Diane Feinstein misappropriating a TTAG photo to push her ban on bump fire stocks

It’s all they know . . . Another gun law? Just one more for madmen to ignore

He made semi-automatics function like an automatic weapon by one of the methods — some legal, some not — depicted in YouTube videos. Do we really think we can stop the spread of knowledge — socially beneficial or not — in the information age?

OK, so we’ll make the “bump stock” he used illegal. But murder already is illegal — and he ignored that law at least 58 times. Does anyone really think he would have been stopped by one more statute?

Or does anyone seriously think we’re going to outlaw semi-automatic rifles – immensely popular for sport shooting, hunting and home defense, not to mention among militia groups – just to prevent their use or conversion in mass killings?

Slidfire's logo, maker of the bump fire stocks Diane Feinstein would like to ban.

Meanwhile . . . Bump Stocks Are Flying Off The Shelves Before Possibly Getting Banned

Bump stocks are flying off the shelves online after Democrats immediately called for gun control legislation after the horrific Las Vegas Shooting Sunday.

Designed to enable a semi-automatic weapon to fire like a fully automatic weapon, bump stocks are usually available for purchase on the Internet but Walmart and Cabela’s— two of the nation’s largest gun sellers — appear to have discontinued bump stock sales early Wednesday. The website’s that have continued to sell them, are selling out of bump stocks or have already sold out, according to a report by The Trace.

Massachusetts state rep introduces bill to ban the "bump stock loophole"

And on the state level . . . Rep files bill plugging ‘bump stock’ loophole in Mass. laws

The device that may have been used by the Las Vegas shooter to turn a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic weapon capable of firing hundreds of rounds per minute remains legal to obtain in Massachusetts, and should be banned, according to one state lawmaker.

Rep. David Linsky, a Natick Democrat who played a role in crafting the state’s 2014 gun violence prevention bill, filed legislation on Wednesday that would ban what are known as bump stocks in Massachusetts.

Ed Graybeal was caught with unregistered machine guns

Hmmm . . . . TN man caught at traffic stop with automatic weapons, 900 rounds

Federal agents are trying to determine why a man pulled over for speeding in Washington County, Tennessee was carrying a cache of weapons including two submachine guns and 900 rounds of ammunition. …

Investigators found a loaded .357 magnum, a loaded .45 semi-auto, a full auto AR rifle in .223 caliber, a fully automatic AR rifle in .308 caliber, over 900 rounds of ammunition, and survival equipment.

Sheriff Graybeal said neither of the fully automatic rifles had serial numbers nor were they registered.

As officers were trying to book Edmisten at the detention center, he reportedly made threats toward the arresting officer and other staff members. Graybeal said Edmisten lunged toward investigators who were trying to interview him.

Politico says mass shootings aren't more frequent, only more deadly

Despite what the media and anti-gun groups preach . . . Mass Shootings Are Getting Deadlier, Not More Frequent

There is, by now, a familiar script to it all: A mass public shooting, followed by waves of grief and outrage, then calls for gun control on the one hand and harrumphing about politicizing tragedies on the other. The news stories and statements by political leaders write themselves, with only the location, name of the shooter and number of casualties changing. It all seems so routine.

But this perception isn’t because of some unprecedented rise in the rate of mass public shootings—far from it. They’re roughly as common now as they were in the 1980s and ’90s. And the data offer a stark finding: Over the past decade, mass public shootings haven’t become particularly more prevalent, they’ve simply become deadlier.

New Gingrich says it's common sense to ban bump fire stocks.

Another crack in the wall . . . Newt Gingrich: It is ‘common sense’ for Congress to ban rapid-fire gun modification devices

Newt Gingrich said Wednesday that it would be “common sense” for Congress to consider gun control legislation that makes rapid-fire gun modifications illegal, allowing laws to “catch up” with technology.

“Look, if there is something that makes it easy to convert a semi-automatic into an automatic, then maybe that does have to be looked at and put under the Federal Firearms Act, which makes it illegal to have a genuinely automatic weapon,” Gingrich told Fox News. “I think this is as technology changes, sometimes we have to change the rules to catch up with those technologies.”

53 Responses to Vedder Holsters Daily Digest: Banning the Bump, Selling Like Hotcakes and a Crack in the Wall

  1. The best way to knock some sense into the NRA is to ask the shops that ask you to donate to the NRA to stop. Even if they don’t stop it, you can be sure than after multiple customers ask them to for a single, identifyable reason the NRA WILL know about it. This is how Gawker was crippled before Hogan came around: People pissed about their running content like “bring back bullying” called their advertisers and ads were yanked very quickly causing Gawker to lose a, in their own words, “seven figure sum”.

    • Just read their statement & I totally agree. They’re throwing bump-fire stocks & those companies under the bus to appease those calling for more gun control. They surely know by now that these people are never satiated of their desire to disarm & control. I used to be of the “let’s compromise” opinion, but not anymore. Give them an inch & they’ll take a mile. It might not happen all at once, but it will surely happen if we allow it.

      • James Allen Wyatt, Jr., Mississippi State University Class of 1961
        IN TODAY’S DANGEROUS TIME “BEING PREPARED” IS NOT JUST FOR THE BOY SCOUTS!
        A responsible citizen who has any reasonable degree of intelligence realizes that it is he or she and not the government that is responsibility for their safety as well as that of their family members.

        The First Rule of the responsibility of BEING PREPARED is Being constantly aware of one’s surroundings. An acquaintance, Col. Jeff Cooper, owner and operator of his Gunsight Firearms Training facility proposed a “code of conduct” regarding that necessity; his a color code as follows:

        WHITE designates one’s total lack of awareness, this best illustrated by folks whose total focus is on their cell phones, either talking, texting, listening to music, etc, their total state of mind distraction totally and this is witnesses daily by any who are observant. This their totally distracted mindset presents a fertile opportunity for all who are seeking to do ‘criminal mischief, i.e. mugging, purse snatching, kidnapping, or any form or degree of doing harm.

        YELLOW designates one who is alert, one who is always seeking to be constantly observant of what is going on around him or her in their surrounding immediate environment.

        ORANGE designates one’s degree of alertness and the awareness of the potential of a problem situation that could well pose a threat to one’s well-being or that of a member of one’s family who is present and thus afforded is opportunity to judge the potential difficulty or danger that might well develop and present the opportunity to consider what might be done to avoid the apparent potential problems.

        RED designates the state of alertness that causes one to readily recognize a “REAL AND PRESENT DANGER’ thus affording the opportunity to further consider and formulate tactics that would best address the threat be that avoidance giving no regard to ’saving face’ or, if absolutely necessary, meeting the threat head on exerting only the minimum amount of force required to quell the threat.
        This action might involve especially for women any means that would produce a loud sound such as a shrill whistle, a loud high pitched mechanical noise maker on her keychain in addition to pepper spray, etc.
        The foregoing is mentioned as an interim defensive action with the last option the utilizing of a sidearm worn concealed on the person (!and certainly not in the purse or handbag or other means other than worn concealed on the person!)

        When confronted with a dangerous life treating situation requiring that ones concealed worn handgun has to be brought into play, it is mandatory that one be prepared in a number of ways as well as have a prepared mindset that will result in proper mandatory addressing the eventualities of a defensive shooting.

        Although the 2nd Amendment of Our Bill of Rights should always be a sufficient legal basis for all citizens to be always be armed, the reality is that government and lawyer-politicians by their very nature are forever seeking to legislate laws that cripple on every hand the rights of this nation’s citizens, they much like a youngster with a new hammer to who everything looks like a nail that they just have to hammer.

        Therefore it is prudent to secure a “concealed carry permit” or whatever you state calls it and thus, as with everything else, pay the government for a right that you already are due.
        Here in the town in Tennessee where we have resided since 1974, the Bradley County Sheriff’s Department has conducted ‘concealed carry qualifications’ classes and their change to each who attend is, the last time I checked, was only $5 this to cover the ‘paperwork” and the targets; a local outdoor gun club’s shooting range freely providing their range facilities. Upon successful completion of the two-day course which involves classroom as well as qualifying on the range firing 50 rounds of ammunition. This involves two days; Friday and Saturday and thus involve taking off a day or two from work for most.

        The state of Tennessee, however, levies their charge which is less than $200 the last I checked.

        An alternative to securing a permit from the state is the securing of an out of state handgun carry permit over the internet this available out of state permit available from Virginia and the cost is, as I recall, $50 and what is involved is the completion of a questionnaire available from the Out of State Virginia Handgun Carry site.

        https://americanconcealedonline.com/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=virginia%20reciprocity&utm_campaign=CCW_ACO_Permit-Honored+State_Search&utm_content=National&c=9344&s1=ag_1187472890731614&s5=&clck=124829357

        After securing your government required handgun carry permit, it is only prudent and those with any degree of intelligence, one should immediately secure INSURANCE THAT WILL BE A LIFESAVER IN THE EVENT, GOD FORBID, THAT YOU FIND YOUR SELF INVOLVED IN A DEFENSE SHOOTING.

        The National Rifle Association of America as well as another association the name of which I can not immediately recall from memory offers such INSURANCE coverage.

        My son and I are members of the UNITED STATES CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION and we bought INSURANCE COVERAGE through USCCA, securing insurance having the MAXIMUM LEVEL OF COVERAGE PROTECTION AVAILABLE.

        REGARDING A POST-INCIDENT SHOOTING, the prudent instructions recommenced to be followed are as follows:

        EXPLAIN: “The person tried to kill me”
        COMPLAINT: “I’m willing a complaint.”
        EVIDENCE: “There is his/her weapon”
        WITNESSES: “Those people saw the attack.”
        SILENCE – MANDATORY:
        “Officer, I will cooperate 1000%, but first I need to speak with my attorney.”

        Regarding this latter action, we who are USCCA members immediately must contact
        USCCA CRITICAL RESPONSE TEAM AT 877-677-1919
        and ONLY IN PRIVATE Advise briefly of the situation and circumstances.

        Our understanding is that my area defense law firm associated with
        USCCA in my area (S.E. Tennessee) will be alerted and will immediately be in contact with me.

        UNITED STATES CONCEALED CARRY ASSOCIATION
        http://WWW.USCCA.COM
        DELTA DEFENSE, LLC /USCCA
        300 S. 6TH ST.
        WEST BEND, WI 53095
        BASED ON OVER 70 YEARS OF SHOOTING, OUR FIRST CENTERFIRE HANDGUN AT AGE 14 YEARS, An M1911 .45acp that came through WWII, the lessons learned which included working in 8 or 9 STAUNCH ANTI-GUN STATES, was ALWAYS GO ARMED. AWAY WEARING TOTALLY CONCEALED, utilizing THE READILY AVAILABLE QUALITY INSIDE THE WAISTBAND KYDEX HOLSTER, ALWAYS HAVING ONE OR TWO SPARE FULLY LOADED MAGANIZES AS WELL AS A ‘FIRST RESPONDER’ TYPE KNIFE READILY AT HAND, AND ALWAYS BE EVER ALERT “OPERATING WITH A “YELLOW AWARENESS MINDSET” AND LASTLY ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS SEEK ALWAYS TO BE A ‘GREY MAN OR WOMAN’ ALWAYS “BLENDING IN” RATHER THAN ‘STANDING OUT’, never, never, never ATTRACTINC ATTENTION!!!
        James Allwn Wyatt, Jr., Miss. State Univ. Class of 1961!

        BE EVERY ALWAYS AWARE OF YOUR “SURROUNDINGS” NEVER ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE DISTRACTED BY ANY AND ALL distractions!!! TRIVIAL PURSUITS/DISTRACTIONS WILL GET YOU INJURED OR KILLED!!!!!!!

    • Meet the new boss… same as the old boss… me thinks the taste of Federal Power has enamoured TrumpBama, and the majority of the GOP is simply just as anti gun as the democrats, only in secret. I’m seriously starting to wonder if the “we dodged a bullet” this election is becoming more of a “dodged a bullet by stepping on a landmine.” Granted if Hillary won the confiscations and subsequent civil war would’ve already occured. But it’s looking like that possibility hasn’t escaped us. After the bump fire st

      • Our choice this election was akin to die of either a heart attack or cancer.

        Guess which one we chose.

        Trump would sell each and every one of us down the river for a nickel in his pocket. I really hope that all of the Trump supporters are starting to realize that his run for office had absolutely nothing to do with him wanting to do anything for the country and everything to do with putting more money in his pockets.

        Both of them (and their families) absolutely disgust me, we could have done so much better.

    • Meet the new boss… same as the old boss… me thinks the taste of Federal Power has enamoured TrumpBama, and the majority of the GOP is simply just as anti gun as the democrats, only in secret. I’m seriously starting to wonder if the “we dodged a bullet” this election is becoming more of a “dodged a bullet by stepping on a landmine.” Granted if Hillary won the confiscations and subsequent civil war would’ve already occured. But it’s looking like that possibility hasn’t escaped us. When you have the GOP openly talking of gun control, that’s a big, bad thing. They know how much their base hates ANY gun control. “Well bumpfire stocks serve no real pourpose… well 30 round mags serve no real poirpose..” After the bump fire stocks are banned, when they come for drum mags, then 30 round mags… things are getting pretty scary.

  2. BASIC DICTATORSHIP 101 REV. – James A Wyatt, Jr., Kosciusko, MS H.S. Class of 1956; Mississippi State Univ. Class of 1951
    GUIDES FOR DEMONCRAT/LIBERALS/SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/SATANIC DISCIPLES:
    1)THE major first step is the Gaining control by whatever means available of ALL means of communication, i.e. the news media and every other means of private and public communication;

    2) That while also taking promptly total control in/of all areas of banking, finance, commerce, etc.; (See #5, below, please)

    3) While also seeking to totally DIVIDE AND CONQUER this a very basic Rule for success in establishing control in an adversarial endeavor be it in War on the BATTLEFIELD or in the ‘POLITICAL WARFARE TRENCHES’ in the TARGETING OF THE NATION’S ENTIRE/TOTAL POPULATION . . . and anyone that is ‘awake’ is seeing that accomplished daily; this ‘tool’ being applied exponentially by government in general and now in particular in our United States of America today: citizen against citizen, neighbor against neighbor, that by courts and the government at both the national, state, county, city and town level; this tool so candidly stated by an appointee of the Alien Occupier: “Crisis offers Opportunity” and thus the fermenting of civil commotion in every available area is being utilized as simply yet another of the satanic tools being put in play**.

    4) But most certainly of greatest importance is implementing by every means available the Totally disarming of the general population as Hitler’s National Socialist did especially targeting the Jews; Marks & Stalin’s Communist and as sought by the UN and those of the National Socialist/Communist/liberals; especially those currently in power in our nation’s government; their sole purpose is to facilitate the allowing only the ‘government’ to be armed thus establishing total dependence on the government by those of the population who are ‘law abiding’ out of fear or for whatever reason, while seeking to convey what is actually a totally false sense of safety and well-being.

    5. And always find someone else to blame for any and all problems, etc, and THEN take every means necessary to vilify and then purge/slaughter THEM ONE AND ALL.

    AND, WE MUST NOT FORGET . . .

    6, Total destruction of the target nation’s economy is MANDATORY hence . . . DESTRUCTION FINANCE 101 THE DIVERSION —
    Remember the old shell game where the huckster had three walnut shells and one pea and you were enticed to concentrate on his hand movements of the walnut shells so that you could point out the location of the pea; this while his pickpocket cohorts were working the spectators? Well friends you have been had yet again

    Note:
    This course of action/instruction approved by Hussein, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hun Sen, Kim Jong-II, Chairman Mao, Chavez, Castro, Mussolini, as well as all others of similar ilk including the Illegal Alien Occupant of our White House! – James A Wyatt Jr – Son of The Gunsmith, J.A.’R
    ed”Wyatt 1902-1964, WYATT CUSTOM RIFLES

    James A Wyatt Jr – Son of The Gunsmith, J.A.’Red”Wyatt 1902-1964, WYATT CUSTOM RIFLES
    Kosciusko, MS H.S. Class of 1956; Mississippi State Univ. Class of 1961
    All Hours On Site Target Risk Investigations – 8 States – 1962-1997
    IN JEHOVAH GOD WE TRUST;
    all else is highly suspect.

    TRUTH AND REALITY IN PRESENT DAY AMERICA;
    OUR ONCE GREAT NATION THAT WE, ON OUR WATCH, ALLOWED TO BE TAKEN OVER BY ROGUE CAREER POLITICIANS, THESE INCLUDING PERVERTED DEMONCRATS, MUSLIMS, COMMUNIST, GANGS OF THUGS, CHICAGO SPAWNED GANGSTERS, ROGUE POLITICIANS, PAGAN LAWYERS, HEATHENS; ONE AND ALL SATAN’S TOTALLY DEDICATED DISCIPLES.

    IF THE VOTES IN THE LAST TO PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ARE ANY INDICATION, THEY OBVIOUSLY A HARBINGER OF DOOM TO THIS ONCE GREAT REPUBLIC, THE UPCOMING VOTE, AS EXPECTED, HELLERY , BERNIE OR ANOTHER DEMONCRAT WILL BE THE PRESENT DAY CURSE . . . EXTENDED.
    James A Wyatt Jr
    IN JEHOVAH GOD WE TRUST;
    all else is suspect.

    • If the left thinks the NRA is a powerful lobby, it’s only because big pharma is so much more powerful that they’re afraid to even broach the subject. And all of capitol hill is beholden to them. They’ll go after the NRA and gun rights because they’re small fish compared to pharmaceuticals. SSRIs may well be the problem, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before congress even pretends to give lip service about thinking about looking into it.

      • Nothing government could do about it, even if they would. You have heard of the failed “war on drugs,” have you not? You want more of the same? Bad as some drugs actually ARE, the government, the pharma company nor anyone else forced this murderer (or any others) to take the drug or do anything else he did. And no amount of rhetoric can make it so.

        Each individual has a choice. They can open their mouth and take the drug (whatever it is)… or decide not to take it. Each individual must take personal responsibility for their OWN actions and choices… living with the consequences and not attempting to blame someone else or make them pay the cost.

        That’s the only actual “control” there will ever be. Self control… and, of course, self defense if some won’t bother. No government, or “laws,” can ever do it for us.

  3. Who would have imagined that bump fires sales would go up. CBS did Slide fire a good commercial, . I put a bump fire on my firearm and am still only getting 15 rounds a minute? ( 410 single shot). …..

    • THE CLINTONS AND THE OBAMAS WERE DEEMED TO BE THE BEST FIREARMS SALESMAN OF THE DAY AND THESE DEMONIC DEMONCRATS ARE SIMPLY FOLLOWING IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS.

      THEY ARE DOING JUST WHAT THEY DO BEST: SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT!!!

  4. He graduated HS in 1956 and Miss State in1 951.
    My math is faulty, bit that must be a Mississippi thing. So I spotted an inaccuracy in the first two lines of your post.

    Commie F-ing pig that he was.

  5. So the guy in TN, which is it? Was he caught with two submachine guns which would be automatic weapons firing pistol rounds or two (presumably) automatic rifles chambered in 5.56 and 7.62?

  6. Allowing laws to catch up with technology? The technology is there specifically because of ridiculous laws already in place. Pass another law, and we’ll just find another legal way around it.

    Meanwhile, the real bad guys just convert their guns to full auto illegally, but let’s go after the slide-fire stocks :rolls eyes:

  7. Banning bump stocks in MA is a hilarious proposition, because apparently we’re not supposed to have evil, baby-killing, climate-changing, scary black rifles to begin with. So it’s really just an admission of defeat that they’d try to ban accessories in hopes that maybe we wont just buy our stuff from NH anyway.

    • I did, he was my Congressman. Sadly, he has spent too many years in close proximity to DC and it is clearly starting to cause liberal contact disease. The only known fix is to move back to fly over country!

    • Same guy in MA that is proposing the bump stock ban is proposing confiscation of all magazines oer 10rd….. no more grandfathered mags…

    • Yup, hi cap mags are next, then semi autos. I will repeat myself and say ” that bump fire using murderer has opened up a can of worms that has lain dormant since 1994″… The government l.e.o. I referred to in another post, is HRT, he explained to me how vulnerable we 2a patriots are at this time. This is serious stuff people, it’s more then bump fire, hi cap bans and little laws

      • Don’t give them a single index finger! Give them one, they’ll take them all! And once they have all your fingers they’ll come after your toes! They won’t stop until they have all your digits!

        (I’m only being semi-facetious.)

    • Are they going to ban Rubber Bands??? The original bump fire was a rubber band wrapped around the pistol grip and trigger finger. Check it out in search or youtub. in search put in “bump fire with rubber band”
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  8. One thing it seems everyone skips on with the bump fire stocks is the Mandalay Bay mass murder is THE FIRST TIME a bump fire stock has been used in a crime. They’ve been on the market for how long, and this is the first use of one in a crime?

    • I can’t understand the stupidity of focusing on the bumpfires. He had bumpfires and optics on the same rifles. These people are used to seeing optics or scopes on guns so they went right past them and zeroed in on the bumpfires. Imagine putting a device on a rifle that allows you to target someone right between the eyes at a distance from which your vision could not otherwise distinguish their head. You could make every shot count and not waste a single bullet in your clipazine.

  9. NRA is trying, and failing, to backtrack entirely missing the point of why people are angry. LaPierre is trying to say “We said regulate instead of ban so we’re still OK guys… guys? Please don’t cut off our money.” Pathetic.

  10. Someone needs to explain to these people: a bump-fire stock does not turn a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic rifle. A bump-fire stock only assist in firing the semi-automatic rifle faster. The operator must still pull the trigger each individual time to fire each individual round.

    • Non-gun people simply see that as a distinction with no difference. I don’t know if it’s even possible to change people’s minds about it.

  11. Only “old fat rich white men will own a machine gun”. They always have. The poor mans machine gun, the slide fire will be
    banned.
    The Hughes Amendment is here to stay.
    The 1934 gun control act is here to stay.

    Remember it was a rich white man who committed the massacre. And rich white men will still have MG’s.

    What else will the “gun community give up???
    I’m so glad I moved out of California.

    • What’s funny is that if this guy had really been planning this for a long time, he could have used his money to acquire a dealer license, purchased some legal machine guns for resale, and then used those. Why, he could have even acquired some evil silencers!

  12. What the fuck is a federal firearms act, and how does it make machine guns illegal? Fake conservatives are coming out of the woodwork…

  13. Trade bumpfire stocks for suppressors.

    This is an awesome way to trick the Democrats into giving us something completely useful for something nobody should really give a shit about.

  14. I will have to admit one thing about the Democrats. They are pretty well united and bond together. If the Republican party did not have so many spineless RINOs , all this BS wouldn’t be going on.
    It is the same in a workplace. The employer keeps everyone divided so they won’t unite. This is the same scenario. We know that they do not care about mass shooting victims , they couldn’t care less. They have their own agendas to attend to.

  15. We have yet to see an actual bill related to bumpfire stocks. If as usual the anti-gun legislators will see this as an opportunity to pile on a bunch of other items they desire that will make the bill so onerous that it can’t be passed. Also it could be so vague that any change to the manufacturer’s trigger is considered a “modification” that increases the rate of fire. Like others have said they may also go after standard capacity magazines, limitations on purchases. This is a target rich environment for them that may just take down any change at all. I’m sure we shall see in the near future, though I am also unhappy with NRA position on this.

    • Bump socks don’t suffer from the operator getting the action out of sequence (requiring another pull on the charging handle) by pulling the trigger too fast.

  16. Well personally I’m not even keen on bump fire stocks. Stick with Binary Triggers, they’re more reliable and controllable.

    But of course, this just like any gun control argument against them is just blatant hoplophobia by the same people that DEMAND we all say ‘Not All Muslims’ every time a nut job pops off, but when a just normy nut job picks up a gun we have to ban them all.

  17. MORE “POD” PEOPLE, Newt’s hone over to the dark side. It’s not just his opinion, he’s dog-whistling for the POS (D) hounds by using the secret handshake term of the tyrannical “common sense”.

    FU NEWT – when they come for you, we’ll be busy checking our weapons and gear.

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