New FL Ag Commissioner Nikki Freid Wants CCW Authority Moved to Dept. of Law Enforcement. NRA is Pushing for a Different Move

Florida Democrat Nikki Fried, the Commissioner-elect of the Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services, wants to move the concealed weapons permit system from her agency to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement as part of “reforming” the concealed carry permitting system. But Marion Hammer, NRA’s former President and current lobbyist in the Sunshine State, wants the authority transferred instead to Florida’s Republican Chief Financial Officer, Jimmy Patronis.

Fried recently reiterated her stance and blasted the NRA in a series of tweets.

The Tampa Bay Times reported this week that Senate Democrats are drafting language to support Fried’s proposal.

Democratic state Sens. Lauren Book and Linda Stewart have drafted a bill proposing the Division of Licensing be moved from the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

When “shall issue” concealed carry passed in 1987, it replaced the quagmire that was the original 67-county-based permitting system. Licensing was then consolidated under the Department of State. But in 2002, that changed when the office went from an elected position to an appointed one.

The NRA fought to have it placed under a duly elected position like the Commissioner of Agriculture since at the time, the state police agency, the FDLE, was known for being a political hotbed that didn’t exactly favor civil liberties. That reputation remains to this day.

I would much rather see the CCW permitting system under Patronis than Fried, who’s no friend of gun rights. Ultimately, the best way to resolve this would be to pass constitutional carry in Florida. But with anti-gun Republican Senate President Bill Galvano, there isn’t much chance a constitutional carry bill would ever reach Gov. DeSantis’ desk.

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  1. avatar Ralph says:

    Devil in a red dress. Scary.

    1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

      You forgot the ‘fugly’… 😉

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        I didn’t forget it. I just didn’t write it.

        1. avatar neiowa says:

          And it’s what’s inside.

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          she wasn’t talking about barrel length.

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  2. avatar Steve Eisenberg says:

    Never forget that the motive of the Democrats is never to protect us; their intention is to disarm and control us.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      But with anti-gun Republican Senate President Bill Galvano, there isn’t much chance a constitutional carry bill would ever reach Gov. DeSantis’ desk.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        Republicans do it. Democrats own it.

  3. avatar Salty Bear says:

    I know it’s a real issue in FL, but here I am in Hawaii, where the state is spending $185k in Young v. Hawaii to defend its “no-issue” policy in the 9th circuit. So we can all guess how that’s going to turn out.

    Keep up the good fight, FL. If I’m very lucky I’ll be a Floridian someday.

    1. avatar Desert Ranger Tycho says:

      Yup. I am also here in yhr Aloha State (except for gun owners) and I am hopeful the State of Hawaii does push it too far in the 9th. It will go to the Supreme Court, hopefully after RBG is replaced by Trump. Then it will be the law of the land!

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        The five votes are there now. No need for Ginsburg to retire. My guess is the 9th will punt and limit the ruling to Hawaii out of fear SCOTUS will toss no and may issue. When DC lost their appeal in the DC Court of Appeals they were pressured not to apoeal by New York, New Jersey and Maryland. And that was when Kennedy was on the Court.

        1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

          “The five votes are there now.”

          I no longer trust Roberts to do the right thing, not after his gymnastics with calling ObamaCare a ‘tax’.

          I want any of the Leftists on SCOTUS to just hurry up and drop dead of natural causes…

        2. avatar tdiinva says:

          DC’s decision not to appeal the adverse Appellate Court ruling came well after the ACA ruling so it looks like the DC AG disagrees with you.

          By the way the mandate is gone, something that could not have been accomplished without Robert’s ruling. Tax bills can’t be filibustered if passed as part of the reconciliation process.

  4. avatar Skinnedknuckles says:

    The state of CT is an example why an unelected state bureaucracy should not control permitting. While CT is not technically a Shall Issue state, it has the legal requirement to approve or deny within 8 weeks. However, the State Police routinely takes 12+ weeks to perform the mandatory background check and the town police typically add many more weeks. Keep fighting, Florida.

    1. avatar Huntmaster says:

      Dittos. In some towns they even want medical records and run financial and credit checks. I still don’t understand how they get access to medical records.

      1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the bull, get the horns" PR says:

        ” I still don’t understand how they get access to medical records.”

        It’s easy.

        You sign piece of paper that says they may have them. Then they get them.

        Any further questions?

  5. avatar Specialist38 says:

    Yeah. Not happy Matt didnt win.

    The legislature needs to keep it where it is or move it to Patronis.

    Who give a crap what jobs she wants to do.

    She knew the job when she put her name in the hat.

    Leftist turd.

  6. avatar GS650G says:

    She stole the election channelling 77000 ballots into the count after the polls closed. That worked so well you can bet they will try it again.

  7. avatar Fully Involved says:

    It seems that Democrats are going all-out to take full control of Florida, from restoring convicted felons their ability to vote (many of which will vote Democrat if given the chance) to making Florida as unappealing to gun owners as possible (perhaps in an effort to us to leave). I never thought the Gunshine state would be at risk of becoming South New York, but here we are.

    1. avatar Jay in Floriduhhh says:

      Southeastern side of Florida already is NY South.
      Palm Broward and Dade have been 101% contaminated by them.
      When I moved to Florida it was still rural. Almost all farm land from the beach to the Glades.
      Now its all housing. All transplanted North Easterners.
      Long Island but hot is how I describe it to people.

      1. avatar DDay says:

        Before 1998, dem’s won the Governor’s office in FL most of the time, they have not won since 1994. FL is as conservative as it’s been in its history

    2. avatar GS650G says:

      Florida represents the dems best chance to take over a state. The influx of democrats from the northeast seeking better weather and lower taxes is unrelenting. They will keep taxes low until they have 60 to 70 percent of the vote then turn tables on them.
      By that time guns will be so controlled in Florida criminals will flock to the state where they will.feel safer.

    3. avatar Nanashi says:

      And, as mentioned below, you can blame Rick Scott for it.

  8. avatar Ed Schrade says:

    Best way to “reform” permitting, CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY !

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Yeah, the Senate just put the kibosh on that one. Maybe next time we control all three houses and don’t have anti-gunners running the party…

  9. avatar Sam I Am says:

    The desire to move licensing is not just because the Florida Dept. LE is anti-gun, but because the entire structure of the Dept. LE is dependent upon political appointees. The NRA position is an attempt to keep licensing an office whose leader is dependent upon the voters. Theory being the AG would be afraid to anger the gun-owning public, but a mere department is insulated from the electorate.

  10. avatar Nanashi says:

    Remember to blame Rick Scott for her being elected. He refused to remove Snipes AFTER SHE WAS CAUGHT COMMITING VOTER FRAUD in 2016. Scott didn’t care until she hurt him personally and as a result the extremely pro-2A Caldwell lost by less than the votes Snipes stole.

    1. avatar SoBe says:

      Yup, and that coward, Scott finally removed Snipes tonight blocking her with state police, after all the damage was done and after she has already resigned. I hope, at least, that means she won’t keep her job benefits. I hate that this has become South New York (and East California) and I will vomit the next time I hear another North Eastern “immigrant” complain how hot it is here and “when will it finally cool down?” I wish it were 85 degrees here every day so they would all crawl back into the hole they came from.

      1. avatar Thunderkawk says:

        Maybe Patriots in FL should put the liberal scum into holes.

      2. avatar Sam I Am says:

        “…I will vomit the next time I hear another North Eastern “immigrant” complain how hot it is here and “when will it finally cool down?”

        Guess there is a reason the New Jerkers don’t retire in North Dakota. While stationed there, we regularly experienced 100deg temp swings. Hottest I endured was 105 in August. Coldest ambient temp was -56. You knew you were fully acclimated when, in year four, you drove to work in cotton shirt, pants and windbreaker…in January.

        1. avatar SoBe says:

          Exactly right. We do get some 20-30 degree drops this time of year but a few days later its back up to 78 degrees. Not bad for winter weather, but attracts as many liberals as it attracts cockroaches and mosquitos.

        2. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Not bad for winter weather, but attracts as many liberals as it attracts cockroaches and mosquitos.”

          Now, you’re just being redundant.

  11. avatar kyle says:

    Funny, id like to see it removed from governement in its entirety. ya know…like the other amendments to the constitution.

  12. avatar Michael says:

    And just think, I believe Florida was the first state to pass mandatory shall issue without any mother-may-I restrictions back in day. Give the communists enough time and they can mess up anything. Once again, it’s not the number of votes, it the ones what count them. Is “Chad” still hanging around. -30-

  13. avatar SoBe says:

    @Elaine D.
    And you thought it could not happen in Florida. It is already happening.

  14. avatar anon says:

    if i understand this correctly, as a newly appointed state official, she wants to give up some of the duties of that position. this sounds like she does not want the responsibilities of the job. i hope at least it would result in a reduction of pay, but better yet, removal from the position…

    1. avatar Ken says:

      She wasn’t “appointed”. She was elected. Unfortunately, there are disadvantages in each.

    2. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “…if i understand this correctly, as a newly appointed state official, she wants to give up some of the duties of that position. this sounds like she does not want the responsibilities of the job.”

      She is accountable to the voters. By moving the function to a department that is dependent on political appointments, she shields herself from the wrath of voters.

      1. avatar SoBe says:

        Sam, that has been her plan all along. She wants to remove the CWL from accountability to the voters to an appointed office. She wants us to become the Massachusetts of the South, ala Maura Healey. That is why after Matt Caldwell had been declared winner, Nkki had to find some extra votes in Broward via Snipes. 4,032,954 Fried votes to 4,026,201 Caldwell votes.

  15. avatar Ken says:

    This is a tough one. No one yet knows if the new governor will appoint a new head of FDLE or keep who’s there. Moving the CCW process under an agency whose leader is appointed by the Governor and Cabinet comes with its own issues. An elected leadership position is sub-optimal as well, as we see in the current situation. Both are subject to the whims of either leadership, the electorate, or both. NRA wants it under the Chief Financial Officer’s office? Fried wants it under FDLE? Not sure what the right answer here is. “Constitutional Carry”? Not a snowball’s chance in south FL given our current political climate.

  16. avatar Gun Owning American says:

    Just pass constitutional carry and the problem is solved.

  17. avatar Soccerchainsaw says:

    One group wants to put licensing here, another group wants to put it there. The obvious solution to this conumdrum is to enact constitutional carry. No license required.

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