TTAG Daily Digest: A SAFE Act Failure, ‘Racist’ Billboards and a Dog Named Tank

How active shooters are changing school security in the US

Notice there’s one option missing here . . . How active shooters are changing school security in the US

Through training programs like ALICE — Alert, lockdown, inform, counter and evacuate — Rounds and other teachers are learning how to barricade doors with desks and chairs, run away from gunfire and throw everything from pencils to staplers at a potential shooter.

“It’s not really defense techniques, it’s not martial arts of any kind. It basically just gives them options,” Jeffrey Fritz, the Indiana school’s superintendent told CNN affiliate WTHI.

“You might alert, you might lock down, you might try to escape, it just depends on the situation,” he added.

New York's SAFE Act isn't really working, is it?

It’s almost as if New York’s SAFE Act isn’t working at all . . . The Latest: Bystander drove car into gunman during shooting

Police say the man who fired multiple rounds at a store near Buffalo had hundreds of bullets and a second rifle in his vehicle.

Police in the town of (cheek-tuh-WAH’-guh), New York, say 29-year-old Travis Green used a pump-action AR-15-style rifle to shoot out the glass door and windows at a Dollar General store Tuesday afternoon.

Police say they found 850 rounds and what appears to be a semi-automatic rifle with ammunition magazines in his car.

Allegedly racist pro-gun billboards in south New Jersey

How exactly are these racist? . . . ‘Racist’ gun range billboards in South Jersey should come down, activists say. The range’s owner disagrees.

A gun range in Camden County is resisting calls to take down two billboards that activists say aggravate racial tensions and mock NFL players who take a knee during the national anthem.

“It has absolutely nothing to do with race,” said Wesley Aducat, owner of the South Jersey Shooting Club in Winslow Township, which put up one of the billboards several weeks ago near Route 73 in Voorhees Township. The second appears on a digital sign near Routes 73 and 130 in Pennsauken. “It’s just support for our veterans.”

The signs say: “The only time we take a knee…” and show the silhouette of a person shooting a rifle, with the website of the club at the bottom.

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Chicago PD's Most Gun Ignorant Post Ever

Cops typically aren’t gun guys; example No. 5,873 . . . Chicago PD Offers Its Nominee For Most Gun Ignorant Post Ever

People expect the police to understand firearms. After all, they use firearms on a regular basis, right? They carry them on their hips every day and usually have access to something larger in their vehicles. They should know guns.

The reality, however, is that many police officers have little interest in guns. They carry them and, if they’re diligent, practice with them. However, many just don’t know a whole lot about firearms.

For example, take this post from the Chicago Police Department where they brag about taking a deadly weapon off the street . . .

Rancho Tahema shooter Kevin Neal

It’s almost as if even the most stringent gun control laws don’t work at all on criminals or crazies . . . The Tehama County shootings: Why did this guy have guns?

So what about that California law banning certain weapons from certain people who’ve had run-ins with authorities?

It’s called APPS for short, or the Armed and Prohibited Persons System, and it’s designed to allow California law-enforcement officials to automatically track firearm owners and proactively disarm convicted criminals, people with certain mental illnesses, and others deemed dangerous.

But as my colleague Robert Salonga and I wrote recently in this newspaper, APPS is far from a perfect remedy to get crazy people to give up their guns.

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Kentucky homeowner stops robber with a gun and a dog named Tank.

Your feel-good story of the day . . . Armed Louisville homeowner holds off suspect with gun and 150-pound Great Dane named ‘Tank’

The sign at Derek Thomas’ house says, “Nevermind the dog. Beware of the owner.” It shows a gun. But that didn’t keep the stranger away from Thomas’ driveway Saturday night.

“Yeah, he was up to no good, definitely,” Thomas said.

That night, Thomas was locking up after watching a late-night football game, when he noticed a shadow lurking outside his home on Pendleton Road.

“I saw him come from here,” Thomas said, pointing to where he said the shadow was standing by his truck. “He grabbed this door handle, and that door handle.”

Thomas’ wife and three children of ages 3, 7 and 9, were all asleep inside, so he went outside, barefoot.

“As I pulled my gun on him, I said, ‘What the hell are you doing in my truck? Get out of my truck!’ and he crawled back out and basically tried to crawl around the back,” Thomas said. “He did stand up, but when I shot the gun two times, he went back to the ground and stayed good.”

 

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comments

  1. avatar Joel says:

    Did I just read “pump action style AR-15”?!?!??

    1. avatar Rick the Bear says:

      Same reaction here! How does the gas system work? 8>)

    2. avatar Joel says:

      Wow. Just looked them up. They actually exist…

      Apparently they were one of the innovations that followed shortly after the SAFE act passed.

      1. avatar Southern Cross says:

        I first heard about them in the 1990s as a consequence of the Clinton AWB in a SOF magazine (printed type).

        Even in my part of the world they were known in some circles.

    3. avatar John in TX (Was CT) says:

      To be fair, there’s something going on with that rifle. Folding stock = no buffer system, so it’s probably a straight-pull deal.

      1. avatar How_Terrible says:

        It kind of reminds of the straight pull versions of the AR-15’s that are available in Britain.

        Also, while I view those straight pull AR’s as hideous abominations I also kind of want one simply because they look neat. :-\

      2. avatar Sledgecrowbar says:

        The pump AR is basically a manual piston gun, with the op rod/action bar in the usual place, and slots in the handguard to connect to a pump grip. They’re made for states that ban even one ‘feature’ now on semiauto rifles, like NY.

    4. avatar Anon in Ct says:

      It’s kinda fun. Takes regular mags, and has some parts in common. The pump motion is easy, and does not require moving hands (like bolt-action). Accuracy is pretty good, and the Troy folding and adjustable stock is good.

      The fluted chamber really does a number on brass, though.

  2. avatar billy-bob says:

    OMG! 2 guns and 850 rounds! It’s an arsenal! Or just a light trip to the range.

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      +

      850 rounds? Whooooh nice if you didn’t bring too many people with you.

    2. avatar Stinkeye says:

      When it’s a guy shooting up a store, two rifles and a case of ammo takes on a much more sinister aspect.

  3. avatar Hank says:

    The New Springfield Saint will also be changing its name to the Springfield Commisar, and include a new logo featuring a hammer and sickle, to further display the companies political stance. Look for the next line of Springfield Comrade pistols, being released next MayDay.

    1. avatar Shotgun Sam says:

      A billet saint ? OMG what a breathtaking innovation with M4 feed ramps no less!

      Now a welcome gun innovation in the gun world would be the end of Springfield. Wake me when that happens.

      1. avatar Bud harton says:

        and not available from the hundreds of dealers who said, “F you Springfield Armory”

  4. avatar Geoff PR says:

    “…and throw everything from pencils to staplers at a potential shooter.”

    I suggest something far more effective than basic ‘office supplies’ to dissuade an assailant, elemental Pb, aka – Lead.

    Velocities in excess of 1200 fpm should be sufficient.

    Looking over the cited San Jose news URL, I noticed the murderer was out on bail to the tune of $300,000.

    Bail bondsmen I know (from the pawn biz) want an assurance they will be able to collect their usual ten percent fee.

    IOW, $30,000. CASH.

    What did that drug addict possibly have that was worth thirty grand that the bondsman could convert to cash?

    Realistically?

    The good news in this is the bondsman at least gets his 300 grand back…

    1. avatar Hank says:

      All dat bling, yo.

    2. avatar Mark L. says:

      Probably put up by mommy. Her darling little boy couldn’t possibly have done all the mean, nasty things he’s accused of. I’ve seen it so many times but it still amazes me.

    3. avatar Shoeless Joe says:

      I can run 1200 fpm, and I’m 70 years old!

  5. avatar BLAMMO says:

    A suburban Buffalo business owner says he drove his car into a man who had opened fire at a neighboring store, an act of heroism police credit with saving lives.

    I wonder if that would work with these new-fangled cars with automatic braking. If not, they will become man-duh-tory in NY by midnight tonight per “message of necessity” from Andy Boy Cuomo.

  6. avatar FedUp says:

    Racist?
    Of course it is.
    If you disagree in any way with the NFL players’ protests, it just means you’re a racist.
    It can’t possibly mean the NFL players are doing anything that a person might find disagreeable…

    1. avatar Blake says:

      If the person you’re disagreeing with doesn’t look like you it’s racist. Anymore the term just means the person you’ve offended doesn’t have a valid point to make. “Fascist” and “nazi” are in the same club as well.

      Just wait until the youth being taught, and preaching, this crap are old enough to make the decisions about how the country is run. When I’m in a nursing home it’ll be a 30-40 year old child still living with mom and dad taking care of me…

      1. avatar RealityOfRacismAndYourLies says:

        So heres what Kaepernick said over a year ago on Aug 28 2016:

        “I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country. I have family, I have friends that have gone and fought for this country. And they fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone. That’s not happening. People are dying in vain because this country isn’t holding their end of the bargain up, as far as giving freedom and justice, liberty to everybody. That’s something that’s not happening. I’ve seen videos, I’ve seen circumstances where men and women that have been in the military have come back and been treated unjustly by the country they fought have for, and have been murdered by the country they fought for, on our land. That’s not right.”

        https://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/11/12869726/colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protest-seahawks-brandon-marshall-nfl

        In Sept 2016 another NFL player Green Beret Nate Boyer talked with Kaepernick and suggested kneeling instead of sitting to make it clear they were not being disrespectful to the military. According to Boyer:

        “We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammate. Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother’s grave, you know, to show respect”

        According to Kaepernick:

        “We were talking to Boyer about how can we get the message back on track and not take away from the military, not take away from fighting for our country, but keep the focus on what the issues really are. And as we talked about it, we came up with taking a knee. Because there are issues that still need to be addressed and it was also a way to show more respect to the men and women who fight for this country.”

        So Kaepernick made all of this clear over a year ago with his words and his actions. He made it clear that the protest is addressing the indsputably documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks.

        So thats how you can recognize the racism in this billboard, because Kaepernick has made it clear by word and deed, and his fellow NFLer Green Beret Boyer has also made it clear as well that the protest is not disrespecting the military, but that gun club and yall keep nonsensically repeating that the protest is disrespecting the military. And you keep nonsensically repeating this bullsheet because you cant tolerate any discussion of the reality of racism in America, so you smear the black man leading the protest to draw attention to the reality of racism in America, you smear him as unpatriotic to avoid confronting the point of the protest, the indisputably documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks.

        And the above information about Kaepernicks words and deeds making clear the protest is not disrespecting the military is all well known, its been in the public record for over a year, but naturally none of this is included in this article, because this is a racist site. The writer is a racist who only included this article to mock people who draw attention to the reality of racism, you and your fellow posters are racists regularly posting disgusting slurs and making racist commentary like this about Kaepernick, no one here ever corrects the racist posters, and no mods ever warn those posters and edit their posts. I however will no doubt be muzzled for telling you the truth about your racism, so nice knowing you… : D

        I hope all of this is clear to you, its good for you to hear the truth at least once, and now you can go back to nonsensically repeating your bullsheet smearing a decent guy and his many supporters on and off the field.

        1. avatar FedUp says:

          ” the indisputably documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks.”

          And yet, the statistics show that cops are more reluctant to shoot black folks than to shoot white folks. Which makes it rather racist of you to claim the opposite of reality is indisputable.

          The only ‘disproportionately’ part here is that black folks are more likely to have encounters with law enforcement, possibly because they’re more likely to live in higher crime areas.

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Nobody cares. We don’t take the race card around here. Copercunt needs to be dragged out into the street and flogged for sedition. His entire “protest” is based on a bold faced lie.

        3. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          i’m no longer allowed into the cemetery where the body of the guy who raped my sister lies even though i told the staff over a year ago that my repeatedly pissing on his grave was not meant to be disrespectful, rather it was intended to warm his soul in the ground or to cool the flames licking at his being in hell, whichever.

        4. avatar Scoutino says:

          “the indsputably (sic) documented reality of police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks.”

          What FedUp said and then some. In real reality (not your made up “reality”) cops shoot way more white folks when you account for disparity in rate at which blacks and whites commit crimes. Maybe if 6% of population didn’t commit over 50% of solved (and most likely even bigger share of unsolved) murders, they wouldn’t get shot so often?

          For me it makes no difference if they kneel or stand on their heads during National Anthem. If you are not standing up, you are disrespecting not only the military, but the whole Nation.

          Rob, no matter how often you change your handle, we see right through you – to racist, everything is racism.

        5. avatar Huntmaster says:

          Troll

        6. avatar Stinkeye says:

          If the kneeling isn’t disrespectful to the military, why did all but three players stand during the anthem during games on Veteran’s Day weekend? Did all those players suddenly decide the original issue they were supposedly protesting wasn’t important that weekend?

        7. avatar neiowa says:

          Yes “reality” it is sad and pathetic a useless POS revived (and was allowed by his political party) to revive racism in the US so he could achieve his socialist agenda. Now blow your irrelevant whining.

          Kaepernick is just immunizing himself in attempting to get a job playing a kiddie game.

        8. avatar Professor not quite as successful as one wanted says:

          Professor Manque, you’re back!

        9. avatar Wzrd says:

          Whatever Kaepernick’s reasons, people have the right to disagree with the method of protest. And that does not make them racist. You know what creates more racism? One particular race of people claiming that every little thing they don’t like is racist. Or that every person of a different specific race is racist. You sir are a hypocrite.

        10. avatar SpeakUpNow says:

          Scoutino what happened, you got so quiet after I showed you a documented correction to your racist delusion? I embarrassed you so badly by highlighting your ignorance, you cant even muster a “nuh-uh is not”?

          Here again is your delusion:

          “In real reality (not your made up “reality”) cops shoot way more white folks when you account for disparity in rate at which blacks and whites commit crimes.”

          And again the documented reality:

          “There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
          http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

          So the reality I documented for you remains despite your desperate excuse:

          “The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans… ”
          http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

          Ive been waiting for your slew of unsourced racist excuses,and remember if you cant make it plausible try to be entertaining : D

      2. avatar ironicatbest says:

        Or a 16 year old kid that don’t speak english

        1. avatar WhoDoesn't... says:

          “Or a 16 year old kid that don’t speak english”

          GOLD! I love it when posts refute themselves, nothing like a barely literate prig, thanks for the laughs : D

      3. avatar Respect1AAsMuchAs2ACENSORS says:

        Well pwrserge Dan Zimmerman cared enough to post it to the site, and I know many white folks who never miss a chance to share a story of white folks suffering interpersonal racism from black folks, or black folks behaving badly misidentified as Black Lives Matter folks, or as in this case sharing a story of folks drawing attention to racism but doing so only for the purpose of mocking “How exactly are these racist?”…

        Be honest, you care deeply, you know how important it is to you to always belittle anyone who broachs the topic of racism, you do it everytime and youve been doing it for years and will til the day you die… denying the existence or significance of racism is one of your core values, and youre still extra wound up after living under a black president for eight long years…

        And Im glad yall “… don’t take the race card around here” because Im not playing cards or any other game, Im citing the evidence about something as far from a game as it gets… the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black follks…

        If you like video games I CHALLENGE YOU TO PLAY THIS FPS GAME http://psych.colorado.edu/~jclab/FPST.html
        Subjects from all walks of life have played and more often mistakenly shoot the unarmed black suspects

        And in the real world this peer reviewed study found “evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans”
        http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

        1. avatar Huntmaster says:

          Troll

      4. avatar WakeyWakeyBlakey! says:

        So Blake heres how you can recognize the racist intent of that billboard.

        Kaepernick and White Green Beret Boyer have made it absolutley clear by word (Kaepernick said he appreciates and respects the military, that he has family and friends in the military) and by deed (at Boyers suggestion Kaepernick switched from sitting to kneeling to stress that he appreciates and respects the military, that of course he has no interest in disrespecting the military, that the point is to draw attention to the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks) that they are not disrespecting the military, and they made this clear over a year ago, yet that gun club continues to nonsensically insist that they are disrespecting the military. Despite this reality this gun club refuses to acknowledge that the protest is about police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks and continues to absurdly insist over a year later despite all evidence to the contrary that they are disrespecting the military!

        This is a fact. So your claim that you are “disagreeing” is nonsense, you cant disagree (or agree) with the fact that the protest is about police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks. No matter how many times and for how many more years folks continue to nonsensical insist despite all evidence to the contrary that the protest is about disrespecting the military, that fact remains. The protest is about police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks, this fact remains no matter what nonsense the gun club claims.

        If that gun club had a protest about a 2nd amendment issue and Kaepernick endlessly ignored their issue and nonsensically repeated that no their protest is about racism, then you could recognize how irrational this kind of behavior is.

        Or if you held a protest against bad apples and I just kept repeating for over a year that youre protesting bad oranges, you would of course recognize how ridiculous it is that Im telling you what your protest is about!

        So the billboard is racist because they continue to ignore the message of the protest (police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks) and lie thats its about disrespecting the military. The gun club continues to deny the meaning of the protest (police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks) and despite all evidence to the contrary smear Kaepernick as unpatriotic.

        I hope this is clear to you.

    2. avatar Respect1AAsMuchAs2ACENSORS says:

      And Fed Up likewise your claim is not supported by the evidence:

      “… the statistics show that cops are more reluctant to shoot black folks than to shoot white folks.”

      I just showed you a peer reviewed study documenting that police disproportionately shoot unarmed black folks. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

      And youre badly confused that any statistics exist that indicate such a phenomenon (often termed “reverse racism” by the ignorant and of course by racists) . If you link the study that you think concluded this Ill explain what it actually concludes. Maybe this one?
      https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/e1/3e1b5a2a-7af4-5e2c-85b6-5120b2691fb3/56d88212a372c.pdf.pdf

      1. avatar Huntmaster says:

        Troll

        1. avatar tickTalk says:

          Gnome

        2. avatar JimboDurantSC says:

          What a world

    3. avatar DelusionAntidote says:

      So here we have Scoutinos fantasy:

      “In real reality (not your made up “reality”) cops shoot way more white folks when you account for disparity in rate at which blacks and whites commit crimes.”

      And again the reality:

      “There is no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
      http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

      So the reality I documented for you remains despite your desperate excuse:

      “The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans… ”
      http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854

      I know you have plenty more unsourced racist excuses so keep em comin champ, if you cant make it plausible try to be entertaining : D

    4. avatar JimboDurantSC says:

      And let me explain to you Wzrd the many reasons your very post is racist!

      1. You give us your racist riff on black folks being the cause of racism, that the victims of racism are actually the cause of racism because they just wont shut up about it, its always racist this and racist that etc :

      “… what creates more racism? (black) people claiming that every little thing they don’t like is racist”.

      2. The issue is the police disproportionately shooting black folks. You know more about guns than me so presumably you really appreciate what a serious thing it is to be shot. And to walk around knowing that merely because your black you are more likely to be shot by the very people who are supposed to protect you… and to get no justice in court. You want to pretend this is insignificant, what you call:

      “… every little thing they don’t like…”

      You remind me of my racist mother discussing the riots in the 60s as if they were senseless temper tantrums, complaining that “…they riot about every little thing.”

      3. And in your weaselly way you racistly claim that black folks create racism by noting that white folks are racist:

      “You know what creates more racism? (black) people claiming… that every (white)person is racist.”

      So first of all youre exaggerating, black folks dont claim all white folks are overt racists(like you are : D ), youre just so intolerant of any discussion of racism, youre so determined to pretend it doesnt exist that you cant tolerate any mention of racism.

      Secondly all white folks(and black folks too!(more on that later)) do exhibit what social scientists term implicit bias, this means all white folks at a visceral or subconscious level hold white supremacist delusions and so unintentionally treat black folks unfairly.

      Thats whats happening with the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks (http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854), the racial stereotype of black folks as threatening, violent, and criminal persists at some level and so police treat black folks unfairly. http://psych.colorado.edu/~jclab/FPST.html

      Thats whats happening in the peer reviewed study when employers invite identical resumes with black names to interview 50% less.
      http://www.cos.gatech.edu/facultyres/Diversity_Studies/Bertrand_LakishaJamal.pdf

      I could draw your attention to countless other documented aspects of racism in every area of society. You see thats why people talk about it, because its everywhere, and everywhere it exists it harms black folks. AND it harms black folks that so many folks like you exist who think all of that is “a little thing” and that racism only exists in folks minds

      Sincerely, the only racism I reckon you can recognize is if someone got on the PA and shouted “NI#@ER” over and over, or if the KKK had a ticker tape parade, otherwise you dont see any problem, particularly since it never disadvantages you…

    5. avatar JimboDurantSC says:

      Yall white guys who didnt go to college are just a very different kind of man. Yall are small men compared to folks like me…

      When I first witnessed and heard about racism I was fascinated, I talked with folks and read widely in history and social science; I couldnt believe the awful things racist white folks had done, and I was stunned to find out I had something in common with them (implicit bias) as much as I didnt want to. This was so shocking and disturbing, it really upset me.

      But yall were never especially curious about the ongoing history of racism except to mine history for aberant examples of black folks owning slaves or fighting for the confederacy etc, and these days you are downright bitter and resentful that so much time is devoted to issues involving racism. And if youve ever even heard of implicit bias before I explained it to you you immediately dismissed it as bullsheet

      When I hear some one talk about racism my impulse is to empathize, to imagine myself into their shoes and really try to feel what that would be like. And it sparks my intellectual curiosity so I would go read a pile a books and studies to try to figure out whats going onBut yall are selfish, you dont care what it feels like for them, you just want them to shut up, and unless its some neo-confederate hockum you wont be reading about the history of racism anytime soon…

      So Im sorry youre such a small man, but youre irredeemably deplorable (Clinton got at least one thing right) in this sense, but at least you heard the truth once in your emotionally and intellectually blighted life : D

    6. avatar JimboDurantSC says:

      You no read so good huh Wzrd? I already explained that there is nothing to disagree/agree about. Your claim that you are “disagreeing” is nonsense, you cant disagree (or agree) with the fact that the protest is about police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks. This a fact, you ARE NOT disagreeing.

      What you ARE doing is denying Kaepernick’s right to protest the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks. You ARE denying his right by insisting that YOU have the right to decide what HIS protest is about!! When Kaepernick talks about racism in policing you and the gun club IGNORE the point of the protest and SMEAR him as unpatriotic. Then when folks point out that it is racist to ignore and smear someone for broaching the topic of racism you MOCK us as if racism only exists in our minds.

      If that gun club had a protest about a 2nd amendment issue and Kaepernick endlessly ignored their issue and nonsensically repeated that no their protest is about racism, then you could recognize how irrational this kind of behavior is.

      Or if you held a protest against bad apples and I just kept repeating for over a year that youre protesting bad oranges, you would of course recognize how ridiculous it is that Im telling you what your protest is about!

      So the billboard is racist because they continue to ignore the message of the protest (police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks) and lie thats its about disrespecting the military. The gun club continues to deny the meaning of the protest (police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks) and despite all evidence to the contrary smear Kaepernick as unpatriotic.

      I hope this is clear to you.

  7. avatar TX Gun Gal says:

    Just in case you didn’t click on the link which explains what the guy said to the dirtbag
    “If you run I’m not going to chase you but my dog (Tank) will catch you
    Great Danes are pretty mellow dogs, but they do have the “if it runs, I will chase it” DNA
    Danes are huge dogs, some a bit clumsy. Two I used to petsit for had to be careful they didn’t bump me and knock me into the swimming pool.
    Pretty much any breed of dog can mess you up if it thinks you are a threat to to their people.

    1. avatar ironicatbest says:

      I thot great Danes was attack dogs back in the old days? I sure do like dogs. If a chihuahua was a big as a great Dane, that’d be scary.

    2. avatar Huntmaster says:

      A well bred dane isn’t clumsy, or cheap. You don’t get one just because you can write the check. They are a little hard to come by and they just need a little more room to move around.

      1. avatar Huntmaster says:

        The scariest dogs would be a couple of pissed of pharaoh hounds. Picture a shark feeding frenzy.

    3. avatar tickTalk says:

      I grew up with lots of Danes.. they are the biggest lap dogs around.
      Incredibly patient with kids, loyal, smart, protective, and yes, very mellow…

      But god help anyone who threatens a Dane’s family. I have seen trespassers leave a yellow trail all the way back over the fence after just a warning growl. A pissed off 180lb harlequin is a sight to behold.

  8. avatar JW says:

    How does one clean the Traitorline™ off of the new Springfield SAINT Edge after unboxing?

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      Not even an Aussie, gun-grab-and-melt squad could make it go away. It’d leave a greasy KY streak on the recycled steel block.

  9. avatar Dan Nugent says:

    Id be willing to sponsor him for U.S. citizenship seeing that hes a red blooded patriot whos rights shall not be infringed upon!

  10. avatar John in AK says:

    I would prefer that S&W kept their munificent $50.00 rebate on my prospective new revolver, and used that money to NOT poke a hole in the frame just above the cylinder release, scribe a silly arrow above it, and put useless extra parts into my new revolver that allow me to turn it on and off with a key as Madame “DeFarge” Clinton wants me to do. In exchange, I would pay full-bore retail for their new revolver. More than one, in fact.
    However as they will not do this for me, they will thus be able to keep both their $50.00 and their new revolver, and I will use the money that I save by not buying their new revolver to purchase an older one that needs no ‘key’ to start it.
    That, surely, is worth $50.00.

  11. avatar ironicatbest says:

    If nobody ask me, S&W been junk since the 80’s, started cutting corners on quality and materials. Can’t remember what 9mm s&w had that all the cops carried, they was junk. Bought a .22 pistol s&w on a whim, it shot straight but had a iitty bitty diameter barrel surrounded by luminum, junk. My former bosses .357 junk compared to old ones. Sigmas look like Glocks and their both junk. But I’m just prejudiced against guns made outta plastic, they just ain’t all a gun can be, no pretty wood, polished steel with that to die for Colt Royal blue. That’s not just a gun it’s art. Dragging out them tacked out black guns don’t help gun grabbers attitudes, they look at them like, “Are those plastic guns real? .They are!!! That’s some seriously scary junk.”

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      Junk S&W 9mm?
      5906?
      4506?

    2. avatar TrueBornSonofLiberty says:

      Whatever you say FUDD. IMO, wood no longer has a place on any new firearms being manufactured or sold in the US. All guns should be black and semi auto. Period.

      1. avatar Scoutino says:

        Guys, guys, there is enough room for every taste. Don’t like certain style? Simply don’t buy it. To each his own etc.

        1. avatar ironicatbest says:

          Lol, ,, there all junk but the ones I like. :)/snarc

  12. avatar Serpent_Vision says:

    Surprised the article on the Chicago PD didn’t ding them for the “7.62 caliber” rather than 7.62mm. 7.62 caliber does sound like a good weapon to get off the street…

    1. avatar Snatchums says:

      If you’re beastly enough to haul around an almost 8” cannon…… I’ll let you keep it and do whatever you like.

    2. avatar John in AK says:

      Perhaps not. If the gun has a 7.62mm bore, and it is 7.62 caliber (length of the barrel measured in multiples of bore diameter, as with cannon), that means that the barrel is 58.06mm long, or about 2 1/4″.
      On the other hand a 7.62″ caliber gun (194mm) would be rather difficult to conceal, and nearly impossible to turn on its side to shoot ‘properly.’ It’d be hard to sneak up on somebody towing one.
      As example, the USS Missouri’s cannon were 16″ 50-caliber guns; That means they were 16″ bore diameter (406mm) guns, 66′ feet long.
      Isn’t math fun?

  13. avatar WI Patriot says:

    I guess no one has ever fired from the kneeling position before…go figure…

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      Racist unless you hold the gat on it’s side (while smoking a joint).

      1. avatar Bud Harton says:

        and holding your pants up

  14. avatar Wzrd says:

    JimboDurantSC
    This is a joke right? It’s hard to tell if you’re serious or sarcastic or stupid. “You no read so good huh?” Another hypocrite.
    I mentioned the METHOD of protest- that can be, & is disagreeable for many people. Not the purpose of the protest. And I never mentioned black or white or Asian or Hispanic or aborigine or any other specific racial group in my comment. You inserted black & white. You inferred it, regardless of what I might’ve meant to imply. It just so happens that my comment fits pretty well with modern American race relations between blacks & whites. Modern. We’re not talking about the 60s or the 1800s when some really horrendous racist atrocities were being committed. And in yet another example of your poor reading comprehension: I didn’t say (black) folks are THE CAUSE of racism. I said people always claiming they’re victims of racism when they are in fact not, creates MORE racism. MORE being the key word. Ever heard of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”? I learned that story in elementary school. They didn’t teach you too well in that fancy book learnin’ college schoolin’ you did, huh?

    1. avatar WzrdNoReadSoGood says:

      You still no read so good Wzrd

      And let me explain to you Wzrd the many reasons your very post is racist!

      1. You give us your racist riff on black folks being the cause of racism, that the victims of racism are actually the cause of racism because they just wont shut up about it, its always racist this and racist that etc :

      “… what creates more racism? (black) people claiming that every little thing they don’t like is racist”.

      2. The issue is the police disproportionately shooting black folks. You know more about guns than me so presumably you really appreciate what a serious thing it is to be shot. And to walk around knowing that merely because your black you are more likely to be shot by the very people who are supposed to protect you… and to get no justice in court. You want to pretend this is insignificant, what you call:

      “… every little thing they don’t like…”

      You remind me of my racist mother discussing the riots in the 60s as if they were senseless temper tantrums, complaining that “…they riot about every little thing.”

      3. And in your weaselly way you racistly claim that black folks create racism by noting that white folks are racist:

      “You know what creates more racism? (black) people claiming… that every (white)person is racist.”

      So first of all youre exaggerating, black folks dont claim all white folks are overt racists(like you are : D ), youre just so intolerant of any discussion of racism, youre so determined to pretend it doesnt exist that you cant tolerate any mention of racism.

      Secondly all white folks(and black folks too!(more on that later)) do exhibit what social scientists term implicit bias, this means all white folks at a visceral or subconscious level hold white supremacist delusions and so unintentionally treat black folks unfairly.

      Thats whats happening with the police disproportionately shooting unarmed black folks (http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141854), the racial stereotype of black folks as threatening, violent, and criminal persists at some level and so police treat black folks unfairly. http://psych.colorado.edu/~jclab/FPST.html

      Thats whats happening in the peer reviewed study when employers invite identical resumes with black names to interview 50% less.
      http://www.cos.gatech.edu/facultyres/Diversity_Studies/Bertrand_LakishaJamal.pdf

      I could draw your attention to countless other documented aspects of racism in every area of society. You see thats why people talk about it, because its everywhere, and everywhere it exists it harms black folks. AND it harms black folks that so many folks like you exist who think all of that is “a little thing” and that racism only exists in folks minds

      Sincerely, the only racism I reckon you can recognize is if someone got on the PA and shouted “NI#@ER” over and over, or if the KKK had a ticker tape parade, otherwise you dont see any problem, particularly since it never disadvantages you…

      1. avatar Wzrd says:

        You’re just repeating yourself. The same drivel you posted earlier and I’ve seen you post in comments sections on other articles on this site. Almost verbatim. Take your BS elsewhere because nobody here gives a shit what your opinion is. And it is just that- opinion- despite you proclaiming it as incontrovertible fact. Go eat a dick, or more preferably a bullet.

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