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(courtesy Caifornians Oppose Gun Rsestrictions Facebook page)

“I work at a gun shop,” a member of Californians Opposing Gun Restrictions posted on the gun rights group’s Facebook page. “So I just want to inform the public that as of 430 PM, California ran over 4000 background checks for gun purchases, and most purchases were long guns (AR-15) and most were for multiple long guns. It was an average of 6500 guns purchased TODAY alone, at 430 PM.” To paraphrase Will Smith in MIB II, we’re in the midst of the last great gun sales surge you’ll ever see. Until the next one. [h/t DrVino]

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    • Not to be a cynic, but unless Californians are ready to start the next civil war, all the government has to do is very publicly and brutally bust a handful of people, and then most other people will then comply.

        • Lmao! A revolution is more like it. people need to educate themselves. Smh. And if it should come to that I WILL fight!

      • The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides, “[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly …


      • Fifth Amendment
        The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
        No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

      • Sixth Amendment
        The Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
        In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

      • Amendment XIV

        Section 1.

        All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

        • If you will recall, it took only two men with rifles shut down half of the east coast, including Washington DC a few years ago.

      • Lmao x 10,000!!! I can expect a LAIM ASS RESPONSE LIKE THAT FROM ANYONE WHO HAS A CALL SIGN “tex300BLK”!………. so other than naming your call sign after and eat up with the dumbass retard cartridge what do you expect Americans to do Rollover and die??? I SURE AS HELL HOPE YOUR NOT A TEXAN! Or we have some serious problems here in the LAST FREE STATE IN THE UNION!!! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!

        • Free is a relative term.

          Last? Freest? Hardly. But Texas is a place where individual liberty still holds sway. My home.

      • True, but they risk sparking a civil war in a state that has many retired veterans both young and old. They just might be that stupid I hope so. I’m getting sick of the issue being up for question. It’s about time to settle this shit and California is as good a place to start as any.

      • There is a armed revolution coming. It’s going to look like the French Revolution not the American Revolution. A majority of Americans are tired of government overreach. My hope is redress at the ballot box. However I think the fix is in. With the arrogance of this administration he may not leave office. I have visions of the 60’s on steroids .

        People are angry, not just the Americans.

      • I don’t think so. When they started the magazine laws, the LAPD along with other law groups told the Gov that they would not perused any confiscations and that they would only adhere to those folks that were arrested of a crime and at that time were in non-compliance. In other words, you have a new law that no one wants to enforce once again a useless piece of paper!

    • You want to beat gun control? Okay, fine, somebody in the gun industry publish a small batch recipe for smokeless powder. And commercial size primers. And drawing dies for cartridge cases.

      And plans for a full auto select-fire trigger group for both AR’s and AK’s.

      And full data package on the AR18 including a cheap to make cut rifling machine.

      You see, the only really effective form of gun control is the barrier of entry to manufacture. They can control corporate manufacturers, they can’t control private builders.

      And then we all have to do our part by putting it out over bittorrent and the dark web and then we have to actually start building this stuff in single car garages everywhere.

      And then when they come to stop us we shoot them. Then we go to the capitols and shoot the politicians that ordered it.

      That’s how you beat gun control. Anything less is a delaying action that you are destined to lose.

      • I’m working on the data package for the AR18, but I still need one to reverse-engineer for parts compatibility. I have every other piece of the package. When I’m done you’ll be able to cut up an old car and make it into and AR18 inspired rifle.

        I’m not a engineer by training or a chemist nor a tool and die maker, just someone that isn’t afraid of tools. For the ammo stuff I’m completely out of my depth. So if anyone can do that part we can meet in the middle.

      • The gun industry doesn’t make smokeless from base ingredients easily available and realistically unbannable for sale to civilians.

        What would be really nice, is of someone with a good knack for chemistry, could come up with a way to produce it reliably from household ingredients too common to realistically ban.

        But even absent gun access, the limitations on getting rid of oppressors, is really just in the oppresseds’ heads. One can always obtain firearms and ammunition by taking it from necessarily armed oppressors. Who inevitably can, as they must in order to do their “duty”, be drawn close enough to render them and/or theirs susceptible to incapacitation by simpler means. Then you have their guns, and can go from there.

        The overriding rule in totalitarian dystopias, is that nice guys finish last. Hence the focus, in all such societies, on those who are the oppressors’ point men “only doing their jobs,” and hence not “deserving” of being subjected to what it would take to bring them down. Once that unfortunate headfake is seen through and set aside, pretty much even the most severely oppressed of populations, are ready to celebrate their own Mogadishu moment.

        • Guncotton. Look it up. All you need is a cooling aparatus, nitric acid, concentrate sulfuric acid and cotton. Denim works great as a source of large quantities of cotton. It’s also called nitrocellulose and is a key component of many modern smokeless powders. There’s also white powder, nitro glycerine and other propellants that can be made in a garage. The reason people don’t do it today other than the legalities of the matter is that these are very high energy materials and small mistakes or environmental issues can be catastrophic. If there’s already a catastrophe in play, well then, it would seem like there’s not such a high barrier to entry since desirability will be extremely high and availability will be extremely low. I personally look to Mexico to solve our problem. They can smuggle anything.

        • OR……
          You could just wait some gubmint idiot to leave his firearm laying around in the bathroom, or just swipe it out of their patrol car when they leave their windows down when they go in to get something in the store.

      • Hello, fellow citizen, I completely agree with you. Please post your address and working hours so that we can discuss anti-government actions. I am a friend, not a federal agent. You can trust me.

    • Breaking records on comments should not include 400 comments from 3 commentators . I spent 2 entertaining hours reading all these comments and the back and forth between Excedrine , 2Asux and MrWoodcock was delightful to say the least , wow !
      As to the content of the story .
      I advise all 2nd amendment Californians to begin now in earnest to make plans to leave . You are severely outnumbered by whackos and droids . If you love freedom and hard work and still want America to be what it once was , ( great ) come on out to WV .

    • Do it! Still close enough to see the family, and far enough to be able to afford to live and enjoy freedom.

        • Oh, good. A welcome wagon. I’m not impressed by titles or position. If Harry and I cross paths I will tell him why he’s a failure as a representative of the people.

          And I will vote for his replacement.

        • Your friend Harry who willfully lies about having machine guns delivered to your door from the internet. Cool.

        • @ 2Asux — Neither Harry Reid nor any of his DemoKKKrat cronies are “progressive,” according to any definition of the word anywhere.

        • Then you will be on the front line first?

          Usually people like you only expect the govt to act out your violent fantasies.

        • Do you think I would not be satisfied with gun owners peacefully complying with reasonable restrictions on ownership (Heller, BTW)?

          I have no wish or wants that gun owners should be forcefully relieved of their firearms, unless there becomes absolutely no other way to gain cooperation, unless gun owners engage in violence against those of us who wish to live without fearing everyone we meet is carrying a gun that might be dropped, misused, or wielded criminally.

          Because any attempt at absolute confiscation is likely to result in worse damage than can be justified, I think only the imminent release of civil war for other reasons would justify forceful confiscation. Then, yes, I would rely on agents of government to act in my behalf.

          BTW: I do not need to want an action in order to justify issuing a warning of what certain actions by gun owners might spawn.

        • Califórnia has been a lost cause for a long time, but it’s also been the absolute refutation of “nobody’s coming for your guns” and “there is no slippery slope.” There is absolutely no room for compromise, because they absolutely want to take everything and leave you with nothing.

          If significant numbers of gun owners leave and move to places such as Nevada, then scum like Harry Reid are gone. We certainly could use them up in the Northwest. Washington’s initiative system is, at the moment, dominated by Seattle. That means it’s essentially a unicameral legislature it can use to foist policy on the rest of the state. It will continue to remake the state in its image until it’s just one big Seattle. Unless and until the initiative system is scrapped, the only hope is that enough people move into the rest of the state to counterbalance Seattle.

        • You do realize we have progressives who are gun owners for hunting and even self-defense? They are much more liberal on all other social matters. However, those people, if they felt safe because guns were under control in their locality, would surrender self-defense guns. Maybe even hunting guns if the state offered no real opportunities to hunt. Turning a Red State Blue for all but guns would be an enormous and satisfying victory. Eventually, the guns would go also. Because if the majority voted to end gun ownership, or even just add more restrictions, the gun-owning progressives would go along.

        • If one day your beloved “government agents” actually did try to come after the guns, you do realize they would have zero chance at success, despite the “capabilities” of the US armed forces…right? Just ask any Iraq, Vietnam, or Afghan vet.

        • We’ve been down this road many times.

          None of the actions you listed involved a modern, well trained, well-equipped army willing and allowed to do everything and anything necessary to bring about a desired result. The only example germane and useful is the US Civil War.

          Both sides had mostly equivalent firepower types, both sides had relatively modern armies. Both sides were willing to inflict enormous casualties to prove a point. Both sides were made up of people inside a single grand boundary. The winning side was more willing and capable of inflicting and absorbing carnage than the other. Do you wonder if a national army would destroy its own population? When was the last piece of legislation passed by the Confederate States of America?

          The War Between The States was your second revolution. Your last chance at using force of arms to discipline a national government. Grant won because he did not care how many Confederates he needed to kill, not thought about preserving the physical infrastructure of the entire Southern half of the country. His mission was to defeat and destroy the Confederacy, by any means necessary.

          In the Civil War, you have an example of how a formal, trained, armed rebellion would proceed. In the last year of that war, you have an example of how a rebellion sustained by a rag tag bunch of disorganized volunteers fared against a determined and powerful national army.

          Do not eat your own cows. Armed resistance is for video games.

        • You r analysis of the reasons for the defeat of the south in the Civil War is overgeneralized and indefensible by the “facts on the ground.” The north had a population much larger than the south, and had the majority of the manufacturing capacity. Lincoln’s Anaconda Plan was intended to, and ultimately did deprive the south of an ability to market its mostly agricultural products to foreign markets, thus causing a severe cash shortage. Without enough men, without the ability to replace munitions and cannon lost in battle, with a northern attack on the basic infrastructure of the southern railways ad water transportation systems, the south had no realistic chance of prevailing. Lincoln was right: the north could not win by winning individual battles, it has to crush the Confederate Army. But to suggest that the south lost the war because of a loss of will is unsupported by any histories of which I am aware.

          Moreover, the result of the Civil War is no indicator of what might happen in a subsequent revolution. The maps of the two sides (pro and anti gun) are not generally subscribed by the Mason-Dixon line, the means of production are widely scattered, and the numbers are different. The American Revolution was won by a relatively small minority–maybe 17% of the overall population–that was overmatched by a superior British force. However, there was not center to the revolution, no place that could be taken that would result in a British victory. It was an insurgency, and historically, insurgents can defeat a greater force.
          So what about today? There are easily 50 million gun owners in America, and if only 17% participated in a revolution (8.5 million) against a federal government, they would easily outnumber the 750,000 man armed forces, the vast majority of whom are not fighting troops but support troops. Let’s add to that the fact that the U.S. Armed Forces have never won an insurgency war.

        • You made my point about the Civil War. A modern, committed, driven army willing to do whatever it took defeated another organized army in a number of ways. In the original list, you presented situations where the US was not willing to annihilate the enemy, but only allowed to make suggestions.

          You presume facts about the character of gun owners not in evidence. When it is all said and done, you likely have less than 5% of gun owners who would “into the breach” to retain their guns. And then only if victory was assured. You vastly underestimate the natural desire of populations to not risk their lives and their families in a shooting war. The people you hope are willing to rebel against government are dead a hundred and fifty years ago. The US, like the West at large is too self-satisfied, too complacent to really pose any sort of threat to the combined forces of government. Nothing to be feared.

          Politics is the game, not revolution. But if you can encourage more of your gun friends to focus on rebellion, and ignore politics, we thank you.

        • Go ahead, ignore the real point. In the Civil War, it was army against army. An insurgency is another ball of wax, all the more difficult when the the government forces are vastly outnumbered and have no one to fight. Insurgencies are almost impossible to fight, and the powerful army almost always loses. Look in the news–how many insurgencies are active around the world right now, and how many have been going on for more than a decade? I am not promoting revolution, I am just pointing out the practical realities of the situation should it occur. There is no army in the world today that could successfully invade and occupy the United States, and, I submit, that includes the U.S. Army.

        • If you think insurgencies (the Confederacy was a very large insurgency) can’t be put down by organized armies, have a look at the Phillipines of late 1890s, and the Malaysian insurgency ended by the British in the late ’50s. Or even the Muslim rebellion against the British in India around 1750. Or maybe my favorite, Carthage. When was the last time you got a post card or email from the nation of Carthage?