SHOT Show: Palmetto State Armory MP5 Update

Palmetto state armory MP5

Courtesy A. Valdes

Palmetto State Armory is working to bring the masses an affordable, American-made MP5. Due to an issue with a parts manufacturer not making some components to the required specs PSA demanded, the release was delayed. But fear not, PSA is looking at a late Q3 or early Q4 release with a MSRP below $1,300 and a target price of $1,100 if everything lines up right.

They told me they resolved the issue the problems with the part manufacturer by buying them.

Courtesy A. Valdes

No, you aren’t imagining things. That’s a Magpul lower and handguard. PSA stated that Magpul is on board to make the polymer components for the new gun.

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The thought of an affordable American MP5 makes me giggle like a little school girl.

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I, for one, can’t wait.

comments

  1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    I’m in!

    1. avatar Gadsden says:

      I’m pretty interested too and hope they produce spare mags at a decent price as well.

    2. avatar cgray says:

      Yeah, no more than five rounds for you, potential school shooter.

  2. I too drool at the prospect of owning an MP5.

  3. avatar Evan says:

    I want!

  4. avatar Buff cousin Elroy says:

    Is it just a simple blowback gun wearing a mp5 body kit or is it a “real mp5” ?

    1. avatar BlazinTheAmazin says:

      Word from Josiah, the top CS guy at PSA is that these are the true roller delayed MP5 goodness!

      The MP5 has always been one of my grail guns although I bought a German A3 parts kit last year that Mike from D3 LLC finished for me on an American flat. Fantastic work and runs like a top, all told I’m in it for about $1600. Hopefully the PSA option will be a great bet for those looking for something a little more economical.

      1. avatar Buff cousin Elroy says:

        Right on dude!

  5. avatar C.S. says:

    Is that button a mag release?

    1. avatar DrewN says:

      Looks reversible as well.

    2. avatar Rob says:

      Yes, it’s part of the mag release. On HK 9x pattern guns, you can use the paddle, or the button.

      It’s not reversible.

  6. avatar Rob says:

    Well, I want to be hopeful that this works out well, and is a decent quality MP5.
    That said, with PSA’s recent QC issues, I’m ready to be disappointed.

  7. avatar Sheer Hawai'i says:

    Looks closer to an MP5-K to me.

  8. avatar Geoff "Bring the EDIT button back, will ya, TTAG?" PR says:

    “The thought of an affordable American MP5 makes me giggle like a little school girl.”

    I’ll giggle and even *snicker* if we can get the Hughes amendment slapped down so I can have a smile switch on it…

  9. avatar Jack M Feldman says:

    PTR has had that for a year. Several models available. Threaded barrel and 3-lug suppressor mount standard. M-look forend and rail included. Mine works beautifully.

    1. avatar Stinkeye says:

      Aren’t the PTRs like $500 more than this one?

      1. avatar bobinmi says:

        Yup, but you get what you pay for and PTR doesn’t use their first run of customers as beta testers like PSA.

    2. avatar Fcmatt says:

      And made by an evil caliphate…

      1. avatar M1Lou says:

        PTR is made in an evil caliphate? Is that what South Carolina is these days? Scary!

        1. avatar Ton E says:

          That accurately describes SC!

  10. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    Interesting, the PSA mp5 appears to be a reverse stretch, meaning the receiver and trigger group are from a full size mp5 but the barrel and front end are from a K model. This means it isn’t a true K or k-pdw clone, however that also means the Magpul trigger group housing fits (Compatible with H&K MP5s and Reverse Stretch clones, HK91/93/94) and you can use a collapsible stock rather than just side folders. Not a bad thing, gives you more options, but also not the same as an mp5k-pdw or mptk, sp89, sp5k, etc set up.

  11. avatar Tomas says:

    How much does a semiauto H&K MP5 sell for these days? I bought one pre-ban. Love it. It’s a smooth firing piece o’ Teutonic fun!
    Thanks-
    Tomas

  12. avatar little horn says:

    its not an MP5 if its not auto. you are buying a large pistol with cosmetics, nothing more. these aren’t even new. idiot person i know bought one about 15 years ago. i said the same thing to him, then he realized i was right and sold it.
    so the only reason to buy it is…made in America??? lmao, grow up guys. jesus.
    is it even roller delayed? no its not so in NO WAY is it a MP5.

    1. avatar HatefulHermit says:

      I’m not sure there was even one fact in that entire rant…

    2. avatar Gadsden says:

      That’s not true. It is a roller delayed firearm.

    3. avatar Broke_It says:

      Damn, you must be a riot at parties. I’m glad you showed up to set us all straight. I was entertaining the many thoughts of buying one of these and quoting Willis all day at the range. You’re right it’s pointless. Wait. Fuck it, I’m still gonna do that.

      1. avatar MattS. says:

        I would be the same way if I had the nickname of little horn. But I am sure he is home right know cleaning his full auto mp5 and a couple m16s because there is no point in having one of those loser semi auto ar15s

    4. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

      Cool story bro.

    5. avatar yolo says:

      this comment is why i scroll down lol worth the search

    6. avatar Busybilly says:

      Lighten up Frances…..

  13. avatar Ransom says:

    They partnered with Magpul for the warm and cuddly MOE bits…. …..wonder if they partnered with Gear Head for the tailhook?… …Or maybe that’s who they bought? I just hope that the MOMENT this becomes available I happen to have my phone and credit card in my hand…. ….so I don’t get the “Temporarily out of Stock” I always seem to get 5 minutes after P S A offers a hot item.

  14. avatar Dm says:

    Needs rail on top. Other than that, shut up and take my money.

    1. avatar Quest says:

      That was My thought too… *Shut up and take my money* followed by a long pause.

      Anyone with knowledge of ease/expense of a picatinny addition willing to chime in and convince me?

    2. avatar Fully Involved says:

      Alas, the only real flaw of the mp5.

  15. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

    i guess, roller delay is neat. i’d be happy with the psa 9mm zhukov.

  16. avatar Killtron says:

    I hope they are able to pull this off. I’ve got a Zenith/MKE version of the MP5 and a MP5k. For $1100 I’d be interested in a Reverse Stretch like the one pictured.

    If you want an American made full sized MP5, the PTR guns look like a good bet and the reviews I’ve seen are promising. They are around $1600 though.

    With parts kits selling for around $1000, the PSA guns will be a good buy assuming they work.

  17. avatar Rynex says:

    Me want.

  18. avatar Charlie says:

    Will it be as inaccurate as the original HK-94?

    Charlie

  19. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    What is the appeal of an MP5 that does not shoot full auto?

    I can purchase a Glock 17 and some 33 round magazines and have the same result. In fact, I could buy TWO Glock 17s, several 33 round magazines, and maybe even have enough money left to purchase about 1,000 rounds of 9x19mm Parabellum ammunition for the same price as that MP5 alone.

    1. avatar Gadsden says:

      Not everyone wants to just horde tons of glocks and ARs. If your going by a pure pragmatic standard then you might as well only own a Glock and an AR. Who wants to only own two guns?

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Gadsden,

        Sure, I get that. And I might be interested in an MP5 if it was in the same general price range as the large field of semi-automatic pistols. What I don’t understand is paying something like $1,200 for a semi-automatic pistol that doesn’t seem to do anything any better than a Glock 17, CZ 75, or Smith and Wesson M&P9 pistol.

        Please enlighten me. Why pay so much for a large and heavy semi-auto pistol?

        1. avatar Fully Involved says:

          Practically, from a civilian standpoint, i could see this as being a nice pdw (in addition to home defense, especially suppressed). Soft shooting w/ pistol brace essentially means you can place (more) rounds more accurately on target faster. It would be ideal in a populated place where one is not moving around much and has to take accurate shots for fear of collateral damage (as in a busy workplace, church, etc). To some, these factors might make it worth the extra weight and cost.
          As with all pdws, it’s probably no a good idea to replace an on-body pistol with an off-body pdw, rather it would best to carry it in addition to your pistol.

        2. avatar lucas duyck says:

          there are a lot of reasons for one it is a gun with a lot of history of anti terrorist and law enforcement use. It is also known as an extremely reliable gun. It has also had a lot of Hollywood action flick presence making people want it for the fun factor think of it like a sports car do you need it no but they are cool. I bought a kriss vector because it was cool and I wanted one. As far as using a Glock for the same purpose in the same mindset I could buy 10 Priuses for the price of one corvette but I am probably going to have more fun with the corvette than with the 10 Priuses.

    2. avatar MEDIC says:

      Well, check out Franklin Armory for a Binary trigger and I’d call that pretty close enough unless you *actually* have 20, 30, 50k to spend on a FA MP5 of any kind.

      I don’t. And respectfully, I don’t think anyone who did would spend time complaining in the comments section.

  20. avatar luigi says:

    YES PLEASE

  21. avatar st381183 says:

    For $1100 I will probably save up for a couple more months and just buy a Zenith or MKE at $1600-1700.

  22. avatar Dave says:

    “Due to an issue with a parts manufacturer not making some components to the required specs PSA demanded, the release was delayed.”

    Did they refuse to make the part out of pot metal and have basic machining standards? I can’t see any other way for someone to fail PSA’s “Quality Control”

  23. avatar Mike W. says:

    YES, Magpul is now making MP5 magazines.

    1. avatar Jeff says:

      No, they’re just making grips and handguards. They are making scorpion mags, though.

  24. avatar George from Alaska says:

    This was last years big announcement at last years Shot show. I could have bought the flats, a flat bender, a barrel press, welded everything together and filled it with HK German parts. Not impressed by the same announcement this year. If they didn’t have everything together they should have just shut up last year. Buy a PTR HK clone. The quality is unsurpassed, you can get a rail on top if you want and yes… quality is a whole couple of hundred than a promise from a company with persistent quality control issues.

    1. avatar George from Alaska says:

      “couple of hundred more than”

  25. avatar john says:

    The first picture.

    That’s what they brought to shot show with the crappy weld? Would have taken no time to sand and repaint, seriously? No pride in building, all about the monies.

    Cant wait to see production models. lol

  26. avatar Fully Involved says:

    Cant wait for the inevitable TFBTV James Reeves review. I really want to know how this stacks up to the real thing.

    1. avatar Pete Zaitcev says:

      Or even better, they can import Polenar.

  27. avatar Jennifer says:

    Will this take replacement trigger housings (IE, German SEF, etc)? If so and the price comes in under the competition, I may have to find a way to get back into a MP5 clone (I had a Zenith Z-5RS that I unfortunately had to sell last year

  28. avatar Gary says:

    I’ve been waiting to see this gun since PSA announced it last year. I’m disappointed that the lower is polymer.

  29. avatar sound awake says:

    caveat emptor
    theyre customer service SUCKS
    i want to like them
    i really do
    but they make it difficult

  30. avatar Jnj says:

    Really glad that I put the extra few $100 into the ptr 9ct and have a binary trigger to get put in this week , as that thing is fully.

    Really wanted the psa version last year when it looked classic, not with magpul and already having issues even getting things together they are gonna push yo market and be psa ak gen 1 all over again.

    The ptr with a wide handguard put on is perfection, kci mags at $30 shipped and a brace cant be beat.

    This will be gen 3 before I look to try the k version they have as another scorpion type toy not mp5 standard

  31. avatar Sora says:

    Will it come under 50 oz?
    Feinstein is trying to ban handguns over 50 oz, there goes your Desert Eagle.

  32. avatar L says:

    Just make the damned thing already and take my money!!!!!! And PLEASE make a real stock that’s easy to replace the “”””””””brace”””””””” and sell that too so I can uncuck my mp5 after I wait 8 months for the ATF to send me a permission slip to do it.

  33. avatar Mick says:

    How many variations will there be?
    Will there be one with a stock attached?
    NEED MORE INFO! I am deffenetly interested. Shot a local swat teams mp 5. Two round burst was something to get used to for keeping the groups tight!

  34. avatar E says:

    I’ve waited 3 years to purchase this and honestly I’m starting to agree with guys last year stating they got tired of waiting and invested in Zenith/PTR/Omega. I wanted the classic looking one they originally showed not this magpul furniture. IF that is a Gearhead hook tail thats included in the $1100.00 I’ll be back on board. Otherwise I’m aiming for a Zenith Z-5P.

    1. avatar Cletus says:

      I’ve recently received emails from vendors that showed the Zenith Z5RS in stock. If you want one don’t wait because when they sell out it can be months before the next boatload arrives. I’ve got 2 Zenith guns that I’m happy with, but the PTR versions have had good reviews from what I’ve seen.

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