The Chinese Like Big Guns and They Cannot Lie

OK, yes, the Chinese can lie. Like politicians of every stripe, the Powers That Be in the People’s Republic of China view the truth as a function of obfuscation, repression and control. Why just the other day New York Times ran an article on the country’s “One-Child” policy that “reveals” that it doesn’t apply to wealthy or connected citizens. Otherwise . . . there have been millions of mandatory abortions. But I digress, wandering into This Is What Happens to A Disarmed Populace territory. Suffice it to say, the image of a Chinese soldier using BMG ammo against a human-shaped balloon is terrifying on all sorts of levels. As it was meant to be.


  1. avatar jwm says:

    You sure that’s a BMG round. That gun reminds me of the old 14.5mm anti tank rifles of ww2 vintage. Do the Chinese even inventory the BMG round?

    1. avatar Ronald Pottol says:

      Well, the USSR had both a 12.7 and 14.5 machine guns, so it could be either.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        True, and their version of the 12.7 was about 10 mm longer in the case than the American 12.7, the BMG.

    2. avatar Tommy Knocker says:

      The Russkie/Chinese heritage of 50’s is not the BMG but the 12.7 x 108. Its been around a long time.

  2. avatar Matt says:

    oh, relax robert. those guns weren’t designed to dispense long-distance hugs or deliver fresh cinnamon buns to sick kids. we all know what they’re made for. besides, i bet the entire chinese military has fewer 50 BMG kills than Chris Kyle.

    anyone have any idea on what optic system he’s running?

    1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

      Looks like range finding/ scope.
      Cross between a BORS and a Burris?

  3. avatar g says:

    Are these the same rifles that the Syrian resistance fighters are using?

    Everyone loves big guns… sadly, my pocketbook doesn’t measure up yet to the size of my love… haha.

    1. avatar CarlosT says:

      I could see maybe scraping together the cash eventually for a rifle. Maybe. Keeping it fed consistently would be the challenge. BMG is a pretty penny.

      1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

        API plinker reloads. I’m down to .96 cents each.
        Not super accurate, but really fun.

        1. avatar CarlosT says:

          What does “API” stand for? When I see that, I think armor-piercing incendiary, but somehow I can’t see that being cheaper plinking ammo.

        2. avatar HSR47 says:

          He’s almost certainly using pulled bullets.

          I’m not entirely clear on the why, but it probably has to do with import/export regulations.

          From what I can tell, foreign milsurp AP/I/T ammo is generally broken down into it’s base components and then imported piecemeal.

    2. avatar William says:

      You say “resistance fighters”, I say ” al-Qaeda tools from NATO”; you believe that’s what they are.

      1. avatar int19h says:

        There is a strong Islamist component among Syrian rebels, and if they win that’s who will likely end up running the country. But not all Syrian rebels are Islamists.

    3. avatar Some Guy #7 says:

      Probably not, they’re most likely running around with the DShK. It’s somewhat common in the Southeast Asia theater as well. The preferred light armor weapon of the enemy. If makes a very distinctive sound when fired at you.

      1. avatar Liberty2Alpha says:

        It certainly does.

  4. avatar Conrad says:

    Translation help anyone? Or is it immaterial… I’ve missed the point…

    1. avatar Human Being says:

      In Communist China, point targets you!

  5. avatar gastorgrab says:

    Is that gas tube on top typical of the Barrett design?

    It doesn’t look right.

    1. avatar gastorgrab says:

      Is this it?


    2. avatar Hasdrubal says:

      No gas tube on the Barrett M82/M107, it’s a short recoil system. Which I think was a terrible choice, because you can grab the muzzle and the receiver and rattle them. How anyone expected it to be properly accurate for a sniper rifle is beyond me, when the bore axis and sight axis aren’t firmly attached to each other. Even the instructors at school hated it.

      1. avatar Gyufygy says:

        But but but I was told Barretts can shoot off the left gonad of a squirrel from three states away without ruffling the right, penetrate through a mountain, and still manage to shoot down the International Space Station, all at 2500 rounds per minute!

        1. avatar Hasdrubal says:

          When we got them, the tm listed the effective range as 600m for ‘soft targets,’ meaning people. I think it’s a little better than that, but we all did better with the m24 in terms of plain accuracy. I think the tm has been updated with a longer effective range, but whether that’s from improvement in the gun or embarrassment I don’t know.

          A bolt action .50 won the competition the Army ran to choose a rifle, and then they chose the m107 regardless.

  6. avatar great unknown says:

    “…the truth as a function of obfuscation, repression and control” in the same sight picture as the “New York Times”. That’s almost a Drudge-class juxtaposition.

  7. avatar Ralph says:

    A Chinese-made fifty sounds like an entirely new population-control device, with death on both ends.

  8. avatar Conrad says:

    Actually, if I had to guess, I think the news was playing to the “patriotism” of the population, similar to Combat and GIJoe for us growing up. Asian countries are extremely nationalistic… ten years ago, if you brought a Japanese car into Seoul, it would probably get torched within a day.

    Whether or not the M99 gets used for antipersonnel, China’s done such a good job of disarming the entire population, it really doesn’t matter. Aside from the very remote regions of the country (and the Canton area in the hands of the mafias) firearms in civilian hands no longer exist… but there’s plenty of fireworks everywhere…

  9. avatar APBTFan says:

    Had to light a cigarette after that. Too bad my niece who speaks Mandarin wasn’t here.

  10. avatar Jacen says:

    It’s most likely a new round the chinese invented that mimics the BMG rounds like the .50

    1. avatar int19h says:

      It’s Soviet 12.7×108mm round, which dates back to 1930 for the DShK heavy machine gun. Similar requirements lead to similar design. Today, it’s used by Russia, China, and other countries mostly using Soviet designs in the same role as BMG – heavy MGs, anti-materiel rifles etc.

  11. avatar DJ says:

    Translation: “This one has trained to shoot at human shaped balloons since he was 4 years old. Whenever he misses a target we shoot a relative. It’s just like our gymnasts! We are a free and peaceful people. Go back to your Walmart and buy our stuff.”

  12. avatar Aragorn says:

    I do not see how a human shaped balloon is terrifying on all levels considering humans are the intended targets.

    Do archers shooting foam deer targets terrify you as well?

    1. avatar Peter says:

      Well, the archers do eat the deer..
      Kung Pao Peasant anyone?

    2. avatar RepubAnon says:

      And yet, US purchasers of exploding targets, or ones called The Ex were just harmless plinkers having a little fun.

      Overhyped, paranoid threats of Chinese snipers are silly – worry about their “carrier killer” missile systems, instead. (One reason why the US Navy is interested in drones is that it lets ships stay further away from the enemy’s shores, and weapons systems.)

  13. avatar AZRon says:


    I’m an old fart that hates rap music (sic), but even I had to queue up Sir Mix-A-Lot after reading the post title.

  14. avatar A_Lee says:


    Type 107 anti-material sniper rifle.

    12.7mm caliber.

    Max range 2km, effective range 1.5 km, can hit pinpoint targets within 1km.

    About 26 pounds. About three times more than the type 88. When in transit, it is broken down into components and carried in packs.

    Used in sniper teams of 1 to 3. Designed so that even one man can accomplish a sniper mission.

    The greatest difference is the scope, which has a laser rangefinder and automatic aim-point correction.

    Can be used in anti-personnel or light anti-armor or anti-material.

    *Balloon Shot*

    Target at 1 km, sloped downwards 25 deg. Shot through drizzling rain.

  15. avatar jimmyjames says:

    That’s not a M107. Also, they never showed it shooting twice from one pull on the bolt but surely it is semi-auto. When will I be able to buy one at Walmart?

  16. avatar David T says:

    That is not a BMG, it is a Chinese 12.7 x 108mm BFG (make up your own acronym).

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