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“[Sgt. Jerry] Goodin says the man, his wife, their three children and a juvenile relative were at the home when the 3-year-old boy apparently found the gun and it accidentally discharged, fatally wounding the man,” news-herald.com ‘reports.’ “He picked up the gun and it discharged,” Goodin says in the video above. Don’t any of these cops or journalists know a teachable moment when they see one?

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20 Responses to Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day: Michael Bayliss

  1. Oh man…what a tragic story, enabled by breaking universal laws around gun safety. RIP, good luck to the family…and for this little kid’s mental health.

  2. “He picked up the gun and it discharged” The poor little kid picked up the gun and PULLED the trigger. The gun didn’t “accidentally discharge”. I believe the little boy had no clue what would happen when he picked up a loaded gun that wasn’t properly stored. Now this kid will most likely learn someday that he was the one who fired the fatal shot and even though he’s not to blame, he’s going to feel some guilt. The person who left an unattended loaded gun out is the one responsible for this man’s death, not the little boy or the “evil” gun.

        • Frodo,
          Sorry for my cold-hearted attitude. I just can’t continue feeling sorry for most stupid people. Yes there are a small percentage who are retarded or have other learning problems, and those will receive all the help I can give them. However, most stupid people are stupid because they chose and continue choosing to remain stupid. If you screw off in school, your job consists of mindless toil, and you spend your off-time watching Dances With The Stars or similar ridiculous drivel, then you are stupid because you want to be.

          I can’t feel sorry for people who intentionally put themselves into a situation that is likely to have a bad result, or refuse to do what it takes to stay out of that situation. They caused the problem, now they can live with it (or die from it in this case).

          People need to learn that there are consequences for your actions, and the government does not help society by removing those consequences.

  3. The automatically discharging firearm strikes again! They really oughta put a trigger or something on guns so that it’s people who control when they fire.

  4. oh give it a rest about the “accidental discharge” butthurt you all have. in this case it’s just inappropriate for the police to say in statements to the press that a 3 year old shot his father. he almost certainly didn’t understand what he was doing. and they’re just using language that makes it clear that they are not holding the boy responsible.

    • It’s still negligence on someone’s part, namely whoever left the gun laying around unsecured. That’s the point. Calling these things accidents implies no one is to blame, and that’s almost never true.

  5. Am I the only one who has considered that the story, as told, is NOT what happened? Anyone think that the 3 y.o. kid had nothing to do with it? Hmmmm??

    • The report mentioned a .45 cal weapon. If it was a 1911 type, I can’t imagine a three-year-old releasing the safety, gripping it properly, and still being able to reach the trigger and pull it with enough force to set it off. Awaiting developments…

        • And, to further play Devil’s Advocate… it may have been his wife or older child that shot him (intentionally). Blame the 3 y.o. who is too young to deny it. Everyone else sticks to the story.

    • It’s my understanding that in situations like these that very often the blame will be laid at the feet of someone who clearly won’t be held culpable, for instance, a 3 year old instead of an older child. It would be a pretty precocious three year old that could handle and discharge a full sized firearm.

  6. Instead of remarking the gun accidentally went off the media should call it out and state the gun’s owner left a loaded gun where a 3 year old could find it and operate. But instead they blame the hardware not the owners.

  7. I’m with racer88. Don’t dismiss the possibility that this is a “lost control of the car while driving late at night”, or the ever-popular “gun cleaning accident.” Plenty of suicide and domestic violence slides out the side like that.

    However, if it is either of those things, then several people are going to have to live with themselves for throwing a toddler under the bus.

  8. Just turned on the radio and TTAG and heard about this at the same time i read about it.
    Home carry means on your person, otherwise lock it up, free locks are available at your local Sheriff station in the state of Indiana.

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