Dozens of Servicemen Not Reported to NICS by Air Force: Quote of the Day

Dozens of airmen not reported to NICS by Air Force

courtesy businessinsider.com and US Air Force

“The error in the (Devin) Kelley case was not an isolated incident and similar reporting lapses occurred at other locations. Although policies and procedures requiring reporting were in place, training and compliance measures were lacking.” – Air Force Official Statement in Air Force Failed to Report Dozens of Service Members to Gun Database [via nytimes.com]

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  1. avatar Alan Esworthy says:

    Clearly we need more laws to make it illegal to do anything illegal. That’s sure to make everything better.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Well, we clearly need a law making it illegal to NOT report criminal behavior that would allow the government to add the person to an UNCONSTITUTIONAL list of persons prohibited, by the government, to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, as protected by the Second Amendment admonition that the government “…shall not be infringed.”

      What could possibly go wrong? It’s not like the government would continue to expand the list of crimes it felt authorized such prohibitions to misdemeanors or anything.

      “But they’re CRIMINALS!”

      Yes, and that very fact, in a country with 250,000 sworn police personnel and 16 MILLION citizens with State Permission Slips to carry concealed weapons, certifies, without need of examination by a licensed psychiatrist, that they have a serious mental disorder. Those people should be so adjudicated and incarcerated for treatment under the “Danger to self and others” doctrine. I can’t think of a better method to protect the people from such predators nor a better punishment for the perps than to turn them over to psychiatrists.

      Added benefit, it might keep the psychiatrists busy enough that they don’t bother the rest of the population.

  2. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    More like “Thought-Crimes” will be added to the Prohibited Persons schedule”. Via the secret government watch lists of rebel US citizens attempting to own any kind of weapon NOT authorized by local/city/state/federal Law Enforcement, and Your Local/City/state Political party official…Sounds alot like the old Soviet union to me….

    1. avatar ironicatbest says:

      The powers that be are already working on what “they” term “irregular” brain patterns. The future looks like the future of the past futures present futures past future, but I could be right.

  3. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    Has anyone been to the “New Ministry of Government Love ” yet…How I came to love BIG BROTHER , surrender my rights, liberties, and the 2nd Amendment….

  4. avatar Gman says:

    “The National Instant Criminal Background Check System is critical for us to be able to keep guns out of the hands of those that are prohibited from owning them,” Mr. Sessions said.

    As long as people keep believing crapola like this we will never move forward as a society. The only way to keep someone who shouldn’t have a gun is to keep them locked up. Period.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      And we need new rules in both the House and the Senate that a Representative or Senator that proposes legislation to subvert any part of the Bill of Rights, but especially the Second Amendment, other than a bona fide Article V proposition for an amendment to the Constitution, should face an immediate ethics inquiry.

      They took an oath to DEFEND the Constitution, not subvert its plain text.

      1. avatar Gman says:

        And ^this is why we need a thumbs up Robert.

  5. avatar neiowa says:

    Surprise. I predicted at the time would learn the AirFarce had not been reporting any of their scumbags. Even after taking all steps possible to not eliminating those pesky felony charges/convictions.

  6. avatar former water walker says:

    Gee fracturing your stepson’s skull should have brought that demon 10-20 years in prison. Not a free pass to mass murder. Helluva’ job Air Force…😡😡😡😡😡

  7. avatar Ragnarredbeard says:

    The irony here is that this is the same Air Force that issues you a flashlight, makes you sign for it, and then requires it to be turned in when you PCS. Apparently they care more about the flashlight than about registering felonies.

  8. avatar GS650G says:

    Big whoops for them, loss of rights down the road for the rest of us

  9. avatar John L says:

    The PROBLEM, boy and gurls, is that the Texas church shooter WAS NOT convicted of domestic violence. THEREFORE, technically, he WAS NOT required to be reported to NICS as a domestic violence convict.
    The UCMJ does NOT have a crime of domestic violence as an offence. The Texas church shooter was convicted of ASSAULT. Two counts, against his wife and child. A TECHNICAL difference that the military uses to LEGALLY avoid having to report a military member to NICS.
    You want military members reported to NICS for assault of their spouses and children, there has to be CONGRESSIONAL action to change the UCMJ laws to INCLUDE a charge of domestic violence that is separate from a charge of assault.

    1. avatar TX_Lawyer says:

      Correct. The offense must have, “as an element, the use or attempted use of physical force, or the threatened use of a deadly weapon, committed by a current or former spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the victim as a spouse, parent, or guardian, or by a person similarly situated to a spouse, parent, or guardian of the victim.” 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(33). Now there could be some tortured reading that “as an element” is only referring to “the use or attempted use of physical force, or the threatened use of a deadly weapon,” but like I said, that would be a tortured reading. Also, having just read that, there are probably a lot of people on the prohibited list convicted of threatening the use of force without a deadly weapon, which would not make them a prohibited person.

      If someone commits a misdemeanor assault involving domestic violence, but only gets convicted of regular misdemeanor assault, then that person is not a prohibited person.

      But wasn’t he convicted of a crime that was punishable by more than a year?

  10. avatar Ralph says:

    “The error in the (Devin) Kelley case was not an isolated incident”

    That’s because there was no “error.” It’s the Air Farce’s policy not to report. It’s also the Army’s policy, which is why Jared Lee Loughner was able to buy his murder weapon legitimately.

  11. avatar Kendahl says:

    A bureaucrat is a bureaucrat is a bureaucrat. His preferred solution to a problem is to ignore it in the hope that it will go away by itself or the person adversely affected will stop complaining. Second choice is to push to problem out of his jurisdiction so that he can deny that it’s his responsibility. Public school systems do this in cases of chronic bullying. So do colleges (e.g. Jared Loughner and James Holmes). It appears the air force does, too.

  12. avatar the phantom says:

    most of these “mass shootings” are out-and-out hoaxes…..
    but….that said…. a vet’ should have an automatic right to purchase a fire-arm…..no NICS required!

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