Hi-Points are to firearms design what Olive Garden is to Italian food. They’ll get the job done and . . . that’s about it. No surprise, the, that Hi-Point’s guns don’t appear on anyone’s “top” firearms list. Our own reviews haven’t been that kind to either the Hi-Point C9 pistol or Hi-Point 995TS carbine. But there are at least three good reasons to buy one.

3. You can treat it mean and not worry about post-DGU confiscation

No one will ever mistake a Hi-Point for a safe queen. You’ll never bring your ballistic BFF out to the garage, open the safe and brag on your new Desert Digital .45. That’s a good thing not a bad thing!

Thanks to Hi-Points’ homely looks and cost of acquisition you’re not gonna baby their guns. You’ll shoot them, carry them, drop them, scratch them, run over them with the ATV and never shed a tear.

If, heaven forfend, you ever have to use a Hi-Point to defend yourself or your family, you won’t hesitate if a cop says “drop you weapon!” And you won’t be heartbroken when the police confiscate it as evidence. (Some might even say you’d be relieved but I couldn’t possibly comment.)

You’ll just go down to your local gun store and buy another one. Getting the first one back just isn’t worth the time and effort. Ladies and gentlemen, the BIC lighter of guns.

2. They’re Cheap

There are all kinds of euphemisms for the low cost of a Hi-Point: it’s affordable, won’t drain your wallet, has a low barrier to entry, it’s a great value. Let’s cut the crap: Hi-Points are cheap.

A lot of people think that a high-dollar firearm will improve their speed and accuracy. The world doesn’t work that way. For most people, mastering marksmanship takes time, patience and a pile of ammunition that makes Scrooge McDuck’s vault look like a piggy bank.

A Hi-Point pistol or carbine may not have the best trigger or the largest magazine capacity (hint: they don’t), but the money saved versus, say, a Wilson Combat directly translates into your ability to buy ammo and range time to practice.

I get the feeling that someone who buys a C-9 as their first gun will spend much more time on the range than someone who lays down the cash for an X-Tac Elite.

And you can “work” on your gun without worrying about ruining an expensive piece. Want to try your hand at DIY stippling? Have at it! Always wanted to Cerakote a gun? Gopher it! If you screw up, it won’t ruin your weekend.

1. Hi-Points Work

The best argument for a Hi-Point is that their guns just run — with the notable exception of one we tested in 2011. Which may have been a flukeTheir carbine ran flawlessly. Their 9mm versions have well-earned reputations for reliability.

If you’re light in the pocket, need a gun for personal defense and don’t care about anything else, you can do a lot worse (and many people have) than picking up a Hi-Point. How great is that?

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119 Responses to Top 3 Reasons You Should Buy a Hi-Point

  1. I have owned a Hi Point .40 for several years, and every time I’ve taken it out to the range, it has never failed to go bang when I press the bang button. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about my Hi Point.

    • It’s irritating when people talk smack about Hi Points when they’ve most likely never even held one. They’re extremely reliable to a boring degree, they’re just cheap and ugly.

      • I’d say it’s based more an aesthetics than anything. I know a few guys who own various types of Hi-Points, and none have ever complained about reliability. The one guy I know who has a carbine absolutely loves it. But they are ugly, ugly guns.

  2. 4. – It’s the perfect gun to have on hand when the ‘Comrades! Give us your guns!’ moment comes under an inevitable future Progressive administration.

    5. – It’s an excellent choice if someone you know has need of a gun *now*, and you won’t cry if you don’t get it back from them…

    • Yep. Always keep an eye for them. Bought 4 used ones over the years, never paying more than $80. Checked them at the range, cleaned/oiled them, and throw them in a 30 cal ammo can with desiccant and 200 rounds of ammo. Perfect here you go package for the trusted neighbor that suddenly realizes they should have listened earlier and gotten a firearm before the SHTF.

      • waaaaay better than those ring of fire guns… I shot a Lorcin once, gaurenteed first shot with a variable probability of the next shots. never emptied the mag tho, lousy 6 rounds and it could not do it.

    • And along with point number 5, I have given two High Points to step-daughters so they’d have a gun in their home for protection, and never batted an eye over the cost or the loss of the gun.

  3. Hi-Point .40 here also… same thing, after the first box never had a problem. As a bonus if you run out of ammo, or if it does actually jam, you can beat the perp senseless with it, it’s a brick. Perfect truck gun too.

  4. There is probably a HiPoint pistol in at least half of the trucks and jeeps out here in Wyoming. Probably Montana and South Dakota too. I had one for years, but it finally got to be too much for these old, arthritic hands to fire much… and it hurt, so I sold it to a young man who needed a gun for his truck. 🙂

    I also have a 9mm carbine from HiPoint. Have not shot it much, and need to take it out soon. I looked at it a minute ago (it’s behind the office door) and the darn thing is dusty. Can’t have that!

    Only thing I don’t like much about them is that they are a pain in the tush to strip down. Luckily, they don’t need it often. A bore snake and a slightly oily cloth for the action are good enough most of the time.

  5. Maybe the Hi-Point is what I should start with. Cheapo. If I don’t like it, I can strip it down, throw the parts in different dumpsters and be done with it, not much poorer. Good “starter” pistol? I mean, “starter” as in “starter-marriage”, not as in “starter” gun for foot race.

      • “Pull it out, wave it around and you’ll probably start a foot race.”

        There are at least two different interpretations of that comment. But either way, as pertains to me, people would definitely be running away.

    • Having owned two HiPoints, I would save up a little more and buy a SCCY CPX2 instead. The HiPoints were both reliable and accurate enough, but so is the SCCY, and it is much nicer in pretty much every way. Just my two cents, as far as ultra budget guns go. Full disclosure: I got my SCCY used for the price of a new HiPoint.

      • Thanks. Noted the size and weight of the HiPoint, and decided it wasn’t for the pocket. The SCCY might be due a look.

        • Having shot the hi point, sccy, Keltec, Jennings, and a few others. I suggest saving up for a compact striker fired handgun. I think a sig 320, glock 19, XDM, or M&P. They will cost 2x to 3x the price of the cheaper guns but they have more refined components then the cheaper guns mentioned above. This will allow you to build better habits.
          The reason I say compact is that they are big enough to properly grip but small enough to conceal (if you want to try it). Striker fired because the operation is simple(ish) and the fire controls can be trusted wether they have a safety or not. People of the gun can fight forever over make, model and caliber but the truth is the big gun companies are all on the same playing field together(sig might be a better short stop, glock might be a star outfielder but they are all playing ball in the same league).
          Btw yes I have shot all the guns listed above and more, and I am not saying the bargain guns are unreliable(I have only had a few issues) but they defiantly have sub optimum components or features that take away from enjoyable, accurate range time.

  6. I really want a glock fotay with the 100$ dip on it.

    Maybe even some beamz and extendos just because I think it’s funny.

    • The funniest thing i was ever asked for was “yo man i need a beam for my four fifths”. I didnt know if i should cringe or laugh. So i did both.

  7. I always hate option #3, I’ll carry what i want and having it confiscated post-DGU is the least of my worries…

  8. I got a Hi-Point C9 as a first handgun so I could cheaply find out if handguns were for me or not. I liked it and have bought many more other brands since then. If it had been inaccurate or unreliable, I might not have developed a love of handguns. It was a good choice and I appreciate the heavy ugly things.

        • Condom: (Merriam Webster Dictionary)

          ” 1
          : a riddle whose answer is or involves a pun (as in “Why didn’t the lost hikers starve in the desert? Because of the sand which is there.”)

          2
          a : a question or problem having only a conjectural answer
          … the political conundrums involved, particularly the problem of how the richer areas … can be made to subsidize the poorer. — Douglass Cater
          b : an intricate and difficult problem He is faced with the conundrum of trying to find a job without having experience.”

  9. The first two reasons on this list are essentially the exact same thing – “they’re cheap”. Couldn’t even come up with a third reason, Nick?

    Note that this is not a criticism – if pressed, I couldn’t come up with a single reason to own one in today’s market full of inexpensive, reliable pistols, nearly all of which equal or beat the Hi-Point in areas of appearance, ergonomics, and value.

  10. Actually been thinking about getting one for the last week or so.

    I’ve spent more and got a lot less…

  11. I might finally pick one up this year. I’ve seen them new for as low as $140, and used for $100 or less.

    If it’s your only option, it’s better than a sharp stick.

  12. ummmmmmmmmm, did you really just say Hi Points are reliable????? that is some pretty strong cognitive dissonance you are displaying. you do realize they are on the second gen of 9mm’s right? the first gens, which i owned, was absolute crap. might as well have been a Jimenez. that POS couldnt get through a single mag with out jamming at least twice. I have heard the .45’s are better. I guess its good to hear it looks like they finally got the 9mm working properly but that doesn’t mean we ignore the past.

    • Both the .45s I had were 100% reliable. Still doubt I will ever own another HiPoint pistol, though. I might buy one of the carbines when the Hightower bullpup stock comes out though.

    • O please explain and back up that comment. Toks survived the eastern front and they do indeed penetrate soft body armor if loaded hot enough. I do not own one but for about 200 or just over they are hard to beat.

    • My 7.62 field Tokarev goes bang every time, cost as much as a Hi-Point, carries and conceals a LOT easier than the Hi-Point, along 85gr. JHPs that are devastating in kudzu pigs & flesh-analogs. And my carry 9mm Norinco Tokarev has a real safety, unlike the disfiguring warts commonly referred to as “safeties”. But neither would pain me too much if I lost them after a DGU/theft…. and all of that makes us clowns, how?

      Clowns to me, are gun-forum snobs who enjoy insulting other gun owners. I can count numerous occasions where friends of mine who otherwise would be into shooting, are not because of encounters with clowns like you at gun stores and ranges.

      So do the community a favor; rag on a pistol all you want, but refrain from ragging on the owner.

  13. I disagree. Hi-Points are the Chef Boyardee of guns. I do not have a Hi-Point, but I do eat Chef Boyardee upon occasion.

    • I believe in NYC it’s either the most and at least top 3 most recovered crime gun. Gang bangers seem to love those cheap throw aways.

  14. Name me just one person who if they only had a Hi-Point for whatever reason and was attacked, would refuse to use it because it was a Hi-Point and not their favorite weapon………..That’s OK I’ll wait. Now that the crickets have quieted down. Bottom line, if you had a Hi-Point you ARE GOING to use it. The name on the slide won’t matter when it you’re attacked and that’s all you have to work with. Are they the bestest most dependablest and prettiest gun, HELL NO, but IT’S A GUN and not a sharp stick!!!

  15. I don’t know about the conclusion of #2. Yes it is cheap and you won’t spend much money… But I can’t imagine most people getting a high point pistol are intending to spend the difference on range time, ammo, training, etc. Probably more thinking “I should buy a gun” and they do and then stick it somewhere, nightstand, closet, etc.

    I think if someone was going to really research brands, try out guns, put in a lot of range time, they will probably either get something else instead or upgrade pretty quickly. There are so many options just $100 more or so.

    • “Because poor people need guns too!”

      Maybe the govmt should issue a HiPoint and box of ammo with every food stamp card. That would put the regular people on equal footing with the gangs.

      • Nah, the citizen militia are supposed to supply their own weapons, but I think Congress DOES owe me some ammo and some drilling…

    • And those of us who are just cheapskates and buy a cheap gun because it serves the purpose we buy it for. Like with cars, you don’t buy a BMW to go dirt tracking with.

  16. No surprise, the, that Hi-Point’s guns don’t appear on anyone’s “top” firearms list.

    Where you aiming for the word “then”?

  17. “I get the feeling that someone who buys a C-9 as their first gun will spend much more time on the range than someone who lays down the cash for an X-Tac Elite.”

    Uh, no. The person who is so cheap that they buy a Hi Point will bitch about the price of the range time and the ammo. They won’t buy ear or eye pro, but will use the loaners from the range. Actually they will probably never fire it, just let it sit in a drawer, in its box, “just in case.”

    When someone asks me about how much it costs to buy their first gun, I usually tell them to budget $500-$600 for a gun and at least that much on top for the other stuff to get them started. Eyes, ears, ammo, lock box (at least), range time, instruction, etc.

    And none of the ‘getting started’ stuff is cheaper with a HI Point. Do you see a Hi-Point buyer forking out money on instruction? A gun safe that out-prices his gun?

    My new advise to someone with only $300 is to buy a police trade in gun. We all know that cops never wear out their guns with too much practice.

    • I’m happy when people at least have a Hi-Point.

      What’s that old saying about no shoes / no legs . . .?

      “I used complain that I only had a Hi-Point, until I met a man with no right to keep and bear one. Then we wore out the Hi-Point hunting the tyrannical mfs down.”

      Something like that.

      • Ok, I agree- you guys are right. It’s better than nothing.

        Truth is, If it were good looking turd, I wouldn’t hate them so much. A Kel-tec is only a little more, and isn’t nearly as ugly. Seriously, nothing makes a Glock look so good as setting it down next to a Hi-point.

    • Spoken like a true gun snob. Some of us that bought a Hi-Point can afford any gun we want but choose to buy a tool that is adequate for the. I bought ear protection, plenty of ammo and a gun safe but why go to a gun range when I have dozens of acres outside my door to shoot to my heart’s content. My AK47, AR-15 and 1911 don’t mind being around a lowely Hi-Point. Some of us that bought a HI-Point were able to retire debt free at 55 and have more time to play with our toys while gun snobs are still trying to keep their bills paid while they work full time.

      • “Spoken like a true gun snob.” Yeah, sort of. I’ll drive a cheap car or wear a cheap watch, but if its cheap AND it sucks, it’s a no-go. Its got to have some style, or be extraordinarily reliable, or accurate, or pretty, and I just don’t see any of that it with a Hi-point. But you miss my entire point, its not just about the gun: I’m even more scornful of someone who demands the cheapest possible item without regard to quality, looks, function, value or resale. I think they’re probably short-cutting other aspects of gun ownership, like practice, instruction or safety. In short, I judge someone poorly who values price over all else. That’s right, I don’t just judge the gun, I judge the person who bought it.

        So I guess I’m kind of a dick when it comes to Hi Points and their owners. Sorry about that, I don’t even know you. I’m willing to admit this as a character flaw. Other than that, I’m mostly a nice guy.

    • kevin

      “And none of the ‘getting started’ stuff is cheaper with a HI Point. Do you see a Hi-Point buyer forking out money on instruction? A gun safe that out-prices his gun”?

      I have saved up several hundred dollars to take classes with my 45 caliber hi point hand gun. There are two different ranges my wife I plan on attending classes at. I have taken it to the range many times and no one makes negative comments. My gun will make you or any bad guy bleed. Just as your guns will make me or anyone else bleed. There is a great deal of classism in the gun community.

      I’m planning on buying a gun safe for my hi point and the five gun long guns I own as well, with the money I saved.
      As a new gun owner in the 2.0 gun generation, it takes me a little more time to catch up to people like you.

      • Good reply. I have my preferences and they may be different from others or the same as some others. I have never bought a Hi Point, but I may after reading this blog. Inexpensive does not have mean unreliable; one inexpensive gun I used to have never had a malfunction. From what I have observed in person, a lot of fancy, expensive stuff (guns, cars, etc) do not work as well as good solid ‘regular products. Kind of like that great looking ‘trophy wife’ to hang on your arm that is more of an unreliable nagging pain in the ass.

  18. Everyone talks about them always firing, but my C9 does jam too often for comfort. So, it is sitting in the safe back in MT, and we are a thousand miles south of there, with guns that don’t jam. Will eventually figure out the problem – we now have enough guns that I can safely get it away from my wife for a couple days.

        • Ya, remember when Kimber nearly recalled the entirety of its “Solo” pistol line? I’ve been a lane over from someone who broke a hammer on a Rock Island 1911 and he just broke out another one right there and fixed it, I said, that’s a bench level repair at least for me, he just says “nah” I replace it about every 3 months. So NO !

          All you hear about is this or that on TTAG is the $700 plus firearm that likes this or that ammo or won’t feed hollow points. I don’t claim that my Hi-Point is my go-to, but it’s a GREAT reloading test gun (even for Lead (Pb) projectiles) and the thing has ALWAYS run like it was just happy to be invited to the party, and I bought it 2nd hand NIB for $95.

          Like I said, we ALL owe Mr. Tom Deeb (GOD rest and keep him) a hearty HOORAH! and Thank you! When the Chinese come over the fence, you’ll want all comers, even empty handed, and the Hi-Pointers will make rank just as fast.

        • I do favor the boat-anchor-gross-weight metal framed version. Saw a blog somewhere re: a $4500 Hi-Point, might not go there, even after a YUUUGE lotto win, but a good rail light or if Hogue came up with some rubber grips with a Crimson Trace insert I might further impulse buy . . .

          ; )

    • I will have to agree with Joe on this, my second one way back in the day was an $80 used Stallard, which was the predecessor to HiPoint, with a damaged slide lock notch. This gun was probably 20 years old, and I was at least the third owner, but I sent it off to HiPoint, they fixed the notch and sent it back with a free spare magazine. Their warranty really is second to none.

  19. Had a Hi Point 40 as my first pistol. Kel Tec P11 as my second. This was before I had any real money to spend. Of the two, I would easily recommend the Hi Point over the Kel Tec. Went bang every time and was reasonably accurate. Can not say that for the P11. Low on capacity, but when it runs out, you can either throw it or beat someone with it if necessary.

  20. The only thing I dislike about them is the size of the grips. I’d probably have bought one or two over the years if not for that. It’s the same reason I don’t have a Beretta 92. The carbine is fun to shoot though & I’ll probably get one one of these days.

  21. Companies that offer that kind of warranty know they sell crap. If I have to send it back, tweak the feed lips, ect I don’t want anything to do with it in the first place. Even a hint of unreliability makes me say no efin dice. Keep justifying fan boys

  22. If you are poor enough that a Hi Point is the top of the line in your handgun choices then you’re poor enough to have trouble replacing that Hi Point if the cops stick it in an evidence locker.

    When I was that poor Hi Points didn’t exist. I went with things like a Raven or used H&R’s. You do what you have to.

    • #3 is about the stupidest reason to own any firearm. A gun is a tool, a thing don’t get overly attached.

  23. I have a first generation C9. It runs great out of the box. I don’t care if my guns or vehicles are pretty, I want them to run.

    I have had two Kimbers that were absolute crap. Neither would make it through a box of ammo without jamming. Biggest waste of money on firearms I have ever committed.

  24. You guys are snobs. $90 got me a .45 pistol that goes bang every time, and it’s at least as accurate as my 1911.

    I had an ugly farm truck, once. It always ran great. I sold it. I was a fool.

    Hi-Point is the ugly farm truck of guns.

    • If there is one thing I’ll be a snob about it’s my firearms. And oh so happy to say say so. Just bought a new Mossberg 500 for $290, decked it out(made it better) with $500 of furniture and other stuff. Took a very reliable pump gun and made it fit, made it better. Sold it and now on to the next project.

  25. I’ve had a 9mm for about a year at first it jammed often but changed ammo and it has been great ever since and I shoot it often. You can’t beat it for the money.

  26. I was bound and determined that I was going to buy a Hi-Point carbine last weekend. I went to the gun show, sold a couple .22s which were gathering dust in the gun case, and began shopping. I narrowed my choices to the 9mm at one dealer vs the .45 at another. When I was walking around, I was convinced I was going to buy one or the other… but when I stood in front of either one, I just couldn’t do it.

  27. I have many,many,many firearms but I can’t help looking into my hi points. They are very reliable. I have never had a mal function on them. They are ugly but work smoothly and that’s what I like the most.

  28. 4. They’re American made. If that matters to you.
    5. The manufacturer has excellent warranty service. They stand behind their product quite well.

    The pistols are too darn heavy and bulky to carry, but their carbines are an economical choice for home defense.

    • Better have excellent warranty service when you make crap like that. Anything I have to send back to make better is garbage. Should be ready to rock right out of gates

      • If anything that has to be sent back for warranty service is garbage, you better stay from high end guns and vehicles. They are more likely to need adjustments than basic ones because of the more precise fit and closer tolerances. The “sloppy” and loose Glocks, Mossberg 500s and lowly Hondas or Toyotas seldom need the fine adjustments that fancy products require.

  29. Yes they are ugly. Yes the triggers suck. Did I mention they were ugly?

    Reliable? Based talking to owners they are very reliable now. Most the people who complain about reliability have never shot one, shot early models which did have issues, or base their belief on what a buddies told him about his friends cousins hi-point.

    Yes you can easily find a gun for $50 to $150 more that is better in a number of ways. For a lot of us that really is not a lot of money. For the people that NEED a gun in this price range that money might represent several months of food. A gun at any price is a huge investment for them. Can you come up with good reasons to buy I different gun, of course you can. But you circumstances are probably different then many who by hi points.

    I personally purchased a used C9 several months ago for about half of current street price. It even came with a case. I have about 300 rounds down it. No failures at all. Rasonabliy accurate. Cheap so if I want to use it as a truck gun I will. I keep a full magazine, a flash flight, and a box of ammo in the case that it came with as a just in case gun. Would I purchase a new one. Probably not, but again my circumstances are different than many who choose to exercise there second amendment right by purchasing a hi point.

    • ‘Based on talking to owners’….Careful with that. Don’t know too many who’ll readily admit they were wrong and made a bad purchase

      • fair enough, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt since every one I have talked to was at the range and I was watching them shoot their Hi Point.

  30. reason #99.
    People that have never learned to shoot on “high quality” guns are usually pretty darn accurate with a Hi Point. Just watch the newbies at the range – jealous much?

    • I will say that atleast the hi point is full sized and handles recoil much better then other bargain guns. My first handgun was a kel tec pf9 and it taught me to flinch( anticipate) the round. I am sure I would have overcome it except it hurt so much I never put 3 mags through it in a row.

  31. She isnt ugly, she;s a High Point…lol

    If ugly guns didnt sell Glock would be out of business…lol

    I wonder how many of the guys who say they wouldnt own a High Point because its ugly will post pics of their wives, just saying…. lol

    • Operators who could wait around for Congressional Budget Approval for the Op.

      1) That was an awesome video : D
      2) What the heck was that cat noise about 1/2 way through? 🙂

  32. Hi-Points are to firearms design what Olive Garden is to Italian food. They’ll get the job done and . . . that’s about it

    Going to the Olive Garden is like you showed up at a restaurant and said to the hostess: “Hi, I’d like to buy some food, please.” And she replied, “Oh, that’s wonderful, we’re a food restaurant! What color would you like?”

    It’s sort of like how people end up with a Chrysler Sebring. “I’d like a car, please….”

  33. hi point is the greg louganis of the firearms world…

    greg louganis is a pretty good diver…

    doesnt make him any less gay…

    just sayin…

  34. BIG, ugly, HEAVY, crude. What’s not to like?

    If I need a cheap throw-down, I’ll take my old Argentine Browning Hi-Power that I bought used for $200 or a used Ruger, or… ANYTHING else.

    A Hi-Point would be my LAST choice.

  35. The spelling and grammatical errors in this article proves that they are either trolling us or I shouldn’t listen to anything they have to say. Either way, I’m never buying a Hi-Point.

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