“And then there’s the revelation that the supervisor of the [Gun Trace Task Force] instructed officers to carry a toy gun just in case they found themselves ‘in a jam’ and needed to plant one. When one of the officers, Marcus Taylor, was arrested, officials couldn’t figure out why he had a toy gun in his glove compartment.” – Baltimore Cops Kept Toy Guns to Plant Just in Case They Shot an Unarmed Person [via theroot.com]
Baltimore Gun Trace Task Force – As Corrupt as the Day Is Long: IMI Systems Quote of the Day
Robert Farago
JP’s is awesome in everyway except price. there is NO reason for it to cost that much. i’ve been waiting for this.
my animosity on this is, law enforcement enforcing unconstitutional laws, ” just doing my job”, The second amendment declares I have the right to bare arms, but yet here is LEO restricting my Constitutionial rights making a criminal out of me. No police officer would tell their superiors, “No” if ordered to compensate a legally owned firearm. Theyd take it, and let the chips fall where they may. Dispute this and reveal another truth, ” cops lie.”
Looks like it gets around the cost thing by removing the variable buffer weights… Given changing buffer weight is not something most would need … Given most of us run a rifle buffer with rifle gas systems and so on… and rarely if ever change the upper to something radically different… They have paired down the solution to answer the question not all the possible answers
There’s a much cheaper cure for the SPROING, and that’s simply a good quality spring.
I use the chrome silicon ones that Damage Industries sells (I’m certain that other places carry an equivalent) at about 7-8 dollars a pop on sale and they eliminate 90% or more of the noise by my guesstimation.
Seriously a flamethrower? While not worth writing a bill over, these are not high on the good idea scale.
Just so long as the officers make it home safe at night – that’s the important thing.
Not by planting a drop gun however. That is trying to make a bad shoot look legal.
What did you expect. Here in Florida in place of toy guns police in questionable shootings are trying to invoke the stand your ground law. Here is just one of the cases where they are trying to have the case against them thrown out.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officer-files-defense-claim-shooting-death-52450272
This is just another inevitable result of authoritarianism. Electing “good” people won’t fix this, because they will be in the same position – tasked with committing violence against peaceful people while having the “authority” to kill and the opportunity to avoid the consequences.
The “corruption” is spread throughout every person and institution controlled by the non-voluntary government. That control is the whole reason for the existence of such governments, and central to individuals and corporations wanting to use that government to control others themselves.
The desire/lust/compulsion to control the lives and property of others is the ROOT of all evil; all corruption, all aggression and theft. Playing musical chairs with the government employees won’t ever change that.
Lately I have had to commute part time to Baltimore since Mid December. Overall, the town is not as bad reports seem. The Police do seem in Furguson Effect mode however.
Many nights, I could drive for hours & rarely find any on patrol in many areas. No, scratch that. The University of Baltimore cops actually seem busy. Are they corrupt? Every department has some level of it. The drop gun thing is kind of old school bad cop stuff. I’ll keep it in mind next car stop…..
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There oughta be a law! A federal law because we need to blanket the country with bad laws! Or they can just let people be adults and decide how best to store their firearms, and deal with the consequences (if any) of their storage method.
Just one more law! One more law will solve the problem….even if it doesn’t directly address the cause. People!
Hollywood has clearly shown that even the most mild mannered among us will give in to their savage nature if they possess a real flamethrower…..
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVvEsy396dA&w=560&h=315%5D
And Hollywood would never lie to us….would they?
Sorry forgot to embed the video
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVvEsy396dA&w=560&h=315%5D
A throw down toy gun is So So Stupid! A cop carried back up knife that’s thrown down is so much easier to do and easier to explain away with plausible deniability if cop gets caught with it. And a throw down knife is still deadly force that backfills and justifies the shooting.
Dirty cop should go to jail if for nothing else criminal stupidity.
Who was it, that said something about sacrificing liberty for temporary security, not deserving either?
I guess it is some sort of testimony to the personal character of Baltimore Police Officers that individuals would choose to follow this kind of directive instead of refusing. So, a Black Cop shoots a Black suspect dead, discovers the suspect was unarmed and plants a toy gun on the him to “justify” the killing…oh, the dark, dark irony!
This report makes me despair that a large enough percentage of the American population has become so morally bankrupt that there is no rational way to save the American Constitutional Republic. “Ja wohl! Ich werde gehorchen, mein Demokratenführer !!”
Were there any such laws when I was young (1960-1970’s)? Were there any school shootings? Did I take my rifle to High School for Team practice twice a week in winter, on the bus, in NY? What we need to do as a society is deal with the underlying causes. Liberal zero tolerance policies are producing kids with no real world coping skills. More kids are being raised in single parent households. Big Pharma is flooding the streets with SSRI’s and Opioids. This is a sociological issue, not an access to firearms issue. But those are tough issues to deal with and Big Pharma lobbies at 100 fold the NRA so no politicians are going to kill the cash cow.
I’m suddenly reminded of this clip from The Wire.
(Profanity ahoy, for those at work).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXObPxVmO0
Hmmm…my son lives a scant 10miles drom this mess. He tells me it’s no big deal…like Chiraq????
I shouldn’t be surprised that a “Millennial” is so Constitutionally and historically ignorant. She most likely attended a Government indoctrination Center AKA Public Schools where our history and Founding Fathers were trashed. On the subject of the right to keep and bear arms, she really needs to get educated. Here’s a great primer on the subject: http://krisannehall.com/lesson-gun-control-2/
Your fired!
It usually always comes down to quality vs quantity.
Unfortunately the gov’t will NEVER go with quality, and the higher (but manageable) costs that come with it.
No nfa meaning no sbr/sbs? Or does that include my suppressors as well?
Current set up:
1. Tavor x95 (suppressor as allowed) with surefire light and red/ir laser
2. P226 with 9mm suppressor (again, as allowed) and surefire light
3. Wife’s hk45 with another suppressor and another surefire light
No one in my house is losing hearing over a criminal.
M&P9 2.0 with Federal 124gr HSTs, XS big dots, and either a SureFire or a Streamlight underneath.
AR with MBUS, red dot, 1K lumen light, and sling. Preferably lightweight (sub-6.5 pounds with no ammo/accessories). Barnes VOR-TX is fine for my needs. I like clear Lancer mags. It should not have a comp or muzzle brake.
Shotguns are a no-go in HD for me, and I don’t need more than one rifle and one pistol at a time.
And I’m just sitting here with my CZ P-09 that I can’t get to malfunction no matter what I do…
Besides, don’t we have negligence laws already?
Having fired a shockwave as well as a regular shotgun with a folded stock, I have to say that, even if you’re going to fire it as intended, a stabilizing brace is definitely called for with these even more than with ARs and AKs, for sure. They are very difficult to be precise with.
The problem with the contract was that the military never finished the testing and just went with the cheaper bid(not modularity like some have claimed.) Now we are seeing the results. I don’t even like Glocks that much but this should be grounds for a lawsuit.
Right within about 4 inches of my right hand, is Smith 67 with Underwood 125 gr. +P Gold Dots. If I move my hand a few more inches, a 590A1 alternating 00 Buck and #4 shot. As I make my way around the bed to the door, I can grab a loaded CW380(2), CT9, and LCRX 3″ .38. In the meantime my wife is reaching for a Mossberg 464 Brush Gun 30-30 on her side. I can grab all kinds of stuff if I have to head downstairs. That is what is ideal for me, because that is what it is going to be.
close at hand, on top of my safe, or I don’t “dump”. yes, I’ve slept thru the entire night with either a .45 or 9mm holstered, knives, keys, wallet ect still on my person.
I’m like Chuck Norris, I keep a pillow under my gun….
I have been through headaches with the pathetic company made my cobra 380 acp, the company is a total failure. Being as there are no laws to protect people from defective manufactured handguns, I think it’s time for the worthless company cobra industries of utah. To be banned from manufacturing & selling handguns, as the part that came out of my cobra 380 acp diamaged the lens in my glasses. This pathetic company won’t answer or return my calls & ignored my emails, they are a 5 star failure. I’m just putting this on here to alert people about this company before 1 of their handguns severly injures or kills some innocent person.
Remember, Glock NEVER had a recall. They were just “UPGRADES”!
Apparently Skynet has become aware, and has activated all the guns in this neighborhood. Hopefully all the guns elsewhere are still inactive, getting fat, sitting on the couch, watching reruns of Married with Children.
“I personally would not want oral sodomy from any woman who doesn’t support gun rights” said NO MAN EVER.
Three gold plated, pearl handled, diamond encrusted Desert Eagles chambered in .50 AE.
Silver jacketed 300 gr Hornaday XTP, treated with holy water and pigs blood, handloaded into steel casings made from melted down helmets and rifles taken from dead soldiers in the Iraq-iran war.
Easiest decision of my life.
At the risk of alienating some police officers and their supporters, the “Black Lives Matter” movement DOES have a point, being “the canary in the coal mine”, although some of the examples of police shootings that they promote as “unjustified” actually were “justifiable”.
Blacks and Whites have totally different attitudes toward police…Blacks look at police as “occupiers” and “oppressors” while Whites look at police as “protectors”, despite the fact that MORE Whites are unjustifiably murdered by police than Blacks. Add to the fact, that innocent Blacks ARE rousted by police with much greater frequency, utilizing “stop and frisk” procedures, which are allowed in many jurisdictions; one can easily see that their resentment is justified.
The problem arises when a “critical mass” of citizens starts to act against what they see as police brutality. It will not help the situation when “good” police officers are attacked, as those who are aggrieved will see only the uniform, and not the police officer wearing it.
“Blowback” is something that ALL police departments should be concerned about as it will affect ALL of their police officers, as well as all of us citizens, not just the “bad apples”.
TRUST of the community toward police officers must be EARNED, not demanded, as some police departments expect. Demanding instant and immediate “compliance” based on fear NEVER works, is counterproductive, and is responsible for the unnecessary, unjustified murders of citizens by police officers. Blaming police shootings on an “adrenaline rush” is never an excuse. “Poor training” is also never an excuse.
What is needed is a “Bill of Rights” that police officers will adhere to, when interacting with citizens, as police power is extensive and almost unlimited, and is easily abused:
1. We will treat all citizens with respect; we expect to receive the same respect in return
2. We will not enforce blatantly unconstitutional laws and statutes
3. We will not abide by department and political citation “ticket quotas” when enforcing traffic laws
4. We will not execute warrants at night or with SWAT teams unless immediate loss of life is evident
5. We will not enforce CPS and building code violations as they are administrative in nature
6. We will treat mentally challenged citizens with care utilizing specially trained officers
7. We will adhere to and abide by ALL laws that are expected of ordinary citizens–no police “carve outs”
8. We will not use “professional courtesy” to avoid sanctions for unlawful behavior by police officers
9. We will utilize the use of body and dash cams 100% of the time
10. We consider ourselves to be a part of the community; there is no place for an “us vs. them” attitude
11. You are our employer; we will take all complaints seriously and act on them with deliberate speed
Of course, most police departments and officers will object to some of the suggestions in the “Bill of Rights”, but that is to be expected.
Here are changes that can help reduce police-induced violence:
1. Get rid of police unions. Police unions (fraternities) protect the guilty, and are responsible for the massive whitewashing of questionable police behavior that is presently being committed.
2. Eliminate both “absolute” and “qualified” immunity for all public officials. This includes, prosecutors and judges, police and firefighters, code enforcement and child protective services officials, and others who deal with the citizenry. The threat of being sued personally would encourage them to behave themselves. Require police officers to be “bonded” by an insurance company, with their own funds. No bond= no job. You can bet that insurance companies would be more diligent in weeding out the “bad apples” than our present system…
3. Any public funds disbursed to citizens as a result of police misconduct should come out of police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
4. Regular drug-testing of police officers as well as incident-based drug testing should take place whenever an officer is involved in a violent situation with a citizen–no exceptions.
5. Testing for steroid use should be a part of the drug testing program. You know damn well, many police officers “bulk up” with the “help” of steroids. Steroids also affect users mentally as well, making them more aggressive. The potential for abuse of citizens increases greatly with steroid use.
6. Internal affairs should only be used for disagreements between individual officers–NOT for investigations involving citizen abuse. State-level investigations should be mandatory for all suspected abuses involving citizens.
7. Prosecutors should be charged with malfeasance IF any evidence implicating police officer misconduct is not presented to the grand jury.
8. A national or state-by-state database of abusive individuals who should NEVER be allowed to perform police work should be established–a “blacklist” of abusive (former) police officers. As it stands now an abusive police officer can get a job with another department, continuing the abusive behavior.
9. Most people are unaware that police have special “rules” that prohibit them from being questioned from 48 to 72 hours. This allows them to “get their stories straight” and makes it easier to “cover up” bad police behavior. Police must be subject to the same laws as civilians.
10. All police should be required to wear bodycams and utilize dashcams that cannot be turned off. Any police officers who causes a dash or body cam to be turned off should be summarily fired–no excuses. Today’s body and dash cams are reliable enough to withstand harsh treatment. Body and dashcam footage should be uploaded to a public channel “on the cloud” for public perusal.
11. All interrogations must be video and audio recorded. Police should be prohibited from lying or fabricating stories in order to get suspects to confess. False confessions ARE a problem in many departments. Unknown to most people, police can lie with impunity while civilians can be charged with lying to police…fair? I think not…
12. Any legislation passed that restricts the rights of ordinary citizens, such as firearms magazine capacity limits, types of weapons allowed, or restrictive concealed-carry laws should apply equally to police. No special exemptions to be given to police. Laws must be equally applied.
13 “Asset forfeiture” is a form of “legalized robbery under color of law” and must be abolished. We must return to Constitutional principles when it comes to “crimefighting”. The so-called “war on drugs” is actually a “war on the citizenry” and has had an extremely corrosive effect on the Constitutional principles that our country is (supposed to be) founded on.
14. “No-knock” raids must be abolished as they put both police and (especially citizens) in harms way. Even the Nazis “knocked on the door” before gaining entry.
15. SWAT teams must be reigned in on their “dynamic entry techniques”. Utilizing SWAT teams for routine situations is dangerous to both police and citizens. Smashing everything in sight “just because they can”, blaming it on an “adrenaline rush” must end. There is NEVER a reason for destroying property.
16. The “21 foot rule” must be modified or abolished. American police training assumes that ANYONE that gets within 21 feet of a police officer and is deemed a threat, even a non-life-threatening situation is “fair game” for the use of lethal force. Persons with rakes, sticks, knives, or even their fists have been executed, even when non-lethal means would have been more appropriate. Police hide behind the “21 foot rule” in order to justify questionable police shootings. Their “excuse”, when brought before a prosecutor or grand jury is “that is the way they are trained”. THAT has to change. Police have a greater responsibility NOT to use deadly force against those that they could easily subdue by other means.
17. Clear and concise “rules of engagement” must be established for ALL American law enforcement personnel. Any deviation from these rules must be severely punished. It is interesting to note that American military veterans in combat zones operate under more restrictive “rules of engagement” than American “law enforcement”. In fact, American “law enforcement” operates under NO “rules of engagement”. They have total “carte blanche” to destroy whoever they want. THAT has to change…
Police work is not inherently dangerous…there are many other professions that are much more dangerous.
A little “Andy Taylor” could go a long way in allaying fears that citizens have of police.
That being said, I have no problem with the majority of police officers who do their job in a fair, conscientious manner…however, it is time to call to task those police officers who only “protect and serve” themselves.