Vedder Holsters Daily Digest: The Real ‘Progressive Liberal’, Naming Names in the House and It’s Time to Get Rid of Your Guns

Who says wresting is fake? . . .

Q&A: ‘Progressive Liberal’ Daniel Richards isn’t playing a character

Perhaps the gun story answers this, but what’s the most memorable reaction you’ve gotten from a fan?

As far as at an event, Beau and I were both in the ring and I told the crowd I was there to confiscate their guns. And they had a volunteer fire department there and one of the firefighters was packing. He had his pistol on his right hip and he’s rubbing his pistol and looking at me. We took it no further. I went on to something else. I didn’t take anyone’s guns away. That’s probably why I’m still here today.

Naming and shaming . . . Rep. Robin Kelly: For Every Dollar Paul Ryan Got From the NRA, I Am Naming a Gun Victim

It’s crystal clear that the massive amount of money being poured into these races by the NRA is preventing us from even having a conversation on lifesaving legislation. Likewise, it is crystal clear that these campaign contributions are blood money.

For some, it seems that the NRA’s money is more important than saving American lives. Every dollar they take can be directly linked to an American with a bullet hole. And I’m not going to let them forget that.

So, I’m going to stand on the floor of the People’s House and count every dollar they took while sharing the name and story of an American killed by gun violence.

Trenchant, nuanced analysis from The Nation . . . Gun Sales Are Plummeting and Trump Wants to Help

The gun industry’s family-friendly push is in serious tension with its deep current of hard-right paranoia and with the image projected by Trump, who once famously boasted during the presidential campaign that he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any votes. But buoyed by his NRA supporters, Trump can deliver something that no amount of marketing can: radical changes to American gun law.

The changes began almost as soon as he entered the White House. Trump started with the low-hanging fruit: The Department of Justice issued a memo changing how the FBI defines a “fugitive” for the purpose of placing someone on a no-buy list for federal gun-owner background checks. Until now, the FBI prohibited anyone with an open warrant from buying a gun, but the new DOJ memo defines “fugitive” only as someone who has fled the state where the warrant was issued—so a lot more people with open warrants will be getting their gun purchases approved. Prior to this, from 1998 to 2017, the FBI denied over 175,000 gun sales because of an open warrant.

Dana Loesch’s video seems to have struck a chord . . . The NRA declares war on America: ‘the only way we save our country … is with the clenched fist’

In less than a minute, The NRA paints an America irrevocably divided between “we” and “they.” An America where the media has fallen into their hands. Where the schools are instruments of their lies. Where every action is designed to threaten “the law abiding.” Where the only way “to save our country” is strike back with a “clenched fist.”

How many of those Republican Congressmen who were calling for a reduction in rhetoric following the ballfield shooting, will step forward to condemn this video that uses that incident to call for civil war on Americans?

Pro tip: robbing a gun store during business hours may result in the creation of additional, unexpected orifices . . . Thief takes best shot with pepper spray, but Brooklyn gun shop clerk gets the last blast

The thief, dressed like a construction worker, entered DF Brothers Sports Center on New Utrecht Ave. near 79th St. in Bensonhurst — one of the last remaining firearms dealers in the city — at about 10:45 a.m. and told 60-year-old owner Frank Taormina he wanted to “see the guns,” police sources said.

When Taormina asked to see the man’s gun permit, the suspect blasted him in the face with the noxious substance, cops said.

He then pulled out a sledgehammer and shattered a display case.

The thief had just grabbed two pistols when Taormina grabbed his own weapon and fired off two rounds, hitting the crook at least once, police sources said.

Even assuming this is accurate, this means…what? . . . A dangerous mix: Bullied youth report access to loaded guns more than other youth

Our recent study examined if youth who have been bullied are also more likely to report having access to a loaded gun without adult permission. Participants included students ages 12-18, who responded to the 2011 and 2013 School Crime Supplement (SCS) to the National Crime Victimization Survey. The SCS asks students about their experiences during the current school year related to bullying, school security, exposure and access to weapons and illicit substances, and presence of gangs at school.

Of the 10,704 students included in this study, about 4 percent (446 students) said they could get access to a loaded gun without adult permission. This number is startlingly high, and should be of great concern given the frequency of school shootings in the U.S. It becomes even more concerning when we compare students’ self-reported experience of being bullied.

Only vets? . . . New Bill Would Allow Veterans to Possess Certain Machine Guns

The bill is being sponsored by a veteran. Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark is the cosponsor. “Our World War II and Korean War Veterans risked their lives in foreign lands in defense of our freedoms,” Cotton said. “These firearms represent the sacrifices they made in the name of duty and are often treasured keepsakes.”

This doesn’t mean that the guns won’t be registered with the ATF, or that they won’t be considered as machine guns. They will. The open registration period is simply a grace period to keep people who own these guns now from facing prosecution for their possession.

Hey kids, what time is it? . . . Time to get rid of your guns: Buyback set in Camden

“Gun buybacks provide a vital means for taking deadly firearms out of circulation before they can be used to take a life,” (New Jersey Attorney General Christopher) Porrino said.

“Some say that weapons turned in during these buybacks are just old ‘attic guns’ – as if that somehow makes them less lethal. Whether we’re talking about a TEC-9 or an old hunting rifle, guns are dangerous. All anyone needs to do is read news stories from across the nation – including New Jersey – to know that guns left lying around the home are a common source of tragedy.”

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  1. avatar General Zod says:

    “The NRA paints an America irrevocably divided between “we” and “they.” An America where the media has fallen into their hands. Where the schools are instruments of their lies. Where every action is designed to threaten “the law abiding.”…”

    So, in other words, pretty damn accurate.

    1. avatar General Zod says:

      Also:

      “How many of those Republican Congressmen who were calling for a reduction in rhetoric following the ballfield shooting, will step forward to condemn this video that uses that incident to call for civil war on Americans?”

      Well, let’s see…how many on the left will step forward? Or even admit the shooter was one of them, spurred on by their rhetoric?”

      1. avatar Hellofromillinois says:

        Um… they already have been pretty public about the fact that he was a Bernie Sanders supporter and campaign volunteer and denounced his actions. I don’t recall anyone doing anything to claim he was anything else.

        1. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

          True, but those denunciations only came out after it came out on the Internet that he was Bernie supporter, then got picked up by the media and was reported widely. Usually, the media doesn’t report that connection, which is why usually we don’t hear Dems disavowing all relation to the shooters.

          You didn’t hear Bernie or the Dems step up in advance of the reports on the shooter and say anything. You must understand that for political people, everything is political. When something like this happens, the first thing these people do is look to see if they’re connected in any way: through donations, volunteering, or even just letters to the editor or social media posts. That’s what the media looks for, too, although they’ve been known to skip the actual fact checking and just start assuming a shooter is a Tea Party supporter.

          In any event, Bernie and Co. likely knew pretty quickly. If they really cared, they wouldn’t make perfunctory denunciations post-event or after the connections surface online. They would dial down the inflammatory rhetoric all along, which their obviously unhinged base cannot handle.

    2. avatar DaveW says:

      General Zod – Yep. That pretty much sums it up.

      D Y – Well, given the choice of who to pay attention to, Dana has my full and undivided attention over any of the liberals I can think of (Pelosi, Feinstein, Killary, Chelsea, ad nauseum! If anyone wants to paint that as a sexist comment, go right ahead. I can’t wait for things to get back to normal. Like when we could joke and laugh together regardless of our race, creed, color, religion, political persuasion, sexual orientation, etc. PC has gotten so bad that if you point your finger, you can get arrested. Tell an elephant joke and PETA comes for you. I pray the liberals never get to decide that we all have to wear grey uniforms and carry a little blue book of socialist and communist saying.

      16V – You can’t very well have an argument, let alone a civilized discussion, when the liberal side makes up the rules. Been that way since at least the early 1970s.

      1. avatar 16V says:

        DaveW, More like the late ’60s, but I agree with your point.

  2. avatar D Y says:

    Wow, left is sure ready to drop their feminist platform when a strong woman like Dana is given equal billing as men, but says something they don’t approve of. Of course that’s old news, the left isn’t anything BUT hypocritical.

    The more they whine and cry, the better I feel. Thanks mainstream media for all the fake news!

  3. avatar 16V says:

    The Daily Kos author’s reply is either Orwellian, or typed by someone so stupid and ignorant as to really have no right to live. (Not a threat, just an observation that he serves no useful purpose whatsoever.)

    Antifa, BAMN, and several others openly advocate violence and perform it each and every rally, normally against defenseless conservatives who thought they would have a civilized argument.

    Freedom is slavery. War is peace.

    1. avatar strych9 says:

      Nailed it.

  4. avatar Nanashi says:

    Why is the NRA giving Paul Rhino money anyways?

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      Because he is in a position to do something. Pretty simple, actually.

      1. avatar Joe R. says:

        Ya, he’s in a position to take their money. The whole of the POS (R) representation is an un-pushable rope ever since TRUMP ran on “draining the swamp” there isn’t enough maxi-pads to go around.

  5. avatar former water walker says:

    And Robin Kelly is my “representative” in congress…gerrymandered so a Republican can NEVER win. She(it) took over for Jesse(convicted felon) Jackson JR. A motley crew indeed…I’m falling in love with Dana-don’t tell the wife?

  6. avatar IYearn4nARnCali says:

    There are no Dana Loesch types here in my gulag, only screaming dancers, jugglers, and performance artist types who wear furry costumes and read scream poetry about gun violence.

    One day Dana, LOL yeah right.

    The lady is right, as she often is. This country IS divided, yet, I still say that these sick kids can come in out of the rain; but I won’t stop preparing for them to arrive if they ever do. We are a single American people, and no matter how hard they scream, no matter how much they cry, no matter what violence they perpetrate, I can still invite them to lay down their hate and join America; but that doesn’t mean I will stop being armed and ready for any chicanery to step off.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “We are a single American people,…”

      Not any more. Nov. 8, 2016 pushed them over the edge.

      I really enjoyed it at first, I must admit. But now, they are stuck on the Kubler-Ross anger stage of grief. They have made it clear they have no intention of ever accepting us, and us of them.

      There are now irreconcilable difference in the marriage of the American people to each other. Common ground is lost.

      If we were smart, we’d better get a divorce before the spouse beatings begin.

      I want them *out* of my house, this country…

      1. avatar IYearn4nARnCali says:

        I understand the sentiment, but I won’t give up on trying to reach them on a human level; I refuse to give up on America, and to me that’s what it feels like. Granted, they may have already given up on America because they were never taught that America is the land that is SUPPOSED to detest handouts, but a land that rewards risk, hard work, and dogged determination to excel. But for so long, we have been broken by the powerful who wish only to use us as tax generators, and their rampancy is biting deep into our collective psyche.

        Until we can get these OBVIOUSLY malleable minds to side WITH a single united American people against our ACTUAL enemy, which may very well be an impossible task, we will work towards the best but prepare for the worst. I always have faith in selfishness, we need only to utilize their selfishness by offering gainful employment, not Starbucks, but a revitalized steel industry, for example, would pull so much goodness out of even the worst Hillarybots. Imagine, an ocean of gender fluid whackaloons, learning a REAL trade, learning in an environment that cannot stomach whining, and feelings, but BURNING out the pansy softness of a generation through strict adherence to rules that are more solid than stone. “You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one, I hope some day you’ll join us…” Perhaps I’m as lost as they are, hoping to flush out the headgear of these people?

        1. avatar Joe R. says:

          “I understand the sentiment, but I won’t give up on trying to reach them on a human level; ”

          So, what caliber are you thinking. . .?

          /sarc and F all who needed the /sarc

      2. avatar J says:

        We haven’t been a “single people” in quite some time, perhaps since the 60s.

        The sooner we disabuse the left of that notion, the better off we’ll all be.

        1. avatar ColoradoKid says:

          We were a ‘single people’ shortly after 9/11/01…for a little while anyway…

        2. avatar Joe R. says:

          THEY, the evil POS (D)) are not US if they try to flood our country with those who are not US (not just foreigners, and not just people who have no desire to be and do “American”, but people who have an overtly expressed desire and history to want to bring America down.

          IF AMERICA IS YOURS TO GIVE AWAY, IT’S MINE TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOU.

          F the evil POS (D), all their liberals, progressives, socialists, communists, and globalists.

          CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

          no

      3. avatar KBonLI says:

        You are spot on. I thought it would subside but I’m convinced that until they get their way they won’t stop. It’s been a relentless barrage of negative B.S. news daily. It’s gotten to the point where I change channels to HGTV as soon as the weather report is over.
        I have friends who stropped having family gatherings because of the divide. This is a microcosm of what some pre-Civil War families must have gone through.

  7. avatar Curtis in IL says:

    “…strike back with a “clenched fist.”

    The Daily Kos had to misquote Dana Loesche in order to fabricate their temper tantrum of the day. What she said was, “…Fight this violence of lies with the clenched fist of truth.”

    Maybe the just don’t get metaphors.

    1. avatar 16V says:

      ‘Maybe the (sic) just don’t get metaphors.”

      When the metaphor does not suit their narrative? Nope, not at all.

    2. avatar Sian says:

      Truth is a foreign concept. they couldn’t understand what the word meant so they just left it out.

  8. avatar Ollie says:

    I’ll bet there are a few mechanical types fabricating slam-bang shotguns out of pipe and 2x4s in the Camden area right now. Make some easy cash to buy real guns or ammo with.

  9. avatar The Rookie says:

    “The thief, dressed like a construction worker, entered DF Brothers Sports Center on New Utrecht Ave. near 79th St. in Bensonhurst”

    Police later reported that the thief’s accomplices were dressed as a leather-clad biker and an Indian chief.

    Too 1970s?

    1. avatar What About Bob says:

      Last seen heading to their temporary residence at the YMCA?

      1. avatar CarlosT says:

        After that, they had plans to go to a Navy recruiting center and enlist.

  10. avatar Ralph says:

    “Of the 10,704 students included in this study, about 4 percent (446 students) said they could get access to a loaded gun without adult permission.”

    What a bunch of Nancies! In my old Bronx neighborhood, most of the students could get access to a loaded gun without adult permission, and a lot more than 4% did.

    1. avatar TrappedInCommiefornia says:

      I could see 4% being normal in the inner cities, and maybe even suburbs. But that’d be waaay too low in rural areas, where most high schoolers (at least males) have access to guns so they can practice a little pest control.
      On a slightly unrelated note, does anyone have any advice or know of any articles for properly teaching a child (6 y.o.) to shoot. If the weather ever cools down a little here this summer I’m hoping to take my daughter out to shoot her .22 she got for Christmas and could use some pointers. We’ve already been going over the 4 rules, but I was never really taught how to shoot, I just had a bb gun and a “good luck, don’t hurt yourself”. I would like to give her a little more training than that.

      1. avatar Lance F says:

        Were I grew up, you could get a small game hunting license at 12, now it is even younger. It is a surprise that only 4% have access, or said they did at least.

      2. avatar Tim says:

        One of the best pieces of advice on targets is to use something like balloons, steel plates, tin cans, etc. rather than paper. That way they can have the fun of seeing/hearing stuff react, and they won’t be disappointed when they don’t get as good of a group as you on paper.

        My now-7 year old figured out that if he hit the steel target, the bullet would take out multiple balloons when it disintegrated.

      3. avatar Hellofromillinois says:

        In the country its less likely to be a handgun though than a rifle or shotgun.

      4. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        TrappedInCommiefornia,

        For starters, only load ONE CARTRIDGE AT A TIME. This is important for safety for a new and especially a young shooter. They tend to muzzle sweep people after taking their shot and you eliminate any chance of injury after the shot if you only load one cartridge at a time. This also forces them to get a lot more practice and competence working the action of the firearm which is a really beneficial skill.

        Now, on to technique … and we will keep it simple for such a young shooter. I would only focus on two skills for your daughter at this point: sighting and trigger technique.

        In terms of sighting technique, draw a picture to show how she is supposed to line up the sights and how they will look to her when she has lined them up correctly. Also include how the target should be “floating” or “resting” (in an imaginary sense) on top of the sights.

        In terms of trigger technique, teach her to keep her finger OFF the trigger (resting along the side of the firearm) until she is pointing at her known/safe target and ready to shoot. Then teach her to slowly and gently squeeze the trigger (rather than jerking the trigger). When she gets older and has had a lot more practice, you can start talking about breathing technique before squeezing the trigger.

        Finally, two suggestions from a psychological perspective. Use LARGE targets without bulls-eye rings. (Metallic reactive targets are fantastic as another poster mentioned.) At this point, all that matters is hitting the target. Accurate shots to a specific location on a target (e.g. a bulls-eye) are not important for new shooters. Second, give her lots of praise and encouragement! Remember, you want to emphasize both fun and safety.

        1. avatar TrappedInCommiefornia says:

          Her gun is single shot only which I’m very happy about. I really like the idea of reactive targets so we will probably use balloons, I think she will enjoy that. And I think drawing a picture of what she will be looking at should help her quite a bit.

          Thank you for the advice folks, I really appreciate it.

        2. avatar neiowa says:

          Project Appleseed. Nothing else even comes close as an organized marksmanship training program. Aim is to teach beginners to shoot well but there is no one that won’t learn something. And a lot of fun. For best effect will want 10/22s or similar 22 semi.

          appleseedinfo.org

  11. avatar RCC says:

    I like the WW2 BREN Gun with Australian bayonet in the photo. One of my now late uncles carrried one for three beach landings before he was promoted to Sargent Major. He never fitted the bayonet aside from training at home.

    He said he made mistake as a private of hitting 20 out of 20 rounds from the hip and his job the next day was machine gunner.

    1. avatar Dave Lewis says:

      With respect I think we’re looking at a Japanese type 96 which was a knock off on the Czech ZBs in 8mm Mauser used by the Chinese. Of course the Bren was a knock off of the Czech ZB too so that explains the family resemblance. The type 96 had a lug for the standard Japanese bayonet. I can’t imagine doing bayonet drill with a 20+ pound light machine gun but I guess the Imperial Japanese Army thought it looked bad ass.

  12. avatar Hannibal says:

    It’s kinda silly that vets bringing back guns from Vietnam are good to go but anyone after ’68 is still screwed. Still, I’d like to see more guns on the registry.

  13. avatar Zeke says:

    “…livesaving legislation?”

    Only in the left’s candy-coated dream word do violent criminals stop and check to see what the latest laws are. Your legislation isn’t saving anybody, lady.

  14. avatar Boba Fett says:

    I love how the anti-gun crowd always just “wants a conversation.” It makes them sound so benign. The only topic of that conversation will be how to take more guns away. Then a few years from now, they’ll want to have “another conversation,” where they propose more restrictions. We know this conversation, we know what you want out of it, and we’ve seen the pattern, so fuck your conversation.

    1. avatar J says:

      When it comes to liberals wanting “conversation” (IE: “we wanna strip you of rights we don’t approve of”) the best policy is permanent radio silence.

  15. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    For some, it seems that the NRA’s money is more important than saving American lives. Every dollar they take can be directly linked to an American with a bullet hole. And I’m not going to let them forget that.

    So, I’m going to stand on the floor of the People’s House and count every dollar they took while sharing the name and story of an American killed by gun violence. — Rep. Robin Kelly

    A Conservative Representative needs to return the favor: every dollar that a Progressive politician takes from Bloomberg, the Joyce Foundation, etc. can be directly linked to an American that was brutally beaten, stabbed, shot, robbed, raped, and/or murdered.

    So, that Conservative Representative must stand on the floor of the People’s House and count every dollar Progressives took while sharing the name and story of an American that was beaten, stabbed, shot, robbed, raped, and/or murdered because their government forcibly disarmed them and guaranteed that their criminal attackers would prevail.

  16. avatar BierceAmbrose says:

    If they’ve already decided “lifesaving legislation” is the answer, what’s the conversation we need to have?

  17. avatar BierceAmbrose says:

    So, they want to “have a conversationan” to explain: “Shut up.” some more?

  18. avatar BierceAmbrose says:

    “We gotta have a conversation”, but the evil N R A keeps saying stuff. I do not think that word means what they think it means.

  19. avatar Parnell says:

    Well Rep. Kelly, how much money have you gotten from open borders dirtbags like George Soros?

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