We Demand Numbers from Moms Demand Action

Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America West Virginia Chapter Leader Dee Price Childers (courtesy facebook.com)

“I asked. She wouldn’t say. I didn’t press.” That’s reporter Lydia Nuzum’s reply to “Why didn’t you ask the head of the West Virginia Chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America (MDA) how many members they have?” I made the enquiry after reading Nuzum’s W.Va. chapter of anti-gun moms’ group still going one year later. It’s based on an interview with MDA’s WV “leader” Dee Price Childers [above]. While the West Virginia Gazette reporter didn’t have a grasp of (or interest in) the size of the State MDA chapter she was more than happy to accept MDA founder Shannon Watts’ claim of national membership . . .

“The organization, which has more than 125,000 members nationwide has worked toward enacting legislation that would require background checks for those purchasing guns or ammunition.”

MDA wants background checks for ammo purchases (an idea shelved but not abandoned by New York’s SAFE Act)? Who knew? More to the point, how many of MDA’s 125k members live in West Virginia? What constitutes an MDA “member” anyway? Nuzum didn’t have a clue. So I called Ms. Childers.

“So much of it is an online thing for us,” Childers told me. OK, sure. If you include “on-line members” how many do you have? “I don’t have a number,” she replied.

I politely pressed the point, asking her for a rough estimate of her group’s support in The Mountain State. “I can’t really say. I have to wait until the dust settles [from the response to her recent letter to the editor]. Call me again in two weeks.” Ten members? “Oh no, more than that.” Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands? “Closer to a dozen.”

Huh. That’s a lot of positive press coverage for 12 people. Especially when you consider the fact that the National Rifle Association claims tens of thousands of dues-paying West Virginia members.

Of course, it’s not all about numbers; fringe, not-to-say extremist groups deserve media attention too. But it should be noted that none of Ms. Childers’ West Virginia “members” pay any dues to Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. According to Childers, her supporters might make a contribution to the national organization, but that’s not a requirement to be counted as an MDA member.

“We’re putting together a feet-on-the-ground program,” Ms. Childers told TTAG. If the turnout for past MDA rallies are any indication that’s going to be a very heavy lift. If the past media coverage of past MDA demos is any indication, reporters will provide cover for this “enthusiasm gap” by studiously avoiding wide-angle shots. But print and TV journalists really should relay attendance numbers. It’s simple common sense.


  1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

    so much for a certain W.Va reporter winning a Pulitzer for a hard-hitting in-depth piece on the scourge of gun owners . . . . .

    1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      but in other news . . . . Mother Jones announced today that it has hired a W. Va correspondent to help round out their critical news coverage in the coal state. Their new correspondent, Lydia Nuzum, will be located inside Sen. Joe Manchin’s W. Va district offices. Said Sen Manchin, “Boy, this will really make it easier for me to give out interviews with Lydia across the hallway and all . . . .”

  2. avatar dwb says:

    like the Obama care people, I bet they have a pretty loose definition of members.

  3. avatar George Washington says:

    Keep that shit out of beautiful WV. That must be the only 12 people against guns in the entire state

    1. avatar Bluesman007 says:

      Including Joe Manchin

    2. avatar GS650G says:

      Maybe 12 if you include people from Chicago passing through on the highway

  4. avatar Matt in FL says:

    I’m impressed that she went so far as to say “closer to a dozen.”

    1. avatar Roscoe says:

      Certainly Bloomberg’s people will dispatch an operative to remedy Ms. Childers’ lack of preparation for deflecting any questions that might deflate the MAIG – MDA message or expose it for the theater it is.

  5. avatar trob09 says:

    “This one goes to eleven”
    – Nigel Tufnel

    1. avatar Freeheel says:

      Because eleven is one higher than ten. Awesome flick

  6. avatar chuck (hates nj) says:

    I posted it in the “we are all Claire’s mother article” I’m wondering if they’re getting their 130kmembers figure from the 132k facebook likes. Its rare that we see them with more than a dozen members at any given time.

    1. avatar mirgc says:

      My theory is that:
      ~33% are gun-activities keeping an eye on MDA
      ~33% are news organizations
      ~33% are gun control activists who like any facebook page that is anti gun
      ~1-2% who are genuine, actual members of MDA

      1. avatar GS650G says:

        1 of them is Dirk keeping an eye on his woman

  7. avatar ShaunL says:

    To be fair, the MSM doesn’t usually report the ACTUAL number of supporters at pro-gun rallies albeit for a completely different reason.

    Why should we expect them to tell the truth about this after watching them vehemently deny the truth about the other?

    1. avatar Ing says:

      Somebody on TTAG said it in Russian the other day — I’ll repeat it in English.

      There’s no news in the truth and no truth in the news.

      And that is the truth.

  8. avatar DrVino says:

    Too bad Lydia Nuzum is not one of those “illegitimate” journalists DiFi is going after….

  9. avatar David says:

    Can someone please give these moms some action! They have been demanding it for a long time now. Will someone – anyone – give it to them? Santa you reading this?

    1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      Shannon can sit on my lap and we can discuss how naughty she needs to be to get in Santa’s little black book.

  10. avatar Adam H. says:

    Reporting in from the Mountain State. Our local journalism sucks in all forms. The strain of liberalism is creeping in from the eastern panhandle due to the DC commuters. Charleston (my home area) is being influenced by the capitol city government. I will bet that her numbers stay small but they will get the lion share of attention. The West Virginia Citizens Defense League has a good grass roots head start. This also means I gotta quit messing around and join them. I wonder if Childers is a transplant from another state? She must not know our state motto Montani Semper Liberi…Mountaineers are always Free.

    1. avatar WV Cycling says:

      WVCDL is one of the greatest NPOs in the state. I donate to them every year. They really do work hard to protect our rights and even expand our rights.

      1. avatar gloomhound says:


  11. avatar Vhyrus says:

    the title of this article made me blow soda all over the table at subway. thanks assholes.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      It’s Subway. It’s not like the tables weren’t sticky already.

  12. avatar Ing says:

    They don’t need members. They have money and the McMedia loves them.

  13. avatar gloomhound says:

    West Virginia Citizens Defense League can field more members than that in any small town in “West By God” than they say they have in the entire State.

  14. avatar mirgc says:

    “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

    Rule #1, Saul D. Alinsky, Rules for Radicals

  15. avatar Ralph says:

    “We’re putting together a feet-on-the-ground program”

    I think she meant Pants-on-the-Ground.

  16. avatar Fred says:

    MDA doesn’t require dues because children can’t pay dues. Churches operate on an each-one-bring-one basis, MDA operates on an each-one-bring-four, the four being children. They depend on the pitter-patter of little feet for their “feet-on-the-ground program”. Ms. Childers is a rather funny name in the context of MDA since she probably doesn’t have any children, yet has “child” in her name.

    Hard to believe they want to compare an organization numbered mostly by children, dead people, or imaginary people with an organization that dwarfs them with actual dues-paying adult members, let alone it’s not the only pro-gun organization.

  17. avatar Jim Barrett says:

    TTAG has got to be Mom’s Demand Action’s greatest asset. I read a lot more about that group here than anywhere in the MSM. I suspect that if we stopped writing a new post every time Shannon burped, this group would fade into further obscurity. I thought we took a poll on this topic a month or two ago and agreed to ease back on the coverage of these nut jobs. The only reason that I can see that TTAG continues coverage is for the page views it brings from angry gun rights people.

    1. avatar WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot says:

      That, and to elicit Dirk’s comments. Which. Are. Priceless.

  18. avatar Don says:

    If every one of their youtube subscribers is a member, then they have less than 500 members.

  19. avatar LongBeach says:

    I thought I was going to find a post with pics of sexy MDA members whose phone numbers we were demanding, and I clicked instantly. But this, this is not that. I am disappointed.

  20. avatar Salwolff says:

    What protection is gained for children by passing a law requiring background checks on ammo? These moms are wasting so much time,and the children they care about are no better off.

    1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      but Shannon bought a dog and got an alarm system at her corporate HQ, I mean house, so there

      1. avatar Jus Bill says:

        Do not mock the Temple of Doom. You are now unwelcome in NYC. Until 1 January anyway.

  21. avatar Jus Bill says:

    “Closer to a dozen.”

    So that would make it a coven. That explains a lot.

  22. avatar Bob L says:

    The thing that really gets me is that more children are killed by drunk drivers every year than by firearms. Dead is dead. It doesn’t matter how you got that way so why not work on the item that would yield the most results? Many have and I hope they do figure out a way to keep people from driving while intoxicated. But when it comes back around to guns – the number of actual legal owners of guns who caused a child’s death is very, very small. Of course it is a tragedy when any one is killed, especially a child. But there are somewhere around 311 million people in the U.S. And at least 85 million are gun owners. If even 5000 incidents involving legal gun owners occurred (which I’m not saying they do but if they did) that would be a whopping .00005% of legal gun owners. And, let’s say that 50,000 murders were done by non-legal gun owners. That would be .00016% of the total population. Of course it sucks to be one of those .00016% or .00005% but really? There isn’t as big of a problem as anyone makes it out to be. Ridiculous.

  23. avatar Venator Magnus says:

    I would venture to say that “when the dust settles” (i.e. when push comes to shove) Moms Demanding Illegal Action from Mayors has less than 500 people nationwide that would be willing to contribute time and money toward the organization. They had a perfect storm for demanding disarmament after Sandy Hook and they failed abysmally. It wasn’t just a loss by a few close votes. The overwhelming majority of Americans consider the likes of Watts and Bloomberg to be among the most vile, disgusting political hacks of this generation. Within two years, this organization will cease to exist.

  24. avatar Doc 03911 says:

    I did this a couple of months ago, October 2013 via FB search of individual MDA state page likes. All had the official MDA logo as their profile pic.

    CA-2482/413/566 (various location pages)
    NY-2487/1132 (various location pages)
    OR-4/1226 (various location pages)
    PAC Islands-20
    Dads for MDA-1058


    MDA Main Page: 114,949

  25. avatar Rich7553 says:

    As Doc 03911 has pointed out, the MDA claims 125K “members”, however that number in reality is the number of “likes” on their facebook page. This is hardly an expression of membership.

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