Capitol Police Leaving Their GLOCKs Wherever They Damn Well Please

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“’The Department takes very seriously all breaches of Department rules and has established policies that address such matters,’ said Lt. Kimberly Schneider.” The “such matters” Lt. Schneider’s talking about is a rash of shockingly casual firearms handling practices by the Captiol Police as detailed in a rollcall.com article. That GLOCK stuffed in the toilet seat cover dispenser above was left by a member of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s security detail in a Capitol Visitor Center stall back in January. An 8-year-old found another pistol. . .

in the bathroom of House Speaker John Boehner’s office suite. That one was a left behind by a “dignitary protection officer.” And a third unattended GLOCK was found by a janitor when he was tidying up Capitol Police HQ last month.

How often do officers leave their guns unattended around the Capitol complex? The answer is unknown because Capitol Police are not required to disclose such incidents. The Jan. 29 incident went out over the radio system, but the other two have been kept quiet, based on conversations with nine Capitol Police employees from various divisions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal issues. None seemed surprised, and two offered other examples of officers who were investigated for leaving their guns unsecured or unattended.

Such lax gun-handling practices must result in some pretty stiff penalties, no? As Lt. Schneider’s statement makes clear, we’ll never know.

“Each disciplinary matter is thoroughly investigated and reviewed, employees are held accountable for their conduct, and they are provided due process in adjudicating these matters. Depending on the nature and seriousness of the violation, an employee’s record, and other ‎required considerations, an appropriate penalty is applied, up to and including termination of employment. As a matter of policy, the Department does not routinely discuss internal personnel matters, in order to maintain the integrity of the Department.”

Maybe part of the reason the gyrocopter wacko who landed outside the capitol wasn’t shot down is that no one who was in charge of security could locate their weapon. As we like to say around here, you’re your own first responder. That’s advice anyone who works on Capitol Hill will want to take to heart.

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  1. avatar M9A1MAN says:

    Only cops should be allowed to own guns. Oh wait…

    1. avatar Stinkeye says:

      Even if they only allowed cops to have guns, at the rate these morons are leaving their heaters in toilet stalls and other public places, we’d all be armed up again (at taxpayer expense) in no time.

      1. avatar Jody says:

        Oh no, the leniency would stop immediately if somebody actually took one of the guns, and the capital police found out about it. THEN, there would be hell to pay!

        They get some ridiculing around the office. You get every charge pressed they can come up with.

        Sound about right?

  2. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

    If you are sitting down on the toilet your pants will make a impromptu gun hammock.

    Even if you forget the smoke wagon is there, pull up your pants, and go about your business, the gun will be coming with you.

    1. avatar Mark Lloyd says:

      That is exactly what I do. It would be a neat trick to forgot your weapon when it’s laying in the inside crotch area of your underwear and pants.

      1. avatar Mary Land says:

        Inna hood we call dat teh Ball-2-moar.

    2. I made this video specifically for you guys the last time this subject came up.

      https://youtu.be/tcQUo5NSUBw

    3. avatar MarkPA says:

      . . . the gun will be coming with you.” Unless it’s a Glock; in which case, it might go off with you.

      1. avatar PW in KY says:

        Winner of the “passively constructed negligent discharge comment of the day” award.

  3. avatar dh34 says:

    Damn…not a single one of the crappers I’ve used in the House and Senate office buildings had one of those nifty Glock dispensers on the wall…That’s some pro-2A sh!t there…

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      Yeah, whenever I see one of them there’s nothing left in them but the paper wrappers. . .and sometimes not even those.

    2. avatar T-DOG says:

      They are free cowboy hat dispensers.

      1. avatar Pieslapper says:

        No, those are Hillary campaign hats.

  4. avatar Sammy says:

    Hmmmmmmmmm. Short term memory loss. These guys from Colorado???

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      As in “Dude! Where’s my Glock?”

      1. avatar Sammy says:

        Brilliant.

  5. avatar JohnO says:

    Take away the Capitol Police gun rights. For the children!

  6. avatar Pascal says:

    “As a matter of policy, the Department does not routinely discuss internal personnel matters, in order to maintain the integrity of the Department”

    Seems to me, if your hiding information, that is not integrity — sounds more like they are trying to hide facts that will embarrass them.

    1. avatar Wood says:

      Exactly. This is just CYA so the general public (and the politicians?) don’t figure out how inept the Capitol Police are.

  7. avatar Bill Kohnke says:

    Just remark the latrines ‘Capitol Washroom and Armory”. Problem solved.

  8. Was that a Glock or did someone miss the toilet?
    This should have been a weekend photo caption contest.

    1. avatar WJ762 says:

      OK I even laughed at that—and I love GLocks.

  9. avatar Silentbrick says:

    So this is my understanding…..

    Capitol police and others are leaving free glocks to whoever finds them first? So we should go wander the capitol building bathrooms searching for slightly used, already loaded free Glock brand glocks and possible other prizes?

    Wonder if the wife is up for a trip?

    1. avatar Gatha58 says:

      What is really scary is that nobody mentions that someone else, that is not supposed to have a weapon, could find these and use one of them. Seems like incidents like this should not be a secret. The more we know the more we can hold someone responsible. Why are the employees that did this exempt from any kind of reprimand or punishment? How brain dead do you have to be to forget to put your weapon back where it belongs ? I would think that a firing anyone who did this might just get the others to think twice and remember to retrieve their weapon when leaving the bathroom.

      1. avatar Happy Camel says:

        What do you mean by someone finding it that is not supposed to have a weapon?

        1. avatar Nick says:

          Depending on the location within DC, that could pretty much be anyone other than secret service and Capitol police. Imagine if a wacko visiting congress found one in the bathroom there and went to the gallery for some target practice.

  10. avatar GuyFromV says:

    Its a risk/reward deal, if you see one – grab it, just be aware of the downside of the possibility of being caught with a gun in the Capitol Visitor Center.

  11. avatar Tom W. says:

    Those “G” duty guns after all, are so leetle, and compact, one hardly even knows they are openly carrying one.

    Reminds me of the Seattle cop that left his AR on the closed trunk of his patrol car.
    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-police-embarrassed-by-rifle-left-unattended-on-cruiser-1/

    But they are the professionals.

  12. avatar John L. says:

    So a proposed question of the day:

    If you found a “number two special” would you keep it, turn it in, or…?

    1. avatar Wood says:

      Several things are tempting… Throw it the bowl and play battleship? Keep mag, chambered round, and recoil assembly? Call Fox News?

      1. avatar Accur81 says:

        Put a 9mm round in a .40 cal? Remove the rounds from the mag and put them in backwards? Upgrade the crappy recoil spring with stainless steel or tungsten? Replace the crappy plastic sights with Trijicon HD? Alternate snap caps and live rounds? The possibilities are nearly endless.

        I see a possibility – how about a 3 day suspension without pay? And if the cops lies about the incident, termination from employment seems appropriate. If this happened to John Q. Taxpayer, it’d probably be 6 O’clock news.

        1. avatar Wood says:

          How about posting their picture on the net with a hand written sign saying, “I left my loaded gun in a public place where kids and criminals could find it”. Like pet shaming.

          All joking aside, this sort of mistake needs real disciplinary action, and it should not be swept under the rug.

  13. avatar Ralph says:

    Leaving guns in toilets is really no big deal compared to the LAX airport Barney Fifes, who left a stick of dynamite laying around unattended for four days.

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/04/30/workers-at-lax-find-live-stick-of-dynamite-at-airport-museum/

  14. avatar Indiana Tom says:

    Lt. Schneider’s talking about is a rash of shockingly casual firearms handling practices by the Capitol Police . This is why only Police and Military should only be allowed to have guns, as they are all highly trained and responsible agents of the state. He, he, he, haw..

  15. avatar Buffalo_bob says:

    If I ever find someones gun in the shitter like that, im throwing it in the toilet and shitting all over it…. no courtesy flush either! Then im walking away
    On second thought, thats a bit over the top but itd sure be funny

    1. avatar Bob says:

      That’s awesome. Laughed out loud

  16. avatar ghost says:

    Only well trained professionals should have firearms. The rest of us just need to lock ourselves away in fortified houses, drive armored vehicles, work in highly secure areas, send kids to walled schools with the draw bridges and castle gates. Let freedom ring. They need a firearm they can carry their money and credit cards in, bet they would check and see if they still had them more often. It’s just stupid beyond words.

  17. avatar Chris T from KY says:

    ” never reported ” , Government employees are special.

  18. avatar Anonymous says:

    Nice. Right in the ass-gasket dispenser.

    1. avatar 16V says:

      As equal opportunity employers, I wonder how many guns are found in/on the lunchbox on the ladies side?

  19. You know, the revelation for me here is the fact that you can use those dispensers as gun racks. Thanks TTAG!

  20. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    If I found one I’d be the proud owner of a GLOCK brand GLOCK!

  21. avatar Excedrine says:

    That janitor could have gotten a free Glock and a standard-capacity mag to go with it. Such a shame.

  22. avatar Paul53 says:

    Seems like the DC gun ban should be extended to the police. Watching TV, seems like police nationwide are getting their time in the barrel.

  23. avatar Paul53 says:

    Question: if you find a LEO’s forgotten weapon, should you return it without the magazine for the cop’s own safety?

  24. avatar Sian says:

    Apparently capitol police do not have to report lost firearms.

    Just let that sink in.

  25. avatar Bob says:

    See, proof the glock is an unloved hunk of plastic with no soul. If it was a 1911 it never would have been left behind. 😉

  26. avatar JetJockChunk says:

    Wow! That’s pretty obvious. How does one not realize that?

  27. avatar James Stewart says:

    I like to hang hang my belt on the handicap bar or toilet paper dispenser and have my firearm holstered and on the belt. That way nobody can peek at my pants and see it plus I’m not going to forget my belt and gun hanging there in plain sight whilst my pants fall down.

  28. avatar damarius ilion says:

    Bunch of jackasses!!!!!

  29. avatar Out_Fang_Thief says:

    Oh, sure, and meanwhile, we the people, are the ones the nanny state is trying to disarm?
    How does one miss not having their gun poking them in the side, low back, appendix, or armpit? It’s one of the unavoidable realities of carrying a firearm,…there is no system that doesn’t affect your physical comfort….at least none that I have found. Not enough to not realize you aren’t carrying it.

  30. avatar Hannibal says:

    “Maybe part of the reason the gyrocopter wacko who landed outside the capitol wasn’t shot down is that no one who was in charge of security could locate their weapon…”

    I’m pretty sure the reason is that they would have had to suffer months of CNN coverage asking why on earth they shot down a harmless geriatric riding a gyro-toy.

  31. avatar Sheepdog6 says:

    “Hey we’re all professionals here” says unknowingly unarmed police officer.

    Seriously, I really would love for a PO who left his gun in a stall to need it and reach for air.

  32. avatar Rick Eyerly says:

    I think some of these officers need to get “flushed”.

  33. avatar Chadwick P. says:

    I wish the bathrooms I went to gave out free guns…

  34. avatar LordGopu says:

    So some wacko might find one and shoot of few of the politicians? Is there a downside here I’m not seeing? :p

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