TTAG Daily Digest: The PLCAA at Work, DHS Loses Hundreds of Guns and Hoosier Legislative Sausage

The NYT's Nicholas Kristof pushed gun control after the NY City terrorist truck attack.

Never let a crisis go to waste . . . NYT Columnist Gets Torched For Pushing Gun Control Talking Points After NYC Terror Attack

In the aftermath of the attack, Kristof tweeted, “The NYC terrorist had a pellet gun and a paintball gun. Good thing that in NYC he couldn’t buy assault rifles, or the toll would be higher.” Dude, are you kidding me? First, yes—let’s breathe a sigh of relief that he didn’t use a gun. It’s not like he used a motor vehicle or anything (my Lord). Second, terrorists and criminals don’t follow the law (obviously), and Saipov wasn’t from New York, so what does strict gun laws have anything do with this incident? Did Kristof even read the Associated Press or any other news report prior to sending this tone-deaf tweet? If he didn’t, then it’s still inexcusable. This was a terrorist attack; it’s not the time to hold a study hall on gun control, man. Kristof got torched—and rightfully so. And the liberal media wonders why they’re not trusted. You think Kristof would’ve stopped commenting on gun policy after his misfire on the Las Vegas shooting.

DHS loses hundreds of guns and badges. Regularly.

The real news here is that this piss-poor performance is actually an improvement over the previous period . . . Watchdog: DHS employees lost 228 firearms over three years

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) personnel lost more than 200 firearms and close to 1,900 badges over a three-year period, according to a new watchdog report.

Between fiscal 2014 and 2016, DHS personnel lost 228 firearms, 1,889 badges and 25 secure immigration stamps, with many left unattended or unsecured, DHS’s Office of the Inspector General said in an audit released Tuesday.

Those numbers are down slightly from the inspector general’s last audit, conducted in 2010, which found that DHS personnel lost 289 handguns, rifles and shotguns over a three-year period.

The PLCAA protects gun makers when their lawful products are used for criminal purposes

Maybe because Stephen Paddock was to blame . . . Las Vegas Shooting Victims’ Lawsuits Blame Everyone Except Gun Makers

The Las Vegas shooting massacre on October 1 so far has spurred at least a half-dozen lawsuits, but gun makers are not among the targets.

Claiming negligence, plaintiffs have sued gunman Stephen Paddock’s estate; the hotel from which he fired, the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino; the organizer of the music festival at which he fired, Live Nation Entertainment; MGM; and even bump stock manufacturer Slide Fire Solutions. But gun makers have been left alone because a more than decade-old law has afforded them special protections.

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed by Congress in 2005, provides gun manufacturers, dealers and distributors with immunity from civil liability in state and federal court. It is unique to the gun industry and trade associations.

The Army wants more recoilless rifles in Afghanistan...quickly.

Does anyone else get the feeling that there’s a new emphasis on making progress in Afghanistan these days? . . . Army Rushes M3A1 Recoilless Rifles to Afghanistan

The U.S. Army is rushing 1,000 new M3E1 Multi-Role Anti-Armor Anti-Personnel Weapon Systems, or MAAWS, to Afghanistan, according to Scout Warrior.

The M3E1 is the latest version of the 84mm Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle that special operations forces have been using since the early 1990s. It’s lighter, shorter and more ergonomically designed.

The Army is fast-tracking acquisition of more than 1,000 upgraded, lightweight shoulder-fired weapons able to destroy enemy targets hidden behind rocks, trees and buildings, service officials told Scout Warrior.

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Looks like a big brown UPS truck lost some guns.

Anyone offer you any cheap guns lately? . . . Authorities Looking for Guns Stolen From Springfield (Missouri) UPS

Federal authorities are looking for suspects who stole a shipment of guns from a Springfield postal facility.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives said in news release Tuesday that sometime between Saturday evening and Sunday morning, the suspects broke into trailers at the facility and took several items, including a shipment of firearms.

Lithuanian gun runners tried to smuggle a car load of firearms into the UK

Where there’s demand, there will always be someone looking to fill it . . . Lithuanian gun runners hid firearms in specially adapted car

Two Lithuanian men have been jailed for attempting to smuggle a huge haul of guns, ammunition and silencers into the UK in a specially adapted car.

Border Force officers stopped driver Aivaras Vysniauskas, 33, (above left) and his passenger Gytis Vysniauskas (above right), 46, at Dover on 6 March 2016.

A search of their Peugeot car revealed a purpose built concealment around the transmission housing (below). Inside, officers discovered ten Russian-made Baikal handguns, ten silencers and around 100 rounds of 9mm ammunition.

Both men were arrested and the investigation was handed to the National Crime Agency.

Indina Rep Jim Lucas wants to remove hurdles to bearing arms.

How Hoosier legislative sausage is made . . . Indiana panel avoids specifics on handgun licensing changes

An Indiana legislative panel proved gun shy Monday, when members avoided directly endorsing a proposal that would eliminate Indiana’s law requiring a license to carry a handgun in public.

The Joint Committee on Judiciary and Public Policy had spent more than 10 hours in recent months hearing testimony on the proposal by Republican Rep. Jim Lucas, of Seymour, who argues that the license requirement infringes on the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment.

But rather than make a specific recommendation for the legislative session that begins in January, the panel voted 15-5 on Monday to back the removal of what a resolution calls licensing “hurdles” for those who want to carry a handgun.

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  1. avatar Gordon in MO says:

    I wonder how much a DHS badge is worth on the black market?

    Agent short of money? Just sell it.

    1. avatar Ragnar says:

      Badges reported “lost” by LEOs often are still in the possession of the reporting officer.

    2. avatar The Punisher says:

      What’s really astonishing isn’t that they “lost” anything..it’s that this alphabet agency is actually supposed to be legitimate and have authority.

      These are the clowns we entrust our “safety” and “security” to!

      It’s so funny that people scream for “laws” that would require people to lock up their guns in their own homes or face prosecution but yet the ordained high priests of their sacred government just walk around apparently losing guns and badges and who knows what else – but that’s ok because – government.

      We have the government we deserve.

  2. avatar Stinkeye says:

    That picture of the two Lithuanians looks like it came from a phrenology textbook circa 1890.

  3. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    ‘…plaintiffs have sued gunman Stephen Paddock’s estate…’

    Now that’s the one entity that is fully liable.

    ‘The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed by Congress in 2005, provides gun manufacturers, dealers and distributors with immunity from civil liability in state and federal court. It is unique to the gun industry and trade associations.’

    Wrong. The PLCAA did not grant ‘unique’ immunity to the gun industry. Rather the PLCAA had to be passed to force activist judges to hold the gun industry to the same standards they hold every single other industry in this country. No other industry is held liable for the criminal misuse of their product.

    1. avatar BLoving says:

      Thanx, Gov.
      I was about to jump in here and point that out too. 🤠

    2. avatar ProfessorManque says:

      ‘The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), passed by Congress in 2005, provides gun manufacturers, dealers and distributors with immunity from civil liability in state and federal court. It is unique to the gun industry and trade associations.’

      Wrong. The PLCAA did not grant ‘unique’ immunity to the gun industry. Rather the PLCAA had to be passed to force activist judges to hold the gun industry to the same standards they hold every single other industry in this country. No other industry is held liable for the criminal misuse of their product.

    3. avatar ProfessorManque says:

      Im so sorry but EVERY INDUSTRY is liable to be sued if they behave negligently and EVERY COMPANY is liable to be sued if they market ANY PRODUCT without proper safety features.

      EXCEPT FOR GUN COMPANIES because of the PLCAA

      So if a gun company fails to do its due diligence during a sale and makes a negligent sale that allows someone to commit a gun crime they can not be sued. NO OTHER INDUSTRY enjoys this bizarre exemption. If you were drunk and the bar continued to negligently sell you drinks, or if they allowed someone with a suspended license to buy and register to drive a car then of course you could sue.

      Likewise if a gun company fails to install safety devices on its product they can not be sued. NO OTHER INDUSTRY enjoys this bizarre exemption. If you were sold liquor that made you go blind, or a car with seat belts that snapped when you crashed then of course you could sue.

      So thats the indisputably documented reality all non-gun-nuts recognize, despite your disinformation and am-radio mantra “activist judges”; the reality is it was activist gun-nuts bullying retrograde legislators so the gun companies now uniquely enjoy legal immunity no other industry enjoys; gun companies alone of all the industries in America can sell negligently and without installing safety devices and run zero risk of being sued.

      And no one except yall brainwashed liars will claim otherwise : D
      And thats the triple truth Ruth!!! : D

      1. avatar Curtis in IL says:

        You don’t read the news much, do you?
        Google “Remington class action suit” or “Taurus class action suit.”

        Gun manufacturers who make defective products do get sued, sometimes successfully.

      2. avatar piper says:

        Gee professor, it’s almost like the United States has a Second Amendment or something, and protects it.

      3. avatar Anomaly In Progress says:

        You should really reconsider your banter. While we once felt scorn toward you, now it has turned to pity.

        What a pathetic creature you are.

      4. avatar Justsomeguy says:

        You simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Filling up several paragraphs with nothing but your ignorant drivel simply demonstrates the fact.

      5. avatar Big Bill says:

        “EXCEPT FOR GUN COMPANIES because of the PLCAA”

        You really need to exercise some of that intelligence and education you brag about.
        The PLCAA does not protect gun makers from liability for defective (either design or manufacture) products.
        The more you post, the dumber you prove yourself to be. A simply Google search would show how wrong your are.
        You really need to examine the premises you start from; simply because your betters tell you something doesn’t mean it’s so.

      6. avatar sian says:

        Verifiably, completely wrong, to such an extent that you’ve just torpedoed any hope of ever being taken seriously here.

      7. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Dude! You seem to have been delivered without proper safety devices on your mouth. Who can I sue? (Hidden message-you are a liar. Or produce a source other than “everybody indisputably universally have proven repeatedly” or such garbage.)

      8. avatar Lotek says:

        Your parents need to be sued for producing a defective product.

  4. avatar former water walker says:

    Gotta’ love Indiana. Lifetime CC and open carry already and they’re probably getting Constitutional Carry. As far as the NY goofball calling for gun control after a mowdown I predicted it. From the twitterpatted gal who stated “he pointed a gun at me” to the “news” calling Akbar a “gunman” they’re trying to steer the conversation. No gun-no gunman😫I’m thinking he wanted suicide by cop as his entrance to paradise…

  5. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    Well, actually looking at what the legislation says is getting traction (On Twitter, via Twitchy):

    “The “ban on bump stocks” is DOA because @TheDemocrats wrote to bill to effectively ban all semi-autos, of course.#txlege #copolitics https://t.co/o6FIZz2BIf

    — Tom (@BoreGuru) November 1, 2017″

    Kudos to everyone who — er, put a warning shot across their congress-critters’ bows.

    1. avatar ProfessorManque says:

      Last time I tried to remedy the ignorance of yall gun-nuts it was all about the UN confiscating your guns, are you done with that silly crap or does it run in cycles? I found that delusion of yours particularly entertaining…

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Professional Macaque,

        You are the latest example of countless people who declare that firearm owners are ignorant and who appoint themselves supremely enlightened status to “remedy firearm owners’ ignorance”.

        For someone who claims to be so enlightened, it is truly astonishing that you fail to see how thoroughly disgusting, offensive, and counterproductive your proclamations are.

        1. avatar Anomaly In Progress says:

          Like a child, one who cannot postulate an eloquent and logical argument must refer to childish name-calling and simple pejoratives…or just stand up yet another straw man.

          ProfessorManque, who appears to be at the dawn of epiphany regarding the use of punctuation, still cannot figure out the concept of sound premises and valid conclusions.

  6. avatar BierceAmbrose says:

    Kristof tweeted, “The NYC terrorist had a pellet gun and a paintball gun. Good thing that in NYC he couldn’t buy assault rifles, or the toll would be higher.”

    Too bad nobody was armed-up to stop him sooner. Really, “let them drive until they can’t drive any more” seems an expensive strategy for stopping them.

  7. avatar onezero says:

    AP article is great, a UPS facility is not a Postal Facility. The firearms dealer I for does not ship FedEx or UPS on Thur or Fri so they will not sit at a facility over the weekend.

  8. avatar st381183 says:

    Yeah PLCAA. No other industry…..hmmmm….no one sues GM when a drunk driver gets behind the wheel and kills a family…..is anyone from NY going to sue truck manufacturers for a terrorist mowing down pedestrians? PLCAA just codifies that gun manufacturers aren’t liable when their product is used illegally, much like GM isn’t sued when someone uses one of their cars in an accident. If a gun hurts someone due to a defect of manufacturing then the gun’s manufacturer can be sued. More misleading liberal BS.

    1. avatar Mike B in WI says:

      Yea, and a LGS in Milwaukee was successfully sued for selling a gun to a (fairly obvious) straw buyer that was subsequently used to shoot two cops and severely injure both of them.

      1. avatar Mike B in WI says:

        Of course it was the *gun* that was used to shoot the cops, not the *straw buyer*.

        *Sigh* Grammar, it is a thing.

        1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          i think you were right the first time. not grammatically, but factually.

  9. avatar AFGus says:

    Sounds like there are quite a few people in the US who shouldn’t be allowed to carry firearms……and they all work for the Federal Government. 😏

  10. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Nicholas Kristof is a proud homosexual who is socialist progressive in his political orientation. He totally supports using the government welfare industrial complex to tell straight people who they can have sex with and who they can’t have sex with. He hates the traditional family. He likes having a black father be replaced with a welfare check. This proud homosexual supports gun free zones in public housing projects.

  11. avatar 10x25mm says:

    Second City Cop is reporting that the UPS firearms thieves got about 1,000 firearms, including about 600 handguns.

  12. avatar michael says:

    typical indiana politics, kick the can down the road to avoid addressing the issue at hand. there has been talk of eliminating the costly and unnecessary permit for concealed carry for some time but so far it has only come to “we will talk about it”. you have to remember that indiana has politicians that passed a 10 a gallon gas tax increase effective in july that they claimed had broad public support but i have not come into contact with anyone that has claimed to support it!!

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