Incendiary Image of the Day: NGVAC Anti-Gun Agitprop Edition

National Gun Victims Action Council Anti-Gun Agit Prop (courtesy

The National Gun Victims Action Council (NGVAC) posted the above image and link on its Facebook page. When gun bloggers highlighted the anti-gunners’ lack of decorum, jefe Elliot Fineman’s defended it: “We’re not worried about keeping things ‘Classy’ or even being politically correct. You gun-nuts are doing a fine job pleading your own case. Keep it up guys. We appreciate letting the public know exactly HOW mis-informed many people are and your paranoid rhetoric only helps others raise their awareness.” Needless to say, the NGVAC eventually pulled the post and the resulting non-apologia (screen captured by But it stands here as a testimony to the level of discourse provided by the civilian disarmament industrial complex. And another example of poor trigger discipline.


  1. avatar Craig says:

    Its better to be hated because you stood for something than it is to be loved because you bent over and took it like a collaborator.

    1. avatar mina says:

      [insert joke about wives needing to better collaborate with their husbands]


  2. avatar In Memphis says:


    hahahaha sooo funy. If your six.

    1. avatar John F says:

      Just let the perp. beat the S#!+ out of you, maybe you will DIE and he can get away, “they always do”

      1. avatar C says:

        Being a victim is similar to martyrdom to the leftist. To not be a victim is high heresy.

    2. avatar seren says:

      my six what?

      1. avatar Roll says:

        He is saying 6 years old. The average mental maturity level of the gunban crowd.

        1. avatar Jason says:

          I believe seren is pointing out the improper use of “your” instead of “you’re”.

    3. avatar mina says:

      most debates with these folks take the form of a 3rd grade playground tiff with a bunch of little girls.

  3. avatar Daniel Silverman says:

    Gee and here I thought the truth about guns was the truth about guns…
    Maybe they missed that memo!

    1. avatar Chuck Pelto says:

      And your point—specifically—is……WHAT?

  4. avatar Brian says:

    Just popped over to their site. There is a lot of forceful rhetoric about how they are done asking and want to compel things. The type of rhetoric that, on a gun-rights sight would be met with quite a bit of feigned outrage.

    1. avatar Jason says:

      Guns are bad…unless you use them to force conservatives and libertarians to do things the “correct” way…then they’re good.

  5. avatar jerry says:

    They are so cute, bless their little hearts.

  6. avatar William says:

    It was slightly funny. Compared to Fineman’s “explanatory” rhetoric, anyway.

    1. avatar Brian says:

      Yeah, but also the type of thing that would be co-opted by pro-RKBA types almost instantly.

  7. avatar disthunder says:

    Yup. I’m down for a NRA-hole t-shirt or too. Just needs a little cooler graphic.

    1. avatar Patrick says:

      “nrA-HOLE” hahaha
      Well, the “ng-Vac Sucks” hahaha
      … and the ad-hominem continues.

  8. avatar Bob says:

    If you have to resort to ad-hominems, it’s because you’ve already lost the argument.

    1. avatar Chuck Pelto says:


      The Lawyers Rule:

      [1] If the Law is against you, argue the facts.
      [2] If the facts are against you, argue the Law.
      [3] If the Law and the facts are against you, call the other side names.

      The Official Rules: A Compendium of Truths and Laws for Living

  9. avatar Jürgen says:

    Wait, how many criminals are members of NRA?

    I thought so.

  10. avatar Jus Bill says:

    Dija notice that the gun weilder looks black?


  11. avatar BDub says:

    I resent that! I am a 2ndA-Hole.

    This crap that really bothers me is the stupid pamphlet –

    “Your risk of being a victim is increasing!”

    Victim of what, being rescued from a violent assault by a law-abiding armed citizen (like the ones pictured in your pamphlet)?

    1. avatar BDub says:

      ARGH! the pamphlet also says…wait for it…….25% of gun sales are to criminals!!!!

      1. avatar Bob4 says:

        Amazing how the anti-2nd amendment crowd cannot open their mouth without inserting a lie somewhere.

      2. avatar SpeleoFool says:

        National Gun Guileless Victims Action Acceptance Council

        There, fixed it for them.

        “Your risk of being a victim is increasing!”*

        * with just one easy donation of $50 (example), you too can help NGVAC and become a victim! Blame strangers and inanimate objects for your problems! Disguise your feelings of helplessness by lashing out! Remember, naive good intentions are all it takes to be a good person.

    2. avatar JoshinGA says:

      I think I would rather have an enema than read that $hit.

      1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

        I’d rather have a frontal lobotomy.
        Wait, dang auto correct. I meant bottle infontome…

        1. avatar DonS says:

          Tom in Oregon or Tom T-Bone Stankus?

    3. avatar Jason says:

      “Your risk of being a victim is increasing!”
      When I saw this, I was really concerned…then I remembered that violent crime has been on a steep decline in the US for over two decades now.

  12. avatar Shire-man says:

    More than a little irony in being called “mis-informed” by a group whos entire base believes machineguns are flying off Walmart shelves without background checks to twelve year olds.

  13. avatar James says:

    Can we assume the NGVAC will be partnering with women’s groups for the “Lay Back and Try to Enjoy It” rape survivors symposium? Stop by the peeing on command session to learn how to fend off would be rapists, Colorado democrat style. Free whistles at the door!

  14. avatar Steve O says:

    Looks like they removed the page…

    1. avatar Roscoe says:

      To me that means they still don’t exist.

    2. avatar John Fritz says:

      Gone. Seems to be a trend.

  15. avatar AJ says:

    So let me get this straight – WE, the POTG – are the ones who are misinformed? Pardon the schit out of me then.

    Quick poll – has anyone here been a victim of a gun?

    1. avatar C says:

      The bolt on my mkIII bit my thumb pretty good one day during cleaning.

    2. avatar Gyufygy says:

      I get burnt powder up my nose sometimes. Makes for giggles the next time I blow my nose.

      1. avatar Avid Reader says:

        I get hit with hot brass at the range every now and then if someone’s at the next position to my left.

  16. avatar Charlie Johnson says:

    I don’t understand exactly how an angry mob that is by definition unarmed intends to forcibly remove weapons from those who are armed. Oh, I have an idea, they could create a separate class of folks (let’s call them, Homeland Security) for whom being armed is ok, and have them do it. Except what happens when this new class begins to have ideas of their own?

    1. avatar Jason says:

      You just need to make a new class of people to defend you from DHS. But eventually you end up swallowing cats and dogs with that philosophy. It’s easier to not swallow the fly.

  17. avatar Patrick says:

    I’ve been a victim of a gun… about 15 of them. You buy one and you think that’s enough until they stare you lovingly in the eyes and beg you to take them home. Then you’re the victim of being brainwashed by them until your’re raising a healthy sized family of 15 or more. Then its your wallet that’s the victim… so many hungry chambers… you simply cant afford to feed them all.
    At least I have a decent support group. Thanks, TTAG.

  18. avatar C says:

    Seriously considering making that my Facebook cover photo.

  19. avatar Roadrunner says:

    Actually they’re completely politically correct. It’s funny to see people who pretend to be brave, standing up to The Man, when The Man doesn’t even know they exist, and while their little cheerleaders are all cooing about how gutsy they are.

    Their assumptions are also pretty brain-dead too. The NRA is the villain because some psychopaths committed mass murder? The people these anti-gun extremists hate the most are those who are effective.

  20. avatar APBTFan says:

    And these are the same kind of folks bleating for a “reasoned debate”. I never took debate in high school but common sense would seem to preclude name calling when looking for a reasoned debate.

  21. avatar Blue says:

    They want to ban rifles, magazines, pistols and ammo and they call us paranoid.

  22. avatar RLC2 says:

    Occutard Vegan Anarko-Nazi’s with Daddy issues. Not that I am shrinking or calling names or anything.

    1. avatar Russ Bixby says:

      “Occutard Vegan Anarko-Nazi’s with Daddy issues.”

      I am so stealing that.

  23. avatar Russ Bixby says:

    “Shoot the moon…”

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