New York lawmakers consider ten-round ammunition magazines a bad, bad thing. The recently enacted SAFE Act reduces the legal maximum number of cartridges (a.k.a., bullets) to seven. Come April 15, Empire State gun owner can no longer buy a ten-round magazine. Nor can he or she load a pre-ban ten-round magazine with more than seven rounds. The “thinking” behind the seven-round law is as convoluted as it is capricious . . .
If a spree killer has three less cartridges in his gun there could be three less lives lost when he starts murdering innocent children. By the same token, the measure could (in theory) limit the lethality of gang bangers, armed robbers and other n’er do wells.
Also, reloading takes time. Not much if you know what you’re doing. Hardly any, really. But lawmakers would have their constituents believe as they do (apparently) that the time a madman/criminal spends reloading is “extra” time for innocents to escape and rescuers to intervene.
Of course, that’s assuming the madman/criminal uses a magazine that only holds seven rounds. The logic also assume that he/she/they don’t fully load an illegal ten round magazine, of which there are literally millions in circulation. Or use a higher capacity magazine, of which there are literally millions in circulation.
What are the odds that three rounds will be the difference between life or death for someone on the wrong end of a madman/criminal’s gun? Slim? None? Of all the “crime fighting” measures lawmakers could have added to their unconstitutionally enacted civilian disarmament legislation the seven-round limit is easily the most absurd. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Which brings us to the first of three reasons why New York’s seven-round magazine capacity law (coming soon to a New England state near you) is good for gun rights.
1. Seven-round mag cap laws reveal the “gun control” lobby’s true intentions
Unlike New York state’s freshly minted laws regarding background checks, ammo sales registration and “assault weapons,” no one in their right mind could possibly argue that the seven-round limit is anything other than an infringement upon lawful gun owners’ Second Amendment protection.
The limit sends a clear message to millions of law-abiding gun owners: we (the state) control your guns. Not you. We decide how, when, where and why you can defend yourself, your family and your community. Not you. If we say you can only load your magazine with seven bullets, what we say goes.
As will Americans’ gun rights, eventually. The mag cap limit is a blatant—and so far successful—attempt to chip away away at American citizens’ firearms freedom until it’s gone. Which is, clearly, the mag limit backers’ plan.
2. Seven-round mag cap laws waken the sleeping giant
I’m no intellectual powerhouse. If I can figure out that a seven-round magazine limit does nothing to fight crime and everything to promote a civilian disarmament agenda so can every single gun owner in the United States. But it’s more than that.
The seven-round magazine capacity limit is literally taking bullets from their gun. It’s the government directly and capriciously reducing gun owners’ ability to defend themselves, their family and their community. And that’s pissing them off.
Sure New Yorkers (and residents of Massachusetts, Hawaii and other states) “agreed” to a ten-round magazine capacity limit. It’s just as non-sensical and a seven-round limit. But there is a point at which Americans say enough to their government. The ten-round mark is it.
To wit: at a recent meetings with the law enforcement officials tasked with implementing the SAFE Act, hundreds of NY gun owners showed up, in person, to voice their anger. Would they have made the scene if the Act was “just” about the ban on transferring modern sporting rifles in-state (including the gun owners’ progeny)? Sure.
But the seven-round mag cap limit gives New York gun owners the moral impetus to get off their asses and fight for their rights. And it places them on the moral high ground. It also shows out-of-state gun owners that the push for gun control is not about any particular type of weapon. It’s about civilian disarmament. Seven rounds? I’m not going to stand for that.
No. No they’re not.
3. Seven-round mag cap laws enable civil disobedience
Let’s say you want to protest a state or federal ban on assault weapons. What are you gonna do, show up with a modern sporting firearm on your back? If you do and get arrested all of the people who don’t own guns are going to say “Thank God they arrested that gun nut!” BUT—
If thousands of people show up at NBC with empty 30-round AR-15 magazines—an inert piece of plastic and metal—how’s that going to go down? If the cops arrest all of them that won’t look good for the government. If they don’t it will empower the gun rights movement and spark similar protests in exactly those states where gun rights are most under threat.
In short, the seven-round magazine limit law is a gift to gun rights advocates. Americans who seek to defend and extend their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms can use it to highlight the true motives of their aspiring oppressors, to beat back the efforts of unmasked gun grabbers, hoisting them by their own petard.
NEXT: 3 Reason Why Gun Control is Good for You.
NY schmuck cops just arrested a four-tour injured veteran and charged him with five felonies for having five 30-rounders in his trunk.
A while back said decorated veteran had a write up in a NY paper about his efforts to help other injured vets in aqua therapy but now he’s a criminal looking at five felony charges. I hope asshole Cuomo is proud of himself.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2013/feb/1/miller-ny-vet-arrested-30-round-magazines-part-1/
3 Reasons Why Being Halfway Down the Slope is Better Than Being at the Top or the Bottom.
Don’t forget the resurgence of the 1911!
Protests with empty illegal 30-round magazines? David Gregory can lead the charge.
Do I get extra credit because my Glock 36 only holds 6? The inmates are running asylum, and we put them there…
Kudos to APD and the officer in question. Well done!
Sadly, in my experience…the SRO position tends to be a dumping ground of sorts. Officers that don’t do well shagging calls and putting handcuffs on grown folks end up getting hosited off on the SRO job. This results in the poorest trained, worst shooting, least physically fit, or least aggressive officers being in these positions.
Personally, most of the SRO’s I’ve known would be a danger to themselves or others if confronted by a determined active shooter.
MOST, not all…but most…
This is more proof that the people who write these laws have no idea what they’re writing (You have to pass the bill to find out whats in it), and their goal is disarmament, not preventing crime. Remember gun control really means people control.
Having said that, Di-Fi’s 10 round magazine limit in 1994 was a boon for concealed carry. Before her AWB the only real concealed carry options were a Colt Commander type pistol (5 or 6 rounds of .45), a snub nosed revolver (5 rounds of .38 Special, .357, or my favorite .44 Special) , or a handful of tiny pistols in insuffienct calibers like .380 (and with the ammo available in 1994, .380 was insufficient) .32 and .25.
Thanks to the 10 rd limit instead of trying to figure out how to build a gun you could fit in your hand around a 14 rd magazine, like the Para Ordance P14.45, gun makers tried to figure out how small of a gun you can build around ten rounds, like a Glock 30.
Interesting point of view.
For those that are going to get all up in arms about RF saying it’s “good,” becalm yourself. He’s not so much saying it’s good as “use it.” When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=34a_1317870586 – California compliant gun safe (humor)
Here’s hoping that reason #4 is that the SCOTUS throws out this limit because it fails the common use standard set in Heller.
I don’t even understand the use of a poll anymore. If you read the fine print on most, it’s something like 500-1500 people involved. Any cross section there? Any diversity? Is this 500-1500 people in upstate New York or in Texas (bet that would swing the stats a bit). I’m just saying…I’ve even googled for open polls or surveys to participate in and I can’t find a single one.
As far as cross-section and diversity, I think a lot of polls now are done by random number auto-dialers. The geographical spread on the numbers is determined by the people running the survey, but it’s often nationwide. One point of note though: it’s only landlines. Anyone who doesn’t have a land line (like me and everyone I know of my generation) is self-selected out of the ability to respond.
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Is this not a form of racism?
Hate to split hairs here….
Are 7 rounds an absolute or do they allow for +1 (one in the chamber)? I just want to be clear. We all know that they’re only looking out for our best interest and safety.
If it’s an absolute, I hope the ammo manufacturers get on board and only sell boxes that hold multiples of 7. Nothing would be worse than buying a box of 50 and have one left over.
Commerce between individuals within a state is an issue for the separate states. Unfortunately the current standard for federal firearms regulatory authority was established with the revised GFSZA which is based on the idea that the Federal government can regulate ammunition and firearms in perpetuity because their very existence effects interstate commerce on an ongoing basis.
If I remember correctly, there WAS a gun show loophole for a few years after the Brady bill passed. Before the NICS system became active, handgun purchases from fixed-location retailers had a waiting period whereas guns show sales had the waiting period waived.
It would have been good to specifically point out how it may polarize some of the pure hunters who have been sitting on the sidelines saying, “oh w/e it’s not my guns they’re coming after.” Now there is material evidence of that slippery slope we keep talking about. Your shotguns and hunting rifles may not be as safe as you think they are.
All these morons are making the formerly grey line in the sand so much more…. clear, and expediting the eventuality of another Civil War.
These states, and any others refusing to honor the Constitution should be forcibly removed from the union, immediately, before the cancer continues to spread.
Thank you Rabbi… IMHO, this is a very comprehensive document. I’m not sure I can add to it but I sure can use it…. Good luck Sir….My prayers are with you…
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They can all go to hell. I will boycott any gun or ammo manufacturer that goes along with this ****. I will reward any that defies them as best I can.
Like the media, education and the American Medical Association, the ABA is another group that’s effectively been “captured” by the left.
Classic example of a group who needs to point the finger back at themselves. Maybe if lawyers spent less time doing everything they can to put violent criminal clients back on the street and keep insane people out of institutions… oh well, they want to make money! Or maybe if law schools weren’t a-flurry of cocain customers fueling demand for gang violence….
Never ones to take tyranny lightly, the coeds from that day forth shot in groups greater than seven.
Mothers against Feinstein
I haven’t been a member of the ABA for five years and now I certainly never will be again.
Awesome! Thanks for speaking out.
#41- President Obama drives a car all the time at Camp David!
Some small thing overlooked. Cities run short of ammo and go to Obama. Obama gets his AG to start an eminent domain case against the manufacturer of what the cops need. To recoup the cost the feds would enact a safety tax for all to pay and the cops get free ammo and guns at our expense. Besides that the company is now government run with more federal SEIU overpaid employees. I wouldn’t put it past them to do this.
Out of respect for her final wishes, the all female firing squad that executed Senator Feinstein left their “assult weapons” at home.
2020: Aspiring kindergarten teachers taking their final test prior to receiving their teaching certification.
Wholly Cow I so missed this article!
Home carry……because 100% of home invasions happen where?
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This guy makes way too much sense.
I started to read the comments on latimes.com and after 5 minutes I had to close the page. I hope the “big” one comes and does humanity a favor and drops California into the ocean.
Your policy of not selling to anyone in a state where anyone has been restricted of what they can possess does not take into account that not every law enforcement officer or member of the military agrees with, supports or will assist in any way any unconstitutional restriction of citizen rights. I am one of those law enforcement officers.
Dishonest title is dishonest.
“Massachusetts Cops on Why They Should Own AR-15s”
Fixed it for you.
Does not pass Occam’s Razor.
I love my Mosin, and in Kansas it’s just ideal.
My cousin knows a guy that knows Cumo well, and said he Como own several 15 mag glocks to protect his family.
Funnel effect gentlemen. Ban something here. Arrest people. Maybe people move to avoid the BS. Ban something there. Loophole laws suited for the big G, a landslide to the eventual. Big G buys up a crap load of ammo -uses mags with more than ten rounds- civil war erupts eventually. Too many hot button issues being beaten on. For now we are letting Lady Liberty roll over and take it from Uncle Sam.
The person that wrote this article is an idiot….sure, let’s do a 7 round limit in every state….that should help the gun rights movement… Pathetic.
I keep 27 hollow points in my extended magazine down here in Texas.
I seem to always look at things somewhat different——-
a law enforcement officer stops a perp with a fully loaded ten round mag——
guess where the first three rounds are going——
seven round limit are cop killers——-?
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