Defensive Gun Use of the Day: Size Matters Edition

What’s the bet that West Seattle shopkeeper Robert Moore saw Crocodile Dundee. Specifically the scene where the Aussie-out-of-water tells a would-be Big Apple mugger, “That’s not a knife. That’s a knife.” The difference here: it’s a gun vs. gun comparo (duh) and Mr. Moore didn’t really have a big gun after all. I mean the Dan Wesson is a nice gun. But it’s not a big gun. Hold on. Hey, tell me you weren’t hoping he was going to reach down and brandish a 12-gauge. Hang on; isn’t that a Ruger LC9 Bobby Boy proffers at the end of the piece? Clearly, he was bluffing. But one thing’s for sure: there’s nothing small about the size of the man’s testicles. Just sayin’ . . .


  1. I couldn’t get the above link to work.

    If the guy would of had an AK pistol on a sling it probably would have deterred the assailants. I recommend AK pistol carry, I have not been assaulted by any except cops when I carried mine.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      The YouTube link? Works fine for me.

    2. avatar Ing says:

      The cops are a far more dangerous foe to antagonize.

    3. avatar RealitiCzech says:

      Aren’t you the silly ass that was waltzing around a park with an AK pistol painted like an airsoft?

  2. avatar Cliff H says:

    All I can say to this is, shirt-tail out – ON BODY CARRY!

    Other reports were that he thought the robber was carrying a fake gun. If not it’s just dumb luck he wasn’t shot when he turned around.

    1. avatar Ing says:

      I thought about that, too. Turning around like that is just asking to be shot if the bad guy has a real gun. Judging by how fast they took off — almost before he started to reach for his piece — they probably did only have a fake.

      I also thought about what might have happened if I had been in the customer’s place when something like that happened. Would I have had the same this-can’t-be-real paralysis, or would I have acted? If I had acted, that would-be robber would probably have been dead, fake gun and all. I wouldn’t have paused to see whether it was real or just a realistic fake, let alone make a quip about gun size, I can tell you that.

      1. avatar GrumpyF'er says:

        “Would I have had the same this-can’t-be-real paralysis, or would I have acted? If I had acted, that would-be robber would probably have been dead, fake gun and all.”

        I addition to occasional what-if scenarios I run in my head, I also think about the above comment. If you pause, are you dead? What if they only want to the money? In this case, not your money. Yes, it sucks to allow low-lifes to “win,” but if you shoot, your life will change substantially.

        Best case: justifiable. Reports are files, you walk away.

        Not best case possibilities (one, many, or all): you are arrested, maybe charged. Your firearm is impounded as evidence. You may or may not temporarily lose you right to carry. You might lose your job (absent too long, arrest record issues, employer doesn’t like guns…or people that shoot other deserving people, even if justified). So now you’re out of work. With the economy as it is, and now you shot someone, good luck with finding a new job. How will you pay your bills an support your family? etc.

        Whether you’re now unemployed or not…you have legal expenses. And you be spending time away from work defending yourself. Both are expensive.

        Oh, and was there any collateral good-guy damage in your decision? Your shooting the perp might cause him to pull his trigger shooting/killing the store owner or customer. That would be bad.

        So, fear of imminent bodily harm, shots fired, or hostage situation, YES, I will likely get involved. If they only want the loot, that’s what insurance is for. BEING A GOOD WITNESS is a vital service to get the perp(s) off the street without firing a shot. No matter how justified you think it is in the moment, lawyers, juries and the courts will have MONTHS to parse this and you might not win.

        This happened in Seattle, not know to be gun friendly. The mayor is currently strong-arming business owners to put up free-fire zone signs in their windows. How will a jury react?

        If this took place in one of many large metro areas, let’s be honest here, statistically the perp will likely be black, and the jury will be substantially black. Your odds of getting off just dropped.

        As you run your firearm “what-ifs,” take the time to think through the less interesting aftermath issues as well.

  3. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

    I wish he actually had bigger, nicer guns than that.

  4. avatar jwm says:

    Could that be the much dreaded .9mm?

    1. avatar jwm says:

      After I leave a comment to 16v you guys change the blooper in the post and delete 16v’s comment, leaving me to twist. Thanks, thanks a lot.

      1. avatar Matt in FL says:

        We aim to please. That doesn’t always mean to please you. Sometimes leaving you to twist pleases me.

        1. avatar jwm says:

          Keep pleasing yourself and you’ll go blind.

        2. avatar peirsonb says:

          You guys keep that up and my wife won’t let me hang out here anymore….

        3. avatar Matt in FL says:

          It amuses me that they’re all de-linked because the original comment was deleted.

        4. avatar 16V says:

          Once again proving the validity of the Stanford Prison Experiment…

        5. avatar Russ Bixby says:

          And your palms’ll turn hairy…

      2. avatar 16V says:

        JWM, Sorry they left you to twist. I seldom have time to visit anymore, and when I do I can be a bit too opinionated for the current direction things are going… (That and sometimes I’m an eh-hole.)

        Edit: It wouldn’t even let me reply to your post, it stuck me down here. Ahh, it’s good to be loved.

  5. avatar Ralph says:

    I don’t think I’d be exchanging clever bon mots in the middle of a robbery. That store guy may have a surfeit of guts, but he has a dearth of brains.

    1. avatar vioshi says:

      Sometimes if you do the unexpected it throws them off their game. The robber, just like the customer, wasn’t mentally prepared for the crime and didn’t know how to react. You got to call it as you see it. That said, the clerk had no excuse for not having it on his person.

      PS> what about OPSEC? I know exactly what guns he has and where he keeps them just from this shot clip.

  6. avatar Rmoore68W says:

    What revolver is that?

    1. avatar Leadbelly says:

      Dan Wesson. Somebody on Armslist has one for sale for $350.00. That one is marked High Standard, but Dan Wesson made them, High Standard just re-branded them. They are really nice revolvers. I’d buy the one on Armslist if it wasn’t Christmas time and I hadn’t just bought a rifle.

  7. avatar Albaniaaaaa says:

    “Mine’s bigger than yours.”

    hahaha what a ballsy comment when one has a gun pointed at them.

  8. avatar Anonymous says:

    Nice. No proof it wasn’t a real gun or a fake. If it wasn’t a real gun – then they better split before the cashier returns ready to fire. It’s clear that even if the crooks gun was real, they didn’t feel some small petty cash was a good trade for the risk of the death penalty or a life’s sentence and decided to split.

    There is the off chance their gun was real and they would proceed against all risks and it could have gone a lot worse than it did as the cashier was unprepared and didn’t have his gun on him and was not ready when the ski masks came through the door. This is prime situation where it is better for him (unprepared) to temporarily follow their direction – And the conceal carrying customers alleviate the situation. I wish everyone carried. It would be a lot safer.

  9. avatar soccerdad1150 says:

    In case anyone cares, this is my favorite area of TTAG. DGU rules! Good on the shop keeper.

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