According to WUSA‘s law enforcement sources, Department of Homeland Security cop and domestic abuser turned spree killer Eulalio Tordil recently purchased two .40 caliber handguns from a gun dealer. The firearms match ballistics at all three Maryland crime scenes. “If Tordil purchased them in the last month and half the question is how?” WUSA ponders. “Under federal law it is illegal for someone with a domestic violence restraining/protective order to buy a gun.” Yeah, how’d that happen? Did he lie on his ATF form 4473? Did the gun control paradise known as “the Free State” forget to send Tordil’s name to the FBI for inclusion on their database? Answer if and when we get them.
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Maybe it should also be impossible for someone with a restraining order to be a cop?
That’s an excellent idea.
Emotional self control is very important for fair & safe law enforcement.
He was stripped of his badge and issued gun and assigned to desk duty.
It’s a good thing he was stripped of his issued gun, since he has no means of acquiring one for personal use. Oh, wait…
Department procedures are, weapons surrendered upon charges. Loss of law enforcement certification upon conviction. That is pretty standard across the country. Just thought you might want to know.
This guy was a “Protective Services Officer” which may mean he was a contracted person from some security agency working as a security officer at a Federal Building. Not really a Federal Agent or a Federal Investigator. Just one of many guys hired who want to look and feel like a cop and gets one of these jobs.
I once saw a repeat offender peeping tom wearing a security Officers uniform at a County Fair. These agencies will hire just about anyone.
Interesting though. Can’t wait to hear who screwed up on the background check on this guy.
I have a feeling it was NOT the Gun Dealer, unless this guy pulled some sort of a scam on the dealer using his Federal ID cards and misrepresented himself. 99% of gun dealers wouldn’t knowingly sell to an unauthorized person. There are already enough authorized people who want to buy guns without selling to someone they shouldn’t.
Does Maryland have an exemption on the NICS check for current LE?
Well, even if they do, his credentials/badge were supposedly taken a while back (along with his guns), that shouldn’t help him. Could it be that NICS is not infallible? We need that backup law against shooting people, I tell you! I bet this coverage is going to fade, just as soon as the grabber crowd discovers how totally it exposes their arguments as fraud.
Or, he did business with the store previously, and didn’t bother to check when he came in…
I guarantee you he flashed his badge and credentials and got the background check waived.
I am sure he had another badge stashed away. The actual badge is fairly easy to order online. Since every police department has their own identification, it would be difficult for anyone to determine what is real and what is not. Since he was still under investigation, just because he lost the right to carry a badge doesn’t mean he did not still have identification as an employee of a police department.
Doubt it.
Not a bad guess, but that’s not how it works in MD. I’ve seen plenty of cops waiting their 8 days for a firearm around here.
Not so much as it threatens their ideologies. They have defense mechanisms (psychologically) in place distorting their reality. This directly goes against “only cops and military need guns” or “police will protect us” – after all, cops and military have years of training, are excellent shots, and don’t do bad things, right?
Yeah, I’m still waiting on my military carve-out. Won’t happen.
No, it’s going to fade because it violates the official narrative in two huge ways: 1) it was a sworn federal law enforcement officer who committed the crimes, and everyone knows that is unpossible; and 2) it was someone other than a white guy who committed the crime, so nothing can be said about it without someone screaming “RACIST BIGOT” about the comment.
No, this story will be buried and will garner zero long-term attention.
This is not the spree killer they are looking for… he has “federal” and “cop” in his job title and he was the wrong color. “Nothing to see here. Move along people.”
What exactly is the point of restraining orders?
I imagine they were cooked up by some artificial “women’s rights” astroturf group and championed by “tough on crime” politicians to be born into existence to accomplish ___________?
They give the cops something actionable to arrest the guy on. That’s the only benefit to it, I can see.
Bingo. Prior to the advent of restraining orders, police would often do nothing, saying that it was “a civil matter,” and that they had no authority to arrest. Many a woman was killed because of such policies. Now, if there is a restraining order, the police have no excuse not to interfere–unless it is one of their own. this, combined with stronger domestic violence laws, as lead to increasing prosecutions of domestic violence–at least where the victimized spouse is willing to press charges. Sadly, many victims, particularly women, are very reluctant to pursue charges, usually with the excuse that “It was all my fault” (a common refrain of abused women, who are always blamed by their husbands when things are not to his satisfaction, to the point where they come to believe it).
My bride asked that almost instantly. To me, the only correct answer is that if the order forbids him coming within XXX feet of her or whatever, then when he shows up on her front porch she can shoot him dead with no further questions. Violating that court order can only mean one thing, he is there to kill her. She doesn’t have a gun? Too bad, the order is useless, and the judge and her lawyer should have pointed that out.
Please don’t anyone take Larry’s advice as legally kosher.
In Texas, it might be kosher.
I’m just glad that this guy sucked at shooting. Thoughts and prayers with the families of those affected by this tragedy.
He killed three people and wounded three others. Sounds like good shooting to me. If he really sucked, as you say, there wouldn’t be three dead.
Maybe now the politicians will finally pass that law that makes killing people illegal!
I don’t know… but centerfiresystems is selling korean glock mags for like $4.99 for the 15 rounders and $9.95 for the 33. I bought a few. I’ll let you guys know how they perform. I figured at that price, if they suck, I can shoot at them with my rifle for fun – no big loss.
But but but it’s agin’ the law to lie on yer form! Pathetic .gov…
I have a feeling this will just bring more red tape to the gun buying process. Don’t let any tragedy go to waste.
More than likely the gun shop will somehow be blamed for this and have to close it’s doors…and maybe a court date for the shop owner. Path of least resistance…it’s easier to attack the dealer than to blame the system.
Shut your mouth! Don’t give ’em any ideas.
Two .40 cal Glocks… How 2000’s.
Maryland Spree Killer Bought 2 .40 Cal GLOCKs
Ridiculous. Everybody at TTAG knows that the .40S&W is a dead caliber.
Trying to find those obsolete .40s, man, who’s knob did he have to polish to find one of those?
” “If Tordil purchased them in the last month…”
So, we have no idea if he did? Seems more likely he just didn’t hand all his guns in.
“Law enforcement sources tell WUSA, Tordil recently bought two .40 caliber handguns – and they matches ballistics”
If nothing. They did a *ballistics* test, so that match.
One wonders if they looked at the caliber marking on the handgun barrel and then measured the round with calipers, is what they mean by “matched” (scare quotes).
One wonders indeed.
By the time the MSM is done spinning this, the gun dealer will be blamed for the shooters actions and his ability to circumvent the law. Ultimately, the truth will become a victim of Mr. Tordil as well.
So he presumably broke Federal law by purchasing firearms after being served with a protective order, took those illegal firearms to a Gun Free Zone to shoot his wife and a bystander, and then went on a John Muhammad-like shooting spree to cover up the crime in the May Issue state of Maryland.
Clearly more gun laws are in order!
/sarc
Questions like this only help perpetuate the gun grabbers’ cause. We need to stop worrying about how or where someone got a gun. Instead, let’s concentrate on the crime(s) the person committed, and how justice needs to be done.
Back in the Old West, stealing horses was a hanging crime. A person caught in the act was hung from the nearest tree. No one asked how or why the thief had access to the horses. Or any weapons used in the act. No one asked if the horse thief had a bad childhood. The only thing important was whether the person committed the crime. If he did, it was dealt with accordingly
The shooter in the current case committed very serious crimes, and if convicted should be punished accordingly. How he got his guns doesn’t really matter.
My understanding was that he was a Feeb so wouldn’t the responsibility to report him to NICs fall on DHS? Maryland isn’t on my favorite states list but let’s point the finger where it belongs.
You all do know a lot of LEOs including Feds believe in and fight for the 2nd right?
Maybe, but many aren’t: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/us/as-states-expand-gun-rights-police-join-opposition.html?partner=IFTTT&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/6Q5X6FVOZP
What? That article quotes what, two, three people? And that qualifies as “but many aren’t”?
How about we look at actual police polling data:
https://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6183787-PoliceOnes-Gun-Control-Survey-11-key-lessons-from-officers-perspectives/
From the conclusion:
“Quite clearly, the majority of officers polled oppose the theories brought forth by gun-control advocates who claim that proposed restrictions on weapon capabilities and production would reduce crime.
In fact, many officers responding to this survey seem to feel that those controls will negatively affect their ability to fight violent criminals.”
They polled over 15,000 police officers. The day an a few jackoffs quoted in the NYT carry more weight than a poll of over 15,000 officers on this issue, I’ll eat my hat.
Indiana State Police Chiefs are always anti-gun. Rank and file unknown are supposedly as well.
God damn LE enjoy too many legal exemptions, courtesy’s and carve outs. They still rape, kill, lie assault as much or more than the average person does and just because they have a badge, doesn’t mean jack squat to me.
One word for all of that: bribery. They’re being bribed to shut up and keep doing the bidding of would-be totalitarians. Eliminate the special treatment, and they’d squawk for sure.
NICS doesn’t work. It is a half thought out system born of compromise. Ultimately, no background check is really effective at keeping the guns out of the hands of those who are prohibited from having them, so why do we have them at all?
In MD there is a 7 day waiting period for all handguns. The idea is that someone like this guy would ‘cool down’ and not run out and shoot someone that day. Love it when gun laws work.
Maryland is super special. Not only does a purchaser get run through NICS during those seven days but through another 15 or 16 databases.
From: http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/RegulatedFirearmPurchases.aspx
“During the 7-day waiting period, the Department of the Maryland State Police checks a series of databases to include the Criminal Justice Information System, Criminal History Indexes, District Courts, Parole and Probation, Motor Vehicle Administration, Juvenile Justice System, and the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. The Department of State Police also causes a check to be made through the FBI’s National Instant Check System. The Department then notifies the dealer whether or not the person is prohibited from possessing a firearm.”
I see a lot of people saying that the gun store probably waived the NICS. That is most likely not the case. At the very least, he would need department letterhead from his superiors. At our shop, all LEOs full out the 4473. If it’s a department purchase, it’s usually arranged in advance, we get letterhead, a purchase order and federal tax ID. And they always send at least two officers to pick them up.
This is why LEOs never need background checks as they are already so vetted.
Wrong
There is no Leo exemption
But, I thought 40 was dead. Sarc/ But seriously, my prayers and condolences to the families.
Good thing to see another crime stopped by the commonsense gun control measure, NICS caught another prohibite……..oh wait, oops. Yet again, commonsense and gun control is bull sheyt, mutually exclusive terms.
We need “the administration” to enforce the current gun laws with the same vehemence the IRS went after conservative non-profits.
Sad for the family of the victim.
WHY DO YOU PUBLISH CRAP LIKE THIS HEADLINE AND STORY. You do the same anti gun sensationalism as the News media. Did you even read he story you referenced?
Story says Judge ordered him to turn in his guns. No mention if he did other hen his duty gun being pulled.
LE says they have not recovered the crime weapon(s) but further says they have ballistic match. How the hell do you match without he gun(s). Didn’t MDshut down its fired case collection program a few months ago as a usless waste of money.
There is nothing in the article that states or confirm he bought one or two guns during he restraint period. What was the source of the gun(s)? Not a damn thing listed but here we go jumping on the illegal gun sale, failed backgound check media hype. YOU know better then that but had to go with if it bleeds it leads mentality followed by the impulsive background checks don’t work agenda. Crap journalism!
It’s Maryland. Ordinary citizens can’t have guns. Must ask permission first. Which can take months. Can’t carry a gun, may issue and they hardly ever do.
This guy was a “Protective Services Officer” which may mean he was a contracted person from some security agency working as a security officer at a Federal Building. Not really a Federal Agent or a Federal Investigator. Just one of many guys hired who want to look and feel like a cop and gets one of these jobs.
I once saw a repeat offender peeping tom wearing a security Officers uniform at a County Fair. These agencies will hire just about anyone.
Interesting though. Can’t wait to hear who screwed up on the background check on this guy.
I have a feeling it was NOT the Gun Dealer, unless this guy pulled some sort of a scam on the dealer using his Federal ID cards and misrepresented himself. 99% of gun dealers wouldn’t knowingly sell to an unauthorized person. There are already enough authorized people who want to buy guns without selling to someone they shouldn’t.