Quote of the Day: NYPD Chief on National Reciprocity

“I don’t think there is any reason for anybody to bring a gun into New York City.” – NYPD Commissioner James O’Neill quoted in Bill in Congress to Let Visitors to NYC Walk Around with Concealed Guns Concerns NYPD Commissioner [via ny1.com]

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  1. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

    Umm… self defense maybe?

    1. avatar Joe R. says:

      No, that’s why we have cops there.

      I don’t think anyone has a need for a cop in NY. Except for cleanup and paperwork.

      Bad guys don’t usually operate where there is even minor resistance or hassle, and ALL CRIME IS BASED UPON RESPONSE TIME.

      The only one who can immediately respond, is the victim.

      Oh wait, that’s a reason for an individual to carry a gun.

    2. avatar neiowa says:

      Because DeBlasio said so.

    3. avatar Missouri Mule says:

      I don’t think there is any reason to go to New York City. Ever!

      1. avatar Rob in Canada says:

        We visited there once, it’s a rat race and the place stinks. It was nice to see but once was enough for me.

  2. avatar BLAMMO says:

    There is EVERY reason you’d ever bring a gun anywhere, to bring one to NYC.

  3. avatar A Brit in TX says:

    He’s just continuing in the long and ‘proud’ tradition of NYC police chiefs wanting all the power and allowing effective self defense only for themselves and their political overlords.

    1. avatar Omer Baker says:

      Ever since the Tammeny Hall of old.

  4. avatar JoeBlow-Ex NY'er says:

    Maybe he should leave his at home then. His remark is ludicrous on its face.

    1. avatar -Peter says:

      Excellent point.

    2. avatar DDay says:

      Who are you kidding, the top cop in NYC has his own armed protection 24/7. He doesn’t even need a gun, he’s like the midget Bloomberg, they both have armed guards unlike the peasants.

  5. avatar Soylent Green says:

    Because its a crime ridden, detestable, sh!thole?

    1. avatar MiniMe says:

      That’s a bingo!

    2. avatar Anon in CT says:

      That’s not actually true. Wall Street throws off enough $$ to keep the NYPD pretty well-funded, and it does a decent job of suppressing crime, at least outside the Bronx and the projects. NYC really is very safe for a big city, and it’s crowded sidewalks and more crowded subways to pose something of a challenge for EDC.

      But so what? There are still folks who have to live or work in those rough neighborhoods, or who commute in from places like Bridgeport that are definitely on the rough side. Politicians from places like NY, NJ and CA, and their intransigent views on armed civilians are the reason for the push for national reciprocity. If they had chosen to be halfways reasonable, it wouldn’t be so important.

  6. avatar Jack Crow says:

    If that is true, Mr Commissioner, then why do the police carry guns?

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      Peer pressure?

  7. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

    Time for NYPD to practice what they preach and disarm.

  8. avatar Alex Waits says:

    Maybe he should focus on the gangs and criminals who own the city, rather than the law abiding citizen minding his own damn business.

  9. avatar Chris Morton says:

    Then there’s no reason for the NYPD to carry guns.

    The NYPD should just shut up and stick to what it knows… sodomizing Haitians with broomsticks, shooting blindly in dark stairwells because they’re “scared” and bodyslamming retired tennis pros.

    1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

      “Then there’s no reason for the NYPD to carry guns.”

      “Anybody” should include the police if we are to believe that NYC is now crime free utopia.

  10. avatar LarryinTX says:

    “I don’t think there is any reason for anybody to bring a gun into New York City.”

    How about because I don’t want to throw it away while driving out of NY state?

  11. avatar jwm says:

    “There’ll be blood in the streets.”

  12. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    He has never walked the streets of NYC out of uniform. If he had he would know how stupid his statement is.

    1. avatar Buzz Word says:

      NYC: Kitty Genovese

      1. avatar Chris says:

        Exactly. If you haven’t read Kitty’s story, you should.

  13. avatar Scott C. says:

    I think I just lost some brain cells even reading this quote. First off I have every right to protect myself and my loved ones no matter where I go. Second and more importantly, I have the only right I need to carry, it’s called the 2nd Amendment one the Bill of Rights.

    Just as a side note, most of the L.T.C. holders I know can shoot more accurately than 90% of his police department.

    1. avatar binder says:

      That’s the problem, he thinks licensed carriers shoot worse than his police department (or french snipers).

  14. avatar Buzz Word says:

    NYC, a few years back, Manhattan: a biker gang attacks and chases a father, his wife, a two-year-old toddler all in the father’s SUV on a Manhattan freeway. The bikers pull the dad out of the SUV and beat him to a pulp. The affair took many minutes yet no NYPD officers showed up despite the high visibility of the event (it was on a Manhattan freeway in plain view of office towers and the like). The dad was unarmed and suffered permanent damage.

    You need a gun. Carry it always, 24/7, 365 days a year.

    1. avatar Shire-man says:

      At least one of the bikers was an undercover cop too. Protecting and serving up a storm that day.

      Some reports say 5 undercovers were there.

      1. avatar Buzz Word says:

        Good point.. and quite correct. You’d think that the undercover cop would at least have tried to phone in for police help.. there was lots of time to do so because the ‘event’ was a lengthy one.. the chase was a long one, on a busy freeway, in Manhattan no less!

    2. avatar Anon in CT says:

      To be fair he had a weapon, but was too afraid or frozen to use it.

      His weapon was a Range Rover. It can be pretty effective against losers on crotch-rockets. I’ve seen those clubs/gangs on the FDR at night, and yeah, it can be intimidating. But you have to keep your head and avoid a prey mentality.

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        He wasn’t afraid to use it. There was a bunch of GoPro video of that incident. He ran a biker over.

        His major problem was being outnumbered 35 (or more) to one.

        1. avatar Anon in CT says:

          Clearly one was not enough. Don’t stop. Ever.

        2. avatar LarryinTX says:

          His major problem was being unarmed. I watched that video, of the thug beating on his window, and all I could think was the moment that window broke, he’d catch a .45 HP square in the middle of the chest if that was me he was attacking. And, by that time I’d have my extra mag in my other hand, they might have beat me up, but there would be around a dozen of them dead by then. I think cooler heads would have prevailed by then, they’d have run away and left the bodies.

    3. avatar Huntmaster says:

      Yeah Commissioner, how many cops were involved in that little street party?

  15. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    He says as he carrys a gun….

  16. avatar Swilson says:

    Is this the Joke of the Day or the Quote of the Day?

  17. avatar Jim says:

    I don’t think drivers licenses of NY cops should be valid in my state.

  18. avatar Andrew Lias says:

    Gun control laws in NYC were originally passed by criminals. What does that tell you about this guy?

  19. avatar James69 says:

    They don’t want you shooting their revenue providing criminals. Why they would go broke if the revolving door justice system were to slow down. I’d love to see what they bring in a year via “court costs”, fines and tickets.

  20. avatar Salvatore says:

    Here is my surprised face :()

    I grew up in Western New York State. Amazing beauty. Such a shame that the state is now run by communists.

  21. avatar Curtis in IL says:

    Commissioner O’Neill is so pathetically detached from the Constitution he is sworn to defend, he can say something so ridiculous and be oblivious to the ridicule.

    I have difficulty finding the words to properly describe his statement.

    1. Well said, I couldn’t agree more. In his mind he’s been above the law for so long he can’t even relate.

      1. avatar Huntmaster says:

        Never better said!

  22. avatar Salvatore says:

    Here is my surprised face :()

    I grew up in Western New York State. Amazing beauty. Such a shame that the state is now run by communists.

  23. avatar rt66paul says:

    Do they issue them on entry? That is the only reason reason not to have your own.

  24. avatar Pistol Pete says:

    I think of the NYPD as America’s Civilian Standing Army for New York City, When any hostile force invades, they control it by removing resistance to their occupation (guns). New York is just controlling the population as best they can. With 34,000 officers patrolling 305 Sq Miles, its not about protection. It’s about control and intimidation.

  25. avatar Chris says:

    What Statist would see the need? I carry a gun because you’re too fVcking heavy.

  26. avatar 2A FTW says:

    Friend of mine lives in NY and says you must have to bribe the right people. Starts with a big campaign contribution of some sort, that opens the door. Then comes a ‘business trip’ somewhere, paid by the prospective applicant, of course. Like for example, in one persons case, who we shall not name, a ‘business trip’ to Mar-a-Lago. Then comes that actual white envelope, delivered not to the bribee, but to a family member so that the bribee can claim lack of knowledge. Often times, the person delivering the envelope isn’t the prospective applicant.

    No one asks, no one solicits. It’s just done. Then a permit is magically approved.

    Permit? What permit?

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      Until recently, the ‘grease’ for a NYC carry permit was about $18,000.

      If I lived in NYC, I’d seriously consider paying that much for one. A few months back they busted the guy who would ‘arrange’ that deal…

  27. avatar former water walker says:

    I can’t think of a reason to EVER go or patronize NYC unarmed-FIFY…

  28. avatar Mike Betts says:

    Yeah, and nobody needs to carry a gun into Chicago or Baltimore, either. Both are even safer than NYC, right?

    1. avatar binder says:

      Chicago? I carry in the city all the time

  29. avatar Capybara says:

    Of course, because Commissioner O’Neill is what is known as a Lackey. He does the bidding of his mayor, DiBlasio, a self admitted Commie. The NYPD is probably the first or second place most corrupt police force in the nation, and he is the head enforcer, what else would you expect?

  30. avatar Ed says:

    Carry my gun every time I go to NYC (wich is not often at all) but I refuse to be un-armed and I’d get the same amount of time for carrying my knife…so, gun it is. If I DID ever get “caught” and had to do time…the day I got out I’d hunt this asshole down badge or no badge for making me a criminal because I refuse to let his citizens make me a victim.

  31. avatar Oliver says:

    Did anyone expect the NYC commish to say anything else? The disarmament mantra by this time is hard wired in every city bearucrats head.

  32. avatar Gary says:

    How intuitive for a man who wears a gun on his hip. Excuse me I Call bullshit.

  33. avatar Klaus says:

    How about I don’t need a fucking reason.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      That seems reasonable to me.

  34. Once you teach Hightower and Mahoney how not to shoot a dozen tourists outside the Empire State building, I’ll feel safer about not being armed in The Big Crapple.

  35. avatar maxi says:

    Of course i don’t need a gun in NYC.
    I will just hand them over my gun at the city’s border. At the point where the free two man police escort joins me for my protection.

    Wait, no free personal police escort? Too bad, in that case my gun stays with me…

  36. avatar Oliver says:

    Seriously, I live in NYC and also legally own firearms and shoot, somewhat, competitively. Believe it or not, until I think about the 80s and early 90s, you could easily get a residence pistol permit that also permitted you to concealed carry to and from your apartment and range, have ammo deliveries to your apartment and of course own dreaded assault weapons. Now your residence pistol permit only allows you to go to and from home and range with your gun in a locked case and also with a trigger lock. Ammo of course separate. If someone wants to rob you of your gun I guess you can try to clobber them with your gun case. Forget about the other two “priveleges” that I mentioned. Rifles and shotguns are now thanks to Cuomo limited to 5 rounds cap only. Bolt action, lever, pump are also included not just semi. Oh, and if you read the fine print, you don’t actually own “your” pistol. You have to ask the NYPD for permission to take it out of state or to sell it. So really you are actually leasing your prized pistol from the NYPD. They are the de facto owners. That’s just for handguns, not long arms, for now.

    Given all of that, I am going to expect the NYPD to have a meltdown when and if reciprocity passes. But knowing the administrative madness over here, I wouldn’t be too surprised if they still manage some creative roadblocks, like declaring all of NYC to be a gun free school zone or some other douchebag maneuvers. I wouldn’t put it past them.

  37. avatar Lt Dave says:

    Then lead the way and disarm yourself. Walk around unarmed and without a security detail. Show us how it’s done.

  38. avatar Steve says:

    I have a driver license so I have to drive my car to NYC. Why even print this stuff the argument is so ridiculous.

  39. avatar Mr. Woodcock says:

    He is correct. A minigun or crew served weapon would be more appropriate for NY.

  40. avatar Aaron M. Walker says:

    The Czar has spoken !!!! “Be calm, it’s a Police -state…Only police can carry guns there! Silly peasant…Freedom is for the lords, dukes, and royals in New York.”

  41. avatar BierceAmbrose says:

    “I don’t think there is any reason for any (citizen – ed) to bring a gun into New York City”, because they (meaning “you”) are expendable.

    FIFY

  42. avatar RetMSgt in Pa. says:

    Where did that man ever learn how to do a hand salute? He certainly didn’t have any military training, that’s for sure.

  43. avatar cd carpeti says:

    Since when have the NYC coppers relinquished their guns?

    We all might be better without them since the cops can’t usually hit what they shoot at.

  44. avatar Lcsw says:

    Ah that’s grand. Good thing the constitution doesn’t give a shit about random police officers and their, frankly, garbage opinions.

  45. avatar Nigel the expat says:

    So when will the NYPD be disarming? If no has a reason… then no one has a reason.

  46. avatar Anonymous says:

    I don’t think there is any reason for anybody to bring a gun into New York City.

    Better tell your subordinates and traffic cops. They don’t need guns. There is no reason any NYPD cops should have guns. Bloomberg with security guards and their guns? They don’t need them either. Let everyone know – no guns in NYC. Let the criminals know too – i’m sure they will turn theirs in – or not bring them to their next scheduled event.

  47. avatar NYC2AZ says:

    “I don’t think there is any reason for anybody to bring a gun into New York City.”

    Tell that to Karina Vetrano.

  48. avatar Ray says:

    12 pound trigger pull. No thanks. I could probably shoot better with a couple of beers in me.

  49. avatar DaveL says:

    I can’t say I’m particularly interested in hearing what the king, the nobility, their knights, or the bishops think about whether the peasants should mind their place.

  50. avatar Tal says:

    Great have the department lead by example.

  51. avatar Mike W. says:

    Says the man who carries a gun or has armed police escort where ever he goes.
    Every time I go home to NYC to visit my family from Arizona, I thank Congress for LEOSA and I pack a gun.
    F****** the NYPD Commish in his 4th point of contact with a nightstick.

  52. avatar adverse4 says:

    I can’t think of any reason I would go anywhere near New York City, with or without a firearm. I don’t even go as far north as Dallas-Ft Worth. Houston not as bad yet, but last time I went there was for jury duty 3 yrs ago, had been about 20 yrs since I had been into downtown Houston before that. Big socialist cities with big problems of their own making want to make and enforce laws for the whole country. Predators flock to areas of easy prey, in that respect socialist cities and wholly socialist states are doing the rest of the country a favor.

  53. avatar DaveW says:

    My family went to NYC once. Went to the Museum of Natural History. Within 10 minutes of parking our car, we were robbed directly across the street. I doubt the Chief has ever been robbed. He is afforded his 2A right, as are the personnel under his command who are also his protectors. Most high ranking types actually have patrol cars who make routine checks on their residences. They are chauffeured around by an armed driver/police officer. Not just NYC, but in about every major city.

  54. avatar Carl in Alaska says:

    I still think the best use for New York was in the movie “Escape from New York” with Snake Pliskin.

    1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

      “I heard you were dead.”

  55. avatar Sian says:

    I don’t think there is any reason for anybody to bring a gun into New York City.”

    Says a man who carries a gun and is surrounded by strapped subordinates.

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