‘Gun Reform’ is Un-American: Quote of the Day

“I do think gun reform is not an American ideology and would be desecrating the sacred document of the United States Constitution, the document that allowed this country to become so great.” – Kyle Kashuv in Meet the conservative Florida high school massacre survivor staunchly against gun control [via nydailynews.com]

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  1. avatar Shire-man says:

    Asking for somebody to control you or others is un-American. It’s quite preposterous to me.
    Not 10 minutes ago I had an adult ask me if he was allowed to leave a town meeting. Really, far to many of us are conditioned that servitude is the default state of man and any liberty you may have is a cheat.

    1. avatar Ed Schrade says:

      A country full of sheep and not enough sheep dogs. Instead of talking softly and carrying a big stick, they are talking b s and carrying a soft cuddly stuffed animal.

      1. avatar Flinch says:

        For me, gun reform is when I swap out the furniture on my AR. And maybe switch from a red dot to a magnifying optic.

        Seems totally American to me. And a little aMattelican too.

    2. avatar anonymous says:

      “Asking for somebody to control you or others is un-American.”

      Asking somebody to control you or others is as American as capitalism.

      “It’s apparent that the source of the greatest direct duress experienced by the ordinary adult is not the state but rather the business that employs him. Your foreman or supervisor gives you more or-else orders in a week than the police do in a decade.

      1. avatar Jay says:

        I’m pretty sure in communist or socialist countries workers get PLENTY of or else orders. In a capitalist country you have options. Work for yourself, work for someone better, organize a union. In America you don’t have to be a sheep.

        1. avatar anonymous says:

          I’m pretty sure in communist or socialist countries workers get PLENTY of or else orders.

          I wasn’t comparing capitalism to socialism. I was responding to an assertion made by the OP. But congratulations for your knee-jerk response that misses the point. The Socialists don’t need to take away your guns, because the Oligarchs have already disarmed you in your mind.

      2. avatar Jonathan-Houston says:

        No such “or else” order includes “or else die” or “or else get thrown in a dungeon forever”, as is the case with government. That’s involuntary, and exactly the opposite of capitalism, where you cooperate in mutual exchange with your employer in an at-will arrangement.

        As for the volume of instructions, government has already laid out hundreds of thousands if rules, regulations, statutes, and rulings for you to follow, even before you were born. They had hundreds and thousands more every year. Your supervisor is just telling you what truck to load. Sheesh. Unlike a cop, who can haul you off to jail, right now, your typical foreman or supervisor can’t do crap without going through channels. That can take months, if not years, before there is any discipline.

        You got a little too far out in front of the facts on this one.

      3. avatar JasonM says:

        Orders from a boss are not control. Since 1865, employment in the USA has been entirely voluntary. If your boss tells you to clean a toilet or something else you don’t wish to do, you can end your voluntary employment agreement right there. If your boss uses force or coercion to keep you there against your will, that’s a criminal act.
        The fact that you might not have a lot of other options doesn’t imply control, merely a disadvantage for you in negotiations.

      4. avatar drunkEODguy says:

        Literally anything in your job description is a “do this or I don’t pay you” order. You don’t have to do anything if you don’t want paid

      5. avatar Jay says:

        If you bring up the “evils of capitalism” stuff I think it’s safe to say that you are probably trying to promote some other system. I feel like you’re just mad that someone called out your nonsense. Watch your back smart guy the oligarchs might be watching you. LMFAO.

        1. avatar anonymous says:

          If you bring up the “evils of capitalism” stuff I think it’s safe to say that you are probably trying to promote some other system. I feel like you’re just mad that someone called out your nonsense.

          Cathy Newman, is that you?

      6. avatar Chris T from KY says:

        My black knee Jerking legs, tell me the socialist/communist in places like California do want to take my guns.

        The Tech Billionaires like Paul Allen, also want my guns taken away. But he gets to keep his armed guard detail.

      7. avatar Jay says:

        Cathy Newman huh? Ahhh What does she have to do with this? Anyway you are truly retarded. I guess I should be flattered you only respond to me. Apparently I got under your skin. It’s my Russian trolling background.

    3. avatar Garrison Hall says:

      “. . . I had an adult ask me if he was allowed to leave a town meeting. . .”

      You must have been in France or Germany.

    4. avatar Bierce Ambrose says:

      “…far to many of us are conditioned that servitude is the default state of man…”

      So, the public indoctrination education system is doing its job, it seems.

    5. avatar John in Ohio says:

      That conditioning will be greatly magnified once schools are fortresses, completely controlled and guarded by agents of government. The only armed people those impressionable young minds will see everyday will be agents of government. Generational warfare.

  2. avatar Zeke says:

    “So, Melania… if you, uh… wanna get a little payback on Donald for that ‘Stormy’ thing… my senior prom’s coming up…”

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      It’s about damn time we had a First Lady that most red-blooded American males would *love* to have a throw with.

      I guess Jackie O. was probably the last one, and even though she was married to a ‘D’, back then, they were the conservative ones…

      1. avatar anonymoose says:

        JFK and RFK were probably the last pro-gun (D)s on the national scene, which adds more fuel to the conspiracy theories.

      2. avatar Setnakhte says:

        It’s about damn time that a “First anything” ceased to exist. It’s a wretched holdover from a mentality more suited to monarchy.

  3. avatar Geoff PR says:

    The article mentions the Grassley-Cruz bill, that, among other things, supposedly makes it easier transport firearms across state lines without being hassled.

    Anybody know anything about it?

    “The bill includes provisions making it easier to purchase and transport firearms across state lines.

    The bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, and for the interstate transportation of firearms providing certain conditions are met. Guns transported across state lines will have to be unloaded, locked in a vehicle or kept in the trunk.

    Another pro-gun provision of the bill will allow military members to buy guns in the states where they’re stationed.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294499-sens-grassley-and-cruz-present-alternative-gun-bill

    1. avatar Bob h says:

      No No No clearly this is fake news because Ted Cruz is a globalist Canadian who’s wife is a council on foreign relations globalist(?) … said certain Trump supporters. Lol

  4. avatar anonymous says:

    “I do think gun reform is not an American ideology and would be desecrating the sacred document of the United States Constitution, the document that allowed this country to become so great.”

    Well, that settles it, then. I’m sure the anti’s will now see the error of their ways and give up.

    1. avatar Bob h says:

      Nah they just kept this kid out of the CNN townhall and off the alphabet networks. He actually supports universal background checks, but isn’t for banning semi-automatics or repealing the Second Amendment so they aren’t interested in hearing from him.

      1. avatar anonymoose says:

        If he understood that NICS data is stored indefinitely, thus violating FOPA (like anyone really gives a flying fuck about any of FOPA’s restrictions on the government, and only uses it to keep the MG registry closed), he’d probably be against UBCs. Anyone who buys from an FFL is on the government’s shit-list.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          Considering the amount of data the NSA collects anyone who buys ammo or accessories with a credit or debit card is probably on a “list”.

          The difference is that the NSA list might actually be organized enough to be useful.

  5. avatar Patrick says:

    “Meet the conservative Florida high school massacre survivor staunchly against gun control”

    “The” is a definite article. The correct (but politically incorrect) article would be the indefinite “a”.

    If we don’t know how many individuals fit the description, “conservative” and “staunchly against gun control”, we would use the indefinite “a” until we can establish that there is only one. No one is perfect, but it seems that nydailynews conveniently made another simple error. I’m not being pedantic. I’m just trying to identify manipulative dishonesty.

    1. avatar Jonathan-Houston says:

      He’s the only one out there arguing the point sufficiently to gain media attention and a Whitehouse invitation. That’s “staunch”. If there were others, they’d have been invited, too, to show it isn’t just one guy. That’s “the.”

  6. avatar J says:

    Please help save our 2nd Amendment rights. Please pass the first link to others so we can get this petition sent to the White House.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/oppose-gun-control-and-weapons-ban-legislation

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov

  7. avatar former water walker says:

    Good going kid…too bad you won’t be widely publicized.

    1. avatar Joatmon says:

      And that’s the problem. The left and MSM gathered up those kids in Florida and pushed them on every network they could.
      They should do the same with this young man. Fight fire with fire.
      Might be a little late though as things seem to be turning out for the worse IMO.

  8. avatar Jim Wilson says:

    A theoretical question:

    If a right to defend oneself is given by God, why didn’t he provide humans with needles, like porcupines?

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      HE did, he just doesn’t make you carry your ‘arms’ around.

    2. avatar CarlosT says:

      I’m not religious, but I think a response would be He gave us something even better, brains to innovate, and the hands to bring those innovations to life. Firearms are the result of the combination of those gifts, which we can use to exercise the right to self-defense.

      1. avatar Oh noes says:

        BINGO!

    3. avatar strych9 says:

      Whether you’re religious or not the answers to this is found in an evolutionary biology class.

  9. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    Globalism is on the move again….NWO…Civil Disarmament and destruction of our fine US Constitutional Bill of Rights!

  10. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    Who at TTAG comments board will be declared ” Enemy of the State?!” Receiving the Big Government award of the “The ERPO !” Along with a “No knock warrant to seize whatever they have…!” Possible Rebel activity, as a political dissident….

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      “ERPO” is the U.S. Government’s Acronym for “SHOOT THROUGH THE DOOR” (so maybe it’s in communist Russian???).

      RAISE BOTH HANDS ABOVE YOUR HEAD, WHILE MAKING LOBSTER CLAW PINCHING MOTIONS WITH YOUR HANDS, AND REPEAT AFTER ME. . .

      B O O B Y

      T R A P S

      B O O B Y

      T R A P S

      Not on your safe, but it in the soffit above your doors and windows. Shotgun shells might do it, homemade claymores, wtf ever. Put chicken wire over the inside of your windows with a planter box under the open end at the bottom, fill the planter box with water for the tear gas, flash bangs can go in there too. This is where drones can really come into there own too. Asymmetrical warfare can actually be flip-flopped in the short term. They make cheap ones that can carry up to 20 pounds, that’s a lot of ordnance for a multi-channel receiver to allow you to drop. Oh, and get a proper dog.

      1. avatar Joe R. says:

        IF IT SOUNDS INFLAMMATORY, KNOW THAT, THAT’S WHAT AN ERPO SOUNDS LIKE TO A LAWFUL CITIZEN.

        NO REST NO QUARTER

  11. avatar Red Forman says:

    Trump should listen to this guy.

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