Desperate pearl-clutching at HuffPo . . . Trump Pick For Army Secretary: Citizens Should Have Same Weapons As The Government – “Tennessee state Sen. Mark Green (R), President Donald Trump’s nominee for Army secretary, strongly believes that citizens should be armed ― and not just with any ol’ guns. They should be able to possess whatever weapons the military has, because an armed citizenry is the ‘ultimate checks and balances’ against the federal government. ‘The Second Amendment, while it allows citizens to protect themselves from other citizens, goes well beyond just allowing us to defend ourselves from a criminal,’ Green said at a pro-gun rally in 2013.”

Remember those warnings from the ATF about SoCal cops selling guns? . . . Huge arsenal seized from high-ranking Pasadena police officer’s home, new records show – “Federal agents seized about five dozen firearms worth tens of thousands of dollars from a high-ranking Pasadena police officer during a raid earlier this year, according to newly released government records. The Feb. 16 search of the officer’s Sierra Madre home by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was widely publicized, but authorities did not identify the officer or detail what was recovered. The cache of weapons was an enormous haul that took two trucks to cart away.”

Questions no one is asking . . . Why do people buy guns after mass shooting? – “The demand for guns jumped in Newtown after the shooting. Assault rifles began selling out across the country amid fears of tighter gun control legislation. Similar spikes in gun sales followed tragedies in Orlando and San Bernardino, and stock in gun companies surged. Now, research in California suggests that the closer people are to a mass tragedy, the greater the impact on gun sales. Hockley calls this a ‘knee-jerk reaction’ by people who are scared for their safety and who worry that someone will take their guns away. Now a voice for gun violence prevention through her organization, Sandy Hook Promise, Hockley said that the families of mass shooting victims have responded very differently.”

And here’s a case in point . . . Study: California Gun Sales Spiked After Recent Mass Shootings – “A new study published Monday found that in the wake of two high-profile mass shootings, handgun sales spiked in California. Sales in the state rose by 53 percent during the six weeks after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. After a 2015 mass shooting in San Bernardino, sales rose by 35 percent in most of California. But they nearly doubled within San Bernardino County, growing by 85 percent.”

Brownells Honors “FedEx Guy” With All American Dream Gun® – ATLANTA, Georgia (May 2, 2017) – Brownells’ NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits special guest Matt Uhrin – also known as the famous flag-saving “FedEx Guy” – was honored by Brownells CEO Pete Brownell during a presentation in the Brownells booth on Saturday, April 29, 2017. Uhrin, an Iowa City, Iowa-area package delivery man, was recognized for his patriotism and courageous actions for intervening in a late-January 2017 protest where demonstrators were preparing to burn American flags. A U.S. Army combat veteran, Uhrin, who had sent fallen brothers and sisters home from the Mid-East under America’s symbol of freedom rushed into the crowd of protestors, bravely saving three American flags. In recognition of his actions, Brownells CEO Pete Brownell presented Uhrin with the one-of-a-kind Brownells/Smith & Wesson® All American Dream Gun®. The firearm is a highly-customized Smith & Wesson M&P® M2.0™ 9mm pistol and features, most appropriately, an American Flag paint scheme.

Trump slump? What Trump slump? . . . Gun sales remain near record levels in April – “The number of gun-related background checks in April remained near record levels, FBI statistics released on Monday show. The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) ran 2,045,564 gun-related checks in April. That represents a decrease of about a hundred thousand checks from the all-time record for the month of April set in 2016. It also is a drop of almost four hundred thousand from March as the gun industry enters its seasonal low period.”

Better and better in Arizona . . . Ducey signs law banning background checks on private gun sales – “Arizonans won’t have to worry the state or city will demand a background check before someone can privately sell a refrigerator, a microwave — or a gun. Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday signed legislation that bars all levels of government from requiring that the owner of any personal property be forced to search a federal or state database before transferring the item. The law, which takes effect later this summer, also says governments can’t require the involvement of a third party in such transfers of personal property. Sen. Gail Griffin, R-Hereford, said the legislation is the outgrowth of a concern from a constituent who heard of restrictions being enacted elsewhere and wanted to be sure Arizona not only makes those illegal for itself but keeps cities and towns from their own such interference.”

49 Responses to Vedder Holsters Daily Digest: Civilian Military Arms, Cops Dealing Guns, and Post Shooting Gun Sales

  1. I wish Honor made a pistol in .45 ACP, as I would probably buy one for this.

    I am also glad I no longer live in Illinois.

    • I am also glad I no longer live in Illinois. I keep my commie FOID card to show people who can appreciate its unconstitutionality.

  2. Anybody here had any experience with Honor Guard firearms? I’m looking for a compact tactical Tupperware, and I’d like to buy american. Plus, the one with the little serrated guard that extends from the frame is pretty cool.

    • We just borrowed one and Sinterfire sent 1,000 rounds of their ammo to run through it. We’ll be going to the range to put all 1,000 rounds through the Honor Guard in a single sitting, no cleaning or lubing, having fun with some Action Target steel. Thankfully Honor Defense loaned us a box of extra mags, too haha

      Results of this range day should be up on here in a couple weeks…

    • I handled one briefly. My only real complaint is the trigger is unnecessarily stiff and long.

    • I was able to demo one. It’s much better than the shield and 43. That if course is my opinion. Ergo, sights, texture, and build quality are great. Trigger is good not great. I like the modular concept. I anticipate different frames/barrels soon. The Honor Guard logo is much less pronounced in person. I was turned off in photos but IRL it’s barely noticeable. Shoots great. Very accurate. Noticeably better than should or 43. Recoil is also better. Would definitely recommend. I’m waiting for funding and now I’m torn between HG and vp9sk. FML.

    • Yes to Mr. Green.

      Meh to 60 guns, I want people (except the > = pigs) to have so many guns that they’re a slight incinvenience.

      ?

  3. The treasure of Sierra Madre indeed. Anyone get a # on the cops stash? Wish I had some spare bucks for Honor Defense. Or the guys from yesterday. I have multiple layaways in an Indiana gunship. I KNOW Blythe’s supports Illinois gun owners…

  4. And that California officer’s name is Garcia, Rodriguez, Martinez, Hernandez, Lopez or Gonzalez? 🙂

  5. The vehicle in the picture above the California gun sales portion has Utah plates. I’m sure the picture isn’t from Utah, but it’s worth noting. It could easily be a rental I suppose or whatever.

    • You have a much lower threshold for “worth noting” than I do…

      FWIW, that photo is the car used by the San Bernardino shooters, and it was a rental.

  6. Hehe “Nothing from Croatia.” 🙂

    Methinks that is a jab in the nads to someone, oh I don’t know….is it SA-TAN? (Church Lady reference)

    Well I have yet to make a purchase from Dicks, CTD, or any FUDD places so far.

    My XD-40 is 17 years old and has 10,000 rounds thru so far. Still eats all ammo and never a hiccup. But won’t buy another. SA-tan product.

    • “Methinks that is a jab in the nads to someone, oh I don’t know….is it SA-TAN? (Church Lady reference) ”

      “And just look how that slide cycles, back and forth, just thrusting and releasing, thrusting and releasing… And how the hot spent brass just spurts out like… “

  7. I have to wonder what statute/s the Pasadena cop, a lieutenant (hardly a high-ranking officer) allegedly violated. If having 5 dozen firearms in your home is a crime, a lot of us are in deep trouble. If he had a business going in selling firearms without an FFL, then fine – find a tall tree and a short rope. If he was selling firearms to non-LEO’s in CA which only cops are supposed to have, then the tree/rope thing still applies, even more so. If the guns had been seized as evidence or otherwise seized legally and then improperly converted to the cop, then that would call for an even taller tree and a shorter rope. It sure would be helpful if the ATF or Pasadena PD released some more details about the rationale for the seizure.

    • Well, this is how it works.
      First of all, I have no idea why they seized his guns, since from the article it doesn’t appear that they were contraband. Best guess is that they are evidence of his intent to violate federal firearms laws because, it will be argued, he did not buy them for himself but for resale.
      Second California LEO are exempt from the California Roster. They can purchase any gun they want, seeing as they have so much more training than the average civilian, they do not need to be protected from “unsafe” firearms.
      Third, although citizens cannot purchase non-roster handguns from an FFL, they CAN buy them in a private sale, i.e., form a LEO, as long as the 10 round mag limitation is observed. (All California sales have to be processed by an FFL, however.)
      These conditions have created a “black market” for off roster firearms, as LEO can purchase these guns with a LEO discount, often substantial, and resell them for a profit to a “civilian.” I remember two LAPD who were buying special edition Kimber LA SWAT 1911s and selling each for MSRP, which was literally hundreds of dollars more.
      Fourth, and finally, a non-FFL is limited as to the number of sales that can be conducted annually without a licesne. Until last year, the number was a kind of nebulous one, as it required a determination that the seller was “in the business of” selling firearms (i.e., for profit and not just for his own account). I think the ATF issued a regulation just last year specifying the number that would be allowed, and I am a bit fuzzy, but I think the number was five.

      • To my knowledge there is no such specific number, although the ATF made some noise about figuring one out. The info on their website still says “there is no specific threshold number” for what it’s worth.

    • Actually, Croatia is Catholic. Try Bosnia Herzegovina. Or Macedonia. Or Albania. Or Turkey. Those are the only Muslim majority Eurocountries (at the moment!). Germany, Sweden, Denmark and UK will follow in afew short years.

  8. Brownells is a great company. I just wish I didn’t have to pay sales tax if I buy from them.

    • Apparently Pete Brownell just became president of the NRA? Maybe they will start to become more useful now…

  9. Well, I’d probably draw the line at nuclear missiles, but if Joe Citizen can afford to purchase and operate his own aircraft carrier, who am I to say no?

    • I don’t think it’s that. I believe it’s more aling the lines of not being permitted to dictate anothers outlay of resources except to countermand (head off) someone whose sole or gross outlay is predominantly on threat to you or others. We’re not allowed to dictate to another what constitutes “enough” as long as those persons do not also prevent you from obtaing resouces for basic need, and unless they utilize (or appear to intend to utilize their resources) to destroy your resources or means to obtain them, or resources wholesale in general. [loosely paraphrased J.M. Thomas R., TERMS, 2012].

      • Hey, a reference to your manifesto or book or whatever it is! I thought you stopped doing those. It’s good to see that back in the mix.

    • Actually this was specifically provided for under the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8.

      • The Constitution Article 1 Section 8 does not reserve or preclude any sole rights with respect to arms. It says it shall have the powers to create certain forces for protection of the U.S., but it doesn’t say it gets to be the sole protector, or that greater than Constitutional protections cannot be garnered by individuals.

  10. Gun sales spike after every mass shooting because it’s a brutal reminder that federal, state and local governments are all impotent when it comes to preventing violence. At best they’ll identify the perpetrators and segregate them from society AFTER THE FACT. Cold comfort if you’re one of the victims though.

  11. I mean… the Secretary of the Army has absolutely bubkis to do with civilian gun laws so who cares?

    Not like I care what the HuffPo thinks anyway.

    • The U.S. Military is subservient to it’s commanders who, like the government it serves, serves at the will of the citizenry.

      Those in the U.S. Military are ingrained with the notion that they are ‘lesser’ than civilisns, and happily serve as such. It’s nice to see someone leading them in a small way express and acknowledge the same thing.

      • Yeah reading my post I think it gives the wrong impression. I like that he thinks that way. But I can’t see why the antis should give a crap because unlike, say, the attorney general, he has nothing to do with the laws or policies in their precious Commiefornia, etc.

    • I don’t even bother reading any of the Huff articles. Absolutely don’t want to contribute to their click count.

      • @Swilson, use Adblock Plus. I do and got a popup stating please whitelist HuffPo so we can make money from our supporters. Promptly closed that tab. “No soup for you!”

    • Honorably discharged should receive permanent transfer of there individual issued weapon at time of ETS.

      Huffpo would mostly be pissed as the former Obumer flaming pixie Sec Army is out walking the streets. Less diversity you know.

      NO ONE however can think that “every American has a right to” serve in the US military. Degenerates and mental defectives are not needed.

  12. “Questions no one is asking. . .” why doesn’t Globalist-Communism work? And why the F do the Fing Communists all want to take your guns?

    Why, when we nearly have more FING marble than in the Capital dome casting shadows on General Lee’s confiscated lands, and a goodly portion of them are monuments to how we have dedicated this Country (under GOD) to eradicating communism wherever we find it. We’ve already hugely traded blood and treasure. If the commie F’s need to grab a gun, it better be the one they have pegged over their mantle.
    And commie F’s ain’t the only human scourge out there, but they’re perennial, and (D) and RINO, and all POS.

  13. Questions that someone is asking:

    “a CNN/ORC poll found that 55% of people surveyed supported stricter gun laws — . . . 87% supported a gun ban for convicted felons and people with mental illnesses.”

    Perhaps the DNC should add a gun ban for convicted felons to their platform next time, to go along with their plan to make straw purchases illegal.

  14. 5 dozen firearms ( 70 ) = 2 truck loads? Were they all in Pelican 1750 cases and they were using Chevy LUV trucks? 70 pistol cases would fit inside my crew cab Ram 3500 on the way to a boating accident.

    So they seized the firearms but didn’t charge him? So much for nobody is going to grab your guns.

  15. Secretary Green may be just the guy to release the Army’s M1911s to the Civilian Marksmanship Program

    • If we get congress’s asses into gear, he can be the guy to release M3s and M14s to it too.

    • I’m game.

      “(o)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
      (2) This subsection does not apply with respect to—
      (A) a transfer to or by, or possession by or under the authority of, the United States or any department or agency thereof or a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
      (B) any lawful transfer or lawful possession of a machinegun that was lawfully possessed before the date this subsection takes effect.”

      Looks like the Army can transfer/issue post-86 machine guns per FOPA.

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