Massachusetts Enacts Bump Fire Stock Ban: Possible Life Imprisonment for Simple Possession

“Massachusetts became the first state to enact a ban on bump stocks following the mass shooting at a Las Vegas music festival,” foxnews.com reports. “Republican Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito signed the bill Friday in her capacity as acting governor because Republican Gov. Charlie Baker is on vacation in California.” The bill’s penalties are beyond harsh . . .

“The provision passed by the legislature allows for excessive punishment including life imprisonment,” The Gun Owners Action League of Massachusetts (GOAL) warned ahead of Polito’s signature, “with a minimum sentence of 18 months, for the mere possession of these accessories.”

The ban — tucked away in a “mini” appropriations bill — gives Bay Staters 90 days to get rid of their bump fire stocks. Not sell. Eliminate. “The legislation was passed leaving no pathway to legal ownership. It also makes it illegal for owners of these items to legally sell them,” GOAL points out. Fifth Amendment that.

Meanwhile, the bill’s supporters are busy using the immediate aftermath of its passage to trumpet the benefits of banning a device which has been used in precisely no crimes in their state.

Democratic state Rep. David Linsky, one of the first in Massachusetts to call for outlawing the devices, said it would make the state safer while respecting the rights of gun owners.

“I am proud of my colleagues in the Legislature for continuing Massachusetts’ reputation as having among the safest and most effective gun laws in the nation,” he said.

That’s one way of looking at it . . .

comments

  1. avatar Alex Waits says:

    Good Lord, these people “run” the country.

    1. avatar dlj95118 says:

      “ruin” – FIFY

      *8)

      1. avatar Baldwin says:

        You’re both right.

  2. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    What does the Libertarian former governor William Weld have to say about this??? And will any member of the Libertarian media ask him???

    1. avatar DoomGuy says:

      Bill Weld is probably having wet dreams about himself being able to sign such a horrific draconian unconstitutional piece of legislation.

      “Libertarians” don’t care about the 2nd amendment. They care really about one thing and one thing only, and that is legalization of marijuana.

      Other than that they’re just dyed in the wool leftists who don’t usually identify as “democrats” but they’ll toe the line and support confiscating firearms, open borders, a crippling environmental policy, shipping jobs overseas and eroding the standard of living for working Americans, disbanding the US Military (while wanting the US Government to support and directly help with arming the UN and the PLA), and every other socialist/democrat party platform.

      1. avatar How_Terrible says:

        I think you are confusing libertarians with socialists…

        1. avatar DoomGuy says:

          Well the libertarian party sure seems like it’s full of people who are one in the same.

          Gary Johnson was an for open borders and believed the whole “climate change” bs. And he picked a gun grabber as his VP.

          Tell me how I’m wrong?

        2. avatar Nanashi says:

          Weld is a socialist that ran as a Libertarian. He openly talked about this hatred of human rights. That the LP let him do this is why I’m not going back.

        3. avatar HP says:

          Aleppo? What?

        4. avatar anonymoose says:

          Most “socialists” don’t support the legalization of weed, or at least they usually vote for people like Obama and Hillary and other Democrat/Liberal/Labour politicians who want to crack down harder on weed (and tobacco, alcohol, guns, marriage rights, religion, free speech, and everything for that matter). A couple election cycles ago when Johnson started running, the Libertarian Party used to be for gun rights, legalizing weed, getting rid of taxes, and giving equal rights for every weirdo imaginable, but this last time Gary got Bill Weld on board to lure over Bernie Sanders’s Democrats (mostly college kids and some aging hippies who weren’t Heiling Hillary) who claim to want to legalize weed, but threw all the other stuff out the window.

      2. avatar Chris T in KY says:

        I have come to believe libertarians are socialist, who are just dishonest about who they really are. Perhaps its the marijuana intoxication they enjoy so much that causes this???

        1. avatar DoomGuy says:

          Nah, it’s the aging hippies who are the remnants of the Woodstock era who still want to believe that they’re fighting against “The Man”.

          They get high so much because they can’t accept the fact leftists like them have become “The Man”, and they’re ashamed that they’re more corrupt than the so called “Military-Industrial Complex”, and can’t live with themselves. So they self medicate.

        2. avatar strych9 says:

          It depends on who you’re talking about. I consider myself basically a Libertarian. However, at this point I agree with very little the Libertarian Party talks about.

          I don’t feel I left the party. I feel it left me when it was taken over by a bunch of Lefties.

        3. avatar doesky2 says:

          “Libertarians are great…..the Libertarian Party is vanity project”….Dennis Prager

        4. avatar ropingdown says:

          My guess is that only stoners run for libertarian party nomination. Practical people in most states (and for national offices) realize it’s a vain thing to run on that ticket. However, there will be the occasional libertarian who believes they can pull a Ross Perot benefitting their favored D or R candidate.

          The country has gone nuts. I attribute it almost entirely to the mass and cable media going wide, left or right, in order to hold a stable audience. The rest of the bizarre reality seems to flow from the ability of employers to trash employees with opinions the employer disapproves of. I might take up praying, though it’s going to feel strange.

        5. avatar Lcsw says:

          Look up Austin Peterson. The libertarian party was infested with socialists. It’s done. Libertarianism as a politicial philosophy (self-ownership, property rights and non-aggression) is still the most consistent, freedom based and rights first philosophy out there.

      3. avatar ActionPhysicalMan says:

        The Republican party isn’t conservative, that doesn’t mean conservatives aren’t either. Don’t get parties mixed up with the words they use to identify themselves. The definition of libertarian is pretty clear and you don’t even know what it is. Also, produce a link to even one article in Reason (which I posit is the preeminent libertarian media outlet) that is anti gun, socialist, or advocating more UN control in any way. You will find some open border stuff though, but that is the only thing you mentioned that is there. Susan Collins is a Republican, does that mean that all conservatives suck.
        No, I haven’t voted for a Libertarian party candidate in quite some time. I just threw up in the parking lot of my polling station last year for instance. I think I voted for Goldwater in the election before that.

      4. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

        Do keep in mind that the establishment media have a vested interest in making Libertarians look bad, and are only too happy to have them associated with either potheads who are ignorant of Syrian geography on one hand, or rebellious tax-evading gangsters who stage armed takeovers of government wildlife refuges on the other.

    2. avatar Andrew Lias says:

      Ben Shapiro put it best when he said “All they had to do was nominate a Libertarian.”

    3. avatar Choda boy says:

      Gary johnson and bill weld were not libertarians…not even remotely…they were just standard progressive republicans at best

  3. avatar Danny Griffin says:

    Three news stories and not a single one links the bill. I want to see what it takes to get life.

    1. avatar tmm says:

      My thoughts too. What constitutes the banned device, and is it unnecessarily vague?

    2. avatar RustyTheBoyRobot says:

      Here’s the actual text:

      https://malegislature.gov/Bills/190/H4008
      (Page 14, Section 18)

      From my brief read-through, it sounds like it’s getting appended to their assault weapons definitions, so I would assume that the sentencing is tied to existing AW sentencing standards. You have to paste together the wording in the bill with the existing law, which makes for some weird reading.

      On a side note, this sounds interesting:
      “‘Trigger crank’, any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon…; provided, however, that ‘trigger crank’ shall not include any weapon initially designed and manufactured to fire through the use of a crank or lever.”
      It sounds like they’re only outlawing a crank that actuates a trigger. If you have a lower that doesn’t have a trigger at all, just a crank to release the hammer, you would still be clear of this law.

  4. avatar Joe Dihrt says:

    “I am proud of my colleagues in the Legislature for continuing Massachusetts’ reputation as having among the safest… gun laws in the nation.”

    What the fuck does that mean? You mean there are “unsafe” gun laws out there?

    1. avatar joetast says:

      Bahaha that made spit coffee

    2. avatar Rick the Bear says:

      Joe,

      “You mean there are “unsafe” gun laws out there?”

      Pretty much all of them. 8>)

  5. avatar cmac890 says:

    Then again, “assault weapons” and hi-cap mags are also illegal here too. I’m sure there will be similar enforcement of this law. Anyway, I should probably check up on that pistol that isnt secure, make sure it hasnt shot anyone yet.

  6. avatar DUG says:

    She is proud to pass a “State Law” that violates the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to the Constitution. With that logic why can’t they just pass the same law except insert “semi automatic and pistols and rifles”. Is this the government tyranny that gun rights supporters have been talking about?

    1. avatar Mongoose says:

      How far they have fallen from their heritage, Lexington and Concord Green.

  7. avatar Kenneth G Maiden says:

    So I take it that bump stocks were a huge problem in Massachusetts??? Massive gangs and lone criminals running around with these plastic parts causing mayhem of all sorts. MS13 has millions of these in storage just in case?
    What utter BS. Now law abiding AMERICAN citizens must destroy their legally bought property with NO rebate from the government? Sounds like some Constitutional issues here! Tyranny from a out of control government. Nothing less.

  8. avatar The Cancer that is Massachusetts says:

    “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

    ― H.L. Mencken, Prejudices: First Series

  9. avatar Rick the Bear says:

    “…while respecting the rights of gun owners.”

    You know, the rights that are on display in a museum, ’cause they’re not currently available to the reg’lar folks.

    (Re-reminded of why I escaped from the Peoples’ Republik.)

    1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

      There behind the glass stands a real blade of grass. Be careful as you pass, move along, move along.

      1. avatar WI Patriot says:

        I’ll bet you didn’t think anyone would get the reference…Well, someone did…

      2. avatar dlj95118 says:

        …nice reference!

      3. avatar Rob "NazyCegroWithAGun" Williams says:

        Grass is extinct now because of the retrograde folks who supported anthropogenic climate change denial (the same rucking fetards who fetishize their guns and cheerlead every instance of US state terror against nearly defenseless folks in their own home)

    2. avatar Steve says:

      This is standard language, part of almost every action by Democrat lawmakers.

      The further ban by MA AG for scary guns by memo based on FL shooting (get that based on shooting in another state) is part of the cancer and again, saves us all from guns that look military.

      All their words are false justifications and GOAL, NRA, others, need to file suit against all laws that regulate guns not based on gun’s merit within our regulatory climate, but by using the fact that Constitution does not allow Gov’t it limits it. End of story. Until we do, all this is just posturing.

      Now, MA justifies bump stock and certain other things based on the LV shooting (another state). These are all next opportunistic events to invoke further action to ban all guns. Certain states get away with moving the process forward because no one challenges that the process is not perfect. Any law should pass a constitutionality and viability (for citizenry) check before it is allowed to move forward for example.

  10. avatar Tim says:

    “Republican”. Heh.

  11. avatar racer88 says:

    Will they ban belt loops or rubber bands? Or twitchy fingers?

  12. avatar HandyDan says:

    So the penalties for owning a bump stock are greater then violating the laws surrounding the guns they are designed to mimic (up to 10 years in federal prison and up to $10k in fines for a NFA violation). This is beyond absurd. All in the name of useless virtue signaling.

    1. avatar TheUnspoken says:

      I was thinking the same thing, these bump stock criminals might be better off making a real machine gun with a supressor, or stealing an AR and robbing a bank. If you are going to become a criminal anyway, might as well go all the way.

      Though maybe you have to like make a bunch of bump fire stocks and sell them on the internet to get life, maybe just owning one and not reading the news will get you the 18 months.

  13. avatar Imayeti says:

    Another step towards the inevitable surrender to Great Britain. Or a court challenge.

    1. avatar ropingdown says:

      Great Britain? Have you read the new EU gun laws the Commission has recently issued? No semi-auto pistols or rifles? The Czechs are up in arms. In Europe it has definitely become a matter of prosperous people living in ideal towns and parts of cities passing laws that leave the average person subject to the brutalities of the worst rabble, as in the UK today.

      The average EU citizen was so disgusted by his own government, he willingly handed the power over to an appointed central committee. “Nothing could be worse than what we had.” Oh yeah?

  14. avatar maxi says:

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
    Thomas Jefferson

  15. avatar Anonymous says:

    They went full retard. Never go full retard.

    1. avatar Ansel Hazen says:

      I would like to see the NRA go full retard on Massachusetts. If so, I’d scrape for every dollar needed to pay for life membership.

      1. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

        I’d like to see every firearms related business, every defense contractor, and every other business owned by a conservative or at least by someone who still believes in the Constitution go full tard on that state and move the hell out and refuse to do business with any state entity.

      2. avatar MyPrettyAr15 says:

        As someone who is stuck in this state it’s something I would love to see as well, but I’m not holding my breath.

  16. avatar MiniMe says:

    “By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty” — Massachusetts motto

    Ironic, ain’t it?

    1. avatar ropingdown says:

      My god. The next step will be “swords only” for self-defense?

  17. avatar former water walker says:

    Get rid of that bumpstock Ralph!

    1. avatar ropingdown says:

      Probably still bumps, but not a stock.

  18. avatar Ed says:

    All you people are real quick with your revolutionist quotes…if thats how you really feel, why are you not all storming the state house and dealing justice to the tyrants? Fuckin bags of hot air….

    1. avatar Cory C. says:

      Because we live in a country that has a court system and a political process to deal with laws we don’t believe are fair, thereby making it very unlikely that violence is the only answer.

      1. avatar Ansel Hazen says:

        How exactly do you apply that logic to Maura Healy? She who just invokes new law without opposition?

    2. avatar joetast says:

      Bags of hot air,,,,Now hold on there Pardner, not everyone here is from TEXAS.

  19. avatar JDH says:

    Life? This would seem to violate the 8th Amendment. They don’t even give people life for murder in many instances.

    https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/8th-amendment-limitations-on-sentencing.html

  20. avatar Ralph says:

    This action is a tribute to the power of the Irish Mafia that runs Massachusetts and the utter stupidity of the electorate that is willingly led around by their ovaries.

    No, not led around by their balls. They have none.

    1. avatar ropingdown says:

      Irish Mafia on one side, a gaggle of Brahmins and academics on the other. It’s time for the second coming of Cromwell, I suppose.

  21. avatar WI Patriot says:

    “Possible Life Imprisonment for Simple Possession”

    What a joke…talk about overreach…

  22. avatar Nanashi says:

    Anyone hear the NRA talking about sueing over this?

    Neither have I!

  23. avatar Blade says:

    I don’tneed a bumpstock to bumprfire. I just use a rubber band wrapped around the mag well and back around the trigger. I then adjust the tension by either wrapping tighter or looser until just right. There you go … a 5 cent “bumpfire” solution vs a $200 bumpstock.

  24. avatar Ranger Rick says:

    The “Massholes” will be forever safer now.

  25. avatar MDH says:

    We’ll fight this one in the higher courts, and win.

    1. avatar Stereodude says:

      Don’t be so certain. The lefties have had no problem finding leftist judges to block Trump’s actions on immigration. And yet, the law and established court cases couldn’t be more clear that the President has near absolute authority to block any non-citizen visitor from anywhere at anytime from entering the country for as long as he wants.

      1. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

        “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.” – Has President Trump made such a finding to support his “travel bans”? As stated, law seems to require a finding, not just a feeling or unsupported belief.

        1. avatar Adobe Hacienda says:

          A voice of reason? Who the hell let you in here? You can’t be allowed to confuse rightously indignated folks with “Non-alternate facts”.

        2. avatar doesky2 says:

          I bet Trump’s “findings” are based in reality by a higher amount then the previous 200 years of presidents.

  26. avatar notguiltfree says:

    Show of hands people, who feels that there will be a shooting because someone gets caught with a bumpstock and instead of going to jail for possibly life figures it’ll be easier to say screw you and shoot up the enforcement people and try to get away. I perceive a lot of cop cars with bullet holes in the windshield and I don’t think the cops are going to be very willing to take this one on. It’s easier to write tickets and eat donuts knowing your going home at the end of the day, most likely.

  27. avatar Robert Geiger says:

    Hellfire Gen 2. The end.

    1. avatar notguiltfree says:

      If you can get them. I’ve had mine ordered and paid for a while and no sign of them yet or acknowledgement that they are on their way.

      1. avatar Ed says:

        Same here….three weeks and all I know is they have my money. No one even answers the phone. Sketchy…

  28. avatar Fear Itself says:

    This law will be thrown out at first challenge.
    It is in direct violation of Amendment 8, Bill of Rights, US Constitution:

    Excessive Bail, Fines, and Punishments Forbidden;

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    1. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

      Unless they’re paying owners a fair price to turn them in, also violates the 5th Amendment.

      1. avatar Fear Itself says:

        “Fair price”. Good one! (I had to stop laughing before I could type this.)

        No person shall be…
        … deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

        Like, really? That’s going to really happen? Define “Just Compensation”: What it cost plus any improvements or increases in market value. Now define “Just Compensation” according to the government: “What we want to give you, up to but not including two cents on the dollar”.

  29. avatar joetast says:

    Well one thing nice about bump stocks, they are made of plastic. ‘The powers that be” can recycle them and make personal vibrators. Then the ” powers that be” , can plug them into 220vDc shove em up their ass and jump in a bathtub

    1. avatar Ohm MY! says:

      Be very sure they use epsom salts in the bath. It’s the amperage, not the voltage.

  30. avatar Hank says:

    You don’t make criminals into good citizens by legislating good citizens into criminals.

    1. avatar What About Bob says:

      Totally stealing this line.

  31. avatar HP says:

    So all this time I could have bought a bump stock here in New York? I had just assumed the putrid liberals destroying our beautiful state had already outlawed them. I don’t want one, but I sort of do now that I know they don’t want me to have one.

    1. avatar anonymoose says:

      >pistol grip
      >adjustable stock
      >magazine over 5, 7, or 10 rounds

  32. avatar Rez says:

    On top of that, there’s literally no proof bump stocks were used at the Las Vegas shooting. Matter of fact there is literally no proof of any of the authorities’ claims on Vegas.

  33. avatar Terclinger says:

    Massholes.

  34. avatar anonymoose says:

    Not like a bumpstock (without a pistol grip) would do much good with a 10 round magazine on a rifle that’s already “illegal” under the Healey Regime…

  35. avatar Chadwick says:

    Possibility of life imprisonment… What was the deterrent for not killing any officer that tries to detain you for possessing a bump stock? Oh besides common decency, there isn’t at that point. Once again inmocents getting treated like criminals.

    1. avatar HP says:

      That’s one of the problems with going full-totalitarian. When you outlaw something like this and put people in desperate situations, bad things can happen. It’s dangerous to the person and it’s dangerous to law enforcement, all because of the whims of vile liberals.

  36. avatar michael says:

    that law will not save a single life. criminals who are hell bent on killing people do not obey any law. our constitution allows for citizens to keep and bear arms. as for libertarians, i agree with most of their views. weed should be legal and by the way the only good republican in a “RINO”!!

  37. avatar Alexander Twitmyer says:

    So the government will give you life in prison for owning one of these, but deserting your friends and betraying your country? Don’t be too hard on yourself, no punishment for that.

  38. avatar GS650G says:

    They’ll take the next step of outright bans on all guns. They feel emboldened Every time they jam through an unconstitutional law. Sure you can fight it at the SCOTUS if you have standing, money, time and the right attorney to make argument.
    Meanwhile …………………

  39. avatar Quasimofo says:

    How can you get rid of something that you already lost in a boating accident?

    1. avatar Adobe Hacienda says:

      I know, right? They need to make these “Automatic weapons” with built-in floaties. No telling how many have been lost by conservatists shooting Asian Carp in the Illinois River.

  40. avatar injunear says:

    If we’re going to have harsh sentences put on us by elected officials, how about, when an official is caught lying or breaking any law, they are sentenced to life imprisonment? All in favor….

  41. avatar John says:

    Pretty disgusting how your a law abiding civilian in one state, then you cross an imaginary line and you might as well committed murder.

    1. avatar Barry White says:

      A murderer is out in 20.

  42. avatar Arc says:

    Life in prison for having a bump stock? Might as well say screw it and go full auto, it carries a lesser punishment.

  43. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    As a Massachusetts resident, I would like to say…Please help protect other “Free-States” by helping me spread the word about (RINO) Governor. Charlie “The Barker” Baker. This Globalist RINO bastard was on Republican Rock Radio show on WAAF 107.2 fm recently . He was asked by a female co-host about if he’d ban bump stocks after what happened in Vegas…OUR piece of S#!t Globalist RINO rolled off a litany of Anti-PRO 2@ diatribe. He crowed that NO US citizen, or Massachusetts resident should own such a device. And the only reason someone should have one would be if they are part of the Police community, or the military. He continued his anti-gun rights roll by saying Massachusetts has some of the best and toughest gun control laws that work! He said we are safer than any of the other states…So, after witnessing this. As an Independent US voter/taxpayer, I want to do my part and spread the word to help end this mans political career. To make sure his political agendas, and aspirations end at the Massachusetts border. RINO. Governor is nothing more than an elitist globalist bastard who needs to be removed from political office. He is NO friend to the 2nd amendment. And for that matter, the rest of the Bill of Rights. He was caught crowing about making sure Massachusetts residents who appear in secret government watch lists would lose their 2nd amendment rights. This man needs to go…As well as his “GOAL approved, LT. Governor. Karen Politio, Who was supposed to be a PRO 2@ certified politician…” Just another Globalist RINO elitist…Help save other “Free-states”, Don’t let them spread!

  44. avatar Robert says:

    I would like to know if any legal action is being taken by any legal means to modify the new law or grandfather in previous purchases.
    ANY possibility of a Class action Suit against the State of MA etc.., any Law Firm Handling related Complaints.

  45. avatar Barry White says:

    Hate to say it, but this law could get thrown out by a court. The law is a de facto confiscation rule, and those have never held up to legal scrutiny. And especially when the rule threatens life in prison.

  46. avatar Barry White says:

    Life in prison for owning a stock, but 15-20 years for murder. Only in a liberal state like Massachusetts.

    Glad to say it, but this law could get thrown out by a court. The law is a de facto confiscation rule, and those have never held up to legal scrutiny. And especially when the rule threatens life in prison for non-compliance.

    1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

      New Jersey (or was it Maryland?) outlawed certain guns and accessories a while back. There was no grandfathering. The owner had to turn it in to law enforcement, destroy it, or take it out of state. The law even outlawed many common .22 LR rifles.

    2. avatar Fear Itself says:

      “Hate to say it”
      Why? It SHOULD be the truth, but with Mess O’ chew sticks, anything is possible. Not probable, but possible, but would still get tossed further up the appeals system. It is sooo egregiously unconstitutional, its sponsor should get the “Balls Of The Year” award!
      Their slogan, “It’s all here,” should be WE’RE NOT ALL THERE”.

  47. avatar Carlos09 says:

    The “safest gun laws” from the state that literally gave birth to the Second Amendment. Gen. Thomas Howe would have soiled himself.

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