CMP Publishes Pricing on Milsurp M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols

You know those 1911 pistols that gun owners have been eagerly waiting for since they were finally authorized under the National Defense Authorization Act? Well the Civilian Marksmanship Program has them and they’ve just announced pricing. But to get one, you’ll have to be lucky.

First, the Secretary of the Army only released 8000 pistols (the number is capped at 10,000 per year). And given the demand for them, the CMP will be selling them through a lottery system.

Click here for all the details. But we know…you want to know how much they’ll cost.

CMP 1911 PRICING:

CMP has priced the 1911 type pistols at fair market value in accordance with CMP’s enabling legislation.

Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition.

Auction Grade (Sales will to be determined by auctioning the pistol). The condition of the auction pistol will be described when posted for auction. Note: If you have already purchased a 1911 from CMP you will not be allowed to purchase an auction 1911. If you purchase an auction 1911, your name will be pulled from the sequenced list. No repeat purchasers are allowed until all orders received have been filled.

The shipping cost is included in the price.

Yep, they’re not cheap. But as our own Jon Wayne Taylor told me, “A$$h@les like me will still buy the first ones we can.”

 

comments

  1. avatar jwtaylor says:

    Well… I will.

    1. avatar Art out West says:

      Garand is way higher on my list, but I’d still love to have one of these. Too poor right now 😥
      JWT – Enjoy your’s. You certainly merit one.😎

    2. avatar When Bullets Collide says:

      You may be literally the only person that uses the word “I” more than Obama does. Grade A/World Class Narcissist.

  2. avatar Joel IV says:

    Meh.

    1. avatar kevin says:

      Meh is right, especially when taxpayers bought them the first time. They should be free.

      And get off my lawn.

      1. avatar Mort says:

        This is Arizona. Get yer damn lawn out of my backyard.

        …like we need more 1911s and scratch lottos here 🙄

      2. avatar Matty 9 says:

        +1

    2. avatar BC says:

      The price is more about people that want them for themselves rather than to buy them all up and sell for profit (like the Garands). Well, that and available surplus is drying up, so they have to make as much as they can while they can.

  3. avatar DAC45 says:

    They can keep them for that price. I thought this was to get civilians into shooting with military surplus. Civilians have a lot of better options at lower prices.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      No it was about keeping them out of poor peoples’ hands

    2. avatar Joe R. says:

      +

      Is this the CMP’s version of ‘gun control’. Have they been taken over by pod people?

      If they’re being held hostage, they should start their next press release with the word “I” and we will take it from there.

      1. avatar Andrew says:

        No it was all about making sure the government didn’t just melt them into slag. I think those are good prices for some of the best built 1911’s you could probably ever buy.

        1. avatar Tom says:

          People who think ” Mil Spec” means quality, were never in the military!

    3. avatar Thomas Glenn says:

      I have to agree. The pricing is a bit higher than it should be, being that most are well used. Unless you can find some very special about a certain firearm. CMP is maling a mint sonce th we y gpt them for….. Nothing.

    4. avatar Caliper says:

      No, the purpose of CMP sales is to help fund their shooting events. CMP service rifle, rimfire sporter, etc. Yes, those events can be done with much less expensive firearms. If they sold these 1911’s at cheap-o prices, you’d only see people buying them to re-sell at the next local gunshow, just like people are doing with the M1 rifles…

  4. avatar barnbwt says:

    I remember these tools saying they would inflate the price in order to “keep them off the streets.” Imagine the anger and boycotts if a private company said such a thing, but these will be snapped up by Real American Patriots, no doubt.

  5. avatar Secundius says:

    Hard to find a Pawn Shop that doesn’t have at least One M1911 in the Displace Case for less than $400.00…

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      Please send me the names of any business selling a US military issued 1911 in working, issuable condition for anything less than $800. I’m not kidding. That wasn’t me trying to be a jerk or not believing you. I am happy to believe you, and I would like that information. I have cash in hand and I’m an FFL.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Chances are, the provenance on most of these is “sat on armory rack, issued to supply clerk in peacetime”… The real good ones all walked away after WWI and WWII in their respective owners’ ruck sacks.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          I have an uncle that taught me all about guns, how to shoot, all that. He was a Marine, WWII and Korea veteran, then went to work for the USMC as a contract SME for the remainder of his extremely long carrier. During Korea, his boat was hit and caught fire. He made it to shore with very few things, one of them was his 1911. He turned it in, as it was badly damaged. He never got it back.
          I have his knife, (also damaged), as well as his belt and his original holster. I would like to get a properly issued 1911 and give it back to him, as his S4 should have done. I just want to make that right by an old marine.

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Wouldn’t that qualify as a “straw purchase”?

        3. avatar jwtaylor says:

          No sir. I am the actual purchaser of the firearm. I can honestly answer “yes” to that question on the 4473. The fact that I intend to give it to a family member as a gift is irrelevant in the eyes of the law, unless he is a prohibited person or I have reason to believe he is a prohibited person, which he is not and I do not.

        4. avatar barnbwt says:

          Just don’t put their name in the payment field on the check…

        5. avatar ironicatbest says:

          Ain’t no such thing as a straw purchase, I buy the gun I outta be able to do with it how I please. Straw purchase, more infringement

    2. avatar Notsostupid says:

      I agree, overpriced, rusty and outdated. I’ll pass for something much better in stainless.

      1. avatar Secundius says:

        @ Notsostupid.

        Never “Frankenstein” one before, huhhh…

  6. avatar AZgunner says:

    That’s absolutely absurd pricing. A grand for a worn out beaten up 1911?!?! The M1 Garands are pretty reasonable, why do these trashed milsurp pistols command a king’s ransom? I could buy a brand new great quality 1911 for less from any number of reputable companies.

    1. avatar Alexander45 says:

      Those brand new ones arnt ww2 milsurp that commands premo $ for even the simplest thing any more

    2. avatar jwtaylor says:

      “why do these trashed milsurp pistols command a king’s ransom”

      Because there’s not a even one single XD that’s ever pointed the way down the tunnels of Vietnam, and there’s not a Glock on earth that helped kill a Nazi above the cliffs of Normandy.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Yeah… mine slogged through the trenches on the western front and only came up for a few hundred bucks more. (Complete with provenance to 1917.)

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Very nice. I’d carry that MF every day.

        2. avatar Notsostupid says:

          Exactly. Yours has a known history so is more valuable. Many of this new batch of rusty collectibles have no known history but may serve well as parts guns. I can buy Sig Legion pistols for the ridiculous price they are asking for these relics.

        3. avatar Evey259 says:

          Cool. But not “$1000 for a story” cool.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah, but there’s a prancing pony on it and a $600 pistol somewhere in there.

      2. avatar AZgunner says:

        There’s no guarantee these are matching parts. Far from it, most have probably been refurbished a couple times. So you may have a frame from WWII, a slide from Nam, and small parts from the late 70s.

        I might pay 1k for a pistol I know was fired in anger by a GI, but I’ll be damned if I pay that price for a refurbished mixmaster that was worn out and needing retirement 30 years ago.

        1. avatar Slab Rankle says:

          They have no trouble selling every single Garand with those same characteristics that you list.

          It may not appeal to you (or me), but they’ll sell everyone and still not come close to meeting demand.

          Real GI Issue .45s! Get yours while supplies last!

          That sounds pretty good to a lot of people.

        2. avatar Eric Lawrence says:

          When it was weapons cleaning time in the jungles of the Phillipines during WWII my grandfather told me that all parts went in a bucket of solvent and came back out of that bucket of solvent with nary a care as to whether that part initially belonged to that gun. USGI and other countries .mil firearms rarely show up with all matching parts unless they were never issued for combat use or were issue to units where time to clean them was usually done in a garrison location (Singer 1911A1’s come to mind as they were all reportedly sent to the Air Corps). I own three 1911’s and out of the three only 1, a 1918 mfg Colt 1911, has all the parts that were used by Colt to manufacture the gun in 1918 and has not been refinished…my 1943 Remington Rand 1911A1has an Ithaca slide on it, and my other 1918 Colt 1911was parkerized at Rock Island Arsenal and fitted with a WWII replacement barrel, slide stop, bushing, and Keyes plastic grips but retains the 1911 trigger, hammer, mainspring housing, and grip safety and other small parts.

    3. avatar barnbwt says:

      Because CMP flat out stated they were afraid the guns would ‘end up on the streets’ if they were priced at market value (where poor people could access them). Any civilian maker would be rightly boycotted for saying this.

      JW seems excited to pay scarcity prices for these, but we’ll see for real how long they end up sitting on the rack.

      1. avatar Ragnarredbeard says:

        When did they say that? Cite.

  7. avatar Matt in FL says:

    I’m in for one.

    1. avatar Jay Left Out in Florida says:

      Oh yah how??
      You have a relative somewhere in Georgia??

      1. avatar Matt in FL says:

        See my other comment, and those of similar vein. GCA.

  8. avatar Alexander45 says:

    That’s the price that was expected for these collectors items, if I had that to drop on one I’d scoop one up.

  9. avatar Jay Left Out in Florida says:

    This all fine and dandy as the odds of getting hit by lightning are better. Then getting a usable gun.
    To add insult to injury.
    There are no blasted CMP affiliated anythings in all of Florida.
    Now how is that fair to us here in Florida??
    Dammed rules leave me out in the cold anyway.
    These guns should be for sale to any US citizen regardless of a CMP affiliation or not.
    This is very unfair.
    & Unkle Sam

    1. avatar Brandon says:

      Try one of the online affiliates like Garand Collectors Association. Annual membership is $25 if I remember correctly and it qualifies as a CMP Affiliated Club.

      1. avatar Jay in Florida says:

        The closest affiliated anything according to the CMP site is in Dawsonville Georgia.
        River Bend Gun Club
        I looked when they 1st announced the sale last year.
        Im on the E-mail list so Ive let them know Im a bit disappointed. Maybe not so nicely.
        Best they said is were sorry but rules is rules.

        As it sits there are a billion new 1911s Id rather have for a lot less. So much for history.

        1. avatar earl says:

          You don’t have to join a range, you can join an organization such as the one mentioned. There are a lot more of these types of organizations that are affiliated. For some of them, it’s only 25/year. You don’t have to live close to them either.

      2. avatar Slugraduate says:

        I am a member of the GCA. Worked for me.

    2. avatar Jake says:

      Hollywood Rifle and Pistol CLub, Hollywood FL

    3. avatar Matt in FL says:

      I’m in Florida. I have a concealed weapons license and I’m a member of the Garand Collectors Association. That’s how I bought my pair of Garands. $25 and you too can be a member.

      1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

        The gun range I’m affiliated with is a member.
        I’m in for one when I can too.

  10. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    There is no reason for cmp to sell these for $500, they would instantly go on GunBroker as rare, CMP 8000 limited…. They probably will end up in gun broker anyway.

  11. avatar Wiregrass says:

    Glad I didn’t wait for a bargain when this was announced way back about 3 years ago.

  12. avatar GS650G says:

    How many brand new 1911 pistols go for that much or less and are not pitted, worn, or shot out?

    1. avatar Caliper says:

      You’re not getting it. Precisely zero of those new 1911’s were actually issued by the US military. These are collector prices. If they weren’t, the collectors would just be buying as many as they could for resale at these or higher prices anyways.

      To compare this to the rifle side of the CMP, I can also build an AR10 (which is arguably a better rifle) for less than a CMP M1 Garand and make the same argument, but the M1 will still be an actual US military rifle while the AR10 is rapidly becoming a commodity rifle.

  13. avatar strych9 says:

    The chances of actually winning the lottery combined with the price… pass.

  14. avatar Model 31 says:

    $1000…after I already payed for them the first time these were requisitioned?

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Quite probable you weren’t alive when these were first requisitioned.

      1. avatar Model 31 says:

        More probable you don’t know when I was born, so publish the 8000 serial numbers for us and I’ll let you know.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Unless you’re a WWII vet, I’m going to maintain my skepticism. I guarantee you that I own a 1911 older than you are.

        2. avatar Model 31 says:

          Uh oh, skepticism from random guy on the internet.
          Is your 1911 one of the 8000 from the CMP?…cause that’s the ones we’re talking about.

  15. avatar Jimmy W Immel says:

    Y’all acting like these won’t fly off the shelf at that price.

  16. avatar Muhammad says:

    To all you morons that are complaining about the price: These pistols are not for you, just like Garands are not for you, or M1 Carbines, if you want a regular gun, buy elsewhere, they are for collectors, and I will have my paperwork ready to go, as will probably 20,000 other serious collectors, who will be crossing our fingers hoping we get a chance at owning a firearm with historical relevance.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      The problem is that most of these are highly unlikely to have historical relevance. Most of them will be parts guns reworked by armories so much that your gun will probably be ~30% original. For that kind of money, you can easily pick up an all original parts gun on many sites. I picked up my 1917 dated 1911 for about $200 more than their “service” grade pistols.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        I look at it this way – ‘Those kind of prices’ supports the prices of *all* other 911s out there. It sure doesn’t de-value them.

        For me, this beats the hell out of what Hillary or Obama would have done, with motivation. Like had them *melted*.

        Has anyone forgotten what Obama did to the D.O.D. training range brass early in his administration? They ordered it *destroyed* by crushing it with a pavement roller, so it couldn’t be re-loaded…

        1. avatar Rincoln says:

          Not only that, but the scrap–after he used taxpayer money to grind up the casings–wasn’t allowed to go to an American company. He sold (gave) it to communist China.

    2. avatar Joe says:

      There ISNT any historic significance, but by all means buy a used gun with no historic value for collectors price. The government’s gotta dupe somebody. Be sure to condescendingly tell everyone later about how much you paid for it.

    3. avatar BlackieLawless says:

      You must be a boomer. Probably spent $150,000 on an SS Chevelle also.

      1. avatar Muhammad says:

        Not a boomer, but I have spent more than $150k on guns… just in the last few years

    4. avatar strych9 says:

      Serious collectors?

      Either the comment section here has fallen off or I don’t get the jokes any more.

      Serious collectors go to Sotheby’s, James D. Julia, Poulin’s, Rock Island Auctions or similar.

      They don’t sign up to try to buy “auction grade”(AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!) guns from the CMP and then brag about it on the interwebz.

      1. avatar Huntmaster says:

        Ha ha ha…….

    5. avatar Erik Weisz says:

      …”these pistols are not for you.” You just had to say that, dammit – now I gotta have one

  17. avatar Dave Lewis says:

    I used to think that the function of CMP was to put outdated surplus weapons into the hands of people who would shoot and enjoy them. I jumped through the hoops and bought a Garand from them about 15 years ago for what I felt was a reasonable price and I’ve really enjoyed the rifle.

    These days CMP weapons are no longer seen as “shooters” but rather as collectible investments. The supply of real WW2 era weapons is very limited and there are many people who will pay almost any amount of money to own a surplus 03 Springfield, Garand or 1911 because they know that five or ten years down the road somebody else will pay lots more for the same weapon. Banks don’t pay a lot of interest even on long term CDs, but people think that they will always be able to make money on a 1911 or Garand with a 1943 serial number. Even my very late production (1955) Springfield Armory Garand with all matching parts is worth at least twice what I paid for it – and no, its not for sale.

    As long as people with lots of cash are willing to invest in the firearms market and they really don’t care what things cost, the prices of old worn out pistols with the “right” serial numbers will be lots higher than a blue collar working guy can afford. I’m not an investor and this old sailor really doesn’t want to pay a thousand bucks for those old rattling 1911s that I handled in 1970.

    I own three 1911 shooters – a Rock Island, a Kimber and a Springfield – and I don’t have more than about $1500 in all three. If I really wanted a surplus 1911 with some history attached to it I guess that I’d throw my name into the hat and the money wouldn’t be an issue. At my old age I’ve got other projects to spend my money on.

    For the guys who absolutely have to own a CMP 1911 I wish you luck. You’ll pay what the market bears for a piece of history. For the rest of us a modern production 1911 shoots straighter, feeds hollow points, and is lots cheaper.

    1. avatar 16V says:

      I wish you luck with your optimism on Garands/03’s. Much like ’55 Chebbies, the potential buyers who actually care are dying. At an accelerating rate. The kids (i.e. pretty much anyone under 40) barely gives a collectible rip about Vietnam-era poodle poppers, let alone WWI/II.

      Sure, there are some new cognoscenti, but they will be buying the truly rare guns, at Julia, et. al. The 1 of 10000 stuff that has been artificially inflated over the last 20-ish years will drop back down to its proper pricing as an everyman’s mantle gun. At most generous.

      Remember not that long ago when restored Model A’s and T’s were worth big bucks? Even the bottom has fallen out of all but the truly rare “muscle cars”. Barring the unforseen, a run of the mill Garand (let alone an ’03) is a depreciating asset until they find their bottom.

      1. avatar ironicatbest says:

        Sad but true. The new generation doesn’t care much about American history. ,. ,, America is becoming to spoiled, We need a bigass War like when grandma saves tin foil, rubber bands, and string, sugar and fuel are rationed. A war that these pistols helped win, parts guns, rust and pits, they were there.. Then the younger generation might get a taste of what it’s like to be a part of history……? Uh maybe marching for the abolishment of the Second Amendment is history? ..Fuck Facebook

      2. avatar Geoff PR says:

        “Even the bottom has fallen out of all but the truly rare “muscle cars”.”

        The only truly rare cars from that era are the ‘Super Birds’ and the like.

        I have to kinda disagree on the ‘muscle car’ values, common-as-dirt Chevelles are starting to *skyrocket* in value as folks of my vintage now have some real money they can spend on them. Right now, I’m seeing a *lot* of fake Super Sports rumbling down the roads in these parts. Whoever is making knock-off ‘SS’ grill badges is doing very well right now…

        1. avatar 16V says:

          Geoff, if your market is paying real money for SS clones, do let me know. I’ll gladly cut you in on the sales.

          The only thing that has brought more than $10K in the last decade is an immaculate, low mile, original, numbers-matching 454 4 speed, with a sht-ton of provenance documentation. Dreck like an ‘upgraded’ Chevelle? Guys with $70k+ in the fresh SS-clone frame-off have major trouble getting getting $20K out of it.

          I bought a PHS-verified factory Judge (with $50k+ in fresh 6 speed/Strange axle, brake/etc. upgrades/parts) for $8K a coupla years back. Even after spending another $8K in paint, I was a long struggle to finally get someone to pony $22K for it.

          The HELO days are long gone, and anyone paying more than $20K for one of those horrid turds is either buying something Muira-rare, or is just a chump. (I like chumps, so if you have a source of more…)

    2. avatar Eric Lawrence says:

      You are absolutely correct. My Springfield Operator and Kimber TLE II rival any duty gun out there in shootability, accuracy, and reliability. But random people don’t ask to shoot them at the range. My shooting buddies don’t wait in line for their chance to shoot them and then pretend like they are putting them back in their own range bag. Only my 1918 Colt and 1943 Remington Rand elicit those reactions from people.

  18. avatar Kenneth G Maiden says:

    Being an old fart, seeing the end of my life span, I’ll pass and be happy with my CMP M1.

  19. avatar Pliablemoose says:

    Too rich for my blood, but reasonable to keep people from scalping them after purchase.

  20. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

    I’ve never much cared for the 1911. War bring backs were still common in my youth. Lugers, p-38s, PP’s, victory revolvers. Even the odd Nambu. The one I liked the best was based largely on the 1911. The browning Hi Power.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      As a kid in the 70s, I had buddies who had bring-back samurai swords, Nambus, and Nazi banners and other crap in their basements, to play with…

      1. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

        Yep. I was the local gun nut. We didn’t have the interwebz in those days. We had me. More than once thru the 70s and into the early 90s I had a widow come to me and say that their late husband had been off to war and after he passed she was going thru his things, usually an old trunk or footlocker, and found a gun(s) and would I see if they were safe.

        A bunch of handguns, daggers, helmets, medals, etc. And sometimes things more interesting.

    2. avatar cisco kid says:

      To Gun Zone Freak Out

      quote———————-I’ve never much cared for the 1911. War bring backs were still common in my youth. Lugers, p-38s, PP’s, victory revolvers. Even the odd Nambu. The one I liked the best was based largely on the 1911. The browning Hi Power.——————quote

      Well for once we partially agree on something but you know zero about the FN High Power notice I did not say Browning High Power because in reality John B had very little to do with its invention and it was not a copy of the 1911 either not by a long shot (pun intended). Its lock up was different as well as its staggered magazine and it was hammer fired not striker fired nor a simply blow back which was the two prototypes Browning invented before he died suddenly. It was only the magazine that we can trace back to John B as the gun John originally designed was actually a striker fired gun and another weapon that was blow back operated. It was Dieudonné Saive) that invented the High Power and if you were at the old time FN Plant and said Browning invented it you would have gotten a punch right in the nose and even today they would probably still beat the shit out of you before throwing you out into the street

      1. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

        Learned that off the internet, did ya.

        You’re really precious when you try to act like you know what you’re talking about.

  21. avatar EGB says:

    If I hadn’t already dropped the 2018 piggy bank on an Accuracy X 45…
    Serious question is whether these CMP pistols will have repercussions to the historic 1911 prices? Curious to hear more knowledgeable opinions on the subject.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Probably not. Real collectible 1911s are just as rare as they ever were. Most of these will be rebuilt junk in barely functional condition. Nice range toys, but hardly collector’s items.

  22. avatar Gary says:

    If I had that kind of money I’d for sure get a Kimber. But I guess they have the space to store them? Maybe there is only a couple dozen really?

  23. avatar BlackieLawless says:

    Too much cash. One can buy waaaaay more pistol for those prices. Boomers will snatch them up just like they snatched up the classic cars, they seem to have more money than sense anyway.

    1. avatar 16V says:

      This is exactly like classic cars. The small number of the truly rare will stay with the collectors. The run-of-the-mill dreck will drop down to levels that the market will support, which isn’t $75K for a rough GTO Judge – PHS that it was 1 of 2 that year with the fuzzy dice option irrelevant.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        There’s one option today that wasn’t available 30 years ago. *Entire* new bodies for 15 thou. With repro everything else being made and sold (esp. interiors), cars that look good at first blush are all over the place, but at closer inspection…

  24. avatar Howdy1 says:

    If you’re not buying one, what are you complaining about? And why are you attempting to disparage those who would choose to buy one? Their decision has zero consequences to you.

    Fudds, elitists and snobs.

    Wow, gun owners like to turn on their own over the inconsequential minutiae.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      The fact that CMP is artificially raising the prices on these guns for no reason other than to keep them out of the hands of people who might actually shoot them.

      1. avatar Ragnarredbeard says:

        Show me a Government issued 1911 for less than what CMP is asking.

        1. avatar Pwrserge says:

          How is a “government issued” 1911 demonstrably better than a $500 Philippine 1911? All other CMP guns are sold at market price. Market price for a rattly 1911 is $500. The fact that they are selling them for more is anti-gun politics and you know it.

        2. avatar Eric Lawrence says:

          By government issued I assume you don’t mean $400 Rock Island Armory POS or the like?

          Colt Rail gun turned M45…$1500 or so
          Kimber ICQB (essentially a modified TLE II)…$1000 or so
          Springfield Armory Professional Model for FBI HRT and FBI SWAT…$2500 or so
          Caspian Frames and Sprinfield Armory Custom Shop Slides (the MEU SOC pistol was a true mixmaster but this is a vey common variant)…$2000 or so

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          People complain about Rock Island, but mine runs like a sewing machine and has never given me the same issues that some of my higher end guns have. It may not be a tac driver, but then, neither were GI 1911s.

  25. avatar RP says:

    Those prices are outlandish.

  26. avatar former water walker says:

    Insane pricing. Oh and I am an antique dealer. Raggedy condition ain’t worth much…

  27. avatar Hannibal says:

    Oof. The Garands are a steal compared to these.

    Not like I wouldn’t want a matching set… but that price us rough and I could just buy another Garand :-\

  28. avatar New Continental Army says:

    Doesn’t take glock mags.

  29. avatar GS650G says:

    Watch them drop prices if demand turns out to be soft, especially for the lower grades.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Sadly, there are more than enough 1911 fanboys to clean out their present inventory.

  30. avatar cisco kid says:

    As you can see they are pandering worn out rattle trap rusted up junk that should just been melted down years ago.

    I am willing to bet sales will be no where near what they expect for two reasons. 1. The ridiculous hoops people have to jump through to get this trash and 2. The outrageous prices that are a laughable joke because they have already admitted in order to make most of the guns even work reliably they will first have to repair them with modern cheap ass cast parts which simply makes them into “parts guns” not in any way collectable items.

    Lets face the other sobering facts. WWII guns were made of very soft steel in the slide area. I know this for a fact because at our club in the 50’s when these guns sold for give away prices through the NRA the guns that were accurized with adjustable sights, oversize link pins, new bushings, trigger jobs, etc , etc wore out their slides very quickly when used just a couple of seasons in NRA bull’s-eye shooting.

    I might add that back in the 50’s the guns the NRA released had way less mileage on them and some were rebuilt WWII guns that had much harder slides than the rattle trap and soft slide trash that was made during WWII. A cousin of mine still owns one of the surplus WWI guns and its workmanship rivals some of todays new commercial guns that sell in the $400 dollar range which again points to the fact that why would anyone pay$1,000 today for WWII guns with soft slides and rattle trap workmanship complete with terrible trigger pulls and accuracy that is a laughable joke when they can buy a new 1911 made of modern much harder steel and at more than half the rip off prices the con artists at the CPM are charging.

    I think the CMP may just be in for a surprise when they think that that there are that many stupid people out there that would pay those kinds of rape prices for “parts guns” which never will be collector items.

    1. avatar ironicatbest says:

      Why you bite your tongue. No gun should ever be melted down. “No gun should ever be melted down”, ooe hundred times on the chalk board, and you can go home

    2. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “I am willing to bet sales will be no where near what they expect for two reasons.”

      *Snort*

      Put up, or shut up. How much are you *willing* to put up with that claim?

      How much, Crisco?

    3. avatar Pwrserge says:

      Ah… it’s Crisco pretending he knows something about guns again. He’s adorable.

      1. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

        In one thread comrade cisco claimed he was 6 in the 50’s. Now he was a grown man hanging around gun clubs in the 50’s.

        Every word he’s ever written here is a lie.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          It’s Comrade Crisco… like the oil. I think it’s very descriptive of the commie land whale rolling around in his mother’s basement covered in a fine crusting of Cheetos dust.

        2. avatar cisco kid says:

          to Gun Freak Zone Out

          quote—————————In one thread comrade cisco claimed he was 6 in the 50’s. Now he was a grown man hanging around gun clubs in the 50’s.

          Every word he’s ever written here is a lie.——————————-quote————–

          Reading Comprehension, Jethro, reading comprehension. I did not say I was shooting or competing in the 1950’s there nor did I say I was a member of the club in the 1950’s. I said “our club” in the 1950’s. Now I realize this is all beyond your reading comprehension or intelligence level of which you have little.

          Never the less my relatives and many of my older friends and later in time my working colleagues did indeed belong to the club during those years. I myself was shooting there in 1960 under the supervision of my relatives of course What I stated was the “history of the club” and the people who were shooting there at that time. Now what part of this do you not understand or is this getting to complicated for you to fathom.

          Give up Jethro the more you run off at the mouth the bigger the fool you make of yourself.

        3. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

          So, you admit you have nothing but hearsay about the club in the 50s. But you quote chapter and verse as if you had been there and were reciting facts. Just like your so called ‘expertise’ on any other subject. A quick google check and you’re a self proclaimed ‘expert’ on many subjects.

          Uneducated and indoctrinated, comrade cisco, is all you are. I stand by my statement. You’re nothing but a self important liar.

        4. avatar cisco kid says:

          to Gun Freak Zone out

          Quote————————————-So, you admit you have nothing but hearsay about the club in the 50s. But you quote chapter and verse as if you had been there and were reciting facts. Just like your so called ‘expertise’ on any other subject. A quick google check and you’re a self proclaimed ‘expert’ on many subjects.

          Uneducated and indoctrinated, comrade cisco, is all you are. I stand by my statement. You’re nothing but a self important liar.———————————quote

          Again reading comprehension Jethro. I knew these people personally as a kid and later as a teenager and later as an adult in the work place and at the club. I saw many of the guns they had accurized and also shot them as well. Its not hard to see the cracks in the slide or the wear on the locking lugs either once you strip the gun down. The slides were replaced by surplus commercial slides that were makred “NM” which were made for bulls-eye shooting originally for the military and later surplused out. Others who could not get any more of these slides replaced them with commercial slides that were purchased new.

          Now Jethro you need to thank me for educating you today. Next time if you can remember any of this you will not make such an ass of yourself.

        5. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

          It’s not about who you knew as a kid, comrade cisco. Read your original post and tell me that doesn’t read like a person trying to convince folks of his personal, hands on knowledge.

          You’re a phony. But then, we already knew that.

        6. avatar cisco kid says:

          to Gun Freak Zone Out
          Quote—————————————–It’s not about who you knew as a kid, comrade cisco. Read your original post and tell me that doesn’t read like a person trying to convince folks of his personal, hands on knowledge.

          You’re a phony. But then, we already knew that.—————————quote

          You need a tutor to train you in reading comprehension. I think even Trump is not as big a Moron as you and brother you could not register on the Moron scale any lower than that. And you Idiot go back and read my post its exactly who I knew at the club. I will give you a hint Moron “its states My Cousin” as well as statements about “the club” not myself. If you had any reading comprehension at all you would not be making such an ass of yourself. Give up Jethro your out of your league and your not saving face. Shave your butt and walk backwards you will look more intelligent.

        7. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

          You got caught trying to pass others experience off as your own. Now you rage at the one that busted you, like a good little stalinist.

  31. avatar Gregolas says:

    The outlandish prices for these shot-out guns. CMP= Failing Grade.

  32. avatar JBS says:

    I just want a gun to shoot. I would not buy any original 1911. There are so many newer, better guns for my purpose that I would never enter the lottery.

  33. avatar kap says:

    I can get a new one for that price, History?? only if it is certified as having been used in a particular action , CMP receives these guns for pennies on the Dollar then pedals them for big bucks as historical artifacts!
    most of them are Rusty Junk and loose as a goose, but will usually goes bang. it could be worse they could be trying too make the Beretta an Icon {a super size frame for the anemic Nine}

  34. avatar DWW says:

    Everybody seems to be missing the point here…

    The CMP’s mission is to promote formal marksmanship training and competition among the US citizenry. Realistically, nearly nobody is shooting clapped out M1’s or 1911’s in real competition.

    However, there are hundreds of thousands of youth out there participating in said training and competition through various shooting programs either sponsored or supported by the CMP. In my younger days, I must have burned through 25k rounds of .22 in practice and competition, all provided free by the CMP, through rifles bought with CMP grants.

    They have a fiduciary responsibility to raise the most money possible through the sale of surplus guns to support their mission. Yeah, a $500 GI 1911 would be great, but I’d rather pay the extra knowing that it’s supporting a mission that I also support rather than providing a bunch of old guys with an opportunity to triple their money on Gunbroker.

  35. avatar Mike Dexter's A GOD says:

    Probably a good time to just sit back and wait til the next 10,000 show up next year and list for $200 less than these prices.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      Is it known how many there are in total? How many years worth do they have in back stock at 10k per year?

  36. avatar little horn says:

    i just don’t get it. $1K for a fucking pitted gun? wtf? are these wwII era? they’d better be. ridiculous.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Even if they were, I’d want some provenance to go with them. Pitting on a handgun slide is inconsequential. However, I would want to see an all original parts gun.

  37. avatar cisco kid says:

    The original DCM was organized to get the younger generation into the shooting sports by selling off military surplus guns at very low prices. Todays CPM are rip off con artists that sell to high end big money people who often know little about gun collecting. They are greed mongers out to rape every penny they can out of the buying public.

  38. avatar raptor jesus says:

    I can get a brand new Sig Sauer 1911 for these prices . . . . forget this noise.

  39. avatar cisco kid says:

    Ok guys listen up the Lottery guns are being reserved for any rare models or any guns that look half way decent then they will rape you a new butt hole and laugh all the way to the bank about it. Unless you have a wheel barrel full of money you will not be bidding for the lottery guns.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      I think you mean auction guns. The lottery guns are everything that’s left over after the really good auction guns are pulled out.

  40. avatar cisco kid says:

    Everyone should start sending them letters with nothing more than a picture off a rusted up 1911 with a big middle finger pointed at them. They will ” get the feelings” of the public very quickly.

  41. avatar John Carpenter ( USA) Retired says:

    I don’t know why they think they have to rape the public on the pricing, the Gov. don’t need to make an enormous profit on some old surplus pistols. Check what a brand new 1911 costs these days.

  42. avatar John 10mm says:

    Why too many dumb comments from people without a clue……………talking about taking guns “home” after WWII……really? To start with very few .45’s were issued period and almost none to a dogface. The only “guns” going home were war prizes as long as you had the paperwork allowing it. My father brought home an Arisaka as a war prize and the documents are with it. Anyone commenting on mil spec has never held much less carried a 1911. Yes you can buy a new junk 1911 cheap. You cannot buy a G.I. .45 cheap. Most of the commenters would not know which end to hold. These pistols will double in price as soon as the sale is over to collectors.

    1. avatar Secundius says:

      Since when did “MilSurp” have the same meaning as “Mil-Spec”?/! I have a Type 38 “Arisaka” Barrel replacement for my 98k Mauser. Great Barrels…

  43. avatar Tony lucido says:

    When I was in the navy I was in head of the armery at Pearl . I was in the security change thare was crates of these 45 most cut in half . I was able to put 4 complete the guards would not let me have then. I don’t think these guns are worth a lot .they are cool

  44. avatar Andrew Lias says:

    My XD in .45 has 6 more in the mag, probably more reliable certainly not pitted and was 1/3 the cost. I’m okay without one of these. I can appreciate the provenance of them serving with the US Military, but it’s not a deal breaker for me if I did get a 1911. If the cash to goes to charity great, and if a person has the money and is willing t spend it for one of these guns then so be it that’s their biz.

    1. avatar Gunr says:

      I’m with you.
      If someone is willing to pay that much for an old somewhat beat up 45, just because they can afford it, and it is a piece of history, then so be it.
      However, if that person should fall on hard times, and was forced to sell it, how much is he gonna get back for the “piece of history” part,

      1. avatar Caliper says:

        Obviously, we haven’t seen pics of their condition descriptions yet, but go look up a USGI 1911 in the Curios and Relics section of Gunbroker. Doesn’t look like people will have any problem recouping their investment and then some.

        1. avatar Gunr says:

          I agree, that you may get back you original investment, however I was mostly thinking of someone that would be in a hurry to get some cash, and would have to sell his “prize” to a not so scrupulous dealer.

  45. avatar Piller480 says:

    When I was in the Army, we still used the .45 Colt 1911 pistols. They rattled and were about as accurate as a Butter Bar’s map reading skills. My Company had 1 single 1911 that was accurate as issued for we front line troops. Stock number 42. I remember it well as it was my assigned pistol. I was on the M60 crew, so I carried a .45 in addition to my primary weapon. I never shot worse than 35 out of 42 in the bullseye on the 25 meter timed rapid fire course. There was a Spec 4 in my Platoon who was on the post pistol team. I got an article 15 on 2 separate occasions for posting a better score than he did with his accurized pistol with adjustable sights. The Company CO asked my Platoon Sergeant why he didn’t put me on the pistol team. The answer had something to do with my attitude. In reality, I just didn’t like the taste of Kiwi or Lincoln wax on Corcorans. I did my job well and didn’t lick boots. Anyway, there was only one good pistol in the bunch that was issued to line troops. I am not buying one of those rattle trap pieces of crap. I will spend my money on something that wasn’t worn out before I was born.

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