Florida Carry to Host Open Carry Fishing Event in Ocala On Saturday, April 6

Florida Carry Sues City of Miami Beach

courtesy Florida Carry

Florida Carry will hold its Second Annual Open Carry Fishing Adventure at Ocala Tuscawilla Park, 829 NE Sanchez Ave, Ocala, Florida 34470 on Saturday, April 6, 2019 from 10am – 5pm.

The event is held during one of Florida’s free fishing weekend. So the good news is, you don’t need a fishing license to fish. And under Florida Statute 790.25(3) you can legally open carry a pistol or long gun while fishing (or going to or from fishing).

Courtesy – Florida Carry

The irony is that currently under state law, a person who is licensed to conceal carry a firearm would be arrested and jailed just for walking around the same park (if not fishing) if any part of their firearm became visible from underneath their clothing.

A person’s manner of carry should not be dictated by the government. If you are licensed to carry, then you should have the freedom to carry your firearm, concealed or not.

Is there any other constitutional right we have as citizens that must be practiced in secret or seek a government permission slip to exercise?

Florida Republicans have continually refused to restore the right of open carry. Then Florida State Attorney Janet Reno organized a deal in 1987 that stripped Floridians of their open carry rights during a late at night session in the Florida Legislature.

Attend this Florida Carry event (no membership required) if at all possible to show your support for your carry rights, and then join Florida Carry for only $25 per year. If you join their $50 plan you even get a free Kydex holster.

Courtesy – Florida Carry

Additionally, call and write the office of Governor Ron DeSantis and ask if he intends to take a backseat to open carry rights just like former Governor and now current Senator Rick Scott did, as he watched Republican leadership in the state legislature kill bills that would have legalized open carry.

Tell the new governor you want him to take the lead on this and not just watch from the sidelines while the Legislature plays its games.

It’s high time for liberty to shine in the state formerly known as the “Gunshine State.”

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  1. avatar Just Sayin says:

    Winner, winner, chicken diner!!

    Oops, I meant fish fry…

  2. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

    “The irony is that currently under state law, a person who is licensed to conceal carry a firearm would be arrested and jailed just for walking around the same park (if not fishing) if any part of their firearm became visible from underneath their clothing.”

    That is no longer correct. As I understand it, brief, inadvertent exposure is no longer a crime. But your miles may vary concerning your interaction with a cop in that department…

    1. avatar k says:

      It’s right up the road from me in Wesley Chapel Will I see you there? I’ll buy lunch.

  3. avatar Fully Involved says:

    I still dont understand what this is trying to do. I agree with in in principle, but I dont see what can be practically accomplished by doing this aside from giving the media ammo to paint pro-gun and pro-2A people as crazy people with guns.
    If you want to get people to become comfortable enough with guns that they dont freak out at the sight of them, then why not invite democrats who never fired a gun to a professional (yet non-NRA) free public firearm lessons? Reserve Markham park’s range specifically for this for a day. I doubt public exhibition of AR-style rifles will have the same effect of rational and mature understanding. On the contrary it would only solidify the notion held by the gun-weary (not to be confused with the overt anti-gun) democrats that the right love their guns to a crazy and unjustifiable extent.

    1. avatar Gadsden says:

      This same method worked very well in Texas. TTAG reported on it extensively.

      Florida needs open carry, 45 states have open carry. Florida needs it to help re establish itself a pro gun rights state after some severe set backs here.

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      It helps normalize the sight of a firearm on a person. “Out of sight, out of mind” works against the right to keep and bear arms. Besides, why should someone exercising an unalienable individual right to keep and bear arms hide themselves?

      I have been involved in open carry activism for a long time and I carry openly everyday, everywhere legal. It does work to normalize the carrying of firearms. It also makes sure that local law enforcement is trained properly as to the law. Many people have come over to supporting the right to keep and bear arms due to open carry. Any that it would be repulsed aren’t really supporting the right in the first place and are unlikely to ever do so.

      1. avatar Forward Assist says:

        I sincerely hope it is never a normal thing to have an obese white man hang out with the kiddies at the fish pond while wearing an AK47 in a single point sling.

        That just screams “deranged “ no matter how much you love guns. And the open carry clowns are just one negligent discharge from sending gun rights back 50 years. And their actions already demonstrate these bozos have tendencies towards the negligent.

        1. avatar John in Ohio says:

          Here’s your goat.

        2. avatar Gadsden says:

          Winning the open carry fight here in Florida is about strategy, I get that you’re likley too dense to understand what strategy actually means.

          Strategy is about winning key victories that dominates important resources and strategic geographical features to give you a dominant position in war, and the same applies to politics.

          For instance, to a layman like yourself, you probably wouldn’t understand the significance of the British successfully holding Egypt and the Suez Canal from the Germans in WW2. You probably think, “oh, herp derp, the war is in Europe and the main front is in Russia, who cares about the Suez?” But Britain’s ability to hold Egypt was critical in keeping Britain not only alive, but remain a key force in the war. The same applies here in FL, because recently Florida has seen some severe set backs.

          Why does this particular “open carry” matter to the rest of the overall fight across the nation? Because Florida needs a big solid, pro 2A win, and the rest of the nation needs that too. If Florida falls and goes the way of AWB and denial of carry rights, it’ll be a major foothold for the left the south, which is a big problem. The left will then be able to influence GA and the Carolinas more, and eventually break them, too. Why does the south matter? Because largely, the south is a cohesive political unit, that is heavily favorable to gun rights. If the south is weakened on that front, and ultimately overrun, then the Midwest and west will not be able to hold out for long, or ever win in any meaningful way.

        3. avatar John in Ohio says:

          Keep rearranging those deck chairs on the Titanic, Gadsden. That ship will sink no matter how you rearrange the chairs. Incrementalism will bite y’all in the ass. I’ve already been where Florida OC is trying to head. We had plenty of guys with opinions like yours and they were just as mistaken. Florida won’t get there through little steps. What these OC groups are doing, forcefully OCing within the law, has the best chance of any non-violent options available to them. Playing the game, eating an elephant, making sausage, or whatever the hell euphemism you want to pick are delay tactics by the enemies of liberty. Useful idiots, regardless of their good intentions, aid in that delay. Liberty now is the only sure way to the goal. Florida isn’t happening in a vacuum. It is in a race. It cannot afford to be too slow. The notion of individual liberty is being indoctrinated out of the masses at a rapid pace now. Move too slowly and you will certainly lose. Push as fast as possible and you might just win.

        4. avatar John in Ohio says:

          “Florida has seen some severe set backs.”

          There will be many more if liberty loving Floridians don’t push hard forward now. Tick-tock.

        5. avatar John in Ohio says:

          Or, maybe I misunderstood your posts. Perhaps they were to Forward Assist and I didn’t understand them. If that was the case, I apologize. Regardless, I stand by what I have posted. Floridians need to push now. Delays will only hurt them.

          (Coffee hasn’t kicked in yet this morning.)

    3. avatar John in Ohio says:

      “On the contrary it would only solidify the notion held by the gun-weary (not to be confused with the overt anti-gun) democrats that the right love their guns to a crazy and unjustifiable extent.”

      Do you consider openly bearing arms in a peaceful manner to be “a crazy and unjustifiable extent”?

      1. avatar Fully Involved says:

        “Do you consider openly bearing arms in a peaceful manner to be ‘a crazy and unjustifiable extent’?”

        Personally, no, but I’ve lived in south Florida for the majority of my adult life and I know how many South Floridians think (and what we see as sensible open carry they see as recklessly flaunting a high-powered weapon).

        And again, I agree with open carry in principle. We shouldn’t have to hide our right to keep and bear arms like it’s some sort of sick perversion, I get that. I commend you for open carrying and your activism, but I’m still struggling to see how a relatively few people open carrying on occasion would convince a person to support the 2A, particularly in South Florida (and btw Texas generally is vastly different from Florida; I can see how open carry working there but cant say the same for SoFLo). The sight of someone open carrying an AR isn’t going to make some gun-weary democrat approach that person to start a civil and productive discussion on gun rights. On the contrary, it’s gonna scare them the fuck away.

        Being from a medical background, I see a huge similarity between the anti-vaxxers and anti-gun people in that both these groups are relatively few in number but disproportionately vocal, and no amount of logic or reasoning is going to change their mind. These people are a lost cause and no energy or resources should be wasted on them. However, the larger portion of people blatantly-labelled as anti-vaxxers are really vaccine-hesitant (i.e. they’re not outright against vaccinations, but they have concerns, which is fair enough). These people ‘can’ be educated (and converted to pro-vaccine) through civil dialogue with their physicians.
        The same approach can be applied to gun-weary democrats. The trick is to find ways to entice them to start the dialogue, and I don’t think open carry does that, at least not in South Florida’s current political climate as it relates to the 2A. Rather, I think it might do more harm than good as the media is only going to twist this to further promote the so-called Ban Assault Weapons Now (BAWN) political initiative and similar programs (and who knows how Nikki Fried and her cronies are gonna spin this).

        1. avatar John in Ohio says:

          Granted, things might play out differently in South Florida (one of my favorite places, BTW). I have been down there a bit and like it but I cannot make specific statements with the same authority as you live there. Mine will be general in nature or specific to Ohio.

          My experience has proven to me that open carry, including long guns, improves overall acceptance of the right to keep and bear arms. After enough time, it becomes accepted and pretty much doesn’t even raise an eyebrow in an area. Concealed carry only or meekly open carrying sporadically tends to not really help with normalization. In the beginning, there is sometimes heat, huffing and puffing. When that falls away, only the hardcore anti-gunners continue to gripe. Even they tend to give up after a while. Concealed carry only ends up with an out-of-sight out-of-mind effect which does nothing to lessen gun control.

      2. avatar Pat89 says:

        “Do you consider openly bearing arms in a peaceful manner to be ‘a crazy and unjustifiable extent’?”
        —————-
        I do not see anyone here saying they are so that touches on straw man.

        The issue people are raising is the question of whether this is good public relations.
        The science on fear and disgust reactions shows that direct in your face exposure to conditioned fear does not reduce fear but hightens it. So a number of open carry demonstrations I have seen bored are absolutely is not a good way to approach the political middle where much of the political contest is fought and counterproductive if you are looking to get people to support us.

        That said, even with the public relations negative I still believe open carry does need to be defended were legal since it is a right. My view is on one hand that it is harmful, but even given that people need to be assertive about rights.

        1. avatar John in Ohio says:

          That was not me setting up an argument or trying to stuff a straw man, Pat89. I genuinely wanted to make sure how Fully Involved viewed the right to keep an bear arms before I proceeded to discuss it further.

          Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar; as is the case here.

        2. avatar John in Ohio says:

          “I do not see anyone here saying they are so that touches on straw man.”

          Fully Involved stated, “On the contrary it would only solidify the notion held by the gun-weary (not to be confused with the overt anti-gun) democrats that the right love their guns to a crazy and unjustifiable extent.”

          I wanted to make completely sure that was not his own bias in the “a crazy and unjustifiable extent” before wasting my time on a reply. Thankfully, Fully Involved answered and cleared that up for me.

        3. avatar John in Ohio says:

          “That said, even with the public relations negative I still believe open carry does need to be defended were legal since it is a right.”

          What about where it isn’t yet “legal”?

          (My assumption is that you meant all around — NOT a straw man.)

    4. avatar strych9 says:

      “…aside from giving the media ammo to paint pro-gun and pro-2A people as crazy people with guns.”

      The media is going to do that anyway. The trick is to make their attempts ineffective.

      Doing this kind of things does that for a great many people who are on the fence about guns but like fishing. Pardon the pun, but the fishing is the “emotional hook” that gets the ball rolling on selling them something, which in this case is gun rights.

      Not every advertisement wins over everyone which is why a company runs different ads targeting different groups of people. This is one of many advertisements that we should be engaging in. The fact that a person or group of people scream “LOOK AT THOSE NUTBAR GUN FREAKS!” doesn’t mean the advertisement didn’t get the conversation started with other people and the simple fact of the matter that the serious anti-gunners are not people you’re going to win over.

      Ford wins over Chevy people all the time and vice versa. But that guy with a sticker on his F150 that says “Cracked Heads, Every Valve Rattles On Level Even Terrain” isn’t their target audience because they’ll never win him over. So they don’t try.

      That’s a lesson we need to apply. We can’t win over Shannon Watts or her ilk, but we don’t need to. Like Ford winning over just enough people to make a profit we only have to win over enough people that Shannon Watts loses. If her message falls on deaf ears for 65% of the public, we already won and we don’t have to win over the other 35%. All we have to do at that point is keep our share and we win.

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        Derp, that’s backwards.

        Chevy wins over Ford owners all the time. But not that guy with the sticker on his F150. Ditto for Ford winning over someone with a Chevy and a sticker that says “Found On Road Dead”.

        1. I would suggest that perhaps one way to convert an anti-gunner might be to take them to a Friends of NRA banquet when one is in your area, and which you plan to attend. Usually, the food is great, and they would see that there are entire families there; with children also attending…. just honest, every-day people who believe in the 2nd amendment.

          The one in my area gives a BB gun to the kids in attendance who are of a certain years in age, and I believe that seeing what us ” gun nuts ” do when when we gather in support of the 2nd, might at least open the door to a dialogue, which would be a good beginning. We can spout all the rhetoric possible, but seeing is believing.

        2. avatar John in Ohio says:

          @larry shriver: How do we convince the NRA to stop supporting gun control?

        3. How do we convince the NRA to stop supporting gun control ??? I think what needs to happen, is for the fed-up members to stage a revolt AGAIN, like happened back in the (1980’s ?) IF you read Firearms News, then you know that Jeff Knox’s father, and several others did just that, and put the then NRA on a different course. Unfortunately, things have been reverting back to the old ways again; and the membership are the losers.

          Contact Jeff at The Firearms Coalition, and get his suggestions…..

          If you are eligible to vote for board members, do so; but rather than vote for the maximum numbers that you can, just vote for the ones who you feel are the strongest, and most fervent supporters of our cause…like Ted Nugent, etc.

          I know that we don’t feel like contributing money when it seems like we aren’t being supported and represented as we should, but it costs money for all the legal defenses that are entered in our best interests. If we don’t support the NRA, and the other organizations fighting for our cause, then we have no hope. With each new revelation of a shooting somewhere, ( which the Democrats and anti-gun media exploit to the fullest,) we are no longer fighting an uphill battle. Now it is like trying to get to the top of a greased telephone pole.

        4. avatar strych9 says:

          “I would suggest that perhaps one way to convert an anti-gunner might be to take them to a Friends of NRA banquet…”

          As I said, different ads for different groups of people. Some people will be swayed by one and not the other. For some it’s a banquet, some it’s Boy Scout thing, some it’s a fishing trip, some it’s a trip to the range.

          True antis will never be swayed but if you can take people who are on the fence or moderately anti-gun and convince them that you’re reasonable many of them will move to a “I don’t like them but I don’t want to take yours” position which, while not perfect, is a big step in the right direction.

          Colion Noir, whatever you might think about him personally, is an example of this. The guy was scared of guns and flat out didn’t like them. He went shooting and fell in love with the nerd aspect of a controlled explosion in his hand pushing an object out some distance with speed and accuracy. He was hooked. Look at him now.

          There is no “silver bullet” (unless you like shitty beer). What we need is a mix where groups are targeted with advertising as are individuals. That’s where you’ll start to gain ground. So, do what you can do and let groups do what they do provided they do it with good “optics” so they’re not undercutting their own message.

  4. avatar Nananashi says:

    “Additionally, call and write the office of Governor Ron DeSantis and ask if he intends to take a backseat to open carry rights just like former Governor and now current Senator Rick Scott did, as he watched Republican leadership in the state legislature kill bills that would have legalized open carry.”

    I did that back in January. Told him to veto everything (Coolidge style) till the legislature did what we want.

    Also sent my state senator a letter telling him to block communications from Marion Hammer and listen to Florida Carry instead.

    1. strych9 mentions Colion Noir….If you have the opportunity, he did an on-air interview with Joe Rogan, which, I personally, found to be interesting. It is over 2 hours long, but well worth watching to hear the viewpoints expressed.
      Just as strych9 mentioned, Colion did not like guns until he had the opportunity to shoot some of them, and then he was a convert. Perhaps , if some of us were to take a mildly anti-gun person to the range when we go, and allow them to observe, they might develop a desire to see what it is like to try to hit a target.
      If, by chance, they would want to experience shooting at a target, offer to bring them along the next time you attend the range. And, if possible, try to get the range officer to show them the proper techniques, etc. for the safety aspect.
      Give them your old Rifleman magazines to read after you have finished with them….Perhaps the more they learn, the more they will become interested in the joy of shooting, gun collecting, etc.

  5. avatar WI Patriot says:

    Quite the “in your face” move…

  6. avatar Conrad says:

    We all know what that will look like:

    1. avatar Rusty Chains says:

      Loved that movie, especially when the lion chewed up his mom’s boyfriend!

  7. avatar strych9 says:

    Personally I like this method of exposure.

    Mixing in firearms with innocuous behavior that a bunch of non-gun people helps with the “we’re just like you” aspect and opens those people up to a discussion that starts with lures or fly vs spin casting and, properly directed, ends up with a rational discussion of firearms.

    Call it “disarming” if you like, but it gives people something to talk about other that the thing that makes them apprehensive and once they realize there isn’t any danger you can have a real conversation.

    Even if you don’t discuss guns they come away with a different view because they like fishing so they feel good about fishing. Now they’ve encountered fishing while openly armed and are less nervous about that because the people fishing are nice and friendly, just like them, and emotional walls start to come down meaning those people are then more open to a future conversation.

    1. avatar John in Ohio says:

      Exactly. It’s the same if I’m grocery shopping, walking, hanging out with a special interest club, etc. So very many people seem to come around to the idea of, “Hey, normal(ish) guy doing normal things. Guns don’t make him a bad guy.” Also, many people start expressing a desire to one day carry. I tell them about getting a CHL in Ohio and I tell them about open carry. More people than I can count over the years have started carrying because of open carry. Some have said they didn’t have anyone to ask because they rarely saw a firearm on someone who wasn’t and police or security officer.

      Similar things happen regularly at formal OC walks.

  8. avatar Adub says:

    Headline on Monday:

    “Mass Boating Accident Results in Millions of Firearms Lost”

    1. avatar WI Patriot says:

      If only the headline read…

      “Mass Boating Accident Results in Millions of liberals Lost”

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      (I know, I know… It’s a joke. Albeit a tired one.)

      That’s a big difference between the founders of this nation and some POTG today… The founders dumped tea overboard and kept their guns.

      Claiming that your guns are gone might help the individual but doesn’t really help the expression of the unalienable individual right to keep and bear arms at this point in the fight.

  9. avatar possum says:

    Gunms for fishing.. I’ve shoooted fish, but a pie p blomb works better

    1. avatar possum says:

      How times have changed. Just 40 years ago on a hot summers day on a county road you might see 6 to 7 people shoooting gar off a bridge. Johnny law roll up, ” Whatcha doing” shooiters” Shoooting Gar” JL “any luck?” Times sure have changed

  10. avatar former water walker says:

    Enough with the OFWG carrying that scary gun. You’ll all be old someday. Unless you’re a dead azzhole…I WISH we had open carry in ILLinois.

    1. avatar Gadsden says:

      Some people just hate freedom. They’d rather the nanny state give them privileges.

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