Moments ago, the House of Representatives passed HR 38 — the National Reciprocity Act. The bill passed mainly on party lines, with 231 votes in favor and 198 votes against.
HR 38 would ensure that the “full faith and credit” clause of the Constitution applies to concealed carry permits the same way that it currently applies to drivers licenses, marriage licenses, and generally every other legal status of any kind. In other words, if you have a concealed carry permit somewhere in the United States you are good to carry everywhere else where concealed carry is permitted.
Also included in the bill is a provision which would improve the data collected into the NICS database, the tool used to identify people who are prohibited from owning firearms during background checks at gun stores. Inaccurate record collection is one of the reasons why the shooter in Sutherland Springs was able to purchase their firearm.
Anyone reading this and thinks someone at work has your back ask yourself two questions
1. Do you own the company?
2. Do your parents own the company?
If you don’t get one yes then nobody has your back.
Every time I’ve lost a job, 6 months later I realized I was better off.
Back when the fad was to hijack planes to Cuba, I was detained at MHT because I have several metal pieces in my body from various good ideas gone bad.
The lone guard was really proud of himself until I pointed to the aircraft I was renting by the hour and asked if he thought I would hijack myself? While he was trying to figure that out, my sister and I scooted to the plane and left. Afraid the guard got permanent brain damage from my question. Good luck with your current adventure.
This probably won’t pass in the Senate, however, if it does, this is going to be bad…. The NICS fix as written is going to be at the whim of the person in power at the time…
If either (or both) end up in the courts, I’m pretty confident HR 38 would hold up, while HR 4477 (or at least the really bad parts), could get thrown out.
So pretty, yet somehow very effeminate. Ohhh, I see why. 9mm…..
Who loves ya, baby!……
I disagree with mixing the NICS fix in the bill.
I understand the strategy, I just don’t understand the logic.
That ones easy, they mixed the two bills to get them both passed. Totally gets the FUDDs on board cuz they get to say “I supported the Second Amendment AND common sense regulations!” Come re-election time.
Your pompous, self-righteous attitude seems to be the main problem in my view. Your opinion about the restrictive gun laws in New York and elsewhere clearly played a part, consciously or otherwise, in why you failed to adhere to the security restrictions imposed by your job for the safety of the public and your workplace. One could easily conclude from your asinine dribble that you felt the degenerate criminals at Delta who smuggled guns to New York actually did nothing wrong. You are an ignorantly arrogant idiot and frankly I wouldn’t feel safe flying on a Delta plane from an airport where you worked. Good riddance!
Wow! Project much? ????
Oh, I finally understand Cinquex! Being “stupid” or unenlightened is a criminal offense and worthy of losing one’s job and/or going to prison. I don’t know why it took me so long to embrace the idea that “little people” have no right to provide for themselves or be free.
How about we consider firing people or sending them to prison ONLY WHEN THEY HARM SOMEONE.
That can’t be cinquex. LAPD burnt his ass up for boning patty hearst. Must be a poser.
Put up a go fund me. You have supporters out there I’m sure. “Because I said so” laws are just tyranny.
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“BREAKING: National Reciprocity Bill Passes House of Representatives”
And now on to the senate…this should be interesting…
TX_Lawyer is technically correct (the best kind of correct–also the one that seems to matter to the courts interpreting laws). The bill doesn’t say Texas has to recognize Bob from California’s permit the way they recognize a Texas (or one of several other states) permit (which is required for open carry in Texas). It says Texas has to permit Bob to carry concealed, because he has a valid California permit.
Here in Washington, you have to have a WA CPL, or other recognized permit, to have a loaded handgun within reach in a vehicle, concealed or visible. They could argue that somebody with an Arizona permit (Washington doesn’t recognize those) can’t have a loaded handgun in the car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
“New From Indian Creek Design: Modular Chassis For The Ruger American Rifle”
Lipstick on a pig…the ruger American is a complete piece of crap…
It’s in that first part.
“Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof (except as provided in subsection (b)) and subject only to the requirements of this section,” – the preemption of local law pointing to a later exception to preemption. Also known as “why.”
“a person” – who.
“who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm,” – qualification for who #1.
“who is carrying a valid identification document containing a photograph of the person,” – qualification for who #2.
“and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm” – qualification for who #3A.
“or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides,” – qualification for who #3B.
“may possess or carry” – the act who may do.
“a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,” – the object which can be acted upon.
“in any State” – the where the who (subject) can possess or carry (verb) the gun (object)(for the purposes of this discussion, the modifications to the object by adjectives and such will be ignored).
A person who meets the qualifications can possess or carry a gun in any state because the federal government says so. Not because the federal government says all states have to recognize a state’s permit as valid.
I have to admit, I was tempted to respond “yes it does” and just quote the entire bill.
80% Mystery False Flag events, or orchestrated “Deep State” activities…(re: Collapse of the USA, Destroy US Constitutional-Bill of Rights; Especially the 2nd amendment…)
20% Copycat incidents, or mentality deranged persons…Who have now been given a national platform to act out…become famous…and promote their delusions…Kind of like the politicians, and it’s base voters of the DNC…)
.40 and .44 mag.
See how your rep voted!
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll663.xml
Boy, that’s a beauty!
There are no dangerous dogs, only dangerous hunters.
Why do Democrats so despise liberty?
Because they want to rule over the workers/people, thus liberty is not acceptable for the non aristocracy.
That and the idea of the well armed lamb contesting the vote frightens them. That’s the real reason they hate the idea of citizens possessing effective militia arms.
Bummer dude. Hope things work out in your favor.
Here’s a little of what you may expect:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBnF-7HkNE
There isn’t much evil a man can do that’s worse than being a democrat in 2017. In any case, even if true, no one is electing a man in his 30’s who dates teenagers of legal age of consent – they’re electing a man who is just now being suspiciously accused of being that other man 40 some-odd years ago. This is all just political theater because the commies don’t want to be the only pervs in the country, given all their cases of actual (and current) crimes. I’m sure there must be something to the accusations against Moore, but almost certainly a magnitude less than what the accusations assert. The dems have less than zero credibility here, so why anyone cares what they have to say about anything related to sexual misconduct is beyond me. Maybe when they stop defending a violent terrorist cult that follows a self-admitted murdering-highwayman-pedophile’s plagiarized book over their fellow Americans they can get back up on their moral high-horse. I still won’t care, though.
The Puppet Giffords is a Gun totting Brain Dead Coke Whore who lost the profitable Tire Store that her parents handed down to her because of her Coke habit. Crabby puppet master Marcass Smelly was denied a gun sale because he was trying to make a Straw Purchase.
The USS Giffords has a problem that it stops for no reason in the middle of the ocean. Upon investigation they found that the Main computer has issues with memory loss
What I can’t figure out is why these folks can’t see (or admit) that they have no idea whatsoever who or how many people are already carrying concealed, wherever they are. The fact that some places “allow” this or not has never made any particle of difference to the people who actually intend to do harm to others. And that’s very easy to prove.
No, this “fear” is merely the excuse. Control is the only issue, and they already know they can only control the honest “good guys.”
How long are you willing to be controlled, manipulated and criminalized?
You already don’t know you ninny! Concealed means concealed and matter of fact that person has no responsibility to notify your nosy a$$ if they are carrying or not even after you ask just before you start freaking out, blubbering, and pissing your pants because there may be a gun within 5 feet of you.
In anything you do (go through TSA, drive a car, etc.), there is a nonzero probability that you’re going to make a mistake. You can make that probability very small, but you can never make it zero. If you do that thing enough times, eventually the mistake will happen.
Zero tolerance policies fail to take into account this reality, and as a result they treat someone making a simple mistake for the first time the same as a jihadist out to kill everyone. That’s irrational.
Yes, some mistakes get you killed. In those cases additional, redundant controls are needed: checklists, interlocks, two man rule, etc. The rest of the time the rules need to be structured to take into account that we all make mistakes.
For those on here who are boasting about how they never make a mistake…pride goeth before a fall.
Anyone know of a good analysis of the possibility of National Reciprocity getting through the senate?
Delta’s actions are just a symptom – like a frightened child seeking some kind of ‘approval’. The real problem is the thieves and perverts of a rogue government’s TSA. If an agent or ‘supervisor’ (in my case, one named Cota-Robles) wants something of yours, he’ll insist it ‘isn’t allowed on aircraft’ and steal it.
No thanks. Not even interested in considering an H&K at this point.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/09/john-boch/heckler-koch-no-gun-sales-israel/
I’ve been pulled over twice in 50 years.
Most police officers are ok. It’s not a job I want….dealing with the cream de la creme everyday, getting spit at, sworn at, etc. Realizing that management will NOT back you up.
When I get back from the range after everything is tucked away I go back to my car and look everywhere for? An unexpended round or a shell casing. I don’t want any cop giving me s&*t for that if I”m pulled over or in a car accident.
Just a little paranoid. I carry a full size now and the Kahr 9MM is so small I don’t realize I have it sometimes.
If you want to play operator, go fast. But before and after, GO SLOW AND THINK. No such thing as being in a rush with guns and ammo except in a gunfight. That’s what sneakers are for.
Don’t forget to turn in those Pop-Tarts too, lest some pre-schooler nibble one into some scary firearm shape.
(At least here, we might also make a dent in the excess amounts of sugar many kids eat these days!)
Happy Motoring, Mark
Yeah, I remember reading last year about a Kindergarten kid or a 1st grader in school and they were looking at the clouds and the teacher wanted them to pick out objects in the clouds. The child looked up and said, “I see a gun.” Well, needless to say that they suspended the child for 3 or 5 days, something like that. Let me tell you, if they would have attempted that crap with my kid, I would have been at that school and knee deep down their throats. These teachers act like they’re politicians.
Horrible what happened to his wife, the attacker was a loon so many who have an agenda….However, why punish the good when a few wreak havoc. According to GIFFORD logic (or the institute for Gosh I am For F*@king the Ordinary, the Respected and the Decent folks)
We are not to punish all muslims because several hundred thousands muslim terrorists are killing and terrorizing millions around the world, hello Kelly… We are not to shut down funding of Planned Parenthood although they are killing babies and selling body parts, hello Kelly…..We are not to agreesively pursue solutions to black on black crime (esp Chicago and Baltimore) if we try to help, Whites would be called racists, hello Kelly… We are to believe that all men are naturally Mass Shooters because most of the shooters were male, and that White Men are real problem, this country is sick!
Theres an “nuclear” option as limited the speaking time against filibuster right ?
Used it and be happy !
Unlicensed public transport and non steril airport is an dangerous felony trap in colorado …….
The charge assist “wings” are not intended for one handed racking. I found this out from HK after a call. You can try it but be prepared to go searching for them after they fly off.
Conceal sized pistols automatically give up magazine capacity, but 10 rounds? In 9mm?
I handled one in my local shop and immediately fell in love…but. The standard for this size conceal pistol is 12. If you’re CCW-ing a double stack capacity handgun, you are deliberately choosing a higher round count…in hand…not in a spare mag in your pocket. Why would anyone buy a pistol this size, even with HK’s rep for quality, with an immediate penalty of 2 rounds?
Well …. at least all our questions about Las Vegas have been answered ! /s
Like Nevada , I’m sure New Mexico will now feel the need to ” Do Something ” to restrict Freedoms.
Anti – gun California poison is spilling over it’s borders.
It all comes down to if the Democrats decide to filibuster this. If the Democrats decide this isn’t worth a filibuster I’d say it passes easily. If the Dems decide its worth filibustering this, then I do not see any way this gets to 60 votes.
Seems like some kind of love triangle or revenge against bullies’.
Finally, a photo with an extra magazine…it seems so many carry of pocketful of garbage, and yet fail to carry a spare magazine, IF for no other reason than having a mag failure, and yes, it does happen…