CNN Town Hall Debate: An Anti-Gun Kangaroo Court With Rigged Questions [VIDEOS]

CNN Town Hall (courtesy

Seventeen-year-old Colton Haab is a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. He’s a member of the school’s JROTC. He was prepared to use Kevlar vests to shield students during the massacre. Mr. Haab said he decided not to attend the town hall after CNN presented him with a prepared question. The video below is from Miami’s WPLG Channel 10 News. Fox News has also corroborated the same.

CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions and it ended up being all scripted, I don’t think that it’s going get anything accomplished. It’s not gonna ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have. I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinion on my questions.

The atmosphere at the event was, at times, awkward, and hostile for Dana Loesch, who spoke on behalf of the NRA. It was no more a “conversation about guns” than a bar room fight is a “pleasant exchange of views.”

The fact that CNN was and is using the Marjory Stoneman Douglas spee killing as a springboard for a renewed push for civilian disarmament is sickening but not unexpected. Anyone who doubts that a Constitutional republic is superior to a democracy should watch the CNN audience baying for the destruction of Americans’ civil right to keep and bear arms.


  1. avatar Salvatore says:

    Dana is awesome. I don’t know why she wasted her time there however, it is akin to speaking about Greek philosophy with kindergartners. CNN is pathetic. And look at all those fools they found to be in the audience, idiots begging the government to strip them of their rights.

    1. avatar bobo says:

      Nothing screams first world quite like a bunch of people complaining they have too much liberty and asking their government to take it away.

    2. avatar Bob Hope says:

      She is just so awesome, I mean she really made a strong case why kids in school sucks and AR-15’s are the bomb (I mean the gun)!

      Thank god the NRA is helping to keep our guns safe. Let’s just keep sending out those thoughts and prayers I’m sure it helps. Who needs kids anyway, right? Unless those kids have a love for guns they have no place in our world.

      1. avatar Owen says:

        A voice from beyond the grave! How’s the afterlife treating you Bob? You’ve been gone for what? Almost 15 years right?

        Sorry to say but your material was better when you were still on the material plane.

      2. avatar Mater says:

        Ha ha bob hope i know you were trying to be a smart ass but you are right who needs kids who don’t knoe any civics just hurt feelings. Hell i want a generation who know that they have rights like free speech even if it hurts feelings and the right to bear arms even if people use said arms to kill other people. Guess what everybody dies eventually…

    3. avatar B-Rad says:

      As someone called her yesterday, Boobs McGee is a joke. She doesn’t know policy, she’s an asshole in interpersonal relations, what kind of argument are you going to win with a teenager, unless you act like a teenager, which she does. The NRA was stupid to even attend.

      She’s a spokesmodel, no more no less, watched her at CPAC today and she was an embarrassment. Wayne wasn’t much better, after backing lots of legislation, he’s now against it for the next few hours, but its a great fund raising opportunity for Wayne and Boobs.

      1. avatar Rick says:

        Boobs McGee, that was me yesterday.

      2. avatar Joseph says:

        I have no idea which CPAC you were watching, but it wasn’t the one with Dana Loesch because she was outfuckingstanding in that one.

      3. avatar doesky2 says:

        Did you really watch that spectacle?

        The format and bias of the “conversation” had Rubio entirely back on his heels and then she walked in and completely stopped the gun-grabber momenteum and started turning it around. You could hear the
        growing frustration of the gun-grabbing crowd when they realized she was scoring real points.

        Those gun-grabbing idiots realized that she was succeeding in getting the NRA points on the table but somehow you didn’t realize that?

        Why don’t you give us a YouTube link to your great oratory on the subject for comparison?

        1. avatar WhiteDevil says:

          Really? According to a website, they proclaimed that this feelings based teenager handed Dana Loesch her ass. It’s bullshit, I know, but, how can you possibly deal with this amount of delusion, that they regurgitate quicker than Usain Bolts run to the finish line?

    4. avatar FactsAndFantasies says:

      The fact that Luis Valdes proclaims that it is a fact that CNN is using the latest school shooting as a segue to advocate for taking away everyones guns does NOT of course make this fantasy a fact.

      No evidence is cited for this alledged fact, and naturally no evidence exists for this supposed fact.

      Valdes unsubstantiated (and bizarre) claim IS however evidence that this site and its admirers share that am radio mentality that imagines repeating nonsense magically creates reality, that repetition somehow constitutes evidence

      1. avatar Howdy1 says:

        That’s from the Noam Chomsky playbook. It’s ironic you would point that out.

      2. avatar LiberalFantasiesVersusRealFacts says:

        The fact that you proclaim that CNN isn’t using this latest school shooting as a segue to advocate for civil disarmament is what actually does NOT make your own fantasy a fact.

        There is actually copious evidence to support the assertion that CNN is in fact doing this, and in all reality, this “town hall” is all that’s needed. Propping up survivors with scripted questions to bait, lead, and lambast anyone and everyone that merely disagrees with them. And, naturally, no such evidence exists to support your fantasy.

        It’s actually your demonstrably unsubstantiated (though not all that unexpected) claim that is evidence that this site’s detractors share the same AM radio mentality that you knowingly project onto us, repeating already-falsified nonsense that does not and will not recreate their dystopian delusions in real life no matter how many times you utter it.

  2. avatar That One Guy says:

    Meanwhile, CNN is ambushing old ladies in florida and accusing them of being Russian trolls.

    1. avatar TX_Lawyer says:

      The funny thing, they were accusing her of doing what CNN did. Spreading Russian propaganda. Which network went live the the Russian Dossier? Hint: It was CNN.

  3. avatar barnbwt says:

    The only reason this got coverage was the NRA attended. All this accomplished was showing gun owners how monstrous the opposition has turned in the SJW age, but transmitted no message, and won no converts. All it did was get that bald-headed gadfly in front of more eyeballs, and burnish her role as the face of gun control for decades to come. I notice the other gadfly, the one found to have familial and professional ties to CNN, kept a much lower profile.

    1. avatar Robert W says:

      Really a damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of situation. If the NRA doesn’t show up, they whine just as much that they can’t handle talking with anybody.

  4. avatar Craig in IA says:

    Human beings actually watch CNN? Why?

    1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

      Flight delays, mostly.

      1. avatar Stereodude says:


        So true…

      2. avatar strych9 says:

        CNN actually pays the airports to run CNN on those TVs…

        1. avatar Stereodude says:

          As if the TSA wasn’t bad enough we have to endure that cruel and unusual punishment too. 🙁

    2. avatar Gman says:

      Know thy enemy.

      Comic relief?

      Tucker is going ape shit on some dumb liberal and it’s too annoying?

  5. avatar Phil Wilson says:

    This is CNN. And they still claim to be the “neutral” cable news source. At least msNBC is pretty honest about what it is.

  6. avatar Craig in IA says:

    Actually, the real honesty is in the call letters CBS and PBS, as in “BS”…

  7. avatar Joe says:

    The kid should’ve played along with CNN and then when he was on camera ask the questions he wanted to really ask
    But the opportunity was wasted

    1. avatar TX_Lawyer says:

      He should have waited his turn and then asked whoever he was talking to what they thought about CNN providing him with a question to ask, and what they thought the question provided said about CNN.

  8. avatar Adam Harper says:

    They say we won’t debate or have a dicussion but then when we do they boo and disrupt us when we try.

    1. avatar Bob Hope says:

      Cry me a river, you need to get booed once and a while – if you were so “civilized” you wouldn’t need to carry a gun around now, would you?

      1. avatar Ing says:

        There are 90 million-plus legal gun owners and 20 million-plus concealed-carry license holders in this country. Logic dictates that if we were as violent and uncivilized as you think we are, there would be no people like you left to annoy us.

        1. avatar Richard Kennedy says:

          Ain’t it the truth.

  9. avatar Tim says:

    Any supposed “Law Enforcement Officer” that works with disarmament fascists like CNN should be completely disowned and rejected.

    1. avatar MattG says:

      Pretty much any badge with an East coast accent should be disowned and rejected..

  10. avatar Rick the Bear says:

    So Janine was pleased that a conversation has started? I guess that she’s new in this country and she missed the previous dozen or so conversations.

    Poor Dana. I’m just glad that those brave clueless kids with their prepared questions didn’t decide to throw a rope over a rafter and string her up (to cheers and a standing ovation).

    And Sheriff Israel, nice dodging the inadequacies of local LE. That 18 year old “kid” , that shouldn’t have a weapon, could join the Army and get an M-4. Oh, and it’s “fewer” weapons, not “less”weapons.

  11. avatar Stereodude says:

    Why did Dana L. even agree to this? Even when they’re not rigging the questions, CNN (and the others) have a number of production techniques they regularly employ against people they don’t agree with to throw them off balance and prevent them from scoring points in the debate.

    1) Outnumber the person with people who share the CNN viewpoint
    2) Have their anchor interrupt the person with non-sequiturs
    3) Don’t give equal opportunity to respond to charges leveled at them
    4) Control when they go to commercial breaks to cut them off

    and other similar tactics.

    1. avatar Wiregrass says:

      Why did she do this? Probably because it’s her job. She knew what she was walking into. I give her credit for trying.

      Fortunately, I had a match last night and didn’t feel the need to waste my time tuning in.

    2. avatar Bob Hope says:

      Right, NRA members need to just stick to only having other NRA member comment. I mean the well of wisdom while you all sit around and circle jerk each other on how important your guns are would be all the reinforcement you need!

    3. avatar Uriel Scott says:

      Probably because out of everyone the NRA had, Dana L was perhaps the most qualified to withstand, survive and possibly fight back an obvious ambush.

  12. avatar Ogre says:

    Good on Mr. Haab for being able to see through the Communist News Network’s churlish propagandist behavior. Sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. I’ve distrusted the press since my days in Vietnam, when they would interview guys and then get it all twisted into their leftist anti-war agenda. I’ve known a few media types over the years – personally they seemed like okay people who paid their bills and didn’t beat their spouses or kids – but professionally, they were not to be trusted.

    1. avatar Vic Nighthorse says:

      I am glad that he didn’t learn the hard way that Kevlar is just concealment against a 5.56×45 rifle.

    1. avatar Mister Fleas says:

      Never, never let people forget that. CNN is as dishonest as any Nigerian prince.

    2. avatar pwrserge says:

      Weaponized autism strikes again.

  13. avatar Shire-man says:

    I’ve noticed a lot of pundits are hung up on the “crisis actors” thing.
    What do you call it when people are recruited to read lines and compensated for it?
    The reality of these kids and parents being used the way they are isn’t all that different from grand conspiracies saying they’re literally hired actors paid to read scripts.
    Tomayto, Tomahto.

    1. avatar Bob Hope says:

      YA, because if they are just paid actors *(you know like the paid NRA spoken person) then what they have to say doesn’t matter?

      Why would paid/ unpaid: actor/non-actor make a difference in the conversation? How does that change the arguments or the context/meaning?

      We are sick of guns and senseless deaths, period.

      1. avatar Mark N. says:

        Tell you what, why don’t you go visit Assad and Erdogan and tell them that. Or the Taliban in Afghanistan. Or the war lords in Somalia and South Sudan. I mean, if you really want to talk about senseless killing.

      2. avatar JOseph says:

        Just wondering Bob, why you don’t have the balls to use your real name? I mean other than being a liberal…

      3. avatar i1uluz says:

        Sort of like most on here sick of seeing the left waving bloody shirts around.

        Bob you supported our involvement in Vietnam but against 2A, interesting, did God change your mind while sitting on his lap?

        What kind internet speed is there in Heaven?

  14. avatar cisco kid says:

    Yes it was rigged coupled with a bunch of ignorant hysterical people. I am amazed Rubio even bothered to show up and take the heat but he DID CAVE IN to advocating restricting magazine capacity which shows how panicked the Republicans are over all of this as they know they are already going to face an angry electorate over their tax rape bill and their attack on Obama Care that was designed to fill the corrupt drug and insurance companies with pockets full of cash. Now with them being held responsible for weekly mass shootings they see the hand writing on the wall and are caving in to banning thousands of modern weapons and Herr Drumpf has caved in as well as he announced he is considering banning thousands of weapons too. Of course its all to stay in power so they can continue to rape the American people of every penny they can even though thousands are dying from lack of health care and hundreds are being gunned down in senseless mass murders that now are happening almost weekly.

    The rest of the civilized world looks on in horror and disbelief. They are all asking “has America gone mad”. The answer is that yes it has and the Russian mission to destroy us is working far better than Putin could ever have imagined. He is destroying America without ever having to fire a shot in anger because he has turned us all against ourselves and when you couple this with American political and corporate blind greed we once again see a Roman Style collapse of society and of a country and we could not have followed more closely in Romes ancient footsteps. The dead hand of the past has once again been resurrected.

    Blind greed of the Rich by controlling all the wealth and sharing none of it with the masses,, massive unemployment and under-employment, masses of people on welfare, mass murder as we turn on each other, the use of a mercenary army because the people no longer supported the government and refused to serve in the military, a bankrupt nation because we spent too much on endless wars of rape, pillage and conquest, cutting off immigration to almost nothing, destruction of family life by forcing women into the work force are all right out of Ancient Rome and we have made the same mistakes Rome made so long ago. But when did the America Hillbilly ever study anything about history, even their own?

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      I could ask the same thing of the average leftist communist… I’m sure that the problem with communism is that you haven’t killed enough people yet. A few million more into the gulags and the proletariat paradise will surely appear, right?

  15. avatar Hank says:

    Interesting how it was all bad laws, the NRA, et al’s fault….until she pointed out that the Sheriff’s office never Baker-acted him. Then suddenly it’s only one person’s responsibility.

    This guy’s not a sheriff, he’s a politician, slithering from one easy to discern applaud line to the next.

  16. avatar Texican says:

    Dana is one of the best communicators on our side. She is about the only one I would have sent to something like that. I still wish someone would take take a 12 gauge zip gun with them to one of these events and show the host and their audience how easy it is to make a gun. It would be easier to ban cars than guns! And we all know that won’t happen. Even a Liberator pistol from WW2 would show the futility of trying to ban guns. Any TTAG writers willing to do that the next time you are interviewed? You could do it at a range to ensure legality. What would be even more tasty would be to have the interviewer hold it momentarily in two parts while you tie your shoe or something. Then retrieve it from them and fire it. Make sure you’re recording with at least two cameras. One showing the firing of the zip gun and one to record the facial expression of the media person. And then post it ASAP to TTAG. You could then talk about building ARs and 80% builds and even 3D printing of gun parts. Not to mention machinists who have the skills and could manufacture guns in their garage whether they have ever done it or not. Any takers?

  17. avatar Matt says:

    From that clip, Loesch didn’t really do a great job IMO but this wasn’t something she could win even if she dazzled everyone with facts, articulation, and emotion. No one really wanted to hear what she had to say. It was pretty clearly everyone on Dana.

    One thing these kids are doing, which I can actually respect, is asking direct pointed questions and not stopping when they get typical political, talk out both sides of the mouth, non answers.

    1. avatar Bob Hope says:

      Right Matt, thank god someone is defending the GUNS in this country. I mean those dumb kids in school need to defend themselves (that’s not our job), but those little precious AR-15’s need our voices to keep them safe. Pathetic, that’s why people dislike the NRA, they are just plain pathetic.

      1. avatar 16V says:

        That right, Bob. Those kids don’t need to look before they cross the street, someone needs to ban trucks. In fact, they shouldn’t have to worry about riding a bike on a path in NYC, we need rental truck background checks and Muslim control!

  18. avatar Bob Hope says:

    Why would it matter if a question/comment is “scripted” anyway? Take a look at the President’s “scripted” questions in his hand during his “Listening Session” – why not the uproar over that?

    The truth of the matter is US Citizen are gun nutz, period. I just wish they would take their guns to all the GOP roadshows (town halls, fundraisers,etc), but alas you CANNOT bring a gun to those! Comical

    So start a movement to show some pride and bring you AR-15 to ALL and EVERY, GOP-Repulican related events, they LOVE guns, so bring yours and show them how much you love yours!

  19. avatar 16V says:

    “…a bankrupt nation because we spent too much on endless wars of rape, pillage and conquest, cutting off immigration to almost nothing, destruction of family life by forcing women into the work force are all right out of Ancient Rome and we have made the same mistakes Rome made so long ago.”

    Didja get your history credentials from the back of a cereal box, or just straight off an ANTIFA pamphlet?

    Please cite the US war where ‘rape and pillage’ was the stated goal. or even sanctioned policy. Again, ‘cutting off immigration to almost nothing’? Are you kidding? We have no labor shortage in this country that can’t be dealt with by legal citizens, and we can afford to be very picky about who we let in. You know, like every other country with an immigration policy. As to the fall of Rome, there were similarities, mostly involving the welfare state overspending, and influx of unassimilated foreigners, lack of political will to deal with invaders, stuff like that.

    You might want to actually learn some history before bemoaning the unwashed masses lack of knowledge. It’s worse when all you got for your parents’ $150K is a degree in whining.

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      Yeah. I mean it’s not like a guy named Gibbon wrote an exhaustive history of the fall of the Roman Empire back in the 1770’s or anything… it’s only available in like a zillion different editions.

      There’s books on the rest of this shit too. Its almost like the ignorance is intentional.

    2. avatar cisco kid says:

      Its obvious 16v flunked even history 101. You are a joke.

      1. avatar 16V says:

        I did fail Revisionist History…

        Please feel free to cite a source and posit some actual argument Kid. I know you can’t, but please, I find intellectually curb-stomping the illiterati amusing in a Darwinian way.

  20. avatar TruthTellers says:

    The Lions Den was present and broadcast live via satellite last night and lemme tell you, the reason the 2nd Amendment exists is for mobs like the one in Florida last night.

    As much as we don’t want to think about it, those students and those teachers and those people in the crowd are the tyranny that the founders foresaw when the created the Bill of Rights. They tyranny can come from the government, yes, but it often comes from the majority.

    I don’t for a moment believe if we had a handful of protestors saying that the 2nd Amendment is unlimited that we wouldn’t have been attacked. These people are emotional, distraught, and afraid of what they do not know. They just know the AR is an evil rifle meant to only kill and they want it banned because other guns wouldn’t kill as much.

    The point shouldn’t be to reduce death tolls from guns, it should be to eliminate it and find ways to keep any gun, not just the AR-15, out of the hands of someone like Cruz or prohibited persons like the Sutherland Springs shooter, the Carolina Church shooter, etc.

    After the Navy Yard shooting with the Black guy, who had a report filed by a cop in RI said he was “hearing voices” I think from now on when a cop deals with suspects who say they’re hearing voices or seeing things, they need to call medical services and have them brought to state hospital for evaluation.

    They don’t have to be held indefinitely, but long enough for observation, put those observations in their FBI/NICS profile so that they can’t purchase a firearm until they’ve sought treatment for their issues.

    The bottom line is we can’t have people who are hearing voices that aren’t real, seeing things that aren’t real, cutting themselves on Facebook Live streams, etc passing background checks, but we also can’t be allowing soft targets to be victims of mass shootings or terrorist attacks.

  21. avatar Chicago Chicago says:

    DANA! Awesome I have so much more respect for her now! Those NRA ad’s were kind of putting me off………..She is courageous and deserves our respect.

  22. avatar Sheepdog6 says:

    She did better than I would have done. Some punk high school kid tells me that they are going to “take care of my kids better than I will”…I’m going to tell em they have 10 seconds to exfil this space before I’m going to choke them out.

    1. avatar Jim says:

      Well, it’s a great thing gun owners aren’t under a microscope right now, because dumbass threats of violence sure don’t prove the point of anti-gun rights activists. Why don’t you just go ahead and give to the Brady campaign while you’re at it, champ?

  23. avatar ACP_arms says:

    Good thing I wasn’t on that stage, I would have blown a cylinder cutting down all of the so called questions and the statements made.

    1. avatar Jim says:

      I’m sure you would have really shown those kids who’d just survived a massacre who was in charge, big guy.

      1. avatar ACP_arms says:

        Sorry, not sorry, I can’t stand to let lies stand unchallenged and facts leave facts uncorrected. If they want a debate they can one as long as there are no pre-approved questions.

        1. avatar ACP_arms says:

          Damn edit wouldn’t let me edit – “and leave incorrect facts uncorrected”

      2. avatar 16V says:

        The only ‘kids who survived a massacre’, did so out of dumb luck and that the shooter was executing his planned exfil. I have yet to hear the tale of bravery in the face of adversity, or even someone smart enough to get out of the line of fire. There wasn’t a platoon there to round them up and kill them, there was a lone psycho who they didn’t have the common sense to attempt to get away from.

        I’d love to see evidence of otherwise, but at this point, any of the “survivors” escaped soleley because the nut with the gun wanted a beverage and maybe a $5 Footlong…

        30 years ago this kind of sad (and suicidal) inaction would be their fault, now we blame the parents and teachers of the coddled 16-year-old-toddlers.

  24. avatar Seizure doc says:

    We should cause the registration of all firearms, on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless.

    VI Lennin

    That was 100 Year’s ago. The playbook has not changed. We cannot bargain or negotiate with these people.

  25. avatar Jim says:

    Can I get you a little cheese to go with that whine? “The mean kids asked hard questions! It was riiiiiiiiged!” Grow a pair of balls, you big baby.

  26. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    While I hate to ever accuse the NRA, R-party, or Pretty Little Marco of having a clue…

    – If you look reasonable, while someone else is foaming, long-term you win with the persuadable middle.

    – That town hall created literally dozens of campaign ads.

    You don’t let your opposition film inside one of your tent revivals, where you say all the stuff you are not ready to admit, yet (“deplorables”.)

    The anti-gun nuts had to do this. The bare facts are way, way too at odds with their story. Brave people step up in the moment and save others … OK, so why weren’t they armed? Damaged kid, with multiple red flags. The time it took for police response while people on the scene were doing what they could with what they have. It’s frakking Floriday — how many deadly, black killing machines within half a mile of that school still haven’t killed everybody. Now we have the guard who didn’t step up.

    Why do you “need” a gun? Because you won’t stop the whack-jobs for me.

    The anti-gun nuts had to do something to try to step on the actual story here. The amazing thing is that they thought they could, and this was how.

  27. avatar Chris Hinckle says:

    So did he brag about his and his co-workers accomplished careers before or after they found out one of his sheriffs chose to stay safe outside for 5 minutes while the nutbag went on a shooting spree

  28. avatar John in Ohio says:

    Many of us are well aware of what indoctrination centers public school have become. However, some of those same people will not support simply removing GFZs and allowing everyone to carry. And, some of those are of the staunch “concealed means concealed!” brigade who are dead set against anyone open carrying. A lot of people seem to want to turn schools into maximum security facilities with armed agents of government (current and/or retired and/or newly minted) everywhere. This furthers the indoctrination everyone is complaining about. It produces the very useful idiots that are so dangerous to individual liberty today.

    These mindsets are adding to indoctrination of the youth and general public. If all that the minors and general public see in the schools and on the streets are agents of government carrying firearms, of course the notion that they must turn to government for protection will become fixed in their minds! When children see their parents, teachers, uncles & aunts, neighbors, etc carrying firearms in defense of themselves and others, it helps reinforce the fact that we are each responsible for our own security and safety. The general public, and many POTG I might add, are quick to accept infringement because they no longer see regular people carrying peacefully in everyday life.

    Those who are against simply removing GFZs and allowing everyone to carry, as well as those who are rabidly squealing “concealed means concealed!” are doing their part to further indoctrinate the younger generations and inoculate the general public against truly understanding the inalienable individual right to keep and bear arms and how it is essential to a free society. Walk the talk!

    You don’t want former felons carrying firearms? Then keep them locked up or finish the job right on the spot when they commit a violent crime. By allowing government to decide who can and cannot be armed, you have endorsed the privilege of keeping and bearing arms instead of defending the right to keep and bear arms. You have already metaphorically shot yourselves in the foot and doomed future generations. Think about this… You want government to protect you from group X instead of taking the responsibility yourselves. That’s a few degrees, if any, off from the anti-gunners’ position… They want government to protect them whatever “danger” instead of taking the responsibility themselves. Nowadays, I don’t see much difference between the groups. Both turn my stomach.

    Please think long and hard about what I have tried to express here. Business as usual will kill individual rights in the long run.

  29. avatar Gralnok says:

    Well, I’ll chalk this up to one more time I wanted to punch my monitor. This is yet more proof that there’s no reasoning with the radical left. Every day I thank God I live in Arizona, a state that recognizes the Second Amendment is not a privilege, it’s a right.

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