Brazil Pizza Robbery “Shootout.” Instant Justice? by Robert Farago | Oct 19, 2013 | 87 comments facebook twitter linkedin email So much for “put your hands up” or “secure the perimeter.” Fair enough? [h/t Danny] comments Phydeaux says: October 19, 2013 at 10:13 Let’s see… Armed robbers threatening serious bodily harm or death – check Pizza store full of potential hostages – check Street with innocent citizens, also potential hostages – check While pretty brutal, this appears to be justified. Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 10:17 Pretty much agree. Reply Anonymous says: October 19, 2013 at 15:32 Agreed. Now publicize it everywhere so criminals will know what they will face for this kind of crap. Reply CK in CA says: October 19, 2013 at 20:52 Exactly! Remind criminals that there are consequences worse than prison time. Reply ready,fire,aim says: October 19, 2013 at 10:13 Frasier goes down…Frasier goes down…Frasier goes down Reply Chuck in IL says: October 19, 2013 at 11:12 Down goes Frazier Close though. http://youtu.be/JZEIMQ42-oU Reply jerry says: October 19, 2013 at 10:14 Damn!!!! Reply jerry says: October 19, 2013 at 10:15 And to answer the question, Yes, fair enough. Reply Jay In Florida says: October 19, 2013 at 10:19 Justice served Hot N Fast. Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 10:23 Both them helmet heads got extra pizza sauce with their order. Reply Mr Pierogie says: October 19, 2013 at 11:02 Talk about speedy delivery… Reply Mr. Bad Timing says: October 19, 2013 at 16:01 Reloads in 10 seconds or next, or your next magazine is free! Reply doesky2 says: October 19, 2013 at 10:24 I don’t think their helmets helped too much. I was expected the guy that walked in earlier to pop out from the back room. Very nice. Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 10:45 I think the helmets contributed to their demise. I think I saw the cop car slide right past the glass doors while the bad guys were right there. The helmets restricted their view and they never saw it. If they did they didn’t react to it. Reply Not So 1337 says: October 20, 2013 at 12:19 Absolutely. I always wear a balaclava when I rob pizza places. And I only go to Little Caesars, because it’s hot and ready for the taking! Reply John Fritz says: October 19, 2013 at 12:26 “… I was expected the guy that walked in earlier to pop out from the back room. …” That’s exactly what I was waiting for too. Thought for sure that guy grabbing the money was going to have a big hole in his chest. Surprise ending though. Reply Evan says: October 19, 2013 at 10:26 Lol that looked like the laziest robbery attempt ever. No one seemed to really care they were getting robbed. Also, good shooting on the officers part. Reply Stinkeye says: October 19, 2013 at 10:46 It’s Brazil. Probably not the first time this place has been robbed. But possibly the last, especially if they don’t scrub too hard on the bloodstains on the floor. Reply Accur81 says: October 19, 2013 at 12:51 And I might add, with grim satisfaction, that the chance of recidivism for these two dirtbags is 0%. Reply ErrantVenture11 says: October 19, 2013 at 10:27 Man, we have some trigger happy cops in Brazil. First the bike-jacker got gunned down in short order, then the pizza barons. Part of me says “Overkill,” the other part says “Efficient.” Reply Daniel Raidt says: October 19, 2013 at 10:45 You may call it trigger happy but I chose to call it you live by the sword you shall receive justice by the sword. Sorry no sympathy what so ever. Looks like the one in the white shirt will not be a burden on the taxpayers of Brazil Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 10:48 On the left frame of the video you can just see the second guys foot. He’s down and not moving. I’m going to assume they’re both room temperature. Reply Bob says: October 19, 2013 at 10:46 Once they start shooting cops often continue shooting at perps that are completely down and not moving or anything. The perp in the yellow helmet took a shot in the back after he was down and not going anywhere or doing anything. I’ve seen another vid of a cop shooting a guy in the back after he was shot several times, was not moving and was lying on the ground on his stomach. Just sayin. Not defending the perps, but cops are too trigger happy. Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 10:50 Hopefully, if you’re ever involved in a dgu you’ll do it right and perfect. Me, I’m willing to cut the good guys slack when dealing with clearly ID’d bad guys. Reply Daniel Raidt says: October 19, 2013 at 10:52 Really and how many innocent people going into the future did these trigger happy cops save ? Reply Conway Redding says: October 19, 2013 at 10:58 Too bad for the guy in the yellow helmet. Can’t say I’m exactly choked up with sympathy.over his taking a round in the back, if indeed he did. Kind of hard for me to tell. Reply Phydeaux says: October 19, 2013 at 11:10 Not every shoot is a good shoot. In this case the yellow helmet was trying to get up when he was shot for the last time. If both perps had hit the floor as soon as shooting started, perhaps the cop would have stopped shooting, perhaps not. The video shows the cop shooting until both threats were neutralized. Reply Jesse R Welling says: October 19, 2013 at 13:48 Officer couldn’t have known he wasn’t reaching for the other dudes gun… I wouldn’t have fired at that instant but would have circled to see his hands from his rear… That’s armchair quarterbacking. Paul McCain says: October 20, 2013 at 09:32 A person who makes a comment whining about “overkill” knows nothing about how to respond to an armed threat. You shoot until they are down and until they are no longer perceived to be a threat: whatever that takes. You shoot and then say, “Is he down? Are there any more?” Any doubt? Put a few more in him. That’s just reality. Reply Ray says: October 20, 2013 at 20:20 The last shot right at 1:00 seems to cinch the deal. Reply Conway Redding says: October 19, 2013 at 10:53 ErrantVenture11, you’re dead wrong if you think the “pizza barons” got shot. Watch the clip again. When the glass breaks, the folks who appear to be the pizza shop proprietors and/or sales staff immediately drop down behind the counter, and can be seen crawling away to safety to the right. Reply ErrantVenture11 says: October 19, 2013 at 16:51 I was referring to the robbers… Reply Pro2Aguy says: October 19, 2013 at 13:16 I have to respectfully disagree–If someone is willing to threaten innocent life with violence, thereby taking away their life not to mention the terrible pain inflicted on surviving family members, I say you live by the sword (or gun) you die by the same…To me this is justice but YMMV. Reply Cliff H says: October 19, 2013 at 13:43 How about this: If you are JUSTIFIED in using deadly force (and this was a text-book case), then you are justified in using force until it’s deadly. In this event, or any similar, why should any good guy be required to take the risk that Jason will rise from the supposed dead and sneak in a little retribution? If he’s worth shooting, he’s worth killing, and only the coroner can pronounce that he is actually dead and no longer a threat. It is best to have the whole thing on video, however, since shots to the back or head might attract the attention of some over-zealous anti 2A prosecutor. Reply ST says: October 19, 2013 at 10:39 Abso-damn-lutely justified. It would have only been better if the citizens were the ones pulling the trigger.As Jeff Cooper observed, the proper response to criminal violence is immediate counter violence. Reply Patrick says: October 19, 2013 at 10:40 I was going to ask to confirm if it was police who shot. Apparently it was. FYI, Google’s translation: “CCTV cameras show the action of two burglars in a pizzeria in the city of Botucatu, when caught by police. Read the full story in tomorrow’s edition (18/10/2013) newspaper Diário da Serra.” Reply ThePixelated says: October 19, 2013 at 10:42 Awesome JUSTICE! Reply Stinkeye says: October 19, 2013 at 10:44 I wonder how many shots the cops fired, and how that would compare to a similar situation if the NYPD or LAPD were involved. Reply ChuckN says: October 19, 2013 at 12:37 Regardless of the number of round fired, they’ve already proven themselves better marksmen. Not a single innocent bystander was shot. Reply Anon says: October 19, 2013 at 21:52 NYPD would have missed and hit half the people behind the counter. Reply Michael says: January 26, 2014 at 20:15 10, yellow guy took 6, black hit 3 center mass. Range was 3 meters. Reply Seek1234 says: October 19, 2013 at 10:45 solves inefficient/corrupt criminal justice system, solves jail overcrowding…. double DING! Reply Skyler says: October 19, 2013 at 11:00 Awesome! Dying like the feral pigs they are. Reply Tom in Oregon says: October 19, 2013 at 11:09 Well that was about the shortest ‘trial’ for armed robbery I’ve seen in a bit. Very efficient. Brutal, but efficient. Reply watchmenlewis says: October 19, 2013 at 11:24 an armed society is a polite society Reply Cliff H says: October 19, 2013 at 13:46 Well, the unarmed victims were definitely polite. Can’t say the same for the cop. Good for him. Reply OldBenTurninginGrave says: October 19, 2013 at 11:33 Like most of you, I can’t fault the cop for shooting. It was ugly, and I hope to never witness such a thing in person, but I can’t fault them. Reply Ralph says: October 19, 2013 at 11:35 A tasty dish of justice, delivered fresh and hot. Yum. Reply Bill says: October 19, 2013 at 11:39 as we say in Brazil: BELEZA! Reply Randy Cramer says: October 19, 2013 at 11:59 Dam good shooting Tex…seems like Brazil is the new wild west.. Reply TRUTHY says: October 19, 2013 at 12:08 looks good to me Reply DB Police says: October 19, 2013 at 12:12 the employees hardly showed any reaction to the robbers. I guess that could be because this is a common thing or maybe they hit a silent alarm. The Popo in Brazil can shoot straight at least. in Merica they would have had a hour long standoff ending with the entire store being peppered or two more residents of the penal system living on taxpayer money. Reply Barstow Cowboy says: October 20, 2013 at 03:34 No, in Merica they’d have paraded 10 or so MRAP’s down main street, shot every dog in sight, raided every house within a 5 mile radius of the crime scene, and then the grateful citizens would’ve thrown a parade for their conquerors as they drove away. Reply gs650g says: October 19, 2013 at 12:25 So much for negotiating and waiting for SWAT. No trial and no incarceration costs. There does appear to be property damage, the perps family should pay for that to make it right. Reply Cliff H says: October 19, 2013 at 13:47 The perps’ families should be required to clean the mess off the floor. Reply Barstow Cowboy says: October 20, 2013 at 03:36 I like the way you used that apostrophe to show plural possession. Reply uncommon_sense says: October 19, 2013 at 12:42 I have to wonder what firearm the police used. My guess is that they used a shotgun. That entire window shattered and I notices quite a large explosion of glass. Plus the fact that the criminals were down almost instantly. That seems like more than a handgun can dish out. Reply uncommon_sense says: October 19, 2013 at 12:48 Oh I just noticed at the very end of the video a policeman steps in with a handgun drawn. And, the criminals were not even visible in the store until about the 20 second point in the video … then the police were shooting the criminals within 40 seconds maximum. That is phenomenal response time. This had to have been by accident that the police just happened to be driving by and saw the robbery in progress through the window. Talk about an unlucky day for the robbers. Good riddance. Reply Cliff H says: October 19, 2013 at 13:51 The type of tempered glass used for plate glass shop windows will shatter like that when impacted. It’s very strong, but a sharp object or bullet passing through will cause it practically to explode into small fragments. Drop a Pyrex bowl sometime and watch what happens. There’s a lot of pressure built up inside that tempered shell Reply Joseph says: October 19, 2013 at 13:16 Booo fuking hoooo. Someone hand me a tissue. Reply Ralph says: October 19, 2013 at 17:31 No tissue. Napkin. Reply Joel says: October 19, 2013 at 13:18 I love happy endings. Sniff. Reply Bob5 says: October 19, 2013 at 13:23 Wow! Obviously, Brazil police do not give criminals a chance to surrender, and it seems like they do not have to worry about liability from wild shots. I am not saying I am against that, though, for I think two less criminals is a good thing. While serving as a Law Enforcement Specialist in the USAF in Germany, I witnessed a German police officer beat a guy senseless with a baton, and the guy was not resisting. During the Berlin air show, an Army MP had to tell a German police officer to stop and back away, for the Polzei officer was literally on top of this German beating him. German polzei at that time always carried their MP5s, which at the time, would have been unheard of in the US. I found out that it was normal for German police to use a level of force we considered excessive. It woke me up to the fact that police outside the US are a lot different. Except California, New York, and most large “blue” areas in the US, US police theoretically need to take the safety of the populace (and criminals) into consideration. If this shooting occurred here, a US court will ask why didn’t the police wait until the criminals finished walking outside, and then try to order them to drop the gun before firing. Further, if a bullet deflected off of the glass and hit a bystander, the court again will ask the same question. A US court would probably award the bystanders a huge sum of money, and the course would likely consider a manslaughter charge for the police officer. I am not advocating for the modern style of US justice, though. It just shows a different type of criminal justice system. Reply AJ187 says: October 22, 2013 at 05:27 Bob, that’s the most intelligent thing I’ve read about this incident amongst all the testosterone filled comments. Thanks for offering some perspective. Reply cubby123 says: October 19, 2013 at 14:02 No one want’s to ever see anyone get killed,but these guys choose that possible outcome,when you gamble sometimes you lose.They decided their own fate.The officer was justified in that he didn’t know if the threat was still capable and armed.Sad to watch but they knew the difference between right and wrong and they CHOSE to ignor it and paid with their lives. Reply NS says: October 19, 2013 at 14:40 yep. Reply Carlos U. says: October 19, 2013 at 15:53 I agree with you. They had it coming, but it’s always sad to see a human being dying. They look like young guys. Justice? Yeah. Sad? That too. Reply Fug says: October 19, 2013 at 14:05 Looked like three shots and then an officer with a handgun steps in, probably 9mm? Very impressive how fast those boys died, the blood pool and the other guy’s limp foot in the corner were magnificent. Reply tdiinva says: October 19, 2013 at 15:28 How many of you would be screaming police thugs if this happened in your neighborhood? Reply jwm says: October 19, 2013 at 15:30 Not me. Reply sean says: October 20, 2013 at 15:34 I think most of the non-chain pizza places in my area have their own guns. Reply jirdesteva says: October 19, 2013 at 17:19 GGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!! Reply SpkSnppr says: October 20, 2013 at 12:14 I’m not a soccer fan, but Damn that was good. Reply Frank McGhee says: October 19, 2013 at 17:26 That made me smile so much my jaw hurts. Instant justice, that taste is so sweet. Reply Ralph says: October 19, 2013 at 17:30 Culinary tip: their pizza will kill you too. Reply Cliff H says: October 19, 2013 at 20:02 Takes longer, tastes better than lead. Reply A-Rod says: October 19, 2013 at 17:48 I wonder if the Brazilian media showed 12 year old pictures of those older/teenager criminals? Reply WRH says: October 19, 2013 at 22:28 Probably not, but only because the cop wasn’t white. ….Oh wait, Zimmerman wasn’t either. Reply Mediocrates says: October 19, 2013 at 18:40 I am starting to like Brazil more and more. Reply Dubya Bee says: October 19, 2013 at 22:44 Re the helmets. I’m guessing mostly for masks and they were probably driving scooters or bikes as their getaway rides. Maybe they thought they were some kind of armor, but they’d be wrong if they thought helmets would work for bullets. I took a couple old motorcycle helmets out to the woods one day for the fun of it. Bullets saw them like they see paper. Helmets are made for blunt trauma. Bullets are anything but that. Reply PeterK says: October 19, 2013 at 23:09 Sad. 🙁 They chose their fate, though, I guess. Still sad. Not a good way to go. At all. Reply maynard biggs says: October 19, 2013 at 23:40 The end of the clip has sound — more than one type of gun? Reply jwm says: October 20, 2013 at 00:06 Looked like muzle flashes from more than one location to me. Reply gyrfalcon says: October 20, 2013 at 09:57 Money in cash register, $80. Blown out store windows, cleanup and shutdown of business…. $8000 Reply Daniel Raidt says: October 20, 2013 at 10:04 You left out cost of ammo, fuel for the police cars, police salaries, clean up and more important the money the Brazilian people saved by not having to incarcerate these two. Reply Dubya Bee says: October 20, 2013 at 16:17 Dead perps: priceless. Reply Liberty2Alpha says: October 20, 2013 at 14:11 Everyone in this video’s OODA loop is broken. Guys with guns? Meh. Robbing us? Meh. Exploding glass and gunfire? Stand still and do a little jig. As Dominic Toretto says in “Furious 6:” “This is Brazil!” Although I’ve learned this recently about Brazil: motorcycles are bad for your health. Reply Write a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.