Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

TTAG screen capture from Andy Ngo Twitter video clip.

On Saturday, a group of Americans held a pro-Constitution, pro-America rally in Seattle. In a surprise to no one, a number of Seattle’s Antifa leftists turned out in force to attempt to intimidate the patriots present for the rally. And the black-clad Antifa thugs brought open-carried firearms, including AR-15s to the event.

A Portland-based video journalist Andy Ngo covered the rally and the counter-demonstrators. For him, things grew heated pretty quickly.  As Ngo tried to cover the event, a number of Antifa folks unlawfully stopped him from approaching on the sidewalk and blocked his camera. Then a pair of openly armed Antifa members made it clear that Mr. Ngo would not pass.

Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

Just as in Portland, the Seattle police stood by and did next to nothing to protect the law-abiding from the Antifa members’ intimidation. Eventually, the police demanded Mr. Ngo leave or face arrest, claiming that his presence served to “incite conflict.”

 

 

Time and again, these black-clad and often-masked Antifa agitators claim to stand against fascism. The “anti-fascists” as they like to call themselves hate President Trump with a passion and call anyone who disagrees with them Nazis, neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Quite ironic that Mr. Ngo lives his life as an openly gay Asian male.

As we’ve seen time and time again, these “anti-fascists” do more than name-calling. They openly use classic fascist tactics themselves – specifically the threat of violence to suppress opposing viewpoints –  against those who disagree with them.

What’s more, Antifa threats have frequently proven to be more than just talk. In fact, Antifa’s violence has very frequently left their fellow Americans battered and bloody.

Antifa uses more than fists to attack freedom-loving Americans, too. Take Berkeley professor Eric Clanton, who used a bike lock to beat his opponents. So much for free and open academic discourse.

Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

The latest Seattle Antifa hooliganism didn’t stop with aggressive behavior while open carrying. Another Antifa member pictured below made ominous threats towards Mr. Ngo:  “I’m known to do this shit for real. Are you willing to die for Youtube [stuff]? …Death is coming to you.”

Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

Really.  Here it is on video…

Of course, Antifa members — like all Americans — have the right to keep and bear arms. But these black-clad masked fascists don’t come out to support their cause. Their goal is to intimidate, shout down and sometimes assault those with whom they disagree.

How long before someone on one side or another has a negligent discharge – or an intentional discharge at one of these rallies? I’ve written about how the violent left’s civil war continues to heat up. And how lefties have even formed a so-called Red Army in places.

Antifa Brings AR-15s To Seattle Counter Pro-Constitution Rally

It’s just a matter of time until America’s Civil War 2.0 becomes hot. Inadvertently or not.

Will you be ready for what comes after that? Will they?

comments

  1. avatar Jon in CO says:

    I feel bad for the rifle. Having such dipshit owners. Poor things deserve better homes.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      “If they mean to have war…let it begin here”…..

    2. avatar TX223 says:

      We are on the verge of a civil war. I see leftists at the shooting range, but also what I suspect are Chinese PLA (posing as students of course) practicing with AK’s and SKS’s at the range. It’s been interesting.
      They are preparing. However good/bad they are – irregulars can be trained and peasants with rifles are dangerous. We all agree guns are the great equalizer.
      If there is a communist revolution in the US, it will likely be assisted by Mexico (AMLO), Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc. Maybe even Russia/China/NK. Not to mention all the Communista’s we’ve imported over the years and those in the immigration waves now… mostly military age males.
      It wouldn’t be pretty.
      I suggest all patriots have a base preparedness, and not underestimate the enemy.
      Even a small unmenacing rattle snake has deadly venom.

      1. avatar Jimmy says:

        Well we are ready for them,,,,,, I dont think any of them can shoot,,, they dont like gunss, this will be a turky shoot

        1. avatar GDMF says:

          “Never underestimate your opponent.” — Sun Tzu

        2. avatar Phil Wilson says:

          Just because some of these latte sipping antifa posers fold at the first sign of serious resistance, don’t assume they all lack conviction. Not saying to back down, saying that if it comes to it you have to be all in. Be ready as you do everything you can to ensure it doesn’t come to that.

      2. avatar jbob says:

        I sure hope you’re wrong. As slowly eroding as our rights are we still have a democracy as F’d up as it is at the moment. An armed insurrection of any size in this country would be cause to call out the troops on American soil, suspend the constitution, suspend the free press and start rounding up anyone on the left, right or in the middle that would question the powers to be. While I’d be willing to give my life for my principles, I’d prefer we found a solution for fixing Washington that didn’t entail live ammunition.

      3. avatar Miner49er says:

        So you believe that elements of the Chinese people’s liberation Army our training at American public rifle ranges? This is beyond unhinged, and posting pure fantasy speculation searches this is exactly what gets weak minded people to act precipitously in their own ignorance.

        From Las Vegas to Sandyhook two Sunderland Texas, the biggest threat is crazy white guys with large capacity same automatic rifles.

        And I think history shows us that the most effective anti-fascist forces was the United States of America and her allies in 1941 through 1945 when they crushed the fascist forces of Nazi Germany and Tojo’s Japan.

        1. avatar Scoutino says:

          “From Las Vegas to Sandyhook two [sic] Sunderland Texas, the biggest threat is crazy white guys with large capacity same [sic] automatic rifles.”

          This is a lie. And you sir, are a dirty racist liar. There is one distinct section of the populace which murders and commits other violent crimes at rate totally disproportionate to its size. Can you guess which? Here’s a hint – it’s not white guys and they rarely use rifles, large capacity or otherwise.

          Mass murders with semi auto rifles (which are admittedly mostly commited by white guys) are overmedialized white crows that statistically don’t make a blip on the radar.

      4. avatar Duke says:

        Mixing the plotlines of original Red Dawn with that bullshit new version isn’t super cool bro.

    3. avatar George says:

      These Anitipuke members look real scary. Three seconds in Nam & they would be crying Mommy

      1. avatar John Newell says:

        Chris T in KY says:
        December 8, 2018 at 20:03
        “I remember when the white Liberals and the left supported the KKK ”

        What kind of moron thinks that the left ever supported the KKK?

        In the meantime the right supports the very violent Proud Boys, racists and separatists like the League of the South, out-and-out killers like Atomwaffen Division, and so forth. Here in Texas several “patriot” groups get most of their membership from groups like Soldiers of Odin, who proudly display their Hitler and Nazi tats. That’s the reality about the armed left and the armed right these days. Intel on the left is much, much better than what the right has, and the right are in denial that they are in bed with genuine nazis and people that proudly embrace fascism.

        1. avatar Kevin (the other one) says:

          ” right are in denial that they are in bed with genuine nazis and people that proudly embrace fascism”

          Lol…..REAL Nazi’s died off in 1945, when Germany lost the war. These guys are glorified LARP-ers, just like Antifa. No vision of their own, no mind of their own, they just follow the thoughts and mind set of a long gone group. Fascism is the shutting down of all opposing ideals by use of force…..Antifa is just as guilty of this as anyone else.

          “What kind of moron thinks that the left ever supported the KKK? ”

          Morons are the people who do not know, but claim that they do without any independent research. Right, left and center in American politics is a falsehood and generally meaningless terms. The KKK and the South were historically overwhelmingly democrat (and no they did not swap parties after the civil rights movement)…. Democrats are not “the Left” and Republicans are not “the Right” in political ideology………. it would be much easier to argue that republicans are the politically ideological left (liberalism) and that the democrats are the politically ideological right (progressivism). But that is not what the media has told you, so I am sure this kind of thought is very foreign to you.

          I am also guessing you probably don’t know the ideology of liberalism (Freedom, liberty, equality, limited government, citizen rule) vs Progressivism (Collectivism, Scientific rule, social inequality, economic equality, eugenics). Many republicans today embrace a liberal style of government while many democrats embrace a progressive style of government….but even that isn’t entirely true since there are progressive republicans and liberal democrats.

          Political Left vs Right spectrum (provided for educational purposes)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum

    4. avatar The Dude Abides says:

      Dude in the top picture has a scope condom on his optic. He can’t be that serious about using it.

  2. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

    Looks like more fake toy guns to me. The very top picture has a magazine that looks molded into the lower receiver…..maybe its a bad picture, but I am guessing they are fakes,

    1. avatar GunnyGene says:

      Fake or not, it still wasn’t smart. People with fake guns get killed all the time. But this isn’t about fake or real guns, is it. And next time they might be real and loaded.

    2. avatar Draven says:

      That’s just the video compression and blur

      1. avatar Kevin (the other one) says:

        Any clue what the carbine in the bottom picture is? The one with way long shoulder stock and a magazine in the pistol grip?

        I still think that is a fake AR and not just camera blur. I thought at first it could be just blur, but the more I look at it the more it looks fake.

        1. avatar Kevin (The Other one) says:

          lol…..”Welcome to the fold”

          That certainly wouldn’t be the firearm I bring to an armed conflict.

        2. avatar TheBruteSquad says:

          Keltec Sub-2000. Neat foldable mechanism and can be set up to take Glock mags or Beretta/CZ75/a few others depending on which version you get.

          Terrible trigger though.

        3. avatar rlverr says:

          It is a Keltec Sub 2000. You need to familiarize yourself with more firearms

        4. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

          “It is a Keltec Sub 2000. You need to familiarize yourself with more firearms”

          Yeah, you are right….I do not know my Keltec firearms very well……I tend to follow the military types more, and even those I am not the greatest with

        5. avatar CZ Rider says:

          The S2K is less of a rifle to go to war with and more a rifle to have in case the war comes to you. I keep one as a backup to my CCW pistol along with a couple of 20 and 30 round mags that either can use in a pinch. The whole kit will fit nicely in your average laptop backpack, and I’ve taken it on plenty of trips without getting a second look from anyone.

          What I really wish they’d do, though, is release a version of the PLR-16 with a side-folding brace or something. That would be a lot of capability in a tiny package.

        6. avatar barnbwt says:

          Kevin, that “cheesy subgun” can be folded up and stored in a hoodie jacket. It is precisely the type of weapon to be wary of in the hands of violent radicals. It’ll reach out a lot further than a handgun.

        7. avatar Keith Pallo says:

          It is a Kel Tek 2000 9mm. If there is a loaded mag in that gun it is a violation of Seattle’s new Gun Control laws!!! It is a semi-auto gun and may have a mag with more that 10 rounds in it yet the cops do nothing and I have to ask why? Are they in league with Antifa and waiting fr one of these idiots to have a negligent discharge before shooting the conservatives? Not one attempt to disarm or send one of these counterdemonstrators home as long as they are armed. The cops want gunfire.

      2. avatar Hannibal says:

        I don’t think so. There’s enough definition in other places. The rifle really just looks molded. Airsoft guns are cheaper than real ones and it’s not the first time some wanna be revolutionary has carried one trying to playact.

    3. avatar frank speak says:

      probably…just like them…

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        if it’s fake shouldn’t it have the legally required orange tip?….

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          The orange tip is required of the seller. The buyer can then paint it black or white or gold/purple stripes at his leisure.

  3. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    ‘How long before someone on one side or another has a negligent discharge – or an intentional discharge at one of these rallies?’

    Let’s hope that this ‘negligent discharge’ comes from an M240 in the direction of Anti-fa from an elevated position and lasts for about 30-45 seconds.

    1. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

      I think that is what they are hoping for….why else bring fake guns?

      That top picture of an AR looks very fake. Mag and mag well are one piece, solid Upper/lower receiver, and no sign of a bolt or dust cover…… I have a real hard time believing that is a real gun

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Possibly. Still, they’re commies and commies need to be exterminated like plague infested rats.

        1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

          “…and commies need to be exterminated like plague infested rats.”

          The Gov. has metamorphosed into TTAG’s own Serge… 🙂

          Gov! Gov! Gov!

          *snicker* 😉

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah… It’s hard to have an appropriate hatred for commies until after they killed half your family. Just remember what November 24th signifies. It’s the reason why commies make actual Waffen SS look like boy scouts.

        3. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          Hmm… seems the TTAG moderators have a soft spot for communism.

        4. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

          “Yeah… It’s hard to have an appropriate hatred for commies until after they killed half your family.”

          *Sigh*

          Serge, I was happy to evidence that the Gov. had “Come around to the right kind of thinking…”

        5. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          I was right thinking all along, you just didn’t know it.

        6. avatar Geoff "Kill a Commie for Mommy" PR says:

          “Hmm… seems the TTAG moderators have a soft spot for communism.”

          What you mean, Gov.?

        7. To answer the Govs last comment about “moderators.” For some unknown and unusual reason…The 1st time ever while posting to TTAG… I received a “Awaiting moderation disclaimer on my attempted posting…?”

        8. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          I had a comment go down the wormhole. Apparently somebody doesn’t approve of killing commies.

        9. avatar John wayne says:

          Spoken like a true commie facist.

      2. avatar strych9 says:

        “…and no sign of a bolt or dust cover…”

        Well, unless it’s a left-handed model AR you’re looking at the wrong side of the gun to see the dust cover or the bolt (if the cover is open)…

        …and considering that it’s a blurry-as-fuck screen grab from a video I see no reason to believe that your other comments on the mag/mag well or the upper/lower are correct. Considering how the bolt release and the charging handle look I would assume it to be a very real gun.

        1. avatar ‘liljoe says:

          No takedown pin or pivot pin

        2. avatar CZ Rider says:

          It was mentioned above, but it’s actually a Kel Tec Sub 2000. Little 9mm/.40 carbine that takes common pistol mags and folds in half for storage. Looks kind of silly, but I wouldn’t want to be on the other end of one.

        3. avatar ‘liljoe says:

          Cx commenting on the AR pattern rifle, not the sub2000.

          If you look where the magazine well comes up to the barrel/shroud/shoulderthingthatgoesup … I don’t see a pivot pin, may be the quality of the photo. But also the takedown pin seems missing. Betting it’s an airsoft gun.

        4. avatar strych9 says:

          liljoe:

          I’m looking at the picture and I see a pivot pin in the indent just above the A shaped part of the lower. I also see a bolt release switch, mag catch and a legit looking charging handle. I, like you, note the lack of a takedown pin but I assume I just can’t see it the same way the mag looks odd.

          The whole photo is blurry because it’s 1) a screengrab, 2) a screengrab of motion and 3) either a low rez picture to make the file small or a screengrab of a relatively low quality video. That makes it difficult to tell exactly what that thing is.

          Either way, I assume the gun to be real until I know for sure that it is not. That goes for pictures like this as well as real life encounters.

        5. avatar LarryinTX says:

          AR is funny looking, but I’m at least partially convinced by the elastic on the scope covers. The buttstock, especially, doesn’t look right to me.

      3. avatar Pete Jepsen says:

        Its an air-soft. I have one, an M4. No rear take-down pin BUT you can see the allen screw that sits way lower than the rear take-down pin on a real AR, also front pivot pin is the same allen screw. Also, note the safety switch in some weird position and no separation line between the upper and lower. Hope he doesn’t try to “Really” use it, could end up at room temp.

    2. avatar RWE says:

      Oddly, I was thinking along the same lines! (regarding a negligent discharge into the antifa crowd)

      Boils my blood that the police would make a reporter leave when armed thugs wearing the hammer and sickle get a pass in the United States of America. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside having served this country seeing this happen here.

      1. avatar TheBruteSquad says:

        There already was a negligent dis-Challenger at one event and it didn’t stop them.

      2. avatar balais says:

        Fuck the police. If you think they were ever on the side of liberty, you are mistaken. They will do exactly as they are told, just like they will do as they’re told if the new People’s government demands they go door to door to sniff out kulaks. Again.

        1. avatar frank speak says:

          sometimes the cops are on your side….sometimes they’re not….

      3. avatar Miner49er says:

        Excellent post, the hatred and anti-freedom opinions expressed here are sure to help Decent folk vote for more gun control to make sure that individuals such as yourself do not have access to large capacity semi automatic rifles.

        And using an automobile as a deadly weapon to kill and maim citizens exercising their first amendment rights is not patriotic, it’s domestic terrorism.

        1. avatar Scoutino says:

          You must be delusional. More gun control will make sure that individuals such as us do not have access to large capacity semi automatic rifles?Where and when did ban on an item ever prevented access to said item?

    3. avatar frank speak says:

      anyone checking to see if the holder is 21?….

      1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

        did he buy it at the rally?

  4. avatar daveinwyo says:

    Open war in the cities. Antifa, BAMN, BLM, Hispanic agitators all trying to shout down “normal” Americans. One round started WW I. One round. I can see a creep shooting someone and then return fire then …..THE END
    Reference; see France.

    1. avatar travis m. says:

      Oh no, it’s like the black panthers again, we’ll need to ban open carry because at these events (where no one gets hurt) there are scary protesters with guns. Guns are so dangerous that the street ran red with blood! Let’s have mandatory registration of guns to deny these scary leftists the right to bear arms! It’s for the children! I support the 2nd amendment but…

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        another possible outcome…perhaps it’s what they desire….

      2. avatar CZJay says:

        They will need people with darker complexion for that.

        1. avatar CC says:

          Plenty of BLM members open carrying at several BLM events in jurisdictions that allow open carry. No hassle from cops for doing so. Lighter complexion people are more likely to get hassled

      3. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        I don’t see much of that here, and I personally don’t have any issues with them being armed. The issue is that they are using threats of violence to silence political opponents. It’s the people, not the tools they carry. But, yes, if anything happens I assume many people will use that as a pretext to disarm the public.

  5. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

    That does look like a plastic fake AR, all of the parts seem to run into one another, trying to see if there are any actual controls on that thing.

    I just did a quick look at the Seattle Times, and a Google search for any media coverage. No mention whatsoever of any protests over the weekend. Assuming that it did indeed happen, the silence is interesting And sadly predictable in Seattle.

      1. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

        I own a Sub2k. Great little foldable.

        The AR pattern rifle just looks…off a bit

  6. avatar Rocketman says:

    I can’t believe that the mayor and police are doing NOTHING to control these ANTIFA thugs. The citizens need to start an on line petition to remove the mayor and police chief.

    1. avatar Roger says:

      The citizens of Seattle support antifa. They wouldnt sign a petition against them or the commie mayor.

      1. avatar CZJay says:

        And they support gun control for certain people.

  7. avatar Cruzo1981 says:

    Looks like Al Qaeda in the USA. What a shame, to hide your face when you think “you’re right”, should let you know something.

  8. avatar ANG Pilot says:

    You’re kidding yourself if you think some these people don’t know how to use firearms. The US military is a reflection of our society as a whole and there are more left wingers who have served than you might think. Just look at the recent case of Lt Spenser Rapone, he was a Ranger before he got to West Point and he’s not the only one, as his Facebook page showed.

    Our side has been blamed for instigating violence for just showing up, just like the cop in this story did. But it’s been the Antifa crowd that has actually been willing to use disproportionate force and violence on anyone who dares to disagree with them.

    They ARE willing to kill us. It’s just a matter of them having the right opportunity.

    1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

      For those who don’t know who Lt Spenser Rapone is, er, *was* :

      “‘Commie Cadet’ sends vulgar message on his way out of the Army”

      https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/06/19/commie-cadet-sends-vulgar-message-on-his-way-out-of-the-army/

      1. avatar Jeremy S. says:

        ANG Pilot, considering the dude in the lead photo is carrying his gun upside down, I’ll take my chances.

        1. avatar Dan in Detroit says:

          Last carbine course I took had us do this for transition to sidearm. It’s actually a good way to sling it if you need access to your sidearm/belt/etc because it clears your feet and doesn’t get tangled in your legs.
          YOUR feet, YOUR legs.
          The feet and legs of of the people on his left and immediately behind him are in the line of fire though.

        2. avatar Matt says:

          That makes no sense… you can sling the gun right side up in the same position and have it at hand. There is no reason to flip it over.

        3. avatar Wade says:

          I’ve been waiting for one of our War Analysts to notice the rifle was slung to the right but orientated for a left handed shooter. This tells me that the guy in the photo has never carried a rifle at all and probably has spent little time shooting one.

        4. avatar ANG Pilot says:

          None of us has any idea who this guy is or what level of competence he has. It’s dangerous to underestimate your enemy. That doesn’t mean to make your enemy bigger and stronger than he really is, just don’t underestimate his competence.

          Israeli fighter pilots are pretty damned good. They’re taught, going into a fight, to regard their opponent as the best fighter pilot in the world.

          It’s not bad advice for our side to follow, too.

        5. avatar Jeremy S. says:

          Dan in Detroit that’s not what I mean. Like Matt said, I wasn’t speaking of the muzzle direction — the angle of the rifle and the position on his body is just fine — but of flipping the gun over. Basically, the gun should still be going down and across his body just like it is but we should be seeing the right side (ejection port side) of it, not the left side. His sling is coming over his right shoulder, so he’s going to be shooting it off his right shoulder, but the grip is pointing to his left side instead of toward his right. Gun needs to be flipped over so its left side is against his body.

    2. avatar GS650G says:

      Firearms are easy to use. And when your opponents are disarmed it’s easy to do harm.

      When facing armed opposition is when the testicles either drop or fall off.
      Police have taken the antifa side too many times. If the authorities don’t pick a side they have a problem

      1. avatar rosignol says:

        Police take orders from the Chief, the Chief takes orders from the Mayor.

        The Mayor in Seattle is a leftist, so Antifa acts with near impunity.

        They only pull this crap in places they have protection from the powers-that-be.

    3. avatar New Continental Army says:

      There’s no doubt some of them are quite capable. Look at the antifa hero in Dallas who murdered 5 cops as a perfect example. But I do doubt they have a depth of such talent. As a prolonged war drags on, their star aces will dwindle, the ones behind them won’t be nearly as effective. Similar to what happened to the Vermacht and Lufftwaffe. The nature of leftist militant groups also typically leads them to suffer high causalities. They view war like Nazis or ISIS view war, trying to rapidly expand and sacrifice everything in the name of the state. It burns hot, but burns big, and fast. Also, I have a feeling when those antifa kids get out of the cities, and have to slug it out in the sticks, they won’t do so hot.

      1. avatar rt66paul says:

        They won’t do so hot in the cities, either. These idiots are together because of hatred, but do they have a true cause? NFW! They could win a few battles in the inner cities and would then fight amongst themselves over the meager spoils.
        This bunch isn’t even a pack of animals, they don’t have the single mindedness to be a single pack.

    4. avatar Buff cousin Elroy says:

      They’re there, but their numbers are minuscule. For every commie faggot in the US military there are 250 enlisted, real patriots. The ratio is probably even greater than that…

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Still, there’s something bad wrong, here. I was commissioned through OTS in 1969, and I can’t help being absolutely convinced this dipshit would have never been commissioned in that time, probably would have been kicked out of West Point in under a year. Or beaten to death.

    5. avatar Ash says:

      A Ranger who was RFS’d almost as quickly as he hit the doors. That’s not to say that liberals don’t exist, there are plenty of Special Operations veterans whose politics skew to the left, but most of them are still patriots. Comrade Che, however, is a typical wannabe communist. Limp in the wrist and weak in the mind.

      1. avatar jbob says:

        You can most certainly be a liberal and a staunch supporter of the constitution. Now defining yourself as a progressive pretty much negates any belief in the constitution.

  9. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    Antifa can only be stopped by strategically blockading Starbucks and Apple stores, cutoff from their supplies they will be forced to surrender.

    1. avatar Kevin (The Other one) says:

      Without free wifi their movement will crumble

      1. avatar CZJay says:

        They will get reinforcements from Google.

  10. avatar Joe says:

    I for one, welcome the impending Civil War 2.0

    The herd could use a little thinning. Time to convert the 401k to shotgun shells.

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      “I for one, welcome the impending Civil War 2.0”

      Nominated for “Ridiculous Post of the Day”.

      1. avatar JD says:

        No, not really..

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          No, really.

        2. avatar Sheepdog6 says:

          While I don’t relish a Civil War at all, if it is going to happen, and I think it is a when thing, not an if thing, then I want to fight it and not leave it up to my three kids to do it later.

      2. avatar 16V says:

        strych 9, Is that sentiment really so ‘ridiculous’?

        These are the dying days of Rome, is it not time for some to acknowledge the Visigoths for what they truly are? Is it not time to see the fallacy of “history” pretending that Joe McCarthy didn’t have any valid point? ‘Cultural Diversity’ has ever worked where again?

        These ass-clowns are well on their way to doing everything Pol Pot ever wanted from a brainless youth-tool. In word and deed, they have demonstrated the desire to execute their manifesto. Are you ready for your “re-education” (if you’re lucky enough to do it alive)?

        I have no desire for war, but my family has fought (and sometimes died) for this Great Idea since before the official beginning. I’d personally rather do it now than later.

        Die on your feet and all that….

        1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

          There are worse fates than a violent death fighting for what you believe in. Not something I would seek out, though, and something definitely to be avoided if possible.

        2. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Ya, “make the other poor bastard die for *his* country!”

        3. avatar Phil Wilson says:

          @Larry: Yep, once the gloves come off that’s how you win. At this point, though, I think it’s best to focus on what we are really talking about when we are talking civil war. No matter how it comes out, the cost will be hideous.

      3. avatar doesky2 says:

        Yep, let’s get this national divorce over with.

        We are no longer a country with the same goals with two parties that have different ideas of how to get there.

        No today there are two halves of a country going in opposite directions.
        The Right wants tha same goals the the country had 50,100, 200 years ago.
        The Left wants a 180 from that and go down the path that has been well traveled by fascists and tyrants.

        Let’s settle this soone rthan later.
        It’s now either they win or we win. There is no win-win possible.

        And what are those classic American ideals?
        Of coarse Prager to the rescue.

        1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

          I fear a divorce, hopefully as bloodless as possible, is probably the best option at this point. As bad as it would be.

    2. avatar Jando says:

      You’ll get spanked and you’ll cry.

  11. avatar Shire-man says:

    Sorry but you Jews are inciting conflict by being here in Germany. You’ll have to move along.

    So in these cities are the cops “just following orders” or are they being lazy sacks by choosing the path of least resistance even if it’s the wrong path?

    1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

      “So in these cities are the cops “just following orders” or are they being lazy sacks by choosing the path of least resistance even if it’s the wrong path?”

      They know what will happen to them if they are seen as sympathetic to conservative politics…

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        don’t want to risk those pensions!….

      2. avatar HRD says:

        And what will happen to them exactly?

    2. avatar JasonM says:

      The progressives have destroyed the Seattle PD. They can’t enforce the laws if the suspect is a homeless person or minority. The competent officers are moving to the suburban agencies.

    3. avatar TheBruteSquad says:

      Cops do what the person who signs their checks tells them. If they’re asked to pull gold teeth they will pull gold teeth.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        Not being a cop, I can’t claim any special insight here. I keep hearing a number of LEOs say that many if not most will refuse to turn against the public. I want to believe that. But history is on your side.

        1. avatar TheBruteSquad says:

          Go to any cop forum and ask if whether police obeying confiscation orders are doing the right thing. You will get banned immediately.

    4. avatar CZJay says:

      Notice how it’s the lieutenant that is telling the press that he is inciting conflict and that his men will physically remove him for exercising his human/civil rights. This is what I talk about when it comes to the police. It’s the leadership that breads bad departments that can get away with (literally) murder.

      I wonder where these wonderful white cops get their behaviors from:

      Yeah, they beat an undercover cop because he was black. They wanted to go after some coloreds before they had a reason to. Got to find them some “thugs” to beat. Get some!

      Now what are they thinking when it comes to gun owners? I have heard them say some treasonous stuff… Of course it’s not all of them, just some of the leadership.

      1. avatar HRD says:

        Do you even read the articles or do you just post random stuffs just to get attention? Also, I’d like to know why you hate cops so bad, did she leave you for a cop? Did you get in trouble for speeding or driving under the influence (I know, it wasn’t really your fault)…..What happened?

      2. avatar pwrserge says:

        Yeah, how dare the cops deal with domestic terrorists harshly?

        1. avatar CZJay says:

          What terrorist do you speak of? The Asian guy filming Antifa? The black undercover detective they beat for some fun? The 2A guys that like to open carry?

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          The ganbangers “protesting” when one of their homies gets what he had coming to him.

        3. avatar CZJay says:

          You need to go inform yourself of the case because I don’t think you are cool with cops conspiring to infringe on people’s rights and trying to cover it up after the fact.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          I know enough about that bullshit to know that for 1 real case there are 99 fake ones. If you want me to start caring about the real ones, maybe stop pushing the fakes? The case of Mike Brown basically guaranteed that I don’t give a shit anymore.

  12. avatar jsled says:

    > pro-Constitution, pro-America rally

    > Liberty or Death 2: Rally Against Left-wing Media Bias

    Wow. Such pro-Constitution. Much pro-America.

    The people rallying against the draped-in-the-flag fascists have just as much right to be armed as the neo-nazis and fascists … who are, you know, actually the bad guys here.

    But none of you assholes actually has principles, just tribal affiliations.

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      Maybe it’s time to learn to read. The article specifically says “Of course, Antifa members — like all Americans — have the right to keep and bear arms.” And I’m pretty sure somebody rallying to support the Constitution is not a fascist, since a limited government constitution is the true anti-fascism.

      The people you think are the good guys are carrying flags from the USSR. The USSR was the second most violent and deadly nation in human history, second only to its spawn, the PRC. Someone waving a Soviet flag is just as bad as someone waving a Nazi flag.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        +1000. The sole of one jackboot looks much like another.

      2. avatar Scoutino says:

        Worse. Counting victims murdered by its own government, not even in the same league.

    2. avatar GS650G says:

      Pretty tough talk there keyboard commando. What’s jsled stand for? Just Sulking Like Every Democrat

    3. avatar david n says:

      You wouldn’t know what a fascist was if they got in your face and beat the shit out of you.

    4. avatar pwrserge says:

      Yeah… neo-nazis and fascists didn’t starve 20 million people to death in just 2 years.

    5. avatar Phil Wilson says:

      ANTIFA, historically speaking, was nothing more than a rival gang of collectivist authoritarian thugs. If you went after actual fascists, I wouldn’t care (I couldn’t actually condone it, because I’m not an anarchist, but I’d be quietly pleased with each antifa and or/nazi skull busted. But the issue is that ANTIFA isn’t going against rival collectivist authoritarians right now, except in your own twisted minds.

    6. avatar int19h says:

      It’s okay, these guys are exactly why we liberals also have “assault weapons” these days, and know how to use them.

      I especially love it that all this neo-Nazi sсum think that we’re unarmed. That’s going to cost them if push comes to shove. I hope they won’t learn too fast, either – then again, when you read the comments here, you know they are not exactly fast learners.

  13. avatar Mark says:

    I live in WA and I think the megaquake will be a blessing if it wipes Seattle off the map. Hopefully it takes Portland with it as well.

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      We need to set up some artillery batteries on the east side of Lake Washington and mine the 520 and I-90 bridges.

      1. avatar Buff cousin Elroy says:

        Agreed lol. I’m an eastside dweller. There is nothing I like about having to travel into that city.

      2. avatar SadDayForWA says:

        Then the bastards will try to come through Renton. Mortars?

    2. avatar jbob says:

      I’d agree with you wholeheartedly but I have dear friends that live there. It’s amazing how fast the decline of Seattle has come, but it goes hand in hand with Amazon moving in and the completion of S. Lake Union.

      1. avatar RidgeRunner says:

        Yeah, but they’re getting an NHL hockey team.

  14. avatar strych9 says:

    I’m not terribly concerned about the OC of the rifle until I see the way he’s wearing his plate carrier… then I start to get nervous that this idiot knows nothing about the tools he’s chosen.

    1. avatar CZ Rider says:

      Probably just keeping his lunch in the pocket where the armor’s supposed to go. That bottom picture got me though – I feel like carrying rifles like those without any readily accessible spare mags just shows that you aren’t serious about your own message and just wanted a scary prop. When the Revolution comes, methinks you’d want more than one mag for your rifle…

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        Fair points. I doubt they have any intention of actually using anything but maybe they’re just stupid.

        Sometimes it’s hard to tell. For example; the guys on YouTube who invest a ton in a plate carrier and plates and pouches and shit then talk about how uber-tactical it is to have a single IFAK on their back… where they can’t reach it without taking off their whole plate carrier system.

        Cause, you know, you’d never need to patch a hole in yourself while cut off from your friends or maybe patch up your buddy who doesn’t have an IFAK or who’s IFAK has been lost. That shit, like, never happens brah!

        On the topic of the guy pictured in this article… I don’t know what he’s doing in terms of tactical sandwich pouches but he obviously needs some instruction on how armor is supposed to cover your vital organs and not be super loose.

        1. avatar CZ Rider says:

          Probably figured it was cool to wear your backpack all low and loose in middle school so that must be how these things work too. That or it’s like a video game and you get +100 bullet resistance for having it on.

        2. avatar strych9 says:

          Hahahahahaha! 100+ bullet resistance. Love it.

  15. avatar GS650G says:

    Maybe Seattle let’s these kiddies get away with this shit but when they branch out to other cities it will get real.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      This all came from California. It spread to Oregon then Washington and Colorado. You losing, bro.

  16. avatar possum says:

    Spencer Ramone, wow. Hidden signs, clenched fist, out of uniform, middle finger. Lordy shit storm what’s that smell? and here I thought scratching FTA ( yes I’ve had my moments of malcontent) hidden on my bunk was pushing it.

  17. avatar Ing says:

    Fezzik said it best in The Princess Bride: People in masks make great targets.

  18. avatar Stateisevil says:

    I wouldn’t worry. Boch said HPA and reciprocity would be law in 2017

  19. avatar jwm says:

    The fascists now run Seattle. And they mistreat gay men in the streets. Just a matter of time til they have a ‘crystal night’.

  20. avatar Michael says:

    Looks like we definitely have got us some toothpaste that is not gonna get put back in the tube by anyone, anytime soon. Frightening stuff. -30-

  21. avatar Michael Buley says:

    I live north of Seattle. I didn’t realize I could carry my AR-15 around with me in the open. I know WA state is an open carry state. I guess I hadn’t realized just what freedoms I have. Hmmm. Walk the dogs with my AR-15. Go to the grocery store … Starbucks … Post Office, AR-15 strapped on. Hmm. Wow. New opportunities my eyes have been opened to, thanks to Antifa.

    Hell, maybe that’s what we need to start doing. Carry our fucking AR-15’s with us everywhere.

    Love the fucking cops. Like in Portland, they just watch these scum harass people, break windows, etc. Who’s side is ‘the law’ on? At least up here, I wouldn’t want to count of them defending my rights. Looks like they’re waiting for ‘the good guys’ to do anything to defend themselves, and they’ll green light Antifa doing what they do. And yes, Antifa will kill. Communists place zero value on anyone’s life.

    1. avatar Ed Schrade says:

      Have an antifa mask on or you will probably get arrested. Let these bastards come to small town rural America and try their intimidation tactics.

      1. avatar JF says:

        They don’t need to go to rural America. They have the medias and public schools, and they are figuring out how to commit massive voter frauds. What has been done about the recent sh*tshow in FL? NOTHING! They will steal elections count on it. They have the house, and on the other hand you have way too many RINO and swamp creatures, dang even POTUS loves to pick people from the swamp for his administration.

        1. avatar Deez Nuts says:

          You mean the FL elections that the GOP won?

    2. avatar SkorpionFan says:

      I don’t recommend open-carrying an AR-15 in Post Office parking lot or buildings. Even leaving your firearm in your locked vehicle in their parking lot is forbidden.

      The Code of Federal Regulations 39 CFR 232.1 “Conduct on Postal Property” says
      “…no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.”

    3. avatar CZJay says:

      They are just following orders.

  22. avatar balais says:

    My kukri is sharp and my rifle is accurate.

    To the idiots wanting a do over: be careful what you wish for. My ilk won’t start it, but we will finish it decisively and thoroughly.

  23. avatar Shwiggie says:

    That town needs an enema.

    1. avatar M1Lou says:

      It’s only a matter of time until they will need a poop patrol like SF and Portland.

    2. avatar Jettt says:

      Earthquake + Puget sound…..

      Just a matter of time, they’ll get a huge enema.

  24. avatar CZJay says:

    They have been harassing Andy for awhile now. They call him a race traitor and a supporter of white supremacy. Ironically, it’s mostly white people who are the ones chastising him for not being on the right side. They always try to intimidate him or hurt him to get him to stop filming them and posting videos. He was also fired for his work. They think they can pick on the small Asian guy.

    At one of the protests in Washington an Antifa guy attacked someone and was shot in the torso.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJGhZdmg1b0

    There was a claim that an Antifa guy choked an old man to death In New York, but he was brought back to life after some CPR.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1AP7ek6aXY

    So there has been blood and death already. Also, there was Charlottesville and the assassination attempt on Republicans playing baseball.

    Keep in mind that Antifa intentionally does not claim to be an organization or have any leader because they don’t want the government to be able to charge them under RICO. Right now NY is charging a bunch of Proud Boys claiming they are part of some organized white supremacist group. Antifa of NY was not charged although they started the fight with the Proud Boys (of which they now face felonies for).

    The leftists are much smarter than you want to give them credit for.

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      somehow I think we’re being “played”….

      1. avatar former water walker says:

        No doubt…to us old guy’s(I’m nearly 65) it brings back memories of the 60’s and 70’s. And the leftards are puzzies at heart. Who has(a lot) more guns?!?

    2. avatar rt66paul says:

      They might think they are smarter, but I am sure that Homeland Security has dossiers on most, if not all of the rabble rousers in masks. They have cameras from many different positions and catch every mask slip and face wipe they make. While they aren’t being rounded up as of yet, this could change quickly.

      Not that I support that type of action from my government, but I am aware they are doing so.

      1. avatar CZJay says:

        There are rumors, or fake news, that the FBI is corrupt and targeting people like the Proud Boys instead of Antifa. Don’t forget what they did in Oregon and Parkland.

        1. avatar Jettt says:

          The truth is out there

          Bwahahaha, you are hilarious! “they” are coming for you!

        2. avatar CZJay says:

          So you didn’t see the press conference where the government said a FBI agent shot at Lavoy’s truck when he was not supposed to, removed his casing [evidence] from the scene and lied about what he did? Now he faces charges…

          You didn’t see the press conference where the FBI said they knew the Parkland shooting was going to happen, but they failed to follow their own policy/protocol to inform the local office to investigate it? They said they had at least 2 warning, one was detailed. They knew who he was. Instead of doing anything they let it happen and simply apologized for their dereliction in a press conference.

          You missed the news where there was a few FBI agents investigating Trump that wanted to stop him from getting elected or to get him impeached whilst deciding not to work on Hillary’s criminal case and predetermining her innocence? You don’t remember the FBI director leaking stuff to the press and pretending like he wasn’t bias?

          No one is coming after me because I haven’t committed a crime and I am not important.

    3. avatar Scoutino says:

      “There was a claim that an Antifa guy choked an old man to death In New York, but he was brought back to life…
      So there has been blood and death already.”

      So the old man was only ‘mostly dead’?

  25. avatar Salty Bear says:

    I think cops should all have to wear red coats.

    1. avatar Festus says:

      ALL

      1 cop in Seattle said….

      And as a result ALL cops should have to wear red coats….

      You are a genius!

  26. avatar Noble Savage says:

    Can we quit screwing around and get this civil war 2.0 started already !!

    I aint getting younger

  27. avatar million says:

    Nice victim blaming by the cops there in Seattle.

  28. avatar Andrew Lias says:

    The libs need to understand that they need to get the stomach to deal with these people and that if they think they’re on “their side” they’re dead wrong. Nothing good will come of these people forcing out the press with force, nor will any good come of them being allowed to beat people. Selective enforcement of the law is incredibly dangerous to stability.

  29. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    Ironic or Moronic, the Fascist Antifas protesting the document and country where they have the right to arms.

  30. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    Counter Pro-Constitution Rally, demonstrating the value of free speech, free assembly, petition for redress, and now 2A.

    I don’t think they thought that through

  31. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    “Assault” and “Brandishing” are crimes. It’s interesting how the crazy tooled-up gun nuts comport themselves, compared to the right thinking true believers.

    Myself, I’d be way more comfortable surrounded by 2A supporters with their ARs, than w/in a block of one of those masked monkeys with a bike lock.

    Based empirically on what they’ve done with the tools.

  32. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    Bike lock-guy: demonstrate why people should carry guns for self-defense, while objecting to the kind of people who carry guns for self-defense.

  33. avatar Ark says:

    If their people win, won’t the government take those guns away?

    File a red flag order on all of them. They clearly represent a danger.

  34. avatar JJ says:

    I really don’t feel sorry for all the West coast cucks who seem to love posing as victims of the antifa. These people keep whining “see, see what antifa did, and the police did nothing!”. Give me a break, what are you expecting? It has been like that for years now over there, you didn’t get the memo?

  35. avatar Ralph says:

    It’s just a matter of time before the sh!t gets real.

  36. avatar Hannibal says:

    “Eventually, the police demanded Mr. Ngo leave or face arrest, claiming that his presence served to “incite conflict.”

    It ain’t legal advice, but I would hate to be the lawyer trying to defend the arrest of someone for facing down armed thugs with words and a camera. Seems like the kind of thing the 1st Amendment was made for. That said, I would stay the F out of Seattle unless I was moving in there with a combat unit to wipe up after these idiots finally set about murdering each other and then realize there’s no day 2 plan.

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      And holy hell I wouldn’t want to be a cop in seattle. If I remember correctly, one got in trouble for tackling some guy who was swinging an axe around because it was considered a failure to de-escalate force.

      1. avatar dph says:

        I wouldn’t want to be a cop in Seattle either, they are the most corrupt bunch of “useful” idiots in the state, so bad that they had Federal oversight for quite some time.

  37. avatar Rusty Chains says:

    The only way to safely video these antifa thugs is to use a drone. What are they gonna do, shoot it down? It would be fun to get in their faces while just out of reach. The cops would have a hell of a time arresting a drone!

    1. avatar CZ Rider says:

      Any drone that can film reasonable video and keep the operator at a safe distance will be large enough to fall under the stupid FAA regulations that got reinstated when trump came in, so they’d find a way to get the tail number and arrest you later if they wanted.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Drones have tail numbers? Are they spray paint resistant somehow?

  38. avatar Fudds McKenzie says:

    Calm down, society is not crumbling. The belligerent tone of protests is unpleasant, but big picture these are people with spare time and a sense of enfranchisement, having mostly shouting matches and squalid, harmless slap fights. Yawn.

    More guns? Good. Yeah I’m a little worried an idiot might make a mistake but that’s nothing new. It’s big-boy rules, serious penalties if you screw up while OC’ing, as opposed to escalation of shouting, blocking, shoving, etc then each shrill hick involved blaming the other to the public and authorities. Do you not believe it will be more civil in the long run?

    1. avatar Tom RKBA says:

      Finally…a sensible comment.

      1. avatar john says:

        My thoughts are the same. Lots of nutters here who think a war will be like call of duty. There is no start over…when you’re dead, you’re dead. Of course the way the article is written it obviously fans the flames….especially the closing sentence.
        Make believe is not real life. War is hell and not what you imagine it. A day into conflict and all these tools would be wishing they were back in their basements getting respawned on COD instead of bleeding out on the cold hard ground.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah… Only people who have never lived under communism think that such a state of existence if preferable to war.

        2. avatar int19h says:

          They have been fapping at the idea of “shooting commies” (or Muslims, or whomever) for over a decade now. Many people sunk thousands of dollars into arsenals, the whole purpose of which is defined by those fantasies. Why be surprised that they’re dreaming of a war?

    2. avatar doesky2 says:

      Every communist or fascist action was started with idiots.

      To not see the direction that things are going also says something about you.

  39. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

    I don’t see 1 person in any of those pictures that won’t go back to the basement the first time they get someone elses brains on their shirt.

  40. I just received a “Notice of moderation”? What gives here on a [email protected] site? If your excepting some kind of thought-police trouble….Then maybe this site should start posting articles about planting a garden…

  41. avatar Tom RKBA says:

    Perhaps instead of wishing for “Civil War 2.0”, we should exert political pressure on the Mayor of Seattle and Seattle PD to arrest the guy who said that? Then we should pressure them to drop their support for ANTIFA.

    NAAAHHHHHH…that would make sense!

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      That’s why these rallies occur in Oregon and Washington. Some people are trying to get the mayors and police to stop supporting communists, but they literally laugh and stand there as you get beat.

  42. avatar L says:

    I don’t understand why these guys are being referred to as “thugs.” They showed up to protest something they disagree with. What’s so un-American about that?

    1. avatar WARFAB says:

      Sure, protesting is as American as apple pie. Using intimidation tactics and government support to shut down and silence those with opposing views isn’t. It’s thuggery.

    2. avatar Jim Bullock says:

      Called “thugs” for doing thuggery.

      Screaming in people’e faces, brandishing, blocking movement, threats of violence, actual assault n worse. Thuggery. In combination, worse.

      Peaceful protest, even “civil disobedience” is one thing. The other term, besides “thuggery”, for “Do what I demand, or I’ll hurt you.” is “extortion.”

    3. avatar GS650G says:

      “Your rights end at the bridge of my nose”
      Daniel Patrick Moynihan
      Or when you launch that rock towards that window.

  43. avatar WARFAB says:

    Open carrying firearms while wearing hammer and sickle emblems to protest against people demonstrating support of the US constitution.

    Do these people have any sense of self awareness?

    1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

      “Do these people have any sense of self awareness?”

      I know that was rhetorical, but they really don’t. My personal favorite are goons out wearing both the hammer and sickle and the anarchist A. In support of the great anarchist state of the soviet union, I guess.

  44. avatar jros says:

    oof, crappy noob build. Bet it has one of those railed gas blocks

  45. avatar Armed Libtard says:

    Lol at your hypocrisy. It’s ok for RWNJs to open carry and intimidate librulz, but when the tables are turned you all whine about it.

    The 2A is for everyone. Get over yourselves, chuds.

    1. avatar Scoutino says:

      You are only armed as long as you don’t succeed. Once (if) your side wins, it will disarm you so quickly your head will spin.

  46. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    What kind of “protest” shuts down reporting on their protest?

    They’re acting up to make a point, and shutting down reporting of their acting up, or their point.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Wait, now, my understanding was that Antifa was there to shut down a protest, by threats and intimidation, and the folks they were threatening would have loved media coverage.

  47. avatar Kap says:

    coming soon, one of these days the armed Democratic party wing supported by the super rich Democrats, Bloomberg, Soros, Clinton etc. will threaten the wrong person who will plant his or her Ass! and touch it off

    1. avatar Deez Nuts says:

      Oh please, your pearl clutching is tiresome. So many hypocrites on here with regard to ‘threat of violence’ with respect to open carry. For screeching for so long about the right to bear arms you guys are pretty quick to try to take them out of the hands of those legally owning and operating them or at least cheerleading for their deaths.

      Great job guys, no wonder sentiment against gun ownership is increasing.

  48. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    Well, that was a “protest”, the same way that ” Antifa” is anti-fascist.

  49. avatar Parnell says:

    Am I missing something here? Is open carry now legal in Washington? Didn’t they just vote for a new draconian anti-gun public question?

  50. avatar Matt in Floridy says:

    This is just polarizing echo chamber nonsense. All you folks touting the next “Civil War” need to get a grip. This country it comprised of mostly people who will trade comfort for freedom. Most people don’t even want freedom. They just want modern conveniences like grubhub, Netflix streaming and a smart phone to stare at.

    1. avatar Eli2016 says:

      “This is just polarizing echo chamber nonsense. All you folks touting the next “Civil War” need to get a grip. This country it comprised of mostly people who will trade comfort for freedom. Most people don’t even want freedom. They just want modern conveniences like grubhub, Netflix streaming and a smart phone to stare at.”

      And I guess you’re one of them Matt In Floridy. Stay away from my state please. We still love our freedom here. Communists are easy to spot.

  51. avatar Phill Mybuttwithfarts says:

    You do realize Joey Gibson’s rallies are WHITE SUPREMACIST EVENTS right?

    He’s conning ya’ll by calling it “Patriot Prayer” and draping himself in the constitution, which btw seems like ya’ll only want constitutional protections for yourselves and glibly cheer for muder of ‘leftists’.

    Ya’ll cowards at best, and wanna-be war criminals at worst.

    1. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

      Lol…yeah that half Japanese guy is really a “white supremist” in disguise…….

      I think you are seriously misinformed, and unwilling to research information for yourself…..and probably around 14 with a name like that.

    2. avatar Kevin (The Other One) says:

      Wikipedia:

      “Gibson resides in Vancouver, Washington.[9] He was born in Camas, Washington, and is of Irish and Japanese descent.[10][11] ”

      “Gibson describes himself politically as a “moderate libertarian”,[13][14] but his organization has been described in the media as “alt-right”.[15][16] Gibson denies that his group is alt-right, and has disavowed white supremacists[17][18][19][20] who frequently appear at his events.[21]

      Gibson supports a pathway to citizenship for non-criminal illegal immigrants. He supports decriminalization of marijuana, and same-sex marriage.[22] Gibson advocates for establishment of term limits for the U.S. Congress, implementation of a national sales tax, and abolition of the Internal Revenue Service.[23] He opposes what he describes as undue influence of the pharmaceutical industry on healthcare in the United States.[18] “

    3. avatar CZJay says:

      How are mixed race people white supremacists? What I see attending those rallies are brown, yellow, black and white. Whereas the protesters of those rallies, that call themselves Antifa, are mostly white people who talk down to minorities that are not on their side.

      If someone commits a felonious attack on you it’s not murder. When a group of people attempt to criminally take your rights it’s not unjustified to fight back.

      Fascism/socialism/communism are not righteous forms of government. They are a scam for a small group to own the masses.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        “They are a scam for a small group to own the masses.”

        That’s as succinct and accurate a distillation of collectivist authoritarianism as I’ve ever seen. Bravo.

        Though very few of the people who push for it understand this. And of those who do…let’s just say that the Inner Party would be a vanishingly small subset of those who think they would be Inner Party. And the ANTIFA rabble would be among the first lined up in front of mass graves and shot in the back of the head.

  52. avatar Capn Jack says:

    All of this, “Key Board Rhetoric” is a worthless waste of time. If the camera person was being threatened, what was LE doing? If they were told to stand down. That’s a problem with the Mayor and the Chief of Police. If there are shots fired…”It is better to give than receive”.

  53. avatar Daniel says:

    They can open carry if they want. They have that right.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      People have rights, commies aren’t people.

    2. avatar Phil Wilson says:

      Absolutely they do. But, whether they open carry, conceal carry, or chose not to carry at all, they don’t have the right to silence political opponents with threats of violence.

  54. avatar Michael says:

    Same = same; chicago mayor Dailey, the day after the “peace” riot at the ’68 democratic presidential convention, “The police were not placed there to prevent disorder, the police were placed there to preserve disorder.” That’s how the, (pre Woodward and Bernstein MSM) reported it and for sixty years everyone thought he’d been misquoted. Nope, he’d meant exactly what he’d said. -30-

  55. avatar Roy says:

    You guys don’t seem to be very in favor of people exercising their second amendment rights if they don’t vote republican. That’s pretty shitty.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      No… we just accept the fact that domestic terrorists don’t have rights.

      1. avatar Miner49er says:

        I seem to remember many tea party protest at court houses across America with heavily armed belligerent folks protesting and demanding their rights. And they weren’t left us, they were conservatives.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          How many skulls has the Tea Party cracked with bike locks?

    2. avatar int19h says:

      It’s what fascists and other right-wing authoritarians do. Remember when Nazis came to power in Germany, they changed the laws such that party members could easily own guns, but not everybody else?

      More generally speaking, fascists divide the world into people and not-people. Anybody who opposes them is not-people, who don’t have any rights, don’t deserve empathy, and basically just need to be extreminated. Now look five comments above this one, and you’ll see pwrsurge literally say that those protesters aren’t people.

      QED.

  56. avatar dewey barnes says:

    airsoft

    1. avatar Anymouse says:

      His tag says PSJBGC, which is Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club. There are lots of JBGCs,and they’ve been known to carry real guns. They talk the tall, but they seem to be deficient in their training.

  57. avatar Anymouse says:

    The bike lock professor wasn’t a Berkeley professor. He had been part time at DVC, which is an East Bay community college. The article says he wasn”t employed at the time. It also said he taught critical thinking, but he seems to have no qualifications.

  58. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Now that gun restrictions have been passed in Washington state it’s interesting how the antifa groups are now coming out openly carrying their weapons.

    It’s like “I got mine now, too bad if you didn’t get yours. it’s too late for you.”

    Antifa has the support of the Democrat Party. Just like the Klu Klux Klan had the support of the Democrat Party 100 years ago. When they were confiscating the guns of black people.

  59. avatar Eddie Savage says:

    Are we ready? We have literally been sitting around with our firearms in our laps just waiting, since Obama!

    1. avatar John Newell says:

      Keep it polished up! If you are a nazi we will be over to take it away from you when you least expect it. Unless you think that you can stay awake for 30 days on a row 😉

  60. avatar Abel Paz says:

    Hey Y’all,

    Armed leftist here, just wanted to make a quick post to counter some of the ridiculous comments above. (FYI, many of the comments are totally reasonable, this is not directed at you).

    1. Yes, there are plenty of armed leftists and yes, we train together. Some of us have been quietly armed for years, and a lot more have been gearing up over the last few years. The commentors trying to convince yourselves that the AR in the picture is an airsoft gun are hilarious.

    2. We are NOT trying to start a civil war. We people with families and jobs, and regular lives just like you all. Some of us might be “latte sippers”, but plenty of us like to hunt, fish, spend time outdoors just like many of you. The reason we are armed is to counter the rise of armed fascist and neo-nazi groups. We are NOT A THREAT TO YOU (unless you are a nazi/fascist).

    3. A lot of you keep talking about “commies”. And, yes, some members of the far left and Antifa are communist. However, just as many (if not more) of us are actually anarchist. We don’t want authoritarian government either. The main thing that divides us from right-libertarians is that we believe that capitalism can be equally as oppressive as government (think of the big banks, huge, multinational corporations, and the ultra wealthy who control most of the worlds resources).

    3. You all talk about how violent antifa and the left is, and yes there have been a few (very few) cases of Antifa getting rowdy and roughing up people they shouldn’t have. Perhaps stretching the definition of fascist. But there are assholes and idiots in every group. It is important to remember that ANTIFA HAS NEVER KILLED ANYBODY. Meanwhile, there are countless cases of far-right fascists ACTUALLY killing people! (Charlotsville, where one Nazi fired a gun at someone, another Nazi killed a counter-protestor with their car, and several people were severely beaten by groups of Nazis. Pittsburgh, where a nazi gunman killed a bunch of elderly Jewish people. Seattle where a right-winger shot a peaceful counterprotestor in the stomach. I could go on and on, there are too many to list here). You snowflakes crying about Antifa getting rough or bringing guns to protests are the definition of hypocrisy. The far right has been bringing guns to rallies and getting violent for a LONG time.

    4. As I said above, we are not a threat to most of you. UNLESS you are an actual nazi/white-supremacist/fascist. To those people (like the person above joking about the nazi who murdered Heather Heyer with his car), we ARE coming for you. Take your paranoid delusions and violent rhetoric and crawl back into the hole you came out of.

  61. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    I remember when the white Liberals and the left supported the KKK marching in black neighborhoods while carrying guns and wearing masks. But those same Liberals never supported law abiding black people having or carrying guns. Now you have a different group of white racist gun toting marchers going out of their way to intimidate their political opposition.

    I think they, the Liberals, got what they wanted in the 1970s. No guns for the Black Panther Party for self defense. But guns for the socialist progressive right, the KKK, and the Left Antifa.

    The west coast is perfect for this. But “Flying Over Country” is very different. Southern gun culture will not put up with this BS. Good luck to you on the west coast. You will need it since more gun control was passed.

    I understand the police in Seattle are quitting the department. Just like in Berkeley Ca. It seems they don’t feel they are allowed to do their jobs.

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