South African Deputy Minister of Police: Civilian Disarmament is the End Goal

Over the weekend, South African Deputy Minister of Police, Bongani Mkongi spoke to SABC about the government’s intent to make South Africa a gun-free society. He went on about how civilians should be completely disarmed, and that those who dared “take them to court” are part of the problem.

See the interview here.

Mkongi is referencing gun rights organization Gun Owners South Africa’s challenge to the gun control regulations that have been passed by the ANC-led government. Just recently, the South African Constitutional Court ruled that firearm ownership isn’t a fundamental right under their Bill of Rights, but rather a privilege to be regulated by the Firearms Control Act. Total civilian disarmament is the end goal.

South Africa had and has a very strong gun culture. Such famous arms makers like Lyttelton Engineering Works, Denel Land Systems, Vektor, Armscor, Milkor (Pty) Ltd., Musgrave, Republic Arms, and others are located there.

Mkongi has made it clear that a gun-free South Africa is the end goal. He lies in that regard. That isn’t the end goal. A total government monopoly on force is the end goal.

This is the same socialist party that is currently confiscating private property and trampling South Africans’ civil rights. But you can’t usher in socialist utopia if the kulaks have the ability to resist.

 

 

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  1. avatar anonymoose says:

    Sounds like they could use a coup down there.

    1. avatar nativeson says:

      You need guns to accomplish that. Tyrants, even genocidal ones, don’t give up power when you say, “Pretty please”. The Afrikaners know that they’re dead meat if they give up their weapons. So much for racial reconciliation.

      1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the Bull, get the Horns" PR says:

        “Sounds like they could use a coup down there.”

        ~Then~

        “You need guns to accomplish that.”

        Nope, the enemy has all the tools they need, a population brainwashed, er, ‘educated’ about the ‘danger’ and fully willing to vote the way they have been ‘educated’.

        There’s a movie quote that sums that (utter lack of a) ‘mindset’ up :

        “So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause” :

        1. Funny thing is that Star Wars actress Natalie Portman commented that the scene was aimed at the Republicans…Because Disney/LucusFilms were invaded by DemoCommie SJWs with THEIR leftist agitprop and propaganda…

        2. avatar Geoff "Mess with the Bull, get the Horns" PR says:

          Natalie Portman has really turned out to be a real ‘piece of work’.

          Strange thing is, her first movie, when she was just 9 years old, is a real good ‘gun movie’.

          Leon, The Professional :

          (Gary Oldman was the consummate psychotic bad-ass in that flick…)

      2. avatar Southern Cross says:

        I’m willing to place bets in 5 years South Africa will be on the same road as Zimbabwe. Hyperinflation and famine.

        Revolutionaries rarely make good managers.

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      the handwriting is on the wall in that place…staying to the very end could prove to be a very bad idea..

  2. avatar Phil Wilson says:

    “But you can’t usher in socialist utopia if the kulaks have the ability to resist.”

    Yes. Civilian disarmament isn’t a final goal. It’s an intermediate goal. The final goal is subjugation.

    1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the Bull, get the Horns" PR says:

      “The final goal is subjugation.”

      I find it remarkable that what the Democrats want is the exact same thing as fundamentalist Islam.

      Peace.

      Peace *only* obtainable by utter and total submission to the Prophet. (The last Progressive one was Obama. There will be a new one along shortly.)

      And ladies, that means even your bodies…

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        “The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.” Karl Marx

        “In classical Islamic law, the major division are dar al-islam (lit. territory of Islam), denoting regions where Islamic law prevails, dar al-sulh (lit. territory of treaty) denoting non-Islamic lands which have concluded an armistice with a Muslim government, and dar al-harb (lit. territory of war), denoting adjoining non-Islamic lands whose rulers are called upon to accept Islam.” From wikipedia

        Both seem to be saying “do it our way or we’ll kill you,” don’t they?

        1. avatar Geoff "Mess with the Bull, get the Horns" PR says:

          “Both seem to be saying “do it our way or we’ll kill you,” don’t they?”

          I’d say that was a concise summation…

          *snicker* 😉

      2. avatar NHTom says:

        There is nothing new under the sun.

    2. avatar Silver fox says:

      Actually, it means submit to slavery or genocide.

  3. avatar anarchyst says:

    They mean total (white) civilian disarmament is the goal.
    Attention South African whites: WAR has been declared…

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      tough to kill the whites when they still have guns…relatively easy to hack them to death when they don’t….

  4. avatar Felix says:

    Mandela did a damned good job of holding back those seeking revenge for all the apartheid atrocities, but this has been inevitable. The ANC is full of incompetent power-hungry politicians, and the bad old days are still fresh enough in memory that invoking fear of the whites who implemented apartheid is still an excellent distraction from grabbing and consolidating power, and it is far easier than actually running a competent government.

    Grabbing guns is just one small part of it. Never mind the hypocrisy that they themselves violated gun laws in the bad old days, now they are in charge, it is a new game, same as the old game.

    Who knows … maybe once memory of apartheid has gone from primary sources to second- or third-hand fables, the realization of the current (future) oppressive government, with its Zimbabwe and Venezuela levels of incompetence, will provokde a new revolution.

    1. avatar Alexander says:

      “apartheid atrocities”? Would giving power to the savages not have been an atrocity? Including to themselves. What did the African tribes in the region do to each other in the 17 – 18th centuries? How many were left after the Zulu extermination wars? This is about to be repeated. As the ANC declared, “it doesn’t matter if we go back to the stone age; we want the land.”

      1. avatar Binder says:

        What did the European tribes (nations) to each other in the 15 – 20th centuries?

        Can’t fix human nature, can you?

        1. avatar Alexander says:

          After the 20th century, the European atrocities seemed to have been fixed; the African atrocities are just flaming up.

        2. avatar Ing says:

          Actually, you kind of can fix it. Culture is a very powerful thing.

          Human nature itself hasn’t changed, but culture does. You can see the difference culture makes when you compare medieval European culture to Western culture today. And then compare that cultural heritage to all the places where it never took root.

        3. avatar jwm says:

          It’s been what, less than 30 years since the Balkans? Claiming the euros are less savage cause we turned a century is to ignore their history.

      2. avatar FedUp says:

        Funny, while the evil white SA gov’t was busy committing ‘atrocities’, the nonwhite people in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe were trying to get into SA, like Mexicans trying to get into the USA.

        I guess those Rhodesians really really wanted to have atrocities perpetrated upon themselves.

      3. avatar Felix says:

        The blacks at the time were not savages, they were just black and relegated to a miserable lot by their white masters.

        I suppose Frederick Douglas was a savage like Mandela?

        And I suppose genocidal bigots are not savages when they dress nicely — Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and the founders of the KKK if you want to get a little closer to home.

        1. avatar BehindEnemyLines says:

          Apartheid isn’t comparable to slavery or even segregation in the U.S. Blacks in SA didn’t have franchise. Such a fucking atrocity not being able to vote yourself part of the productive class’s wealth, huh? This conflict isn’t really about black vs. white. It’s fundamentally about communism vs. capitalism. Communists have long used racism as a tactic to divide and conquer nations. Remember, we’ve already seen how this plays out in Zimbabwe.

        2. avatar Ed Schrade says:

          Felix, you should read up on the history of the Mau mau rebellion and read the book by Robert Ruark ” Something of Value”, then come back and comment on this subject.

  5. avatar former water walker says:

    May GOD have mercy on your WHITE soul’s. To arms. Plan to leave too. South Africa is rapidly devolving into just another African chithole. My wife has a friend/business associate there. Haven’t heard from her in awhile…reap what you sow?!? Nah name a black African nation(or A-rab) that doesn’t suck.

  6. avatar Shire-man says:

    They need to leave yesterday. The international community has spoken and there will be no help incoming. The party in power has already stated intent to take what they want and kill whomever they want. GTFO now.

    1. avatar Pretorius says:

      They won’t, it’s their homeland. The Afrikaner nation was uniquely formed in South Africa. There’s a reason why the larger part of the emigrés are English (soutpiels). If you understand the boer you’ll see that they’ll stay. And maybe another blood river or majuba hill is in their future.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        It’s a fight the Boers cannot win. If they stay and fight they will be forgotten in a generation or two.

  7. avatar Swarf says:

    Goodnight… and good luck.

  8. avatar FedUp says:

    Mkongi has made it clear that a gun-free South Africa is the end goal. He lies in that regard. That isn’t the end goal. All the white people dead is the end goal.

    FIFY.

    1. avatar PATRON49IFT says:

      Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner……no more entries please.

    2. avatar Southern Cross says:

      How do you massacre the melanine impoverished minority if they keep resisting?

  9. avatar bobo says:

    Went to high school in the late 80’s with a girl from south Africa and WHITE—

    her father saw the writing on the wall..he got the families passports all set up before the shit hit the fan and grabbed the family money—WELL over 20 million in late 80’s cash. bought a small company in the LA area and moved the family…AKA he bought US citizenship…an immigrant we want!

    Funny –they called it all ‘apartheid’ and she called it for what it really was …the only educated, non crazy people in charge—they just happen to be white!

    funny how when you kill off or run off the white farm owners…all most 100% of the now black run farms fail to grow crops and most nations are trying to get the white EX land owners to come back to feed the now starving masses..

    In my case…I would say–starve

    1. avatar Dave M says:

      Cape Town SA 1st city in the world to officially run out of water, farmers are murdered for their farms and turn into dust bowls, a government official was questioned about the legality of simply confiscating people’s property; “Nothing the government does is illegal”. Sums it all up.

  10. avatar raptor jesus says:

    It’s a lot easier to steal land when your citizens are disarmed.

    1. avatar TheBruteSquad says:

      Exactly. Anyone that thinks this is about anything other than disarming white farmers while selectively not enforcing these laws against black farm attackers hasn’t been paying attention.

  11. avatar neiowa says:

    When the witchdoctor’s son returns from Moscow.

  12. avatar Guardiano says:

    Interesting how this article doesn’t mention race.

  13. avatar Arandom Dude says:

    This isn’t mostly about race. This is a case of the elite among the blacks enflaming racial tension to get an excuse to take everything for themselves. Once it’s over the politically connected blacks will be better off, but the vast majority of the blacks will be even poorer than before. It’s just some John Calhoun-style stuff to keep the poor focused on the wrong enemy while the elite forcibly seize everything for themselves. I agree that the whites should get out while the getting’s good, SA could go from relatively rich to very poor in a hurry.

    1. avatar Guardiano says:

      They sing “Kill the Boer” and kill white farmers in horrific ways. But you’re telling me it’s not about race? You may be right about the endgame, but right now it’s very much about race.

      1. avatar bryan1980 says:

        Arandom Dude actually has a good point. We’ve seen the same thing play out in this country. People like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Obama play the same game as the ANC does. Make the issue about race to inflame the masses, have them (along with a few self-loathing, useful idiots) put you in a position of power, and get rich. Keep artificially fueling the supposed struggle so you can keep your power. All the while, the masses pretty much stay in the same position they’ve been in, or it even gets worse for them.

        In SA, all that has changed is the color of the people doing the oppressing.

      2. avatar Jasper says:

        It really isn’t about race. Once they kill off the White’s they’ll move on to some other group that has distinguishing differences – real, or manufactured, that are unacceptable and they’ll start to kill those people. It’s not like they have a bright future or are capable of coming up with something better to do.

        1. avatar Southern Cross says:

          Most of the ANC are Khosa tribe and they really hate the Zulu.

          Remember the pre handover clashes between the groups in the early to mid 1990s?

          Mandela had to do great juggling act to keep the country from Balkanizing.

        2. avatar Arandom Dude says:

          Another good example would be how early Soviet leadership turned peasants who didn’t have a cow against those who had scrounged enough to get one while they were busy cementing their power. Getting commoners to fight about stupid crap to distract from the fact that those in power are corrupt/incompetent is a trick as old as government. If anyone dies in the fighting, good, it makes the distraction better.

  14. avatar what would spock say says:

    Disarming seems to be an African thing in general. Those 90 dead elephants they found last week in Botswana were supposedly a result of the new govt doing a U turn on what had been a very successful anti-poaching campaign thanks to-you guessed it-GUNS.

    “Botswana’s new government, which won national elections in April, demilitarized its anti-poaching unit soon after taking office without explaining why.

    The “government has decided to withdraw military weapons and equipment from the Department of Wildlife and National Parks,” Carter Morupisi, permanent secretary to President Mokgweetsi Masisi, told reporters in May.”

    you should see the NYT and other media outlets doing mental gymnastics to avoid making that correlation.

    1. avatar Ing says:

      Africa gets the short end of the stick again and again. Colonial exploitation followed by the poison of Marxism, topped off by the feckless stupidity of postmodern progressivism. Combine that with tribalistic culture, and it’s no wonder the entire continent is a festering hole.

      (Side note: Why is it only feckless? Why is nobody ever feckful or feckish or fecky or full of feck? Okay…having typed that, I think I see.)

      1. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

        feck off….little fecker

        1. avatar jwm says:

          That feckful little fecker is feckish towards a Moist Nugget. Fecking feckless muthafecking little feck.

          This is kinda fun. Bunch of feckheads.

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      africa…particularly the sub-sahara..is one giant shit-hole…and probably always will be…

  15. avatar Docduracoat says:

    The better way to make up for the sins of the past would be to tax the white farmers and give the money to the descendants of the former owners of the land.
    Now the land will be stolen by black people who have no relationship to the previous owners
    and if Zimbabwe holds any clues to what will happen, the new owners will not be productive farmers .
    So everyone will be poor, and the white farmers will be gone or dead.

    1. avatar BehindEnemyLines says:

      The land in question was uninhabited when the Dutch colonists settled it. Their decendants are the rightful owners of it, no matter how you cut it.

      1. avatar Guardiano says:

        Exactly. Too many miseducated drones on “our” side think the Boer farmers are villains, or descended from villains which is apparently the same thing. Even if the original settlers were evil land-thiefs (they weren’t), our society left punshing children for the sins of their parents behind when the book of Leviticus was published.

        1. avatar FedUp says:

          They were still doing it in Germany 80 years ago…and apparently in SA today…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sippenhaft

  16. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

    Let them immigrate here sounds like an “everybody wins” solution for the US. If they’re refugees, there’s no headcount cap, right? Even better.

    1. avatar Guardiano says:

      Nope, can’t let in white refugees. Ruins the global white privilege narrative. Australian leftists are openly disgusted with the idea of taking in Boers. They say it’s racist.

  17. avatar Terry says:

    All good Commies want the populace disarmed – makes ’em easier to control when the inevitable famine sets in…

  18. avatar Michael says:

    South African brothers & sisters, if you are people of the gun, come to one of our free states. Hold out for a better deal than the Feds give to the illegals. Maybe we’ll have to have “sanctuary cities”, of our own. If the Feds don’t like it we are now in a position to vote them out. When Trump finishes with the high court we will be done with them once and for all. They are running scared. Listen to at all of the useless noise they are making. They have no coherent policy, just “Hate Trump”. That won’t make it any more. Make America Great Again. There are plenty of creatures of the swamp to vote out of office. Drain it, drain it now. 30

  19. avatar MIO says:

    Not my country not my problem.
    It’s good to watch and learn but that’s where it ends.

  20. avatar DesertDave says:

    Any country in Africa … a gun free zone … boy that is truly an amazing thought. With all of the arms that have flowed into the African continent over the years, they will be creating a MEGA black market for arms in South Africa.

    I wonder how much $$ the government officials are going to be making off of that?

    1. avatar frank speak says:

      and where do all those arms…particularly the AK’s… come from?

  21. avatar Timothy k Toroian says:

    Another DUMBASSED African who acts like a real jerk and moron when given some power. To get people riled up I used to tell them the worst thing that happened after WWII was decolonization. Sometimes I think it wasn’t actually a joke.

  22. avatar GS650G says:

    They probably have no. Idea how many guns exist in S.A.. and they will find out the hard way who has the balls to use them.

  23. avatar Adub says:

    They don’t want anybody to have guns when they unleash rampaging mobs. 20 years ago a half million Africans were killed with sticks, clubs, and machetes.

  24. avatar Ross says:

    To the SA gun owner, as I see it you have two options:

    1, Get out.
    2, Fight (but if you do this you will have to kill the entire bloodline of people like Mkongi, if you can’t bring yourself to do this then option 1).

    1. avatar jwm says:

      Fighting isn’t a real option, either. There’s something like 3 million whites and 30 million blacks in SA. Plus there are other nation states in the region that would supply manpower and resources to back the SA .gov.

      White SA is not going to get any support. They’ll be alone. Getting out if at all possible is their only real option. Either option is full on suck.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        maybe they should have kept the bomb?

        1. avatar jwm says:

          If SA has a nuke then it is under the control of their .gov. No help at all.

  25. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    There is great concern about the black leaders in South Africa confiscating guns. But the white homosexual leadership in California has done a great job of denying guns to blacks and everyone else. Stop voting for people who will give you permission to have sex in public. And at the same time are anti gun.
    Stop voting for free marijuana intoxication paid for by the government. Because those same elected leaders are anti gun.

    The english, the swedes, the South Africans have all made theirs beds. Now they have to sleep in them. It seems the Poles, Hungarians, the Czechs, they believe in saving their nations by closing their borders. But the socialist progressives are suicidal Utopians. And sometimes I think the three L’ s are the same.

  26. avatar 30somethingProudlySA says:

    Boy-o-Boy…. If you’d only knew what we were made of, and in Who we trust….

    3 against 30mil+……

    WE LIKE THEM ODDS…… We fear not, nor conform to the elitist agenda….

    We were born here, we have sweat, worked, lived, loved and loved our neighbor (regardless of race or faith) , we have endured through the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. We have given mandate to Jesus over our lives…. We fear not the enemy of all mankind… I declare, he is slain and defeated. Amen

  27. avatar Nimbus4 says:

    The Boere in South Africa are not afraid, we have a secret weapon a great leader and strong ally. We will not die in this fight, they will, we will not dispair because its not in our nature, we will however clean house before we start. Its going to get alot worse still before we act, but thats only so no one can say it wasnt a fair fight. This will happen and no man can alter the course we are on now. Soon a bucket of blood will fall over and the vierkleur will be pulled from it. A gun is only a tool, a mans mind is a weapon.

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