Even before the Sydney siege reached its bloody conclusion, we predicted that Australian antis would find a way to use the attack as an anti-gun talking point. This despite the fact that anyone in their right mind wouldn’t want to be unarmed in a cafe when a shotgun-wielding jihadi strolled in on a suicide mission. And by “right mind” I mean anyone who understands that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. As happened here, eventually. As it always does – unless the bad guy tops himself (with a gun, usually). Anyone who “gets” the simple fact that the sooner someone, anyone, eliminates a lethal threat. the safer everyone will be. And (almost done) the more armed someones there are about, the less likely an attack and the faster its resolution. Australian antis don’t see it that way . . .
Many people are writing to me rejoicing that there is a hostage situation in Sydney. That they are somehow happy that it’s not in America and it will in some way prove that them having guns is a good thing.
There will always be guns in every country, what I “joke” about is gun control. Let’s look at the facts. Some religious nut goes into a cafe in Sydney and holds some people hostage with a shotgun (which is legal to own in Australia if you are a farmer).
I don’t now what the end result of this stand off will be, but I do know this, he will only shoot that shotgun once before the police will be in there.
This is a piss weak terrorist at best.
If this happened in the USA the guy would have semi automatic weapons and hand guns that could easily kill many people in a short period of time.
It seems to me that gun control in Australia is working better than ever.
That’s Aussie-born, LA-based comedian Jim Jefferies’ response to the incident on Facebook. I doubt that no one – not one person – wrote to Jefferies “rejoicing” about the hostage situation. Anyway, the fact that Man Haron Monis didn’t have a semi-automatic rifle or handguns doesn’t mean that Australian gun control minimized the attack by making it harder to obtain same. In other words, Monis could have obtained these weapons if he’d wanted to. Yes, even in Australia.
The Australian Crime Commission (ACC) conducted an investigation into illegal firearms in 2012 and has presented some of the unclassified findings in its submission to the Senate inquiry (pdf).
The ACC estimated there were over 250,000 rifles and shotguns and 10,000 handguns in the illicit market in 2012.
That may not seem like a lot of illegally owned rifles for a country of 23 million inhabitants, but it’s enough to keep the criminals in business. Back in August of 2013, ballinaadvocate.com.au reported that New South Wales police confiscated over 9,000 guns and charged 3,352 people with firearms offenses during a 12-month period. Believing that Monis’ firearms options were limited by Australian gun laws is seriously, dangerously delusional.
As is the belief that an attacker armed with “just” a shotgun doesn’t pose a threat of mass casualties. Three words: Washington Navy Yard, where spree killer Aaron Alexis murdered twelve people with a shotgun and injured three others.
What is undeniable: Australia’s s gun control laws have disarmed the general populace. The nation founded by convicts is now solidly perhaps even rabidly anti-gun. I mean, what are we to make of this (via fusion.net)?
Philip Alpers, a professor at the Sydney University School of Public Health, said that’s not likely to change. He said most Australians would still agree with Howard, the conservative former prime minister who instituted the gun laws.
“There are only a handful of Australians who might suggest that having more guns inside that café would have made the situation less dangerous,” Alpers said. He added that if anyone suggested more guns were the answer, “he’d be howled down and become a laughingstock across the country.”
To which Proverbs has a reply: “If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.” No joke.