BREAKING: Diane Feinstein’s New Assault Weapons Ban Bill Is Worse Than Ever

2019 Assault Weapons Ban

courtesy feinstein.senate.gov

Oh boy. Senator Diane Feinstein and her team are up to their old tricks, introducing new Assault Weapons Ban legislation for 2019 that builds on her failed 2017 effort and adds a bunch of new restrictions, regulations, and bans.

Her new bill would outlaw private sales, enact safe storage mandates, and prohibit the transfer of “high capacity” magazines, among other Second Amendment infringements.

If you didn’t care about bump stocks and don’t believe in that “slippery slope” thing, you should care now. Check this out:

Other provisions:

• Requires a background check on any future sale, trade or gifting of an assault weapon covered by the bill.
• Requires that grandfathered assault weapons are stored using a secure gun storage or safety device like a trigger lock.
• Prohibits the transfer of high-capacity ammunition magazines.
• Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.

Updates to Assault Weapons Ban of 2017:

• Bans stocks that are “otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability of a firearm.”
• Bans assault pistols that weigh 50 or more ounces when unloaded, a policy included in the original 1994 ban.
• Bans assault pistol stabilizing braces that transform assault pistols into assault rifles by allowing the shooter to shoulder the weapon and fire more accurately.
• Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons.

Universal background checks, mandatory safe storage, no transfers of existing standard-capacity magazines, no bump stocks, no folding or adjustable stocks, no large-format pistols, no pistol stabilizing braces (they hate disabled persons!), none of grips or stocks designed specifically not to violate the “assault weapons” definitions.

This is insane. God forbid a rifle have an adjustable stock so everyone in the family can use it. God forbid a pistol have a stabilizing brace so disabled shooters can use it. You know, firearms should apparently only be usable by able-bodied adults.

And replacing a banned pistol grip with one that isn’t a pistol grip is now “evading” the ban? That’s rich. So which is it? Are pistol grips a problem or aren’t they? Why are you banning pistol grips if replacing one with a “traditional” or otherwise non-pistol grip doesn’t resolve the “problem?”

For more details on magazine bans, grandfather clauses, and what makes an “assault weapon,” here’s the rest of the text. Well, the rest of the bill’s summary:

Key provisions:

• Bans the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 205 military-style assault weapons by name. Owners may keep existing weapons.
• Bans any assault weapon that accepts a detachable ammunition magazine and has one or more military characteristics including a pistol grip, a forward grip, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel or a folding or telescoping stock. Owners may keep existing weapons.
• Bans magazines and other ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, which allow shooters to quickly fire many rounds without needing to reload. Owners may keep existing magazines.

Exemptions to bill:

• The bill exempts by name more than 2,200 guns for hunting, household defense or recreational purposes.
• The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.

Funny, I always thought “assault” was a verb, not an adjective.

Call your representatives, donate to or assist gun rights orgs like:

Firearms Policy Coalition
Gun Owners of America
Second Amendment Foundation
National Rifle Association

comments

  1. avatar Michael Stilinovich says:

    In the infamous words of Charlie…..Good Grief !

    1. avatar California Richard says:

      “Good grief” we say. They should be saying this about us! What ever happened to national reciprocity and hearing protection act? What about scotus rulings on micro stamping, state “assault weapon” laws, magazine capacity restrictions, and waiting periods? We gave up the initiative and they are putting us on the defensive with this crap!

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      the worse she makes it the less likely it will pass….they always go too far…

    3. So…adding a limbsaver to the end of my youth shotgun, so other family members can use it, will be illegal. It is “adjusting” the stock, ya know.

  2. avatar Tom says:

    You suggest donating to the NRA. That should be only if you WANT this bill to pass into law. The NRA is useless and has betrayed its purpose and members.

    1. avatar Jeremy S. says:

      To be clear, I did not originally include them at all. After the bump stock BS and the red flag law BS, the NRA is feeling fairly dead to me. However, unfortunately, the argument was made that the NRA is still the 800-lb gorilla in the room for us and that this bill goes way, way beyond bump stocks. Basically, that they’re still needed in the corner of the Second Amendment on this one so the NRA at least has to be listed there. They’ve successfully fought AWBs in the past and fought to ensure the previous one did, in fact, sunset in 2004. So…they were added in before publishing.

      If you’re donating money donate to whomever you please, of course.

      1. avatar Tom says:

        That argument makes sense. Thank you for the explanation.

      2. avatar Nanashi says:

        Don’t feed rabid animals.

        1. avatar jwm says:

          We’ll let you starve, then.

      3. avatar High Taper says:

        Which AWB did the NRA successfully prevent? The one in 1994? You mean the one that they AUTHORIZED and an NRA Board Member paid millions of dollars to his elected, liberal official to ensure that his company’s firearms would be placed on the Exempt List?

    2. avatar Gadsden says:

      I’m not a fan of the NRA right now either, but I’d imagine they’d fight this one with everything they have. If this passed they would know that they, and the 2A, are done for good, outside of a, let’s call it, radical regime change.

      1. avatar Sam I Am says:

        “I’m not a fan of the NRA right now either, but I’d imagine they’d fight this one with everything they have. ”

        The Feinstein legislation is not new, not a surprise. Why didn’t the premier civil rights organization in the nation not already have a prepared response to launch immediately after the press release of Feinstein’s new proposal? If waiting to see what is in the proposal is the strategy, that means NRA thinks there may be some acceptable trade-offs in the text. And this is with whom we should trust our rights and our money?

        Maybe it is time to make this obvious point more obvious: all the major cities are turning Leftist. Once all the large population centers are controlled by Leftists, there will not be enough votes remaining to successfully oppose any legislation. There is no Electoral College for anything other than electing a president. The population centers will rule. Look at Washington, Oregon, California, New Jerksey, New York. Numbers is numbers, and constitutionalists don’t have the numbers.

        1. avatar frank speak says:

          Colorado?…[used to be a nice place!]……coming soon Nevada…maybe even Texas?….

    3. avatar SoCalJack says:

      They betrayed CA POTG in 2016. My money goes to CRPA and Guns of California.

    4. avatar John W says:

      Tom, right on brother. The NRA betrayed all of us. I’m a lifetime member who will never donate another penny to them. Support the GOA, Second Amendment Foundation, and local state Pro 2A lobbying groups instead. Also, really important to open a dialogue with your local, state, and national reps in a respectful, to the point, and articulate manner.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        yeah,..gotta’ let them know you’re out there…and joining multiple organizations is starting to look like a good idea..

    5. avatar william says:

      All the NRA wants is to get your money.After 25years as member i am done with them. Guns is just one thing they are into. They have their fingers in a lot of pies.

    6. avatar Larry says:

      I don’t agree with everything the NRA has done but they are the ONLY reason we don’t have the same laws as Australia. If you don’t support them you are a freeloader that is a detriment to the 2nd Amendment and a traitor to the Constitution.

      1. avatar Bobo says:

        @Larry,
        BS the nra is worthless at this point, if their members were smart they’d be giving to the GOA, SAF, JPFO and every other group that SUPPORTS the Second Amendment at the National, State and Local levels…sadly the NRA no longer does (cept maybe in lip service)

  3. avatar Dustin says:

    In the press release, they list both the Las Vegas and Sutherland Springs shootings as taking place in October of 2018. They were both in 2017.

    It may seem like a small detail, but I think it’s important.

    Any distortion of the truth, no matter how small, is significant.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Well, neither of them mattered for their purposes & were quickly forgotten until 2018, so I see their point

    2. avatar barnbwt says:

      Oh yeah, and Sutherland Springs shooting was ended by a citizen wielding a gun that would be a felony under this idiotic law.

      1. avatar Bil says:

        Not to mention the Parkland shooter ONLY carried 10rd magazines…..

    3. avatar TJL says:

      Good catch, and you are 100% correct that it’s important

    4. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

      VERY important, since the supposed need for these draconian restrictions is the crisis of mass shootings caused by these “weapons of war”. If these terrible scary assault weapons are the preferred choice of mass-shooting attackers, it is very curious that she can only find one example to cite in the last year, and has to borrow from the preceding year to promote her alleged crisis.

    5. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “Any distortion of the truth, no matter how small, is significant.”

      So very wrong, mi amigo. What is important is being morally correct. Facts are not valuable in and of themselves. The message is what is important. If facts can illustrate, then fine. If not, well, facts don’t win arguments: “People are not swayed by the height of you logic, but the depth of your emotion.”

      2017, 2018, at this point in time, what difference does it make? Both events actually happened. The damage was actually done. The point is made, even without reference to a specific, or even correct, date.

      People in general do not make decisions based on logic and data, but on how they feel they are being treated or impacted by events; emotions. How I feel is more important to me than how many numbers and statistics you can claim.

      Time has changed; ideas make the difference, not data. A fact-based nation is an uncaring, unfair, uninterested nation. Not a place where real people live.

  4. avatar What about...? says:

    In Washington State, I-1639 redefined ALL semiautomatic rifles regardless of features, caliber and capacity as “assault rifles” effective July 1, 2019. This law applies to ALL such rifles in possession and ALL rifles transferred in to the future. It even applies to .22 rimfire semiautomatics with fixed, tubular magazines of any capacity with wooden straight stocks and no features like the Marlin Model 60. The Washington State AG presented to the State Legislative session ending in March 2019 three anti-2A measures. One measure will BAN ALL “assault rifles” as newly defined by I-1639. If the banning of ALL semiautomatics, including .22 rimfire rifles, regardless of capacity and features, doesn’t pass in the 2019 legislature, it will go before a public vote as a direct to ballot measure like I-1639. The second measure will BAN magazines holding more than 10 rounds, and the third measure bans 80% builds and parts. No transfers are allowed for detachable magazines above 10 rounds. Essentially, all modern semiautomatics will be banned in WA State, if not by the legislature, by a direct to ballot vote. And, according to advocates of this infringement, this is “just the start” what comes next is confiscation.

    1. avatar Kristina Thomas says:

      FFS! Seriously? I live in WA state and I didn’t know abt this additional attempt to disarm me and my family. What can I do to help stop this obvious attempt to destroy MY #2A rights?
      I am furious 1639 even passed. Voter fraud happened here but not a damn word from anyone! My sheriff has stated he will not enforce the new law here, but the fact that confiscation will be the next step, I will not give mine up.

      1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

        “What can I do to help stop this obvious attempt to destroy MY #2A rights?”

        Vote, and drag everyone you know that feels like you do to the polls.

        The only way to beat this is for more of us to show up than them…

      2. avatar Mark says:

        You’ve been asleep at the wheel.. You are a big part of the problem.

      3. avatar UpInArms says:

        ” What can I do to help stop this obvious attempt to destroy MY #2A rights? ”

        Paying attention to what’s going on is the obvious first step.

    2. avatar Huntmaster says:

      It’s a good thing they didn’t hold a ballot initiative on the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Democrats would have voted it down.

      1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

        That’s the only way to attack this.

        The courts *must* declare ‘tyranny of the majority’ prohibited concerning civil rights, like the 2A…

    3. avatar What about...? says:

      The WA State legislature is also considering an initiative that will upset the “preemption” laws in WA. What this means is that individual city governments can make anti-2A rules that are in violation and inconsistent with the WA State constitution and existing laws. For example, a city council may decide to outright ban all semiautomatics and detachable magazines without grandfathering them. Existing owners of semiautomatics and magazines would need to be remove such property from the city limits. In my opinion, this is a greater risk than direct-to-ballot initiatives, because the new rules established at the city level would be far more invasive, not require a vote, not require discussion or dissent, and not have to follow any WA State law. Watch for this one in WA State, as it has been successfully pulled of by other anti-2A legislators and city governments.

    4. avatar frank speak says:

      “red-flags” are already paving the way for that…if people won’t comply, they’ll just wait for someone to rat them out….

  5. avatar rosignol says:

    Meh.

    This is a fundraising stunt, it has zero chance of becoming law.

    1. avatar IN Dave says:

      Agreed, but a quick call and letter to my senators won’t hurt anything either

      1. avatar rosignol says:

        My Senators are Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell. My Rep is Adam Smith.

        The closest thing I have to an elected official who represents my views in DC is President Trump.

        1. avatar Mark says:

          Same here. Smith is actually the biggest Commie ever in the House of Reps.

        2. avatar AR2IsComing says:

          You mean the Trump that pushed the ATF to effectively Ban the Bump_Stock? That Trump? If he’s what your views align with, I’m feel sorry for you…

    2. avatar Middle Aged Tactical Mall Ninja says:

      Say that to the people of the state of Washington whose rights were thrown down the toilet by not just voter fraud, but manipulation of facts and outright fraud to get signatures from real people. WA has gone full retard on the 2nd amendment. How about Commiefornia where the 2nd amendment is practically illegal.

      I am sure, as I was one in WA, many people thought “Meh this will never pass, it’s clearly not legal” yet here we are.

    3. avatar Kevin (The other one) says:

      Its the law here in California, almost everything she is proposing in this new bill we already have and don’t be surprised if they try to outlaw forward grips, muzzle devices, binary triggers, folding stocks, .50 caliber bullets, pistol grips, detachable magazines, and all of the other stupid laws we have here in the final version of this bill.

      If you do not think there is anyway they will use large urban populations to pass laws that the rural smaller population doesn’t want, then you have not been to California or heard of the very restrictive laws that we have here. They have begun to use this strategy nation wide with NYC, Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland, Denver, and a lot of other large cities fully supporting their BS agenda. Oregon and Washington also know what it is like for 1/100th of the land mass to own 90% of the state politics.

    4. avatar TommyG says:

      That attitude will get it passed. Take it from someone who lives in NY. Many guys here thought the laws they wanted to pass would never happen, they didn’t even vote, much less donate to a org that would fight or get active in protesting.
      Now we got the SAFE ACT and there are bills in the NY state legislature to force us to buy insurance just to own a gun and surrender our username/passwords to our social media accounts if we want a pistol permit.
      Your wrong if you think they can’t get these things passed. Its all a matter of convincing the other politicians they can still get elected if they do it.
      They will push the laws until we fight back enough that they don’t get elected.
      We all have to get off our asses if we want to preserve our gun rights.

    5. avatar Keyword Spam says:

      I don’t put anything past the Cheeto in chief.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        not sure how much of a “friend” we have there….

        1. avatar T. says:

          Hey Frank, don’t help feed the false flag operations that DNC operatives have been using. They seek to divide and suppress their opposition, see the articles at THE DAILY CALLER to read about their operatives and methods.

          Beware of “Cheeto” comments and commentators.

    6. avatar Southern Cross says:

      This is political theatrics. It certainly has no chance of passing the Senate. It may not even pass Congress, unless a convenient incident happens.

      It is a rallying cry to the party faithful and political grandstanding to be seen to be doing something. And if it fails to pass, it can then be used to demonize the opposition.

      1. avatar TXinMI says:

        Exactly. This is the Democrat version of voting to repeal Obamacare 50+ times…they have people that ran on it, were elected because of it, and they need the vote on record knowing fully well it won’t go anywhere.

  6. avatar Anon says:

    Don’t send $ to the NRA, They are useless. The rest are great!

    Nothing like being a criminal when you haven’t done anything.

    Germany sent German veterans who won the Iron Cross in WWI to the gas chambers during WWII. And destroyed Jewish business and homes during the Kristallnacht, the night of the broken glass! Less than 20 years before the end of WWI, okay, by 1 day less than 20 years. So 20 years from now, what happens?

    When they take your guns or the right of future generations to have guns, we are finished.

    1. avatar AR2IsComing says:

      Only if we actually allow it to happen….So it will boil down to us being sheep or wolves at that point
      Though sadly, I think we’re more a nation of sheep and if it comes to it, the wolves will end up extinct (and a lot of the sheep will wish they’d been wolves, because they’ll be sheered sheep)

  7. avatar BLAMMO says:

    • Bans anything else we think of, as soon as we think of it.

  8. avatar NORDNEG says:

    I want these people who make these stupid laws to be the ones to come get my guns, don’t send the local cops, you idiot law makers your self come & TRY to get my stuff, please… MAKE MY DAY… huh, were did I hear that one?

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      keep talking that way…and they’ll keep using it against you……

      1. avatar TRex says:

        Keep your mouth shut and it won’t matter

  9. avatar Patriot2 says:

    I will be dead, along with a number of antigunners before this would ever become law.

  10. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    I won’t waste the space here saying what I think of this bill. Or Feinstein the old biddy is wasting paper again. What I will say is I’m debating sending the NRA my 5 year dues. I’m thinking maybe this time to go for the GOA. As to my representatives here in Florida they can all KMA.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      one year at a time for the NRA…make them earn your trust….

    2. avatar DoJo says:

      As mentioned above, give to the GOA, SAF and JPFO along with State and Local groups….

  11. avatar JMR says:

    Huh you would think the NRA would have some news of this.

    But on the ILA site the last post was from December 21st and nothing on the NRA site.

    … oh hey new coolers.

    1. avatar 556SBR says:

      NRA-ILA linked to the guns.com article. Better site because posters there don’t endlessly bash the NRA.

      1. avatar JMR says:

        Right, as I said you would think the NRA would have something on this.

        I’ll quit bashing the NRA when they start fighting for and restoring our rights.

        If you don’t like that, then your no better then the antis.

        1. avatar AntonDRehling says:

          There is the problem. Many expect someone else to fight for their rights and freedom while they sit on their a&&es expecting someone else to do the heavy lifting

        2. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Many expect someone else to fight for their rights and freedom while they sit on their a&&es expecting someone else to do the heavy lifting”

          You are expecting a magical, unguided, unorganized, unfunded grass roots effort to be successful? The Tea Party was effective for only one election cycle, and that was the best organized unorganized political movement in my lifetime. Once victory was obtained, the grass roots devolved to normal dormancy.

        3. avatar JMR says:

          “There is the problem. Many expect someone else to fight for their rights and freedom while they sit on their a&&es expecting someone else to do the heavy lifting”

          See what you did just there? You assumed something.

          Who are you talking about here? Certainly isn’t me, a person whose called, emailed, written to government representatives, whose attended rallies, whose met with representatives, whose flipped anti gunners by taking them to the range and getting them to experience firearms first hand.

          The NRA doesn’t fight for freedom, they fundraise off of the threat of it being taken away. Why would they want to stop it? They lose money that way. Why are we always the one to compromise if the NRA is as powerful and everyone thinks they are? How is it that under a Republican Senate, Republican House, and Republican President the only thing we get is more rights taken away?

      2. avatar Jeremy S. says:

        Because not pointing out where they’ve failed us and sold us out is BETTER? Gotcha. I suppose it does make you better if your goal is to get a commission selling NRA memberships.

  12. avatar Kyle says:

    more laws to ignore

    1. avatar California Richard says:

      Way ahead of you buddy.

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      …..slowly boxing you in though…their goal is to make us all convicted felons…

      1. avatar Kevin (the other one) says:

        And in most states convicted felons can not vote.

  13. avatar Ing says:

    They never stop.

    Trump’s bump-stock edict was both illegal and stupid. The totalitarian left just took it as their due — they have a pillager’s mindset, and it told them that we’re weak and ripe for the taking.

    There’s no appeasing an enemy who hates your very existence.

    The only good news here is that the NRA still is the 800 lb. gorilla, and it has to fight this tooth and claw. If it can’t get a Republican majority in the Senate to toe the line, it has no more reason to exist.

    1. avatar AlfonseDeMatter says:

      No they don’t have to fight it, they just have to tell you that they’re going to fight it, but need money “for the cause”

      The fully backed the bump stock ban and they’ve been pretty silent on everything else….Screw Them, give your money to the other groups that actually will FIGHT for the 2A and help them grow to levels beyond where the NRA ever was…..either that or be prepared to give up your rights or take up arms.

  14. avatar Sam I Am says:

    Yawn. We knew this was coming. It will always be coming. Only wondering why Feinstein, and others, don’t cut to the chase and sponsor a full-up ban on all semi-automatic weapons, and guns capable of firing more than one bullet without reloading? The courts would be happy to hide behind the Second Amendment by declaring that only a complete ban on firearms is unconstitutional. Having single shot firearms fills the requirement to allow private citizens to possess firearms. “Shall not be infringed” is obsolete due to the many “reasonable” (compelling government interests, less than strict scrutiny, tradition and history) restrictions. Thus, we are left with “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms…”

    I don’t think there has ever been a court holding that “…shall not be infringed…” is of any legal consideration. The courts always rule “…shall not be infringed, except for…”

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      do think that something pertaining to the status of semi-automatic arms is likely to make its way to the SCOTUS….eventually….

      1. avatar T. says:

        Where there is now a 4 to 4 margin with (traitor?) Roberts assuming Kennedy’s swing status. To “accommodate” Ginsberg he has practically moved the courts hearings into her living room.

  15. avatar Chris Morton says:

    NO, I REFUSE.

    Better think of something else.

    1. avatar JohnnyL says:

      This woman never ceases to amaze me and the only thing she carries about is staying in power. She will be 86 in June !!!

    2. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Jesus Christ, has DiFi ever not looked old… that was 25yrs ago and she looked haggered then.

      1. avatar Jerome from Layton says:

        Some of us called her “The Scarf” because she kept her throat covered all the time. Probably a thyroid issue that she got over since she doesn’t wear the neck wrappers much these days. The brain rot is still there.

  16. avatar Evan says:

    NRA’s on your list of groups to donate to. I guess you want the bill to pass….

    1. avatar Jamie in North Dakota says:

      SMH. People like you are just as pathetic as gun grabbing Democrats..

  17. avatar Parnell says:

    I can see the morons in Trenton, led by our clown of a Governor embracing this nonsense as the perfect solution to “gun violence ” in NJ. Of course our “leading lights” will conjure up an “assault pistol” description banning all semi-auto handguns and add that to this bill. It will be interesting to see how SCOTUS views this backhanded attempt to totally emasculate the 2nd Amendment.

    1. avatar zerofoo says:

      My only hope for NJ gun laws is that they become such egregious violations of the 2nd amendment that SCOTUS will eventually strike them down.

      Beyond that, there is no saving NJ. Our current governor flat out told voters he has a leftist agenda to make NJ more like California and that he was going to raise taxes to implement that agenda.

      NJ is willingly digging it’s own grave and will jump in with both feet.

  18. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    Well, now we have some cool new terms to use! Thanks Diane! Worried about assault weapons? Be very afraid of assault pistols. They are apparently only defined by weight, not any type of features or technology. A light weight poly AR pistol if it could beat the 50oz weight threshold would not be an assault pistol. A really heavy steel match pistol with optics and a match weight might in fact be.

    Ooo, assault pistol braces, if you put one on your assault pistol, it becomes a double assault! Insert an assault drum and you are one scary dude!

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Fortunately, my family banned assault many generations back, therefore for us there are only rifles and pistols, no “assault” anything, so I can simply ignore these laws.

    2. avatar rosignol says:

      A 6-shot Ruger Super Redhawk revolver weighs 58 oz with a 9-inch barrel.

      This would be an “Assault pistol”.

      Someone wake up the fudds and explain that the Dems are trying to classify large-caliber revolvers as ‘assault weapons’ now.

      1. avatar What about...? says:

        That’s right. Once the anti-2A gang bans all semiautos, they will come after double action revolving arms. This will include handguns, carbines and rifles. Once they figure out that 64% (2012) off all gun deaths are suicide, they will come after single shots.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “That’s right. Once the anti-2A gang bans all semiautos, they will come after double action revolving arms.”

          Simpler to ban all firearms with a pistol grip (a feature of “assault weapons”)

        2. avatar What about...? says:

          However, in WA State they classified ALL semiautomatics regardless of features (e.g., pistol grips, lugs, detachable magazines, muzzle brakes, etc.) and regardless of capacity and regardless of caliber (includes .22 rimfire) as “assault rifles.” ALL semiautomatic rifles are now “assault rifles” in WA state. Now that they have done that they are comping after ALL semiautomatics to BAN them all in WA State. Double action will later be considered the “new” semiautomatic action and it will be targeted as a “loophole” along with pump action that accept detachable magazines. They’re coming after ALL guns.

    3. avatar frank speak says:

      she’s still pissed about how some skirted the restrictions of the previous AWB….even Ruger may not be able to evade this one…

  19. avatar ark says:

    Jesus fucking christ. The House will pass this in 2018.

    1. avatar rosignol says:

      …but the Senate won’t, and President Trump wouldn’t sign it anyways. If the R’s lose the Senate, or Trump isn’t re-elected, 2021 might get iffy, but this thing will have expired by then.

      Introducing bills everyone knows are doomed is mostly about press releases and fundraising.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        Agree. What we really need to fear for the coming term would be an ex parte disarmament hearing bill, or a ban on private sales (with “adequate record keeping” for all legal sales, of course).

      2. avatar GS650G says:

        President Warren or Harris would sign it in a minute should a Democrat Congress send it.
        The mistake Zero made was healthcare first. He could have banned guns easier and faster.
        They won’t make the same mistake twice.
        Our only hope is RBG goes to her gingerbread house in the sky this year or next.

        1. avatar Jerome from Layton says:

          That would be “Notorious RBG” who might get to swear in Moochi Obama if things get really rotten.

  20. avatar ebvan says:

    Dear Senator Feinstein. Last year we saw hundreds of thousands of law-abiding citizens use firearms effectively in the defense of their lives and the lives of their loved ones. In most of these incidents no shots were fired at all. This is a very strong indication that law-abiding citizens use sound judgement when confronted with deadly force situations. In many of the aforementioned incidents, law-abiding citizens lives were saved by the very firearms you are attempting to ban. I urge you to stop advancing your specious ideology, which is endangering the very lives of the constituency you claim to protect.

  21. avatar WARFAB says:

    According to Gallup, ‘gun policy’ was the fifth most important issue going into the 2018 midterms that gave the Democrats control of the house. The fifth most important issue might be worth trying to handle, but it’s a fact that all the people who voted for it in Gallup polling surely don’t want more of it. Second amendment supporters are likely to vote for ‘gun policy’ as an important issue, possibly even more than second amendment opponents. The Democrats just can’t seem to resist shooting themselves in the foot over gun control and I’m fine with that assuming the never passes.

    Even if it does pass, American gun owners and the firearm market are totally different today than they were in 1994. Many gun owners are already used to ignoring state bans. I don’t see this working out how the Democrats would like if they manage to get it passed.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Well, yes, but “gun policy” includes both sides of the issue, it is important to me, for sure! That does not mean that “prohibiting firearms of some description” is desired by all those people.

  22. avatar Jlo says:

    Crazy. The thought that goes through my mind when I see all this banter about gun control is how no one talks about the warning signs of our societal regressions. Shouldn’t we all be more intelligent and responsible as a society with all this information at our fingertips and how convenient things have become?? Not! Instead we are faced with laws that want to strip our rights away and treat law abiding citizens as criminals. It blows my mind. Literally, on how far we’ve come and where we’re going. Not good gents, not good!!….ps. I’m new here.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Welcome! Wish you could have seen us back when!

      1. avatar Jlo says:

        Thank you! I’ve been reading these comments for a couple years and sit back and watch the “trends” and “climate” of my fellow firearm owners. We all need to band together as much as possible the way I see it. I’ve watched my state of Florida (native here) turn into a Masshole, NY, NJ, whore house. I’m done with it. It’s on a national level now.

  23. avatar Silentbrick says:

    New Bill:

    Violation of this new law by any politician results in immediate summary execution by any citizen if the politician does any of the following:

    1. Use sentences with more than 10 words.
    2. Has any of the following two words or any variation thereof – racism, homophobic, homophobic, Islamophobia, hates, nationalist, white, privilege, the phrase – “Pay their fair share” or “For the children”, extremist, dog whistle, alt-right, progressive, 97%.
    3. Accepts money from any foreign government.
    4. Proposes a bill more than 10 pages long.
    5. Is caught in any statement easily proven false by less than 5 minutes using google or duckduckgo.
    6. Is proven to have lied, to anyone, for any reason.
    7. Transfers any campaign money from the campaign to their own bank account.
    8. Proposes any new regulation without repealing 10.
    9. Refuses to affirm the 2nd Amendment forbids ANY infringement on a citizens right to own any weapon, excluding only nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction. (Chemical powered firearms or lasers will not be included in those categories.
    10. Invokes separation of church and state in any matter other than churches being officially endorsed or favored in a bill, a national religion being declared, or active church officials holding government office.
    11. All Congress critters and government employees will be subjected to random drug & alcohol testing no less than 10 times a year. Any positive result will mean instant summary execution.
    12. Members of the house may serve at most 6 terms, Senators may serve 2 in their lifetime. Judges will be appointed for 10 years.
    13. The public may nominate a total of 10 Congress critters every year. The ten will then be voted on and the top five will be executed by flamethrower on National Television. If nominated and not selected to die horribly for our entertainment, they may not be nominated next year.

    There…That would be my response to any gun bill proposed by anyone other than ones repealing laws.

  24. avatar former water walker says:

    Suddenly feel like stocking up on Pmags & 223/556😄😎😏

  25. avatar NY_VPC says:

    I don’t really see a big problem with this. No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer.

    1. avatar WARFAB says:

      The fact that you reminded me of Cuomo should mean you get some sort of punishment.

    2. avatar Liberal Warrior says:

      No one needs a single bullet, to kill a deer. What do U need to hunt for anyway. We have the supermarket now. If you want to eat meat so much then you can go stand in line at meat department at wal Mart like everyone else.

    3. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “I don’t really see a big problem with this. No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer.”

      Thinking that with my Beretta Neos .22 plinker, I would probably need a reload or two. A 30rd mag would be helpful.

    4. avatar frank speak says:

      how about a criminal?….or, worse yet….a group of them!….

  26. avatar possum says:

    I’m certainly glad my civilian model AK is not an assault weapon. I do not have a civilian model m16, if I had more money I’d buy some.. this may sound prophetic but I’m to old to go to jail, it would be a death sentence.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      they’re counting on the deterrent factor of that to elicit compliance…people who consider themselves law-abiding don’t understand they can always get you for something….

  27. avatar m. says:

    fart-stain & vietnam-veteran blumenthal 2 the rescue, making America safe 4 criminals @ every opportunity

  28. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Its coming down to the individual states. Which state will defy the federal government first on guns?
    California has already defied the federal government on illegal aliens. I think its time for the states to go there own way. No need for violence. Just leave the Union.

    In today’s world no one will fight to keep the Union together.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      Putin has to be smiling when he hears talk like that…..

      1. avatar doesky2 says:

        I think that there is easily >50% combined on both sides that hate each other enough that a divide of the U.S. would pass.

        And after the coming antics of the Democrats over the next 2 years occur that 50% criteria will EASILY be met.

        1. avatar T. says:

          Right! And when they destroy their half, Venezuela style, i’m sure they wouldn’t move like locust to the Red half. Nah! You can’t separate them from Red States any more than you can separate parts of you if you get a flu. Your only solution is to fight and defeat the illness.

    2. avatar UsedtobePun says:

      At least there’s one other sane person on this comment board.

      This is indeed the answer. But humans in general, and especially Americans, are too stupid and stubborn to accept it and move on.

  29. avatar what would spock say says:

    why aren’t we loudly challenging and branding adjustable stocks as a safety feature that allows humans of all sizes and genders to safely use the firearm? turn it back on them and ask why they are trying to oppress women, children, and small framed citizens. I never understood the adjustable stock=bad thing. to me it is only good, and by good, I also mean safer.

    1. avatar Andrew Lias says:

      Actually an ADA suit by people who are amputee vets for pistol braces would be amusing, as would short people who weren’t able to use a rifle as well due to ergonomics.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        the original argument for bump-stocks…and the obama administration agreed!….

    2. avatar Pg2 says:

      How many genders are you talking about….?

  30. avatar Andrew Lias says:

    It amuses me, they are talking about “sporting guns” again. I think this is a big screw up on our part. We should be arguing that anything with sporting purposes is less protected because those aren’t the primary function. As the left likes to point out so much, there’s that militia part. We have the guns to make the militia, that means that the constitution really protects a weapon suitable for such service more so than a hunting weapon.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      nothing in the 2nd amendment about hunting…amazing they continue to get away with this argument…hunting’s already on the decline…as is the sale of “traditional” weapons…everybody knows what sells these days…including the opposition….

  31. avatar strych9 says:

    Meh, another large pile of paper for the lower drawer in McConnell’s desk.

    Won’t even make it out of committee.

  32. avatar GS650G says:

    DiFi is old and cannot die soon enough. That’s the only way to get her out of the Senate so another anti gun pol can take her place.

  33. avatar Indiana Tom says:

    The more ridiculous the legislation, the less chance it has of actually passing.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “he more ridiculous the legislation, the less chance it has of actually passing.”

      Until January, 2021.

      Maybe everyone is overlooking the power of frustrated legislation. It builds momentum, arouses the faithful, engenders the desire for revenge, raises more funds. Eventually there is critical mass (which Republicrats are incompetent at achieving), and the dam breaks. It is how we got where we are.

      1. avatar Indiana Tom says:

        Gee…you actually act like there is areal grass roots demand for gun control when everyone knows it is all astroturf funded by global elites who want a new world order.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Gee…you actually act like there is areal grass roots demand for gun control when everyone knows it is all astroturf funded by global elites who want a new world order.”

          Are you claiming that it is the “global elites” who do the actual voting? If you define “grass roots” as voters, then, yes, the “global elites” are funding a grass roots movement. If you define “grass roots” as an ill-defined, unorganized, leaderless mob that suddenly emerges without obvious stimulus, then there is no grass roots movement.

          My point is that frustrated legislation is a significant rally post. The more frustrated the leaders cause their voters to be, the more it looks like an irresistible wave; better to get in front than be swamped. At that point, you have the committed joining the expedient.

          And the wave breaks.

          “Global elite” funding of political agendas does not remove the “grass roots”, the voters, from the equation. And to do the math for you, the 2016 and 2018 elections show that there are more voters supporting the Left than “the Right”. Think on that for a moment.

  34. avatar Rocketman says:

    An even better solution would be to expose these anti-gun dirtbags in the first place when they are trying to first get into office. Keep them out of positions of power.

  35. avatar Mountaineer says:

    THE LIBERALS and DEMOCRATS ARE NOW OFFICIALLY AN ORGANIZATION OF “THE NAZI PARTY”!!
    Here are 2 books to prove me right:
    GUN CONTROL in the THIRD REICH by Stephen P. Halbrook
    Gun Control in Nazi Occupied-France: Tyranny and Resistance by Stephen P. Halbrook
    Each of the overrun Countries formed and organized Resistance to the TYRANTS!
    The Liberals and Democrats have now become TYRANTS and Enemies of Freedom!
    I took an oath to defend the Constitution Of The United States against all enemies both Foreign and Domestic!!

  36. avatar OBOB says:

    Full Feinstein : ‘I don’t know’ of a gun law that could have stopped Las Vegas shooting

    Nuff said….you played yourself there Botch

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-feinstein-i-don-t-know-of-a-gun-law-that-could-have-stopped-las-vegas-shooting-1065414723790

  37. avatar Mountaineer says:

    Ladies and gentlemen: Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth. Remember, the Meek, not the Weak! The meek are at this moment not creating riots or harming anyone. They are watching current events and evaluating the situation. They are biding their time and when that time becomes intolerable and a threat to America….

  38. avatar neiowa says:

    Senile old shbat is no more relevant today that last week. Fundraiser.

    Contact you senator and ask why she has not been throw of Senate Judiciary for collusion, and lying to the committee during the Kavenaugh hearing. That would HURT her.

  39. avatar Griff says:

    Here’s something to think about. What would we do if this were to pass?

    1. avatar Ed Schrade says:

      Griff….. What did our founding fathers do when the British began their firearm confiscation here.

      1. avatar Sam I Am says:

        “Griff….. What did our founding fathers do when the British began their firearm confiscation here.”

        Too many believe the first civil war/revolution was launched and won by a rag tag, disorganized, untrained mob of gun owners. Reading about the early history of the country, one understands that organizations already existed to mount a rebellion, politicla leaders were visible and prominent. Though many patriots operated in secret, all the signers of the declaration, all the military leaders were well known to the populace (and to the royal governors). Look around. Are you depending on mobs to somehow overthrow a government? Not one successful revolution in history was a pure, unorganized grass roots uprising of the individual citizens/subjects. Even a revolution requires planning and provisioning. So far, all we have is a minor subset of 100 million gun owners crying “molon labe’.

    2. avatar Ross says:

      What Ed said ^

    3. avatar Sam I Am says:

      Here’s the model:
      – Bonus Army March
      – Waco
      – Ruby Ridge
      – Bundy 1&2

      What was the national result?

      Hint: giant shrug.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        the govt. knows we outnumber them…much like the british did in boston…it’s all a game of bluff and badger…and hoping we don’t get organized…

    4. avatar frank speak says:

      do your best to non-comply…knowing full well that some will be made examples of…sort of like prohibition….

  40. avatar Ed Schrade says:

    Any politician that wants to restrict or eliminate or restrict any of out rights provided by the constitution or bill of rights should be impeached and prosecuted for treason and or lying under oath. should be a felony.

  41. avatar Ross says:

    I just wonder how many of the posters here take the time to call their representative/senator (regardless of where they fall on the Second Amendment) and advocate for or against “gun” bills that get introduced? I called mine today and will call tomorrow and every day next week………………

    1. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

      My representatives are: Tom McClintock (Very pro 2A), Kamal Harris and Diane Feinstein. Only one of those actually represents me and the other two could care less how I feel about the 2A (because I do not live in Los Angeles or San Francisco, and that is who elected those two). I wrote Diane Feinstein once and I got the carbon copy curtesy letter that was obviously the same letter she sends out to everyone that writes her regardless of what they wrote about.

  42. avatar Chi_city says:

    Will Heller over rule this law? Since AR 15’s are in common use?

    Please run out and buy an AR or 3, give one to a friend.

    Cant wait to buy my feminist anti-gun wife a pink AR15 with a 100rnd mag clad with a Rosie the riveter decal !!…WE CAN DO IT!

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      maybe…AR-15 [and similar] owners are a large and growing group…even my congressman owns and shoots one…and he’s a dem!….

  43. avatar UncleK says:

    WTF is wrong with her anyway?

    1. avatar rosignol says:

      She found Harvey Milk’s body after he was murdered, and convinced herself that the gun was responsible, not the murderer.

      She’s been pushing this crap ever since.

  44. avatar Cadeyrn says:

    It’s not like I didn’t tell you this would happen. I gave you the link to 60 Minutes where she said on camera if she had the votes she would make everyone turn them in.

    Those of you who think there is still a fence upon which you may sit need to think about this: there’s no fence anymore. Those of you who use “but” in a sentence about your support for gun rights need to understand: there’s no more middle ground. The Democrats Will Take Our Guns. There is no more ambiguity, no wiggle room, no weaseling out. You are either perfectly okay with a Constitutional right not merely being infringed but shackled in chains of regulation and licensing… or you are not okay with that.

  45. avatar Blkojo says:

    It gets worse. Kamala Harris is running for president.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “It gets worse. Kamala Harris is running for president.”

      Such a campaign would be the end of Trump, the end of the Republicrats, the end of conservatism. Not because Harris is better for the country, or even a better administrator/executive. No, it would be the Obama syndrome all over again, with the added advantage of ticking two boxes on the righteousness list:
      color and sex. Obama could not be criticized because any and all criticism was de fact racism. How much more immunity would a black female accumulate? Any opposition to a future minority candidate would be insupportable, if not sinful.

      1. avatar Cadeyrn says:

        Harris is two kinds of Democrat base but five kinds of crazy. She won’t hold up on the national and international stage. That won’t stop her from trying, of course, but she’s not electable. It would be fantastic if the Dems tried to run her because she is one of the more beatable candidates.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “It would be fantastic if the Dems tried to run her because she is one of the more beatable candidates.”

          Beatable, based on what? Black female. Any adverse comment, action, thought, yard sign, email is racist hate speech. Hate speech is illegal. Obama was a political lightweight and he won on color alone. Obama would endorse Harris, loud and proud. Harris has a better resume, and an actual liberal loveable track record. Hilary won the popular, and she did not have the color advantage. Dismissing a Leftist candidate because you can blast apart every objective element of her history and campaign is a recipe for disaster…just like it was when dissing Obama as an amateur.

  46. avatar quix says:

    Part of the problem is that shooting is considered a white, male, christian and cisgender thing.

    The only way for the second ammendment to survive is to encourage new shooters … irrespective of gender, religion and sexual preferences.

    If you feel the urge to thump your bible – go do it in your church. If you want the second ammendment to survive – play nice and reach out to all law abiding citizens.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      It was encouraging to see…among the rather large turnout…some black faces at the Pittsburgh pro-gun rally…and I was equally impressed with how eloquently they spoke when interviewed on camera…we need to see more of that…drives the liberals crazy!….

  47. avatar Truckman says:

    anybody that votes for this bill should expect to lose next electionT

  48. avatar BluesMike says:

    Ban adjustable stocks so women (like my wife) can’t adjust the gun to fit her. SEXIST!!!

  49. avatar a word to the wise says:

    While this bill has no chance in hell of passing, the writing is on the wall of what will pass when the Democrats regain two branches of government.

    To those paying attention, you might want to make sure all future purchases are done through private sales, to avoid the inevitable database that Feinstein et al will produce when all 4473’s are digitized in the 2020’s, in order to avoid the mandatory buy-back in the 2030’s.

    Seriously, plan a decade or two ahead…

  50. avatar frank speak says:

    “plan a decade or two ahead”?…difficult to do for many of us…something they’re counting on…..

  51. avatar LibertyToad says:

    People need to wise up. The NRA isn’t perfect but it is the biggest with the most resources.

    There are a lot of Republicans I don’t like but when a general election come along, I still vote for them, because the Dems are worse.

    Just giving up is not a move that will translate into winning gentlemen.

    1. avatar Rincoln says:

      Not if you’re paying attention. The banks in NY have seriously crippled them financially. And the remaining funds? They go directly to the board members’ exorbitant salaries, not where we need it.

  52. avatar Anymouse says:

    The ignorance is deep. I like the trigger lock requirement on an AR-15, where the trigger guard can swing down and the lock be pushed off.

  53. avatar Rincoln says:

    Just became a life member of GOA (an actual civil rights org)

  54. Congress is limited to these powers.

    The Congress shall have power

    To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
    To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current coin of the United States;
    To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
    To provide and maintain a Navy;
    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And
    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

    a nationwide ban on assault weapons exceeds these powers.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “…a nationwide ban on assault weapons exceeds these powers.”

      Which limits do you find on “provide for…the general welfare”?

      A ban on “assault weapons” does not violate the constitution because it is not a complete ban on keeping and bearing arms. Banning assault weapons fits the power to provide for the general welfare because if it saves one life, it serves the public welfare. Indeed, a ban on every type of firearm that permits more than one shot without reloading is not denying the people the right to keep and bear arms. Denying and/or regulating a category of firearms is settled law, decided by the SC.

      Providing for the general welfare permits wide latitude in those things Congress can do in order to provide for that welfare.

  55. avatar philippes says:

    On the positive side, this bill is so absurd, and other bills recently passed in other states, so overreaching, it’s becoming inevitable that the Supreme Court is forced to visit assault rifle bans and rule them unconstitutional in what will become a “Heller Decision for Semi-Automatic Rifles.”

    Our Second Amendment has been a disfavored right for too long. SCOTUS has to visit these bans and rule on them as soon as possible.

  56. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    FYI for those that don’t know history. I was there in California when she turned in her hand gun in a big public show. Only AFTER she was attacked did Feinstein go back and get another gun.

    “Two years before the Milk and Moscone assassinations, the anticapitalist group New World Liberation Front planted a bomb in a flower box outside her daughter’s bedroom window. It failed to explode. The group also shot out windows at her vacation home.”

    “In response, Feinstein was trained by police to use a Smith & Wesson .38 five-shot revolver and obtained a permit to carry a concealed weapon.”

    Gun violence has defined Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s career. The issue is more important than ever for her now
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-feinstein-gun-control-20180328-story.html

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