them to “interpret” your clearly written words in his/her attempt to steer them toward a new intent, saying the agreement is a “living document”. Nay…what you said at the time of the agreement’s creation was what you meant, and that needs to be upheld.”

          The situation you present is why estate lawyers exist, and why other estate lawyers try to have such documents set aside. It is also why contract lawyers exist. In the end, if the matter goes to trial, it will be the opinion of the court that will prevail, i.e. interpretation of the law, and the meaning of the written agreement.

          In contract law, there is a concept called “substantial completion/performance”. Many a contract had been successfully contested under that concept. In all cases, it was the interpretation by the judge concerning contract term, performance, completion that determines what the written contract “said”, meant. (https://www.turnpikelaw.com/contract-law-what-is-substantial-performance/)

          Reality: If words meant what we want them to mean, and the meaning was unassailable by any rational being, there would be substantially fewer lawyers and judges. This is why there are so many opinions, legal and individual, regarding the intent of the founders, who spoke an obsolete form of the English language.

        • Sam,

          (sigh) You know the point I was making. All the lengthy argumentative replies just become white noise.

        • “Sam,
          (sigh) You know the point I was making. All the lengthy argumentative replies just become white noise.”

          Yes, I do. And my point was/is that nothing is absolute when it comes to two people disagreeing over a legal matter. You want the Constitution “upheld” as you understand it. I want it upheld as I understand it. And Francis, over there, wants it upheld her way. Which of us is correct? The answer, either way, is an opinion, an interpretation. Who decides the question? Whatever the forum for that decision, the result is an opinion, an interpretation.

        • Always a good read. However, the papers are not law; not the Constitution. Inferring the “true meaning” of the founder’s writings is, itself, opinion. Not even sure the papers can be included as evidence at trial.

        • >>”This is why there are so many opinions, legal and individual, regarding the intent of the founders, who spoke an obsolete form of the English language.”

          This makes me think you may have failed 4th grade English. We’re not talking about actual Old English, as-used in the original writing of Beowulf (which is obsolete). English comprehension is apparently a lost skill.

          The English used to draft the U.S. Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights/Amendments is still 98+% contemporary English. Plainly written, and if you read the WHOLE U.S. Constitution and Amendments, everything becomes contextually relevant and straightforward.

          If you’re still scratching your head over the very plain wording that was used, look at the scribe’s transcripts during the ratification proceedings for both the Constitution and subsequent Bill of Rights. All of their intent is there in those proceedings (of the first Constitutional Convention), plain as day:

          https://books.google.com/books?id=g6dsKXaPJG4C&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=do+we+have+original+scribe%27s+transcription+of+first+session+of+the+first+constitutional+convention?&source=bl&ots=gifa6jr0j_&sig=ACfU3U0tnG5aNK_Yz1iPy6g06xBnKrHryA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjr5dGU3PbrAhXIsZ4KHSP_A0g4ChDoATACegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=do%20we%20have%20original%20scribe's%20transcription%20of%20first%20session%20of%20the%20first%20constitutional%20convention%3F&f=false

          https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/convention-and-ratification.html

          A summation of it:
          https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-25-2-the-major-debates-at-the-constitutional-convention.html

          Or just read the Federalist Papers that were penned by James Madison, the father of our Constitution and advocate for the Bill of Rights. The plain intent is *there*.

          Lawyers are great at perverting the very meaning of words, obscuring the intent and confounding the language itself. To hijack something simple, make it complicated, institutionalize it, and profit.

          A lone lawyer in a town will starve. Two lawyers in a town will grow rich.

        • You are overlooking the point. Any rendering of the Constitution is an opinion of what “is” is. Can’t get away from it. There is no cosmic tribunal that will accepted as the unassailable gold standard of interpretation. Every word written, or spoken is subject to opinion as to its scope, meaning and application. If it were not so, no clarification of a statement would ever be needed.

          Let’s take a critical example and see how “upholding the constitution” is subject to different, legitimate differences in interpretation. Is the Second Amendment absolute? Be careful here because it will become quickly clear that it is not (although I maintain that it is*).

          If the Second Amendment is absolute, there can be no exceptions, nowhere, no time, nohow, none. However, it is legitimate to conclude that the founders could have never intended that there would be zero circumstances where limiting, even removing firearms from some people would be an “infringement” prohibited by the Constitution. If I posit that imprisoned persons should not be permitted firearms, I believe that I am upholding the intent and spirit of the Constitution. Yet, the plain language of the Second Amendment, as written and spoken does not recognize any exceptions. How can my idea of upholding the Constituiton be false, or a dereliction of oath? Isn’t it common sense that prisoners should not be allowed weapons, least of all firearms?

          The absolutist test must be applied when analyzing whether or not the Constitution is being upheld. Think about any provision of the Constitution. Are they all absolute? What about the First Amendment? Any type or manner of speech is permitted, under all conditions? Or is it only political speech that cannot be regulated? And who is the superior tribunal/entity that determines what constitutes political speech?

          Hypothetical: A Supreme Court Justice sits on the court because of being “a strict constitutionalist”. Overwhelming popular opinion is that said Justice will protect the Constitution, and adhere to its original intent. Then said Justice renders an opinion in a firearms case wherein said Justice appeals to long standing infringements (history and traditio) on the Second Amendment are permissible because the long series of legislation and judgements stand in agreement with a particular exception to the Second Amendment. Is this Justice, hailed far and wide as a strict constitutionalist, now in violation of the oath of office regarding defending and upholding the Constitution? Well in this case, said Justice levied an opinion that denying firearms to convicted felons is an justifiable exception/infringement. Said Justice can legitimately claim to be upholding the Constitution.

          We cannot escape the fact that declarations of upholding the Constitution are opinions of what the document actually declares. Sometimes opinions line up with our particular preferences, sometimes opinions line up with preferences we abhor.

          *When we want a proposition to be absolute, we must also accept the outcomes we don’t like.

  1. This could not have come at a worst possible time for the Leftists.

    This is going to hyper-politicize the election for conservatives who know the value of a reliable SCOTUS seat.

    Check this priceless gem out :

    “BREAKING NEWS: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies with her family around her at home after succumbing to pancreatic cancer at 87 after saying: ‘My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed'”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8749539/Justice-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-DEAD.html

    The Leftists are gonna flip the fuck out when they hear this! As Serge says, “The witch has finally met her bucket of water.” :

    • “‘My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed’”

      Sorry Ruth, your wish didn’t get granted but mine will. I wish she retired from the court years ago but she made her choice and choices have consequences.

      Remember gingsburg made a lot of nasty comments about trump the past 5 years. Why would trump do any favors to her with how she treated him?

      What are you guys drinking? I’m drinking liberal tears and my glass is overflowing. Cheers

      • I’m seriously considering heading to the liquor store for the first time in many, many years… 🙂

      • There is much rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth in the homes and halls of the left tonight. Long live the Republic of the United States of America! 🇺🇸

      • Trump made the campaign promise to get good people into the supreme court. I think he has to try to get a replacement for her and fulfill that promise.

        • “Trump made the campaign promise to get good people into the supreme court. I think he has to try to get a replacement for her and fulfill that promise.”

          Romney and Collins are out; declaring the choice should be post election. Kelly is a threat in Arizona. If he is elected, he can be sworn in right after the Nov election. That makes a bare 51 majority in the Senate…at the very best. One more, “losing with honor is the greatest achievement” Republicrat, and confirmation by the Senate may not be possible.

          Of course, it is possible the Repubs can pick up one or two Senate seats resulting from the election….if, as, and when Trump is re-elected.

          “The game is afoot, Watson.”

      • [Picture of Ruth Bader Ginsburg]

        “Trump will win re-election over my dead body.”

        As you wish… 🙂

      • I copied exactly the YouTube URL of that video and pasted it. The rest was automatic…

        • Ahh, I see. When I tried it was copy/pasting the shortened version of the link. Which is how it’s supposed to be done from what I read about Word Press pages. But dropping the full hyperlink works fine.

      • I am a clown, that naturally comes from having an excellent sense of humor.

        You, on the other hand, are a pathetic, bitter little troll that can’t accept the reality that you aren’t wanted in TTAG any more… 😉

  2. Oh god in heaven. No matter what side of the aisle you sit on, 2020 is continually proving it’s going to be a balls-to-the-wall pissrace of human pathos all the way to the end.

    This is going to be a fucking shitfest election season.

      • I’m thinking the new justice will be seated before Trump is reelected. The house doesn’t get a vote. Trump nominates, the senate confirms. All done in a week or two.

        • A bit longer than that , but that is what will happen.

          The ‘Ace up his sleeve’ Trump will have will be nominating a woman. that will make it much easier to clear the 50 votes required for confirmation.

          That makes it politically risky for the Leftists to do an all-out attack on her.

          I’m sure they will anyways, but that gives us license to return the favor in spades in the future… 😉

        • It might be harder than you think. Reports are Murkowski wants to wait. Romney will probably want to wait or vote against, just to screw Trump. Two more squishies or RINOs will make it unable to get 50.

        • The House does not get a vote? Thank you Paul, I did not know that! HOORAY!
          Now Trump needs to stop proffering these RINO types for the Supreme Court and put in a REAL right-winger.

        • Geoff, after the disgusting Kavanaugh shit show, it better not take much more time than that. There is every reason to tell the left to STFU and take a vote.

        • This is far different than 2016, over half of the ballots are expected to be mail-in, and the Leftists wrote the book on ballot-box stuffing.

          The Leftists are desperate to keep Trump out of office, nothing is too low for them to stoop…

        • *WHAT* wasn’t contested? Were you unaware of the constant drumbeat to impeach Trump beginning on election day and still continuing today, after he has already been impeached once? 30-40 million dollars and 2 years of absolute nonsense and lies, hate, and violence, for you to say “2016 was not contested”? Are you asleep?

        • The *vote* wasn’t contested. The *outcome* has been relitigated by so-called liberals ad nauseum since then, but the voting itself proceeded as usual and the state-level counts were uncontested in 2016 (well, technically November 2015).

          This time around is likely to be different.

  3. The Demon Parrot went to hell today. Providing me with a lot of entertainment in this train wreck of a [s]election season. I wonder if the spineless GOP will stand up in any way to the evil Leftists and their kept State Media.

      • Vote against a woman to replace her?

        Doubtful.

        Picking a woman nominee will be his savviest move, politically…

        • Agreed,Amy Coney Barrett should have been named instead of Kavanaugh,however Mittens dislike of president Trump overrides rational reality.

  4. Chuck Schumer
    @SenSchumer
    The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.

    Which is a repeat of Mitch from 2016.

    • The American people already have as much voice in the choice as they are going to get. The current president and the current congress were elected by the people, and the Constitution is very specific about when their terms of office end. Elected officials don’t depreciate. They don’t progressively lose their legitimacy as their terms in office wear on. They are the voice of the people, from the day they are sworn in until the last second before they leave.

      So, f*ck you, Schumer. You’re putting out a very, very thin argument.

      • Remember the Commiecrats thru dirty Harry Reid did away with the filibuster and would rue this day, well it’s come to pass.

    • Chuck Schumer after Scalia’s death in 2016: “show me where the constitution says the president’s only president for three years.”

      Mitch McConnell after Scalia’s death in 2016: “when the presidency and senate are held by opposing parties in an election year, the nominating process is pointless, therefore it should be held off until after the election.”

      Trump nominating a person who can pull 50 votes in a GOP held senate is entirely supported by both of these statements.

    • Won’t be decided by Schumer, Biden, or Trump. Will be decided as always, by the Senate. The Senate decided in 2016 and will decide today. Please note, in regard to Schumer’s idiotic nonsense about “3 years”, that Osama was perfectly welcome to submit a nominee, which he did. Rejected by the Senate out of hand. The same may happen to Trump’s upcoming nominee. The Senate will decide.

      • Yep. People keep talking about precedent and principles, but that’s just window dressing being mistaken for an actual window.

        The rules are simple and clear: The president has the power to nominate a candidate; the Senate has the power to accept or reject the candidate. That is all.

        There’s no required timeline. The president can wait or act instantly; the Senate can vote quickly or drag its feet indefinitely. Both parties have done it both ways, in varying combinations at varying times.

        In 2015/16, when the Senate refused to vote on lame-duck president Obama’s nomination of Garland and then accepted Trump’s nomination of Gorsuch, both sides played their roles according to the rules. It looks like time and circumstances are going to work against the Democrats twice in a row, which certainly sucks for them — but is also much better for America.

        And who on God’s green earth would ever have predicted that Donald Trump, of all people, could remake the federal judiciary in a constitutionalist mold? Almost makes me think there might be a divine providence looking out for the welfare of this creaky, ailing republic after all.

        • Trump, at heart, is a business man. Conservative justices are good for business. POTG benefit from conservative justices so it is in our best interest to vote for Trump. Trump himself may not be a die hard gun supporter but if his justices are conservative we will benefit regardless.

        • “Trump himself may not be a die hard gun supporter but if his justices are conservative we will benefit regardless.”

          No, no, no. There should be a 2A purity test, and a proven voting record supporting 2A regardless of the situation. We gotta stop voting for people not perfectly aligned with our individual principles. Only the right, righteous, pure of heart deserve our votes. Anything else is to dance with the Devil. Utilitarianism is the pathway to soiling our values.

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        • “It looks like time and circumstances are going to work against the Democrats twice in a row,…”

          There are currently 53 “Republicans” in the Senate. Collins and Romney are “No” for confirming an SC nominee. That leaves a one vote majority. McSally and Gardner are razor thin holding on. Losing one means a 50-50 split if the confirmation of a new Justice isn’t completed before the November general election. Losing two means the Dims will control the Senate, blocking any Trump nomination.

          Repubs are “defending” 25 seats; must win all. Most likely outcome is Trump re-elected, House and Senate controlled by Dims obstruct everything, again, for the next two years. Worst outcome is Dims win everything.

        • “You’re forgetting that the GOP will also pick up a Senate seat in Alabama.”

          There are apparently at least four Republicrats (Collins, Murkowski, Romney, Sasse[?], Gardner) who want no vote taken until a new president is sworn in, which is problematic enough. Trading McSally for Kelly would possibly be cancelled out by a pickup in Alabama, leaving the four listed above still squishy and unreliable. Assuming the cancelling scenario, the 3 vote majority for Repubs would be dealt a death blow by the four listed above. And this assumes every other Repub seat in play remains Repub.

          The down ballots will determine the fate of the nation, more than the presidential race.

        • Only the right, righteous, pure of heart deserve our votes. Anything else is to dance with the Devil. Utilitarianism is the pathway to soiling our values.

          Whatever helps you sleep at night, Mr. Romney. 🙂

          I agree that it isn’t a sure thing that Trump’s nominee gets through the Senate; there may be enough Romney-style cucks and traitors to derail the confirmation. But even the handful who don’t think there should be a vote before the election are still going to have to do it anyway if it comes before the Senate.

          The president is going to confirm a solid jurist who will almost surely be well-liked by the entire Republican base, and the pressure to confirm will be immense. The Democrats could still manage to give cowards like Romney a way to weasel out, but I put the odds at better than even that Trump and McConnell push it through successfully.

          BTW, regarding Mitt Romney, even my parents — Boomers who have a great nostalgia for the decorous bearing of ’80s and ’90s Republicans, are continually appalled by Trump’s crass behavior, and were proud to vote for Romney as a principled fellow Mormon — have soured on him after his smarmy grandstanding in the impeachment sham and repeated failures to stand up for the values he claims to hold.

          If he doesn’t vote for a solid, legally nominated conservative SC nominee and a Democrat ends up choosing the replacement, Romney is probably done for. A lot of people who voted him into office aren’t happy about his failure to stand up for them. He may be more likely to toe the line on this vote than you’d think at first glance.

        • Thinking a whole lot of Nevadans voted for Romney because he literally saved the 2002 Olympics. I was impressed with that, but living outside Nevada. His politics are very close to those of his father; paternal, not conservative.

          As for Mitt sticking his finger in Trump’s eye, I have to admit, Trump did humiliate him publicly with the whole audition/interview call for filling the Sec State position. Trump took that opportunity to stuff it to those Repubs who had opposed him in the primary. My observation is that by doing that, Trump ruined his first year in office, when he most needed at least token endorsement by all the candidates who lost the primary vote. The Establishment spent the next 3.6yrs seeking revenge; a total waste for everyone.

    • Sure go ahead and do that. Then, when there a Republican President and Senate, they’ll add 20 extremely conservative Justices.

      Democrats break norms, Republicans take them to their logical place, then Democrats cry.

      • And eventually, when we have around 1000 justices, it will occur to someone the answer is an Amendment imposing term limits on Congress, setting a number for justices at the same time.

        • We already HAVE 1,000 justices. They’re the spawn of Carter, Clinton, & Obama at the district level.

          Pray for this nation like your life depends on it, because it does. Ask the Lord to save this nation which He Himself ordained into existence. Be among the righteous for whose sake He will spare it.

          I’d love to break out the bourbon but I’m too busy inventorying ammo & adding to my prepper stash.

          We do have a chance. With a new conservative justice installed prior to Election Day the SCOTUS can slap down state attempts to steal the election with delayed counting and ballot harvesting.

        • ” With a new conservative justice installed prior to Election Day the SCOTUS can slap down state attempts to steal the election with delayed counting and ballot harvesting.”

          That is what is at stake here…

    • I doubt Joe Braindead could recite the SCOTUS justices with out reading off a teleprompter and even then he may not get it correct.

  5. Her body’s still warm and the right wing ‘Christians’ are already celebrating her death and kicking her. Great job!

  6. Ok now all of you never Trump gun owners out there. President Trump’s pick for all US Federal judges isn’t really that important correct???
    I do know many Libertarians where supporting Bernie Sanders. He even got some republican support.
    The globalist sickness is hard to eradicate.

    • Anyone who is or was supporting a socialist who admits he is a socialist and is proud of being a socialist, isn’t a libertarian.

      As far as celebrating, I prayed for her soul, for God to forgive her, reveal the truth to her, and give a chance to repent. Then I celebrated.

      • When crossing over, as the Lord appears one first falls to one’s knees. It’s automatic for everyone. Then the Lord will give her a review of her life and show her the minds, feelings, and hearts of all the little babies who were murdered. Oh I think she WILL be absolutely appalled, stunned, and remorseful as she begs, begs, begs for forgiveness. There but for the grace of God would have happened to her own children.

    • This statement is too ludicrous to be included in Aesop’s Fairytales. Pinocchio would be hard pressed to top it. The Mad Hatter couldn’t even make sense of it.

    • Don’t forget Hillary, her scumbag husband, Schumer and Biden. Burisma Biden lies constantly, stole $1.5 Billion, still has his kid on the communist board sponging money, and has had TWO brain aneurysms already leading to at least one stroke and surgery. If he weren’t so greedy he would have the good sense to retire and spend what time he has left enjoying life. He might not wake up tomorrow.

  7. Should send prayers for mercy.

    I think this is also the fastest spreading news that I’ve ever seen. I doubt 9/11 spread this fast.

    • Just threw out my back doing the Happy Dance! The only downside is the Left will make us sick of their bestowing sainthood upon a supporter of infanticide.

  8. If someone asks me in five years, “Do you remember what were you doing when you heard the news that Ginsberg had died?”

    My response, ” why, yes I do. I was streaming a Trump rally in my back yard while my dog was taking a dump.”

    God Bless ‘Merica

  9. She has much to answer for. I would hope that her transition to the next life endows her with the perspective to see the error of her earthly ways and that she atones.

    • It is appointed unto man(or gal) ONCE to die. After that the JUDGEMENT. I’m not celebrating. This may lead to an uncivil war. And the return of JESUS! After all hell breaks out…

  10. I wish her family well, and hope her passing was easy. We may have disagreed on many a political topic, but she was a woman of conviction and a fellow American.

      • Only you fuckwit shit for brains morons call me a liberal.

        Those two people were real patriots, not that crude scum in our White House. They disagreed and agreed, they fought and they argued. And they were great friends for decades. Hell, on opposite ends of the court and they went on vacations together with their spouses.

        That’s not relativism you addle brained over indoctrinated twit, it is AMERICANISM.

        Something you and all of Trumps sycophants populated cult either forgot about or never bothered to learn.

        Fuckwits like you are enough to make a maggot puke.

        • When a person is rich and powerful they aren’t effected by the consequences of thier rulings so they they can pal around with thier adversaries and call it commradery. I call it hypocracy and contemptible.

        • “Fuckwits like you are enough to make a maggot puke.”

          No surprise at all you’re well familiar with maggots, scumbag… 🙂

        • Just wait til the election results and 4 more years!

          Then again at least ‘enuf’ and the lincoln project will have job security, not that it will matter..

  11. Deluge the polls this November, like the force of a hurricane rain, a massive tidal surge. Keep Trump in office, flood the house with conservative lawmakers, wash the Senate, floor to ceiling, with Senators who love and respect our Constitution. Let Trump and the Senate set the seas to saturate the Judiciary with judges who will be true to the principles upon which the country was founded and who will uphold the Constitution as the law of this land!!

  12. YES… YES …Yesssss, the be – ach is ⚰️…
    Yes…! Now Trump better make a move.
    Roberts is a dud, so we need another real conservative to keep America, America…
    “””FREE KYLE”””

  13. President Trump. Nominate a Supreme Court Justice replacement before the Election. Make the Senate Majority Leader do his job. Schumer does not run the Senate, so he may not like it, but too bad. Justice Ginsburg should have been removed from the Supreme Count when she publicly advocated for the election of Hillary Clinton; at that point, she stopped being a Supreme Court Justice and became nothing more than a Washington, DC partisan politician.

    Get Ginsburg’s replacement seated before the November election.

  14. replacement has to be a Black Female LGBTQ-WTFBBQ or it’s WACIST! WAAH

    (Latinos, Asians, Native Americans, Native Alaskans, Native Hawaiians, Arabs, Turks, Jews, Klingons and Chinese Muslims don’t count. has to be Black)

  15. I never celebrate someone’s death with very few exceptions. I disagreed with her politics, probably wouldn’t have ever been accepted in circles, as she would have been in mine.

    I do respect her stubbornness, her will to live and her fight with cancer.

    I do know how her followers celebrated the death of those they disagree with. I am not going to stoop to that level. What I will do is wish her soul a peaceful journey, that her spirit finds the truth and can be forgiven for transgressions.

    • @FormerParatrooper: I am with you. Thanks for your post. It was a welcome light in an otherwise dark and hateful thread of posts.

        • I saw the Ding Dong reference on MeWe before I came to TTAG. My Senior Year in High School we performed “The Wizard of Oz” for our Springtime Musical. I “stole the Show” playing the Cowardly Lion, so, Yes, I cracked a *tiny* smile at a fond memory of a time long past. I never thought of RBG as a “witch” though. If it were Nancy Pelosi, it might be a different story…

  16. Rest in peace, Justice Ginsberg. I despised your jurisprudence, but I respect the hell out of what you accomplished. Prayers for comfort for your family.

  17. I doubt that the President or Mitch will move to appoint before election. No reason to.

    Doing so would energize the Left. Many Republican Senators are out campaigning away from Washington and would have to return. Even if the President does not win he has plenty of time to push through the nomination starting Nov.4th.

    Why throw gas on a already fire? Especially when you can use the current situation to the best advantage.

    The MSM is already spinning up the fear…Wait til tomorrows headlines and Mondays ..lol..what a show!

    EDIT: Notorious RBG was a pretty tough old bird, gotta give credit. Her and Justice Scalise have plenty to argue about now. It was a odd friendship they had.

    • Mitch McConnell has already issued a statement that he will bring a Trump Nominee to a vote on the Senate floor. So, the ball is in Trump’s Court now.
      One thing you could bet on is that if the situation was reversed Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi would be talking about confirming a Democrat President’s nominee over the upcoming weekend.

    • Politically it would make sense to let the dems block it… but it would have to appear like they’re trying to push it through for that to work.

      • “Politically it would make sense to let the dems block it…”

        They can’t, they don’t have the votes to block it.

        We have a 4 vote ‘cushion’, and if Trump selects a woman, the Leftists will have to proceed cautiously. This won’t be anything like Kav’s confirmation, with accusations of rape.

        And Trump will need the seat if the election count ends up in the courts, and that’s very likely to happen…

        • “…and if Trump selects a woman, the Leftists will have to proceed cautiously.”

          As they did with Palin? Or are doing with JK Rowling?

    • No reason not to, and there certainly *IS* a reason to, it is their damn JOB! SCOTUS is a justice short, Trump’s nominees are not only well known but PUBLISHED, for chrissake, just pick one out and send it in. McConnell can let everybody rant for 5 minutes each and take the vote, new justice actually on the bench before Nov 3. That is their job, it is their duty, WTF excuse is there to not do it?

  18. “…Mitch McConnell has already issued a statement that he will bring a Trump Nominee to a vote on the Senate floor. ..

    Obvious, but what is left out of Mitch’s statement is when this will happen. The media fear machine is spinning that there will be a nominee before RBG is even in the ground. They are hyperventilating OMG! OMG! OMG! My take is not until the 4th will Mitch move, but it’s only an opinion. Only Mitch knows for sure…lol

    • Yes, my inner cynic immediately replied to McConnell’s statement, “Yeah? I wonder if McConnell is hoping Trump won’t put up a nominee too quickly so there’s an ‘out’ to exploit…” . Dang that inner cynic of mine!

    • McConnell is struggling in re-election because he’s not popular with Republicans. NOT ramming Trump’s pick through would be surrendering to Amy McGrath.

    • Say what? McConnell promised a vote before the end of the year. If the election leaves Communists in control of the Senate, I expect it will be quite a bit before the end of the year.

  19. She should have retired years ago. No judge should be in the office past age 70. I disliked her politics and that is a shame because there should be no politics in the SCOTUS. Follow the Constitution and everything works out.

    • “She should have retired years ago. No judge should be in the office past age 70.”

      Justice Ginsburg died at 87. Justice Thomas is 80. There is no promise that he will die in time for Trump to nominate that replacement. If the Dims win the presidency next, and Thomas checks out after, will we be saying Thomas should have retired before Trump finished his first term?

      • If Trump loses, Thomas can retire and Trump can appoint his replacement, and the Senate can confirm it, before 3 Jan 2021. If they want to.

        • “If Trump loses, Thomas can retire and Trump can appoint his replacement, and the Senate can confirm it, before 3 Jan 2021. If they want to.”

          Highly unlikely Trump can get two new Justices confirmed before leaving office should he lose in November.

          But my point was that if Ginsburg should have retired at 80, what is the justification for Thomas serving past 80?

        • . . . because Ginsburg was a Liberal neo-Marxist that shat upon the Constitution and Bill of Rights and condoned the mass murder of infants, while Thomas is a Conservative and isn’t terribly keen on the New Holocaust?

          Other than that, I can’t begin to imagine why.

  20. Trump should hold off nominating ‘till after November to squeeze more votes out of you basket-dwellers. You’ve shown you can be dealt with high handedly.

    • In your teensy and brainless world, pray tell how you figure that would equate more votes? Did you think Trump supporters really hope Biden will be the one to pick justices, because he is soooo smart? Come on, maaan!

  21. Imagine if Kenneth Lee got nominated to the spot

    anyway I wonder if democrats are regretting eliminating the norm and rule for judge filibusters back in ’13 yet. Probably not. They are bad at telling cause and effect.

    • “Imagine if Kenneth Lee got nominated to the spot”

      I’m hoping the choice is Judge Amy Coney Barrett, just so they can’t accuse her of college rape…

  22. Sorry to hear the passing of a Activist Supreme Court Judge. She was a lawyer, but never served as a judge at the local, state, or federal level.

  23. As much as I disagreed with her politics I was always touched by her close friendship with Scalia. They disagreed on so most issues and were still friends, so they could honestly debate without what’s best for our country without lies and BS. If there was more of that in this country we would all be better off.

    Instead the B.S. flies.

  24. give satan your regards ruthie, as you check in to hell ,,, your decisions have helped enable the killing 100s of thousands of babies ,, YES babies, human LIFE , ripped to pieces by the decisions of this self admitted leftist feminist ,, she was no feminist ,,, 1/2 of the babies killed were girls!!!
    she WAS nothing more then an equal opportunity murderer by proxy
    she just didnt have the cajones to do the killing herself ,,,,,,,, but she was more then happy to order others to do the dirty work ………………………………………………………

  25. I was surprised McConnell was actually going to replace her quickly instead of beat around the bush like he does for everything. Then I remembered he’s actually struggling to win re-election because he’s weak with Republicans and not doing that would be suicide.

  26. Vote…..march out and vote in vast numbers……..Trump needs to win, Trump needs to hold the U.S. Senate……..whether the traitor republicans, romney and murkowski ( republican members of the democrat party), or the coward republicans, graham and collins, back replacing her before the election or not….we need to vote all 4 of them back into the Senate…..Trump needs to hold the Senate with enough votes to bypass romney and murkowski…..collins and graham will be braver after the election….so vote, vote for the 2nd Amendment because if biden is elected it is over. He will appoint rabidly anti-gun judges and justices and turn loose the democrat party lawyers to sue gun makers and gun stores……….so even if you can’t stand the rinos, vote……march out and vote at the polling booth so your vote will actually be counted.

  27. Using it to advantage…If I were the President and company I would let slip, super hush hush, that the person in the top pick position was a moderate to left leaning in some cases. Perhaps a woman of color LGBQ something….Sell the narrative and let the MSM run with it if they will. How could they not at least talk about it non-stop. Throw a name out there.

    The possibility alone will change or at least influence to a degree how some people will vote. My guess is some will jump ship and go for President Trump.

    On Nov. 4th the bait and switch takes place. History says there would be enough time left to seat a justice even if the President is not reelected. The four Rinos in the Senate are a problem though.

    The trick is to Sell it and make it believable.

    • That wouldn’t work.

      If President Trump selected a Differently-Abled Transgender Womxn of Colour who was pro-abortion-on-demand-for-any-reason-whatsoever-up-to-and-maybe-just-a-little-after-birth, donated to AntiFa and BLM, and vacationed in Venezuela every harvest season to help Maduro bring in the potatoes while taking time off from her pro-bono work defending Undocumented Immigrant Pedophiles, They would STILL be a candidate selected by Trump, and therefore anathema by the Left.

      Fact!

      • Hope you have a whole big bunch of bullets, Larry, as you’re liable to need them by the dozens in the near future. (This is not a smart-ass remark…I mean it very seriously. I do not think a lot of people yet realize that the Democrats have decided to win this Election by whatever means and at whatever cost, and I do think we may have to fight to the point of extinction for one side or the other.) Best Regards, DerryM

        • I’d have to agree they are going to pull out all the stops on this one. massive vote fraud, massive ballot fraud at the post office, hacking/fixing voting machines, election rigging, voter intimidation, payoffs, cheating every way they can. like never before.

          I really do think the scale of their cheating will overcome legitimate votes for Trump. if that’s the case, you can imagine what a nightmare it will be to overcome that.

          if Trump is the clear winner? they will contest, accuse, and deny everything, flatly denying that he won, believing their own lies and causing as much chaos as possible, maybe even trying (stupidly) to pull off a coup. which will fail.

          either way it looks like a lot of bloodshed is quite possible.

  28. Well, at least now if someone asks me to name one good thing that happened in 2020 I’ll have a ready answer.

    Ashes to ashes
    Dust to dust
    Farewell to you Ruthie
    and your rulings unjust
    Baby killers and tyrants
    maybe shedding a tear
    as for me and my friends
    we’ll be having a beer

  29. Any good person does not stay at their job until the day they die. She was a selfish liberal. She should have stepped down at 80 and allowed a choice of someone with much better mental acuity to take the position.

    Typical liberal, She may have effected change earlier in life, but all she did was to delay legal decisions later in life. Good riddance, I sent her off with a nice single malt scotch. Not the best scotch, I save that for hero’s.

  30. After her falling asleep at the State of the Union address, it is obvious that no Judge should sit until they die, They should have a mandatory retirement like everyone else, and so should all politicians. They do more damage after they become senile than should be allowed. Hopefully she is replaced by a Justice that has read and understands the Constitution, unlike several still servings members and politicians.

    • Good sentiments, but under the Constitution as it now stands, that is none of our business, no one is asking us. Since I support following the Constitution, in all things, then I’m willing to put up with RBG until she keels over. Or until we amend the Constitution. I just wish she had the same reverence for the document.

  31. Ginsburg should have preserved her dignity and resigned last year. I couldn’t stand her politics, but I won’t celebrate her death. She was never as arrogant a scvmbag as Stevens, nor was she a scheming liar like Roberts.

    At least five potential nominees on Trump’s wish list are former Thomas law clerks — Katsas, Muniz, Pacold, Rushing, and Todd. That’s more than any other Justice. Since Thomas has been the most reliable and dedicated Justice in terms of 2A, I think that’s encouraging.

    • Term limits for Federal judges and SCOTUS Justices would require an Amendment to Article III of the Constitution.

      Given the history of Constitutional amendments since the Bill of Rights, I respectfully object.

  32. Green Man. Boy says:
    September 18, 2020 at 21:06
    Amy Comey Barret, ASAP like Monday.

    __It’s Ted Cruz for the position if he wants it, but a black or half-breed Michelle-Obama-type woman would be best politically. No such GOP black woman judge exists though.
    Trump should nominate Justice RBG’s successor next week, and that the Senate should confirm a successor before the election. Cruz argued that Democrats plan to challenge the 2020 election, and having a 4-4 court would “risk a constitutional crisis” given that likelihood.

    Cruz said, “I believe that the president should, next week, nominate a successor to the court. And I think it is critical that the Senate takes up and confirms that successor before Election Day. There’s going to be enormous pressure from the media. There’s going to be enormous pressure from Democrats to delay filling this vacancy.
    Hillary Clinton said, “The Democrats who are in the Senate will have to use every single possible maneuver that is available to them to make it clear that they are not going to permit Mitch McConnell to enact the greatest travesty, a monument to hypocrisy that would arise from him attempting to fill this position. What Cruz said about having a 4-4 court after a contested election… HC is too stupid to take this potential problem into account plus RGB was appointed by Bill Clinton – right?Now if Hillary Clinton could die off too – to finally shut her wapping pie hole wouldn’t that be great.

    What a blessing that RBG is gone. To honor her so called last wish would be crazy, but the Dems are already whining and bawling about it. It’s time to ram a nominee down their throats, get 51 votes and get the win. Ted Cruz they can not stop if he’s the nominee and we know he’s on Trumps short list.

    Plus about all of this is the stock market tanks. Big money sells wanting no part of what’s coming after the election and also this with the RBG replacement. This Monday the market tanks and then there’s potential military conflict with Iran and China’s pay back over the Tic-Toc flap to add to the selling panic. Got a boat load of put contracts right now? You’re good as gold. The QQQ ETF is really going to get hammered this week and it’s not even October yet. If Trump can’t win Florida he’s toast so we may have Aunt Jemimah as our POTUS to cap the stack.

    breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/17/soros-backed-coalition-preparing-for-post-election-day-chaos-were-going-to-fight-like-hell/

  33. enuf says:
    September 18, 2020 at 23:47

    Only you fuckwit shit for brains morons call me a liberal.

    __Imposter enufs are quite common here. So you never can tell what you are.

    Those two people were real patriots, not that crude scum in our White House. They disagreed and agreed, they fought and they argued. And they were great friends for decades. Hell, on opposite ends of the court and they went on vacations together with their spouses. That’s not relativism you addle brained over indoctrinated twit, it is AMERICANISM.

    __crude scum in our White House ??? Aunt Jemimah with Michelle Obama as her VP, that will be so much better – right? RGB was a ACLU lawyer and a radical left wing loon.

    Something you and all of Trumps sycophants populated cult either forgot about or never bothered to learn. Fuckwits like you are enough to make a maggot puke.

    __I knew a guy that often said somebody would ‘gag a maggot’. Trumps sycophants populated cult Fuckwits … ??? Try to keep it in your pants and calm down until chaos breaks out post election; then you’ll fit right in.

    breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/18/blue-checks-vow-violence-if-mcconnell-tries-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg-burn-the-entire-fking-thing-down/

  34. RBG was the most anti-constitutionalist, politically motivated, ideologue I can ever recall sitting on the court.

    I don’t to celebrate her death, but I will celebrate her vacating her position on the court.

  35. Also, calling it now that the nominee is not going to be ACB, but Barbara Logoa. Because nominating a Cuban-American Female to the bench will trigger the lefttards like no other nominee.

  36. This cheit is good now and can only get better/much worse/ as time passes. Best TTAG thread in some time …

    Michael Moore Urges Pelosi to Shut Down Government to Block GOP from Filling Ginsburg’s Seat 30,953 comments

    George Stephanopoulos said, “Let me press you though on what happens. You want people to get out and vote. And even that’s no guarantee that the White House and Senate Republicans won’t try to push through a Supreme Court nomination in a lame-duck session even if Joe Biden wins on November 3rd, even if Democrats win, pick up seats in the House, and maybe even the Senate.

    Pelosi said, “Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver that I’m not about to discuss right now, but >>> 2nd impeachment … to try to stop the new Trump SC nominee is what she has in mind.

    To the chants of “Fill that seat,” Trump told supporters at an event Saturday night in North Carolina that he would nominate a woman as soon as this week.

    “We win an election and those are the consequences,” said Trump, who then seemed to signal that he’d be willing to accept a vote on his nominee during the lame-duck period after the election. “We have a lot of time. We have plenty of time. We’re talking about January 20th” — when the next president is inaugurated.

    • Trump is wrong, the deadline in 3 Jan, when the new Senate gets sworn in, not 20 Jan.

      Also, there is a bunch of shenanegans being proposed about the AZ seat. If McSally loses, the Dems are planning on claiming that it is a “special election” so Kelly has to be seated imeadiately.

  37. Mark H says:
    September 21, 2020 at 14:32

    Trump is wrong, the deadline in 3 Jan, when the new Senate gets sworn in, not 20 Jan.

    __It depends of course, because the GOP may hold the Senate and add a few seats as well. If so, JAN 3 is no deadline and Trump was right – as usual. Dems taking a majority in the Senate is possible but not likely.

    Also, there is a bunch of shenanigans being proposed about the AZ seat. If McSally loses, the Dems are planning on claiming that it is a “special election” so Kelly has to be seated imeadiately.

    __They, like everybody being ‘they’, claim and have always claimed it is and will be a “special election”. But shenanigans, oh yes, and I corrected your spelling of shenanigans – BTW. As for being seated imeadiately, I’m sure you meant immediately, it still won’t be in time so that cancels out Romney’s vote with the Dems, one less AZ Dem to be there to vote, and a few others will be RINO/traitor votes as well including probably Susan Collins. This is why there’s a rush to name the new justice and have a vote asap.

    Sure is a relief to finally have that old RBG bat gone. The lost souls of millions of unborn is her real legacy. There’s a special place in the hot place that’s reserved for the likes of her.

    mark h or Mark H ?

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