s1 Pepper Spray Gun: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

“The s1 Pepper Spray Gun was designed to offer the trusted, non-lethal protection of pepper spray and tear gas AND the long-range protection of a traditional firearm,” saltsupply.com‘s website proclaims (demo video below), “but without the drawbacks of either.” I guess the company considers the need to shoot a firearm accurately a drawback . . .

“Accuracy not required – even an imperfect shot will trigger the defense cloud – and create a barrier between you and harm’s way.” That would be a “5’ toxic defense cloud that can cause temporary blindness and difficulty breathing.” Can cause? Hmmm.

Speaking of distance, let’s go the tape [measure]!

Wow! A pepper spray gun that can hit a target 180 feet/60 yards away! I’m not quite sure why your average citizen would need that kind of range, or what the bullet drop curve would look like (I’m imagining a rainbow), or how much of the bullet’s “force of a 50mph fastball” would be sustained over that distance, but  . . .

The s1 sure is BIG! Even for a dedicated home carry booster like myself, schlepping this massive weapon around the house seems a bit problematic. Still, better this than nothing, right? Yours for just $349.99! Only five left in stock!

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  1. avatar DaveL says:

    It’s kind of cute how they show “long guns” range topping out at 60 yards.

  2. avatar AFGus says:

    You’re damn sure not going to “conceal carry” that thing around……unless it’s winter time and you’re wearing a Parka!

  3. avatar Ralph says:

    That looks like something that Ron Popeil might sell. And it’s fun for the whole family!

    1. avatar jwm says:

      Give it to the 3yo and watch the hilarity ensue.

    2. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “That looks like something that Ron Popeil might sell.”

      That or the departed Billy Mays…

    3. avatar kenneth says:

      NOW how much would you pay? But wait…..
      🙂

  4. avatar dph says:

    50 mph fastball? More like a little league change up.

  5. avatar Vhyrus says:

    Google Tippmann TiPX. It’s a rebranded paintball gun, the kind 12 year olds shoot each other with for fun. Nothing else. They’re selling a $200 paintball gun for $350 to marks. These assholes need to be tarred and feathered.

    Oh, and you’re not getting 60 yards out of that thing, ever. 60 feet, maybe.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      I wonder if the ‘defense cloud’ is just paintballs rupturing in the tube, lol

    2. avatar samuraichatter says:

      I was about to state the same thing.

      You could get a marker for under a hundred that would do the same or better. For 350.00 you could get a nice agitating hopper fed marker that could deliver a volume of fire with much greater velocity. You could also get these:

      http://bullsbreakerballs.com/shop/oringinal-bulls-breaker-balls/bulls-breaker-balls/

      Or get tear gas AND pepper spray at the same time (with much greater volume) with this:

      http://www.officerstore.com/store/product.aspx/productId/19548/Sabre-MK-9-SABRE-Advanced-Level-III-Formula-Stream-Fogger-OC-and-Tear-Gas

      Also, what nobody has mentioned (and I went to their site) anywhere it seems is that C02 cartridge powered anything is adversely affected by low temperatures . . . and greatly so. This thing would barely shoot anytime/anywhere the temp got below freezing.

    3. avatar Ian Wolfe says:

      The markup on the marker is bad, but the REAL insanity is the cost of the balls. Those things cost $5. Each. This thing literally costs $5 a round to shoot. And the ammo has to be regularly replaced. They claim a five year shelf life, but considering normal paintballs are only good for around a month before the shells degrade and harden, I am… skeptical.

      1. avatar barnbwt says:

        I think hardened balls would be a bonus in this case, however (that said, why not upgrade to marbles?)

        1. avatar samuraichatter says:

          One of the links is for marbles covered in rubber. Ian is right that the mark up on the ammo is very high. However, specialty paint ball ammo is normally pretty high (not this high though).

    4. avatar Brick says:

      Maybe if you lean back and try to mortar it

  6. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    Kinda looks like a funky Star Wars Blaster….Unfortunately, it lacks that kind of Sci fi power….

    1. avatar bLoving says:

      Yeah, I was about to say…
      Wasn’t one of the Rebels using one of these in that last flick? There’s a kind of tradition of using real guns(?) for props in the Star Wars universe: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Original_Trilogy

    2. avatar G says:

      I find your lack of faith disturbing

  7. avatar former water walker says:

    Gee I carried Pepper Blaster for years. Shot at 112mph gel. It expired.This is silly. Now I got a SabreRed pepper gel thingy for 15bucks. Rubes born every minute…

  8. avatar barnbwt says:

    You know what this idea needs? An intuitive progressive trigger (not that kind) which dispenses more aggressive justice the harder it is pulled. I mean, if you’re just subduing someone & thinking deliberately, a gentle pull will unleash a stream of pepper spray in a pressurized alcohol/light solvent solution to ensure it has plenty of range. But what if that doesn’t do it, or the perp tries to run? Well, that’s when the Tazer component comes into play, when pulled for more than two seconds a pair of prongs will fly out and zap the guy with 25000Volts of pain and arc-light. Now, if a combination of pepper spray, electric torture, and mild immolation aren’t enough to end the threat, or if a panicked strong pull on the trigger is made, the firing pin can release when a 20lb trigger pull is applied and blast the fool with all weapons simultaneously, Talk about the best of all worlds, with absolutely no drawbacks whatsoever. Nope, none.

  9. avatar barnbwt says:

    $450? Damn, the rent on a Hi Point’s sure gone up! Anyone else find it hilarious that their self-aggrandizing diagram mostly shows how laughably ineffective non-lethal is for anything but “guy on top of you” scenarios, even inside the rather short (if reasonably plausible from an urban self-defense standpoint) 150ft range, which conveniently is diagrammed no further than the Salt’s max range (I know it’s labeled “+150ft”, but c’mon guys, at least draw the firearms’ lines going slightly further than your stupid product)

    I also love the notion of a “Toxic Defense Cloud” (TM) being released at what is clearly marketed as a primarly-contact-range weapon. As if the overspray & wipeoff of traditional mace & pepperspray aren’t bad enough for the guy trying to fight off a one-armed clown hopped up on PCP, or a Floridian on bath salts (not that sensory irritants have much/any effect on such chemically motivated individuals anyway). Yeah, if I want to engage a guy at 150ft –the supposed benefit of this device vs. other chemical throwers– I want a noxious cloud blasted right in front of my face, regardless. Brilliant.

  10. avatar jwm says:

    toxic defense cloud? Pull my finger. I’ll give you a toxic defense cloud to be proud of.

  11. avatar HandyDan says:

    I can just imagine some idiot shooting this into the wind, a la the Berkley Riots.

  12. avatar TyrannyOfEvilMen says:

    Oh… This is like 37 different kinds of stupid.

  13. avatar Hannibal says:

    I’m having trouble coming up with a situation where this item and its claimed range would be both necessary and sufficient.

    If I’m needing to engage someone at that kind of range I need more than a chemical irritant.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Might be fun to lob a few into crowd of demonstrators!? But has to be cheaper than $5 a pop.

  14. avatar jt says:

    So it’s pepperballs? Like Shomertec used to sell around 1990.

    Yawn.

  15. avatar G says:

    My biggest concern about a pepper spray gun is what happens when you shoot it at someone whose right on top of you, or only a few feet away? Does the pepper spray cloud blind you too? I imagine there would be enough back spray to hurt the person using just as much as the person they shot. Am i wrong on that assumption? On that basis i cant see how this would be in any way practical.

  16. avatar IdahoBoy says:

    So what’s to stop people from shooting real bullets at somebody who brandishes the black version? It looks real enough (albeit somewhat large) that somebody might claim they were justified in opposing deadly force with deadly force.

    Never bring a toy gun to a real gunfight.

  17. avatar bobo says:

    its a paint ball marker that should cost 75$ at BEST!!!!

    here is the list of WRONG things with this from someone who played the paintball game for years

    5$ busk a shot that is nuts!
    5 year storage—no effing way! Even the best paint on the market in a few months the shell gets harder as it drys out and the gun will blow the ball to bits as it lost its elastically with that hardness!
    Then add in 5 years–balls settle inside the shell and your accuracy goes WAY down…I actually have seen balls that are old, LOOP around the tree they were aimed at!
    150 ft range???? who are you kidding! maybe a perfectly LOBBED shot, but not direct fire! and aim that far?? These are simple muskets not rifles….even thou you can get a rifled barrel for a paintball marker at one time, but that barrel costs over 100$ by itself!

    save your money..grow a pair and buy a real gun!

  18. avatar Andy says:

    Costs more than a Shield, but less effective. Hmm.

  19. avatar bobby b says:

    “grow a pair and buy a real gun!”

    Oh, gosh, no.

    These anti-gunners who are so afraid of real guns and who have never shot one and who have no desire or willingness to be near a gun should never buy a gun.

    They’re the ones who will give gun owners a bad name. They’re the ones who will never pull the trigger and lose the gun to the bad guy and get shot, boosting the “shot by their own gun” stats.

    They’re the ones who, in a fit of panic (mostly induced by holding an evil gun in their hands) will blast their teenager who comes home late.

    They’re the ones who will shoot through walls and get their neighbors, who will close their eyes when they shoot, who will shoot themselves in the leg as they creep through their house after hearing a noise with their finger on the trigger.

    Let them buy these things. It’s $350 less they have to donate to liberal candidates.

  20. avatar The Real Chris says:

    Heaven forbid someone should have an option other than ventilating someone

    1. avatar DaveL says:

      Options are good, ridiculously overpriced options of dubious effectiveness, not so much. I suppose it would also be an option to distract your attacker with a cloud of banknotes thrown into the air in front of him.

  21. avatar Klause Von Schmitto says:

    Wouldn’t a super soaker filled with CaJohns Black Mamba 6 hot sauce be cheaper and more effective?

  22. avatar Wiregrass says:

    Given the typical range of most DGU’s, I’d be very concerned about getting caught up in that 5′ cloud of habanero juice myself.

  23. avatar J says:

    Little kids are gonna love finding these things in daddys drawers.

    Patiently awaiting the first lawsuit from the parents of 8 year old bobby who fired it in the house while playing cops and robbers and went blind…..”it looks like a toy, its an attractive nusciance”

    How would you carry it anyway? Its as big as a desert eagle or MAC 10.

  24. avatar Sian says:

    It’s a rebranded $200 Tipman TPX paintball sidearm, supplied with overpriced pepperballs.

  25. avatar Peter says:

    Paint it black and get peppered with lead by some cop. 😀

  26. avatar jwtaylor says:

    A 5 foot “toxic” cloud? 5 feet? So, two steps and the assailant is out of the toxic cloud, do I have that right? Two very angry steps?

  27. avatar Angry D says:

    I am the staunchest Second Amendment supporter you’re going to find, and I consider ALL gun legislation unconstitutional by definition, but if I am on the jury and you’re trying to explain why you shot someone 150 feet away from you “in self defense” you had best have a VERY compelling reason for it. (NOTE: Those reasons DO exist, but they are few and far between.)

  28. avatar Hank says:

    Are these the same guys who sell that salt powered insect shooter?

  29. avatar Vince says:

    The Salt MSRP is $349. It is actually a rebranded Tipmann TiPX which has an MSRP of $219. A fool and his/her money is soon parted. What annoys me is the people marketing Salt act like they invented the TiPX paintball gun which was released in 2009.

  30. avatar Arc says:

    I thought this was ridiculous at first but in hind sight, there may be situations were it proves useful as a non-lethal alternative. Largely for LEO use, tempo of the area and commanders discretion would dictate if it were carried or not. It could be fairly handy for breaking up fights of multiple people while keeping a safe distance, stopping a runner who might otherwise be grievously injured from complete loss of motor control via taser such as if they were climbing something. Also good for area of effect, if someone is hiding behind something…

    Its basically an option, and I don’t knock having options available, the more the better.

    I could see it being personally useful as a non-lethal critter deterrent.

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